What Would Jesus Disrupt? (feat. Shannon Q) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News

Ken Ham and his team have a bi-weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
Shannon Q and I join Ken Ham, Georgia Purdom and Bodie Hodge as they discuss geckos, a student disrupting class and more in this episode of Answers News hosted in front of a live audience at the Creation Museum.
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[@VicedRhino]

The dinosaur gladiator arena diorama made me a Christian. Only God could explain something so amazing.

[@jeffboice4790]

45 minutes in the Ark and I would even make a deal with Satan to get me the hell out.

[@terryfuldsgaming7995]

It's funny to me how an extremist conservative is a fascist wanting to murder people for how they were born, and an extreme liberal saves whales and endangered species, but republitards say liberals are the violent ones oppressing them...

[@axer3515]

I keep telling you. Atheists can't damage the church as much as the church is damaging itself.

[@axer3515]

That's just not true. Both sides have violent prone people in them.quite frankly, liberals tend to get angry quickly. Look at Alex Baldwin. If one side had less it would probably growing faster than the other.

[@birdjo6234]

@@jayb0g yeah, that is true. almost all terrorism was conducted by right wing extremists last year. People like Alec Baldwin might make dumb semantic mistakes when they say islamaphobia is "racist," but they still have a point. People like Sam Harris do consistently group moderates, which in my opinion, are the equivalent of footfall fans, in with extremists. This idea that moderates of any faith-based belief is either liberal or conservative can be disputed easily by changing the time subject belief from a minority to a minority, or vice versa, because liberals tend to look out for the minority while conservatives tend to care more for the majority.

[@OwenMorganTelltale]

HECK YOU GUYS AND YOUR FREE HEALTHCARE ;-;

[@Detective_Stone]

Right!!!!!!!! rubbing it in our face like that.

[@mudbaeley9199]

You’re the one who introduced me to paulogia! Thank you!

[@theblackswan2373]

I pay $2200+/month, Canada looks pretty good….

[@Steve-Cross]

I was an Atheist until I heard Ken Ham speak... He convinced me to want to shoot myself in the face... But then I found Paulogia and I was SAVED... So, thank you for bringing me back from the brink... A BORN AGAIN ATHEIST... :-)

[@LetruneInedil]

steve cross Long live your genes in the genepool! Can I hear a... what we got instead of Halleluja? 42? :3

[@kathyheitchue6069]

Luv it fantastic

[@EdwardHowton]

Wanting to end your life does sound like the natural thing for someone to want if Ken Ham is speaking to them, yes.

[@Timmeh_The_tyrant]

And you are clearly just grandstanding.

[@ThePlumAbides]

I was an atheist until I went to the ark encounter and now I'm a creationist Christian. I'm also a unicorn, and a leprechaun, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[@kimweaver3323]

Have you met the Great Pumpkin? If you can reach him, please have him call Linus.

[@robertnett9793]

Probably you went the wrong way, and stumbled - instead of the ark encounter - over one of dem newfangled dope dispenseries in Canada? But being a unicorn is definitely worth the hassle in either way.

[@markgigiel2722]

A Dawkins reference. Very good.

[@188basstrom]

Amen Bro and don't forget the Knockers

[@JaceDeanLove]

Do not put yourself at the level of His Noodly Appendage

[@Kauldrin]

Not only do I doubt they have the tools to convert an atheist to a christian, I doubt they could convert from imperial to metric.

[@theghost2683]

My JW lacks any tools to try to convert me. I do enjoy his visits, and his attemps. It makes for a interesting Saturday.

[@robertnett9793]

@@theghost2683 : So you have your own personal JW to brighten up lazy Saturdays. You surely are blessed :D

[@aprilk141]

They didn't like 2.54 so they rounded it up to 3.

[@188basstrom]

Don't they use cubits?

[@mrmegahousefly]

@@188basstrom Yes. And in cubits, pi is 3. Creationist math is easy.

[@ThEjOkErIsWiLd00]

whenever a theist is all "Waaaaaaah! I'm being persectued!" I translate it into "Waaaaaah! Our numbers are dwindling and our (im)moral majority rule is being threatened!" and I am pleased :)

[@daverobson3084]

Persecution of theists happens all of the time. Usually at the hands of other theists.

