Old School HIT Training With a Modern Approach!

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Peter Khatcherian

Peter Khatcherian

Күн бұрын

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@JamesEast-iy3ov
@JamesEast-iy3ov 3 күн бұрын
The most underrated lifting channel.
@tweezy5923
@tweezy5923 3 күн бұрын
By far
@ArqFad
@ArqFad 2 күн бұрын
Yeahh and this guy is a real OG!
@brandonpeoples890
@brandonpeoples890 3 күн бұрын
Dope video! I would love to see what this type of training looks for back and biceps and legs. Keep up the great content 💪🏾
@corenko
@corenko 3 күн бұрын
We need this for Pull and Leg day too
@sethkang4410
@sethkang4410 3 күн бұрын
this why peter is the best. hes open to all ideas and make tweaks that work for everyome
@angmori172
@angmori172 3 күн бұрын
This might be an archaic take, but I feel like Low Volume, HIT Training (or at least relatively lower volume and frequency) is the best way, at least for me, to just build. I personally love going really hard, I much prefer building up to one heavy top set with maybe a drop set or super set or partials to go beyond failure (with weights I can do at least 6-8 reps with impeccable form) and really squeeze the shit out of the muscle. This is with compounds. Then I like to add one isolation movement with low weight, high-rep myo sets or stuff like that to squeeze it even more until it's completely f***ed. Higher volume and frequency with lower relative weights feels better for cutting, when you wanna up the amount of calories you burn, you don't wanna go too heavy and intense due to injury risk from relative low energy, and you want overwhelming volume to just force the body to hang onto the muscle.
@mrtapataap6929
@mrtapataap6929 3 күн бұрын
no need to add shits like drop set they do little to nothing but add immense fatigue
@kidbrown2010
@kidbrown2010 3 күн бұрын
@@mrtapataap6929 The fatigue is okay when you are doing such little volume. That's what Mike Mentzer did and why a lot of people fail with HIT. Failure is not enough, you gotta go all out brains to the wall if you are gonna train that little.
@angmori172
@angmori172 3 күн бұрын
@@mrtapataap6929 oh look who is the undoubted expert on lifting, thank you so much for gracing me with your divine knowledge. I bow before the might of your intellect and experience
@theiceman7590
@theiceman7590 3 күн бұрын
I've tried higher volumes. It just doesnt work for me
@jrnyc8868
@jrnyc8868 2 күн бұрын
Definitely, it’s all contextual and you never know what’s right for you (and when) until you try it yourself
@davebuckman8841
@davebuckman8841 3 күн бұрын
Dy made the most sense to me maybe one warm up then one working set to failure then move on.
@charliebartlett5768
@charliebartlett5768 3 күн бұрын
2 sets per exercise in my opinion. I find personally that I can perform 2 good sets with maximum intensity, after that my performance drops off a cliff. Plus I find often the 2nd set actually feels better in terms of mind muscle connection, joints etc.
@cx2900
@cx2900 3 күн бұрын
@@charliebartlett5768 I also find that sometimes my second set is my best. things only get better after the second set if it's an exercise I'm not very good at though, which suggests to me that with greater skill the first set would be the best. whatever works for you WHEN it works for you, because the same things won't always work the same at different times.
@nah88
@nah88 3 күн бұрын
I like 2 sets warm up sets, 2 working sets. 1st working set, heavy weight, max 6 reps weight. Rest/pause to failure. Then half the weight, go max reps, rest/pause to failure.
@Metal94head
@Metal94head 2 күн бұрын
this might be the greatest training method. it’s the easiest to program for yourself and is super fun. its only weaknesses are the low-ish frequency (research points to higher frequency being better, which doesn’t really matter as long as you are progressing) and the fact that you actually have to know how to go to failure and keep good form under pressure. great video
@TRAVELFILMEXPLORE
@TRAVELFILMEXPLORE 2 күн бұрын
always good straightforward, old-school commonsense training advice ..in contrast to all the unnecessarily overcomplicated, overhyped BS advice on KZbin now👊 Simple is good.