[@ferociousfeind8538]

To the privileged, equality feels like oppression

[@secretfox8940]

My daughter's 6th grade science teacher said "religion doesn't belong in here, this is science class" We agree.

[@markgigiel2722]

The south must have missed some of the evolution and got left behind.

[@robertnett9793]

@@markgigiel2722 : Now... religion, epsecially priests / shamans evolved from primitive people try to explain the unexplainable - to scamming fraudsters preying (little pun intendet) on the very sophisticated ingrained gullibility and believe in authority they groomed for generations. This is a kind of evolution, right?

[@ryanehlis426]

Except we are created in God’s image and God made everything.

[@unit0033]

@@ryanehlis426 lol

[@manusiabumi7673]

@@ryanehlis426 you got it backwards, HUMAN created god in THIER image

[@0x777]

I'd wager the number of people who went there as Christians and came out as atheists is higher than the other way around. It's like reading the bible, that's essentially what made me an atheist. I read that book and my reaction was basically "That's worse than the worst Star Trek fanfic, that god character..." I have never seen a worse Mary Sue than the god of the bible. Can do everything, does know everything, is the best and greatest, everyone else wants to be his friend, even after he makes the life of the other characters difficult and puts them in danger and requires them to clean up that Mary Sue's fuckups... and unlike the average Mary Sue he doesn't even have the courtesy to die heroically to save the others in the end.

[@galloe8933]

Is that some really bad writing advice?

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

No, that's the best part about God Sue, he dies in the end but, oh wait with his infinite powers he just comes back to life, but it's somehow just as meaningful and heroic because symbolism. The ultimate Mary Sue.

[@0x777]

It's worse than that. He didn't have the guts to die but instead sent his son to do it for him. Is there ANYTHING this god does himself instead of having someone else do his work?

[@galloe8933]

God was his son, it's some deep Southern Banjo playing family drama. But I stand by what I had asked, and now repeat as a statement. The Bible really fell deep into all the things that a story should never do, and I know this is not the most popular opinion but I think the Bible is a second or third-rate storybook. When does Jesus start playing the Anit-Hero?

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

@@galloe8933 Around Revelations probably.

[@RationalMind]

To clarify. The abortion study that Shannon cited found that *surgical* abortion increased the risk factor of preterm birth by 0.7%. In constrast, they found that *medical* (i.e. pharmaceutical) abortion didn't have any additional risk compared to the control groups. The take-home point is that medical abortion is OK, surgical abortion carries a little bit of risk.

[@ShannonQ]

Thank you! In my hasty live real time research I didn't review it as deeply as I could have so I appreciate this.

[@farleyxwilbur655]

I caught this too, and in fact the 'news' article headline contradicts the subheadline and the body text, which is why one should never trust common news media when reporting science. Still, as a scientist (paleobiology), had someone brought up abortion in either a paleontology class or a geology class, the whole class would have told that person to sit down and shut up. But then I was in university in the 60's through the 80's and no one was concerned about anyone's "feelings"--we cared about the education. (BTW, science turned me into an atheist, although I was never a strong believer in god--I just frankly didn't care much.)

[@spamfilter32]

@Shannon Q To be fair to you though, the study did say the increase was to the "risk factor" not to the event itself. Also, I would think it fair to say that an increase of 0.7% is a negligible increase. So, you were probably more right then wrong, even with the mistake. Also, I am super jealous of your guys free healthcare. It is unbelievably frustrating that the first meaningful healthcare reform this country has had since the invention of Health Insurance is being destroyed by the party that invented that same reform because a "Black Man" had the temerity to get it passed.

[@TerenceClark]

Also worth noting ALL surgery carries some risks. Even routine, outpatient surgeries.

[@ThW5]

Not negligible on a population level, you understand that that means 7 preterm babies for every thousand born to post-sugery patients? If we expect many post-surgery gravidae, 50,000 or so, we have hundreds of babies with problems which could have been prevented by using another way to clean out mommie's womb.

[@djstringsmusic2994]

Viced rhino does have some good dad jokes. Lol

[@Saitaina]

He has the best. I have honestly found myself literally loling while watching before bed.

[@beowulfandstuff5547]

It's very comforting

[@DonaldKronos]

About what Shannon said at 28:00 ... Keep in mind that Ken Ham thinks "THE FLINTSTONES" is a documentary. OF COURSE he thinks "God is Not Dead" is a documentary too!

[@southernsal3113]

I'm so curious about what anyone thinks about Morgan Freeman's documentary about God? He goes to many cultures, and ALL of them have a version of "God". I haven't seen any Christian even address it. The doccie is a few years old already.

[@YaBoiKeith]

My intro to philosophy professor told the class something to the effect of "some of you are probably religious, some of you probably aren't. Debates can get heated, so please be respectful towards eachother. If I think that the debate is getting to heated, then I'll stop it". It was impossible to tell if he was religious or not unless you asked him in private.

[@nightlife5034]

I am glad you had such a professor who was so respectable.

[@SawtoothWaves]

What?! He didn't make you all sign pledges that declared the death of god? The Newsboys lied to me.

[@Shake69ification]

As he should. It's his job to present differing views and be more of an unbiased moderator in discussions.

[@D-me-dream-smp]

Shannon Q is so funny and you guys are excellent together. I love Paulogia’s dry humour too. Ken Ham is such a con man and money is his real “God.”

[@jarrod752]

[@troyshelly9758]

Me too lol

[@billyjacobs190]

No atheist went there and believed. I don't see that happening. I know I didn't. That place is a joke.

[@timeshark8727]

_"Guess I'll just wait here... and blink..."_ I fell out of my chair from that. Thank you Paul

[@timeshark8727]

So... does this mean that if someone randomly started talking about that sort of thing in one of their creationist classes that they "teach" and was against their stance, they would need to sit there and smile about it?

[@Krikenemp18]

Guarantee they'd throw you out of a sermon if you stood up and started talking about evolution.

[@Nervardia]

D&C actually stands for dilation and curettage. They dilate the cervix and use an implement called a courette to scrape the lining of the womb. It isn't only used for cleaning out leftover debris from a miscarriage/pregnancy or an abortion, they also use it to remove other abnormalities such as endometrial polyps, cancers and endometrial hyperplasia. It is also used as a diagnostic test.

[@Waspinmymind]

Oh the horror someone stop me from derailing the class. I must be oppress.

[@Saitaina]

I'm an autistic know it all...I have been accused of derailing many, many times. But I also know to shut up when a teacher sharply says my name (...yeah, they had to do it in college too).

[@robwhythe793]

On the issue of the Valerie Flokstra discussion about abortion: I can see in her approach to abortion the same that I have come across in other christians, both in Canada and in America - the conviction that they are right to oppose abortion under any circumstances, and to quote their faith as absolute authority to say so. In other words, to close down discussion by saying they are right and you are wrong. I am a British christian currently living in Canada, and I am appalled at this approach. I would never claim to be absolutely correct on any matter of faith, and I would always be open to discuss any matter of faith with anyone - christian or atheist, or someone of another faith. And, as Shannon showed, her evidence for her point of view actually undermined it and suggested the opposite was true. She had accepted what she had been told, or what she had seen in a program or a video, as truth without checking it, and was pushing her truth onto the class as a whole and onto the two members of staff who spoke to her afterwards. I have discussed the issue of abortion with my own Baptist pastor (who holds extreme "Right to Life" views), and the question of Young Earth Creationism with a youth worker, and both of them presented their views as the only "correct" christian view, and implied that I was completely wrong to hold any other view. I tried to engage both of them on the basis of scientific evidence and (in the case of abortion) the need to do the minimum harm, but neither of them would engage in any way other than on their own interpretation of the Bible. In the case of YEC, this involved the youth worker in rejecting wholesale all the evidence available from radiometric dating techniques, without having a shred of evidence that they were untrustworthy. As a christian, I am ashamed of others who hold faith in the same Saviour as myself, who put up such ignorant and impervious shields against discussion. I am therefore not surprised to hear that Valerie ended up working in a christian school, because she wouldn't be able to cope with having anyone hold a contrary view to herself. It is such a pity, and I hope north america can find some way to resolve this, because it is turning anyone who has any scientific knowledge against the church, and marginalizing it. On a side note, I once worked for a period in Jordan, and was taken out for the day by a Jordanian colleague who was eager to show me the best of his country. He took me first to Madaba, then down the mountains beside Jordan's east bank to Petra, which was stunning. Then we drove back at the end of the day along the fringe of the desert. The problem was that my friend could speak little English, and I no Arabic. Very early in the day it was clear that he had a question for me, and we struggled to understand each other. Eventually the conversation ran like this: - You're a christian, right? - Yes, I am - How many Gods do you believe in? - One God. - Good - must be the same as mine. He wanted me to understand that he intended to stop at intervals along the road to pray, and wanted to be sure I'd be ok with that. For him, if we both believed in one God it didn't matter how we each prayed to him. It was an open and inclusive way of thinking that opened up our discussion rather than becoming a barrier between us. I wish my own church here in Canada could learn this.