@captainamerica5945
@captainamerica5945 3 күн бұрын
Mike Menzer is a Legend
@chrisgrissom3610
@chrisgrissom3610 16 сағат бұрын
Excellent video
@muhammadasifsheikh1092
@muhammadasifsheikh1092 3 күн бұрын
Amazing, please come with more lifting videos like this, it's fun to see your workout with voice over of information.
@barbedwiredbear3308
@barbedwiredbear3308 2 күн бұрын
Big mentzer fan here. This was a great vid displaying exactly how mentzer style should be applied. This really makes it make sense. It is confusing to merely read what mentzer asserted n then try to apply it w.o guidance.
@cujopujato5681
@cujopujato5681 11 сағат бұрын
I have had to learn through trial and error and re visiting material over and over before I understood it. I believe most people struggle with the movements being slow and using lower weights to accomplish that. Then there's emphasis on negatives and holds which puts a nice icing on it all and really kicks the ass. I gym solo so I have to do tricks to get past failure reps and I'll take a good 3-4 days just to recover and another day to build.
@RaymelSanchez-d9g
@RaymelSanchez-d9g Күн бұрын
Great vide, waiting for the second part
@roadstar499
@roadstar499 Күн бұрын
I actually train very similar to this...I do warm up.then a heavier warmup,then a set where I do 80% to 90% all out with a weight I can do around 12 to 15 reps...then for last set of I would add a little more weight and give it 100% 6 to 10 reps...I am a natural 65 year old 6' 240lbs currently...been as big as fairly lean 275...decades ago training with more volume... but never worked out more than 2 hours in a session...1.5 hours was normal 4 to 5 days a week...never less than 2 to 3 times a week for me..did many different workouts over the years...but I always pushed myself to failure and beyond in many workouts...At 65 with a bunch of injuries,non from training,I always try to improve my workouts still..I eat way less now and recovery is not nearly as good..I still love training..over last decade I only train in my home gym by myself...I still get great mmind muscle connections .thanks for sharing.
@matthewcarbone2108
@matthewcarbone2108 3 күн бұрын
My favorite style of training
@davincibz1
@davincibz1 Күн бұрын
Very well explained
@BrendanBryceFit
@BrendanBryceFit 3 күн бұрын
Another great video Pete, appreciate the new break down and walk through approach in this video 💪🏻
@ButchersNailsEnjoyer
@ButchersNailsEnjoyer 3 күн бұрын
As someone with an unpredictable work schedule where i could work 6 hours one day and 12 the next, HIT training is where it’s at, in and out in an hour and usually 2-3 days on and 1 day off.
@bambostarla6259
@bambostarla6259 2 күн бұрын
That works for me too. I dont really know what time I work, so hit full body 2/3 times a week really does it for me
@nbarealtalker
@nbarealtalker 3 күн бұрын
I did a stupid experiment and did a HIT style bro split for 43 straight days in the gym. I even lifted the weights as slowly as the negatives. Usually 2-3 exercises for a body part. 30-45min sessions. I got stronger the whole time, almost every single workout minus a couple bad ones. But my body definitely lost a bit of muscle and was beaten/depleted despite being stronger. HIT, properly applied, is the ONLY way to CONSISTENTLY expect improvement. But you need to master the discipline of frequency and restraint.
@jessedaughtry4433
@jessedaughtry4433 Күн бұрын
Sounds like you didn’t eat enough. Or frequency was too much
@JesusGarcia-Digem
@JesusGarcia-Digem 3 күн бұрын
Great content. H.I.T training is amazing, only way I train. The mission is simple progressive overload. Add more weight or reps or both. And keep a log book 📖 of the workouts. 💪😁👊
@budwise7332
@budwise7332 3 күн бұрын
What happens when you het to the point that you can't add anymore weight?
@matthewcarbone2108
@matthewcarbone2108 3 күн бұрын
100%
@colonalklink14
@colonalklink14 3 күн бұрын
​@@budwise7332 Do more volume.
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 3 күн бұрын
I've trained for over 35 years (drug free) and tried everything and for me lower volume with higher intensity I found has worked the best... (50 years old 5-11 230lbs with abs)...
@oasis283
@oasis283 3 күн бұрын
What kind of routine do you do? I'm the same 3 times per weeks my limit but can't get over the 200 pound mark, (natural lifter) aswell
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 3 күн бұрын
@@oasis283 upper lower 4 x a week with added arm's exercises on lower days as they can take it...