[@Cornu341]

Even as a strong atheist I would have had no problem letting this man pray. That is just a matter of respect for the other person as a human being.

[@nearlyinfinitetortoise8308]

I'm a gay man, I've been out for 10 years now and I've never qustioned it...but...If there is one thing that could make me straight its an angry Shannon Q. Shes just glorious to listen too.

[@jtveg]

Awesome. I've been waiting for a new Ham and AIG news episode.

[@ShannonQ]

FIRST

[@JohnnyDrivebye]

I love it! It's great hearing you 2 have so much fun doing this.

[@bendavid84]

Cheater!

[@roygossjr]

Shannon Q first only counts if you tell a joke

[@marlenesollgruber9186]

Shannon Q re we really still supposed to care who was first? Love you Shannon but first? That’s what hey ( or maybe we do on those real crime channels) But please keep up the good work! Thanks from Austria,!😍

[@billyjacobs190]

Doesn't count

[@chrisdolan9579]

Someone needs to tell the disruptive student, and AIG, it's not about freedom of speech, it's about having some damn respect for the people around you!

[@ericosullivan2886]

Again, abortion simply was not part of the conversation. Students did not pay money (and possibly get up early) to learn more about another student's views on abortion. If this was a philosophy class and they were talking about human sexuality, I can see where abortion might come up. If this was a poli sci class and they were talking about campaign issues, I can see where abortion might come up. But, learning how to teach autistic children, is not the time to try and bring up abortion.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Also, "Freedom of Speech" does not apply to classrooms. You don't have "freedom of speech" in a classroom setting. You are there to listen to your teacher, and perhaps ask them to clarify something they said. It is *not* a forum for debate.

[@jessilink2806]

Is it bad that I just want to have a drink with Shannon? Every time she's on the show I just feel like the convo should be happening over some beers, while we all become progressively more drunk due to the sadness Ken is causing us to feel xD

[@winstonfuller6989]

imagine if they "conserved" how teaching was accomplished in the "good old days" of the 1950s, where some one received corporal punishment for speaking in class

[@alexconnor6456]

I am 23, and only recently found out that I am autistic. I was considered gifted in school and separated from my classmates in order to learn at a higher level than them and constantly told that I was a genius. Having teachers learn about autism and how to teach kids with autism is so important. I was lucky that I was adequately pushed to learn, but I wasn't lucky enough to have teachers that tried to foster social skills in me. Of course, since I wasn't diagnosed at the time, I don't fault them. But it is an important thing for teachers to know about, and this lady probably learned nothing from the class if she was more worried about sharing abortion statistics.

[@bigdude8468]

For many Christians, feeling persecuted internally validates that they are special, serious Christians. And their story, when shared with other Christians who agree and relay their story gives them external validation of that helps them feel heroic. How sad...

[@burke615]

For anyone who hasn't heard of him, potholer54 has good videos in which he explains how to track down sources, even when they aren't provided by the person making the claim.

[@kayb9979]

I would also recommend CoolHardLogic.

[@TheRevDel]

Though it's not relvenat to AIg, potholer also has a very easy to digest primer on climate change. Watch it if you want to understand climate change better and you only have basic education on the subject.

[@sqeeye3102]

Another fantastic episode as usual, thank you guys. Also, looks like you were doing a bit of a ventriloquist act at 35:17 to 35:23.

[@laurajarrell6187]

Paulogia, that was fun. Watching Shannon lose her, um, temper? I understood her frustration with AIG bullshit, yet it was fascinating she responded exactly the way I do. Louder, laughing incredulity, shock at how AIG hadn't a clue, or at least pretended they misunderstood the issue, just to play their worn out victim narrative! So predictable that Brodie didn't get to trot out his fallacy fallacies! Kudos to you for 'letting' her vent! Love and Peace

[@coopergates9680]

I've been waiting for a Ham and AiG Aron + Shannon ranting contest.

[@erictaylor5462]

I can talk to you guys if I just say "The Ark encounter converted me"? I'm in. Let's do it.

[@JosephKano]

Eric Taylor to what though?

[@nightlife5034]

4:25 Well, I was never an atheist turned YEC due to AiG, but I was a YEC turned to now a evolutionist due to Paulogia. Thanks Paul for your wonderful videos.

[@ShannonQ]

Best comment!

[@badger1296]

😡I have a master's-level education and I have attended x2 city colleges, a state university, and a non-religious private university. The only time that I've heard of an instructor mention creationism was when they felt that their class's topic might run contradictory to some pupils' religious beliefs (e.g. how solar systems and planets were/are formed, the age of the Earth, biological evolution). Even still, my instructors broached the creationism/religious beliefs as a way to preface the class so that students with firmly held religious beliefs (or ignorance) would not feel attacked or shamed. Instead, instructors encouraged all students to look at the (verifiable/replicable) evidence without prejudice and to come to their own conclusions. Not to say that it has never happened, but I have never seen a religious student be singled out or have their beliefs disrespected, like AIG suggests happens ad nauseam. If an instructor had discussed a student's belief(s), it was always initiated by the student and the instructor had always acted politly to the student. AIG seems to be perpetuating what Hannah and Jake have dubbed, "persecution porn."

[@grahvis]

How to persecute a Christian, stop them persecuting or interfering with the rights of others. Incidentally in 2010 the death rate of preterm babies in the USA was 12%, in Canada 7.8%. Ah yes, those dangerous Canadian practices. I wonder if Ken Ham and his crew have ever heard of the 9th Commandment, it wouldn't appear they have.

[@meptune]

Ken was a guest speaker at the EV church I went to for years. That church was right by a University and lots of tech; many members were very educated, but the pastor was not. Everyone I know (save the pastor) thought Hamm was an idiot. I'm glad I got to see him, he was a big straw and the camel's back was already breaking.

[@TheLithp]

I'm actually a former atheist who was converted by attending the Creation Museum. You see, around lunch time, I tripped down some stairs & sustained several serious head injuries.

[@merissamakesstuff]

I'm autistic, and I think if we integrate too soon it makes the Autistic kids feel like they are dumb if they can't grasp the social skills or the learning. I gave up in school and on making friendsfor years because I was integrated too soon and became afraid to interact with any kids. Now I have intense socialanxiety on top of Autism. I think we too often integrate too fast. Integrate at the pace for the child. No more of this," At this point (insert Autistic child) will n Be ready to integrate to this degree. Few understand just how many factors really go into whether a child will be successful with integration including the speen, the students, the work challenge, the number of posters, objects and kids in the room and much more. I might decide to write a piece on integration on my Medium. Thanks, Shannon, for bringing it to mind!

[@dethspud]

Being the bully then playing the victim when challenged is standard operating procedure for these folks. It feeds into their persecution complex and their worldview.

[@thomasridley8675]

I dont know what camera setup AIG is using but it makes everyone look white.

[@mrmegahousefly]

That is a good thing. We do not want to believe that black people believe in that nonsense.

[@bluedragonfly8139]

"I was scared to be a Christian in that program." Your recording and the fact that you felt perfectly comfortable derailing class more than once to talk about your beliefs kind of flies in the face of that, but ok.

[@qbradq]

I don't know why but the Ham and AiG episodes are the only apologetics videos I will watch over and over. Great work!