@oasis283
@oasis283 3 күн бұрын
@@Damian.Williams is that like upper one day lower next, rest then repeat?
@Damian.Williams
@Damian.Williams 3 күн бұрын
@oasis283 yes Mon upper Tues lower rest Thur upper Fri lower... Main focus on big heavy compound lifts... And train your weakness as they have the biggest room for improvement...
@oasis283
@oasis283 3 күн бұрын
@Damian.Williams cheers bro, hit a wall with my training just now
@goggins6121
@goggins6121 Күн бұрын
Thats why follow Jordan peters. Do volume based on your frequency.
@ericmalitz
@ericmalitz 3 күн бұрын
My goal is progressive overload but applied to a large number of joint functions. I train tibialis, hip flexors, various shoulder movements, various wrist/forearm movements, etc, in addition to a number of more “traditional” lifts. I have wrestled with applying HIT to this.
@Happy_Limpet
@Happy_Limpet 3 күн бұрын
Try doing 2 sets flat bench after doing this , everything fired and get great finisher , same on pull day - 2 sets rows at end after back, biceps .works well .
@can-usa
@can-usa 2 күн бұрын
I would never do HIT training, but this is an interesting take.
@angrygoldfish
@angrygoldfish 3 күн бұрын
I only ever found HIT to work for short periods of time or for certain muscle groups. My strength peaks because I'm so recovered, then I stall out because the stimulus is not high enough to progress. I invariably need to add volume back in, but then have to reduce intensity to 1-2 RIR to manage fatigue. So it goes back to the middle ground of 8-14 sets per muscle group per weak with 1-2 RIR. I find my legs respond better to HIT, but not my upper body.
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 2 күн бұрын
Same.
@WW-xo9ny
@WW-xo9ny 3 күн бұрын
Both systems work. So much depends on your genetics as to which system is “best”. The overall best system is the one you like! I use both these days as an older guy “57”. Upper body is volume especially arms and shoulders. Legs have responded best to HIT. Chest is my best body part so low volume high rep pumps. Every muscle group 1 time per week
@KerymRivas
@KerymRivas 2 күн бұрын
With that lighting, Pete looks like he's halfway through cosplaying as Doyle from Misfits for Halloween. PS: Pete, totally do that, it'll be dope.
@zacharyoverlien6050
@zacharyoverlien6050 3 күн бұрын
HIT and really high volume both fry my cns. Moderate volume and frequency to continue training seems to be the best.
@PeterKhatcherian
@PeterKhatcherian 3 күн бұрын
I agree pushing either to the extreme does the same for me. When training Lower volume the key is not to purposely train to failure and fail h under the load. Rather push to the last clean rep
@thunderkat5282
@thunderkat5282 3 күн бұрын
I’ve never gotten the BEST gains from The high volume approach no matter how hard I try or slice it. Even using RIR. I’m not saying extreme HIT is optimal either. But for sure not super high volume either. So… I don’t even acknowledge israetel and friends crap anymore.
@colonalklink14
@colonalklink14 3 күн бұрын
I am 55 years old and I train my compound lifts twice a week the first time I do 3-5 total sets per muscle, and the second time I do anywhere from 2-4 sets per muscle. My small muscle groups get once a week 4-5 total sets per muscle. Sometimes I go way past failure with cheating, rest pause, or negatives. That's only once in a while. *Normally I just fail in good form.*
@custardyboi6951
@custardyboi6951 3 күн бұрын
This is basically just Dorian style of training
@lucasyoutube10
@lucasyoutube10 2 күн бұрын
No. Yatees more volume more more
@papaspaulding
@papaspaulding 2 күн бұрын
as an intermediate or/especially advanced lifter for better results you'd be much better off doing two sets per exercise. Unless A: you're lifting a crazy heavy amount of weight each lift or B: You're on PEDs and can get away with minimal stimulation of the muscle C: you're extremely pressed for time and this is better than nothing D: you are doing this twice a week consistently and have a low work capacity
@jf6414
@jf6414 2 күн бұрын
Kudos...