[@kerryn6714]

Hey Paul! Great upload as always. If you have time, please check out an upload called “What Would Jesus Do: Donate Your Organs” by the channel “Dying to Live”. It’s a bit of light hearted satire to promote awareness about organ donation in Australia. Some of your former brethren have lost their tiny minds over it & are really showing their “christian” side. Have a great weekend 😊🇦🇺✌️

[@nightsshadow1678]

maybe Christians should do like Sherlock from the show elementary said " monogamy is outdated and so is the concept of marriage people should just use sex as a form of exercise and enjoy it" if they do this maybe they will focus on their own lives and not try to push their agenda on others

[@healioxflame3624]

Remember to follow links in the description, they never let you down, or give you up

[@bobjones5166]

I always look for the original links. If I forward a story on to someone else I sent the original and not the one of the person presenting the story. Unless they do a real good job on analyses, then I will send both. :)

[@tricitymorte1]

What a load of self-righteous whining! I agree with Shannon, that just made me angry.

[@CupCake_Chaos]

Shannon is so done with the apologists bullshit! Love it! Stand up for truth ✊🏻

[@willowwisp357]

People from Earth are called terrestrials I'm guessing that all that spare parking ar the ark park is for extra terrestrials.

[@DuhIdiot1]

Sooooo those Paulogia episodes featuring SciManDan, Conspiracy Catz, and Cosmic Skeptic'll be out any day now, right? Yes, I know none of their subject matter overlaps yours at all. Make it happen! 😁

[@jamescunningham4418]

only here for the cartoon knockers ...and to say Ken Ham is a BOOB!

[@mrmegahousefly]

I like boobies, especially blue-footed boobies. Tits are good too. Great tits. Coal tits. Marsh Tits. Willow tits...

[@furryskeptic5456]

By the end of this, I really wanted to give Shannon a hug. ( and a high five!) :p

[@riamus7258]

Eyy fellow fury

[@matejbludsky8410]

I always let the ads run to at least provide you guys some profit from that :) know its not much but at least little bit

[@DutchJoan]

The wonderful combination of Shannon's righteous indignation and her contagious laugh. I love the visuals in this video, a lot of fun!

[@camwyn256]

Now I want to listen to South Park’s “Blame Canada” song

[@Mikey-dt5xi]

I like when you two host together.

[@ShannonQ]

Thanks! We have a lot of fun!

[@danthebookhunter]

Just saw the screen shot of Appalachian Bible College, Mount Hope, WV. I live 40 minutes away. Not surprised that they get Ken Hamm's endorsement it always seemed like it would be his kind of place.

[@virtualstoa650]

3:18 - That fork being held by that person in the statue riding the rooster -- is that the same fork that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was wound upon? :-P

[@thymelord]

Virtual Stoa I think so. His noodly appendage approves of forking...

[@MightyRagnarok]

Whoa Shannon!!! Calm down!!! You're out of control!!! ;P

[@ShannonQ]

I'm a nightmare!

[@Paxaboll]

I want AiG to go away, but you two can keep your shows, please. Thanks for being you, and I'm sorry that I had to "meet" you.

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

The one good thing about AiG news: Ham and AiG

[@MIKIVELES369]

I was gonna say something about the absence of Q over here, but seeing her being so busy and engaged in everything on her channel and some other ones too and add plus few live podcasts , it became obvious. Welcome back.

[@henrikbger4111]

Atheist Participant & Disgruntled Father, the new superpopular, hitmaking duo ... can't wait for the cd!

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

Wait. Is Shannon Q just Morgan doing a voice?

[@Odinwray]

Ham ane AiGs is so funny! 😂 Love your show Paulogia!

[@vCoralSandsv]

Omgosh Ham & AIG! Yay! Shannon! You had me rolling! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ShannonQ]

lol thanks

[@silhouette9108]

900 is 900,000 unto the Lord

[@nikolademitri731]

Silhouette 😂

[@grvonny]

I wen to the Ark park and I converted into not even believing in my existence.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

I used to be an atheist. I still am, but I used to, too.

[@markchip1]

A large majority of the atheist visitors to the Ark Encounter are going for the sheer comedic value of the trip. It is undoubtedly very funny, even though you have to stifle your laughter!

[@snake_hole2886]

you two are having way too much fun

[@ArtfullyMusingLaura]

You mean Ken Ham lies about attendance, slap me with a feather.

[@tomthumb1322]

The angrier Shannon gets, the more I love her.

[@Puffalupagus360]

@paulogia I may be heading for the border if the Republicans manage to repeal interracial marriages' legality.

[@LisaForTruth]

27:50-I'm halfway to a master's degree, and I have NEVER heard that in ANY class, not even my anthro classes (and anthropologists have a reputation of most of them being atheist.)

[@ericosullivan2886]

The student in question probably felt like, "I have a captive audience to share the gospel." The problem is that a classroom wide conversation needs to be about, say the lesson. The professor has a limited amount of time, in which to transfer knowledge.

[@sageohio1864]

Even a cartoon Shannon is anything better than AIG can offer

[@HumbleTemplar]

I know this comment does not really touches on the topic, but I really like when you feature Shannon Q. I love how much fun she's having and how it shows. Always gets me smiling

[@johnobrien6415]

I took freshmen philosophy in college and I'm sure the professor was an atheist. The campus crusade for Christ person in the class really only got shit from other students. The professor didn't care what your viewpoint was, he only wanted you to express it with defined concepts and defend it with sound arguments. He wanted you to be able to think critically.

[@tommytomtom320]

Noah and His Ark Problems... Even if Noah could acquire the impossible amount of wood needed to construct it, however, we run into further problems. The Ark would have been a sizable fraction of the size of an Aircraft Carrier or a Battleship, and a wooden boat that size would have been too leaky and flexible to withstand the stresses of global flood conditions. ( It Being smaller then the Titanic ) 1. ~7.77 million species of animals (of which 953,434 have been described and cataloged) 2. ~298,000 species of plants (of which 215,644 have been described and cataloged) 3. ~611,000 species of fungi (moulds, mushrooms) (of which 43,271 have been described and cataloged) 4. ~36,400 species of protozoa (single-cell organisms with animal-like behavior, eg. movement, of which 8,118 have been described and cataloged) 5. ~27,500 species of chromista (including, eg. brown algae, diatoms, water moulds, of which 13,033 have been described and cataloged) Conclusion: Noah supposedly took two pairs of each animal. That means Noah at least has to fill and feed more than 10 million animals in his ship. Don't for get all the waist management. (if we exclude animals living in sea and include insects). Neither description of ark in Bible can satisfy this demands nor any ship ever builded in human history. Story of Noah is probably written by people who thought there were at most several hundreds of species living in the world. Using The Evidence Shows The Ark Could Not Be True... It's Just a Made up Story's “No amount of Evidence will Ever Persuade an. Ignorant Person.” “If You Think You Know Everything, You’ll Never Learn Anything,”

[@d4vidh4xor]

if this is actually ShannonQ where is her TARDIS mug?

[@zerotsubasa5499]

Joke from the future of 2024 They're using that Trump maths to calculate their crowd sizes

[@hyksos74]

I think Bart Ehrman asks questions like that to his class on the first day - but then he's teaching bible studies

[@Paulogia]

do you have a source for that, because it sounds off... Bart seems very open to students and colleagues maintaining their faith. He himself says that it wasn't his biblical studies that made him agnostic.

[@tracykermode]

I have to correct @ 17:10, it's a DILATION AND CURRETTAGE, not dust and clean. And the paper Rachel was looking at is referring to having the procedure done AFTER a termination. Removing the retained products of conception, NOT the termination itself.

[@KaiHenningsen]

There's no free speech for students in the classroom. For that matter, it is limited even for the professor. And I'm sure Ken also accepts limits of free speech for the visitors in his museum - he wouldn't want to have, say, some Jehova's Witnesses trying to convert people in there. (For that matter, indigenous culture parallels the crucifixion? Might that student be a Mormon?) 15:30 ... so that "bullied girl" is actually bullying the class. Reminds me of the athlete crying about trans athletes because they once lost against one of those, completely ignoring the fact that they won against them several times. Those trans athletes are so overpowered in those sports! Their side lies. Systematically. Not all of them, but certainly all the loud ones. (I hear *Christian* professors sometimes get away with those antics. Can you say "double standard"? Can't say if it's true.)