@Miamiz24
@Miamiz24 3 күн бұрын
Wish you would have done a legs bare bones example with Barbells & DBs ,really let that fatigue set in
@BradNowlin
@BradNowlin 3 күн бұрын
You look fckin amazing
@leonidasbasatis4443
@leonidasbasatis4443 3 күн бұрын
This is the dy Approach with small tweaks on the exercise selection
@yoked391
@yoked391 Күн бұрын
Pete the Intern, good old times
@davidwilson2495
@davidwilson2495 3 күн бұрын
Are you going to do videos like this one on other body parts ie biceps back legs etc
@dyehenslevinkelevra7308
@dyehenslevinkelevra7308 Күн бұрын
So you hit a body part with 3 sets, that is HIT style sets, preceded by 2-4 warmup sets as needed. What about the rest time between sets for a body part, and between body parts, as well as training frequency in a weekly or monthly cycle? Is this a Push/Pull/Legs style split thing where you hit a body part twice a week ? Or a full-body approach where you can go as high as three times a week of recovery allows? Would it be once a week for people beginning or with little experience with HIT-style lifting or who have the chance to shock their muscle into growth but have poor recovery and need a five to seven day break before hitting a body part again, at least initially ?
@JD_82
@JD_82 3 күн бұрын
Not bad. But for most people stil to much exercises. I stopped training arms directly and they started growing. So pushing and pulling exercises, when going hard, could be enough for some to stimulate arms. Rest days are important shen doing hit as a natural. When mentzer said its easy to overtrain with this, he wasnt joking, when you master going hard and even beyond failure, you realy cant train 3 to 4 times a week as a natural.
@tonyvee5799
@tonyvee5799 2 күн бұрын
Im currently doing the mike mentzer routine Chest back, rest shoulders arms rest legs repeat. I think im overlapping the arms with this set up. Im going to start doing the push pull next week with push Chest triceps and quads Pull Back shoulder and biceps. And one leg curl
@izzymoney85
@izzymoney85 2 күн бұрын
How much weight should you do them dumbbell raises and side delts?
@MadMuscles
@MadMuscles 2 күн бұрын
Can we do dumbbell bench press instead of barbell
@zombar1982
@zombar1982 2 күн бұрын
Can you do an example for pull day and a leg day?
@Outstanding.Bill87
@Outstanding.Bill87 3 күн бұрын
Ever do any leg training videos bro?
@evanobrien7316
@evanobrien7316 3 күн бұрын
Hey Peter, I was just watching an old RX Muscle show “Heavy muscle TV ep 18 part 4” and you were in it posing at 21. How was your time interning for Dave Palumbo.
@PeterKhatcherian
@PeterKhatcherian 3 күн бұрын
A lot of great experiences. I filmed and interviewed a ton of pro bodybuilders and top amateurs at the time and got to learn a ton of priceless knowledge on training
@evanobrien7316
@evanobrien7316 3 күн бұрын
@@PeterKhatcherian thanks for the response. It was weird seeing you out of nowhere posing in the episode.
@carlanthonyholmes2162
@carlanthonyholmes2162 2 күн бұрын
Overhead cable tricep extensions kill me tbh. I'm sucking wind and wincing in pain after a set.
@vanjamilosevic6937
@vanjamilosevic6937 3 күн бұрын
Pete what do you think about HIT style Arnold's split done every other day?
@ericmalitz
@ericmalitz 3 күн бұрын
Why not replace the skull crusher with overhead tricep extension? That is, since you’re doing the JM press after.
@jspratt44
@jspratt44 3 күн бұрын
This question isn’t relevant to the video but I’m a 23m and have been lifting for over 3 years but I have hit a plateau and considering changing my current workout. I weigh 135 lbs but can lift a decent amount of weight including hitting 225 on the flat for 1 and 185 on incline for 1. Im thinking about doing a torso arm rest torso arm leg split to get stronger upper body wise. Would this be a good idea. I need to eat way more than what I have been so that’s a factor as well. Edit* I also plan to do 1 heavy torso and arm day and the other moderate
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 2 күн бұрын
EAT MORE FOOD
@Joe-xj2tb
@Joe-xj2tb 3 күн бұрын
I have tried every single way to workout yet found that my body is geneticaly limited at 165lbs, I am beginning to think blood type may also play a part.
@awaterproofing
@awaterproofing Күн бұрын
Whats does he mean when he says 9 total L working sets, 6 for chest, 6 for shoulders, 6 for triceps? Does that mean 2 exercises for each movement? Thanks
@PeterKhatcherian
@PeterKhatcherian Күн бұрын
@@awaterproofing if I said that then it was an error on my part. What I meant to say was 9 total sets. 3 chest 3 shoulders 3 triceps
@jeffreywingham5302
@jeffreywingham5302 3 күн бұрын
I've gained more training this way on no drugs than I ever did training volume on drugs. There is a learning curve to do it correctly.
@ew-zd1th
@ew-zd1th 2 күн бұрын
Holy Shit thats crazy. Have you First taking roids while doing volume Training. Than Stop taking roids and starting Hit and get the biggest you ever been?
@Regularguy1798
@Regularguy1798 3 күн бұрын
Actually the warm-up sets are far more than one set....
@FirstChoiceMechanical-ck9ch
@FirstChoiceMechanical-ck9ch 3 күн бұрын
Warmups don’t count lol. They have a lot of “RIR”
@shinobi339
@shinobi339 19 сағат бұрын
noice
@andrewsherman2398
@andrewsherman2398 3 күн бұрын
If you're doing a whole bunch of "warm up" sets then how is it considered one set
@PeterKhatcherian
@PeterKhatcherian 3 күн бұрын
Warm up sets are not fatiguing and not working sets
@andrewsherman2398
@andrewsherman2398 3 күн бұрын
@@PeterKhatcherian I don't know about you but every set I do gives me some fatigue unless I'm doing just enough to get some blood flowing and my nervous system primed for work which for me is like 8 to 10 reps with an empty bar
@mattym2954
@mattym2954 3 күн бұрын
💪🏼
@serhii-kk
@serhii-kk 3 күн бұрын
If you bench 140 kg for 10 reps, how would you warm up? Each warm up set you would do for 10 reps? For example I start from empty bar for 10, then second warm up set for 9 then for 8 and so on. Last warm up set would be twice less reps than first working set. And how would you run it?
@intuitivehomebrew3199
@intuitivehomebrew3199 3 күн бұрын
HIT Training can be nice when you are very time poor for workouts.
@Parkism-d6x
@Parkism-d6x 3 күн бұрын
👊🔥
@Impulse_28
@Impulse_28 3 күн бұрын
Enough pete ....you created everything you could. Don't go down the same route of milking money from these topics over and over again like those idiot influencers. It's repetitive and after a certain point gets confusing overtime. Had an amazing learning from your videos but would not want to see you create more copies of the same thing.
@user-he4ef9br7z
@user-he4ef9br7z 3 күн бұрын
He should do gym reactions and tier lists with soyface in the thumbnail instead.
@Impulse_28
@Impulse_28 3 күн бұрын
@@user-he4ef9br7z I understand the sarcasm but consider this: Video 1 - sun rises from the east. Video 2 - sun doesn't rise from the west Video 2 - sun doesn't rise from the south Video 3 - sun doesn't rise from the north All i want to say is fitness in the context of gym is a finite topic. The amount of videos pete has created is enough and i have learned a lot from them. But at this point it is being repetitive. He should reinvent while still not making a soyface thumbnail stuff.
@PeterKhatcherian
@PeterKhatcherian 3 күн бұрын
Not sure what you mean. I’ve never covered this workout I performed in this video.
@Impulse_28
@Impulse_28 3 күн бұрын
​@@PeterKhatcheriani agree....but the key takeaway and the philosophy that you ultimately take away from this video is the same. If anyone (like myself) who has watched each of your videos thoroughly will know that they already knew what you just explained in this video too.
@RuskiyStandardRaw
@RuskiyStandardRaw 3 күн бұрын
Solid "criticism" because we all love this channel. I personally would like to see a long format here and there. An entire 30-40 minute training session just mic'd up.
@savanthsajil7857
@savanthsajil7857 3 күн бұрын
Your pecs are cooked 😂
@finnbodenmann5928
@finnbodenmann5928 2 күн бұрын
Bad skin , why ?
@VigorousVirgo
@VigorousVirgo 3 күн бұрын
First?
@davidwilson2495
@davidwilson2495 3 күн бұрын
Sounds like dogg crap training
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