[@dashlamb9318]

I'm now a "believer" just from hearing about this "roe boat." For years there was a "Noah's Ark" in St. Louis. It was a "replica" of Noah's Ark" located at the intersection of I 70 and Hwy 94 overlooking the Missouri River. It was notable as one of the worst restaurant until they finally razed it and built a Hotel a few years back. Like this monstrosity in Tenn, the novelty wears off after a few decades.

[@LucentDragoon]

"I don't think... any evolution believing, history believing Christian has walked through the doors of that park and thought 'You know what, that makes sense'" *sigh* I really wish that were true. My dad might not have believed in evolution (specifically "macro evolution") but prior to listening to the drivel of AiG he would have at least agreed that the Earth wasn't 6000 years old. But after visiting the Ark Encounter he was willing to at least consider a young Earth. In every conversation we've had since about Christianity (around that same time I finally came to the conclusion that I'm an agnostic atheist) he has used every common dodge and referenced multiple apologists I've heard refuted on this and other KZbin channels. He even said that I'm "too smart for my own good" for questioning Christianity, to which I responded rather pettily "Well, that's God's fault, isn't it?" I'm extremely grateful to Paulogia and others for helping me come to terms with my own position on the matter, but I despair at ever getting my own father to understand how terrible his own position is.

[@steven9163]

Believe it or not, my freshman Biology professor absolutely did have us raise our hands and did almost to the letter what Ken Ham reported. Almost TO THE LETTER! It was really messed up. I ended up failing the class, mostly because I was immature and irresponsible at the time, but that absolutely played a role in my failure. It also played a role in my subsequent return to a Biomedical Science major in college when I would reattempt it six years later. So yes, this really DOES happen.

[@awakeningtovacuity8372]

The thing that makes Ken Ham dangerous is that he is so much less slimy than most preachers. He's likable. Hell, I'm anti theism, and I like him. Look at preachers like Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Ted Haggard, or anyone named Hovind. Even if you're christian, you hate them, but Ham is different, even thought he's obviously wrong about everything, you still kinda look for a reason to give him a break. I gotta admit though, there's nothing likable about PhD Giggles.

[@Uzicide]

I literally laughed and clapped at the RJ cameo!

[@ellesontlabete2669]

cracks me up seeing a christian complain about shit like this when one of their kind got me thrown out of PCC for being a trans woman. I actually WANTED to be there and learn and NEVER disrupted or delayed any classes trying to push any agenda. i did occasionally complain about being physically attacked or threatened but thats not as bad as having my bronze age mythology challenged.🙄

[@moosepocalypse6500]

Oh ja, Ken Ham's incredible arguments are so compelling I am now Christian... Pfft sorri can't say it with a straight face 😅 As for whether a geneticist gets a degree and is an honest or good geneticist... Like my mamma says, SOMEONE had to be last in their class. 😜

[@francesottewill2538]

My youngest child is ASD never had an abortion, have 2 boys. My youngest was a week early (not premature). Whats the best way to teach an Autistic child? Depends on the child!

[@ceicli]

I can somewhat understand why someone turns to religion but why anyone would become Christian in Hams way is just strange! And his delusion is humongous! That interrupting girl seems to not want any education, so why was she there? Freedom of speech doesn't mean that bad behavior is ok. Many sadly ignore that! AiG always talks like "the others" actually think and behave like AiG think they do! It's just so bad and uncurious!

[@taiwanisacountry]

Around the 12min mark. I would just like to input I understand the situation that the topic is in. And that I agree 100% with what Shanon said, that this woman in Canada will not face any criminal charges or lose of freedoms because of her use of free speech. I would just like to take a moment to say that, she is lucky to be in that situation. I am a China major, finishing my thesis now. And I can speech from experience that, that is not always the case, even in Canada. There are examples of ethnic Chinese students talking back at Chinese exchange students, when they interrupt the class to spread their CCP propaganda, and then their families inside of the PRC gets legal problems, or themselves when they visit their family in the PRC.

[@insanetester1015]

30 minutes apologizing for a dishonest christian student being offended. They should be offended. They are promoting immorality. They are an ideology of hatred. Even admitting that what she said was off-topic and false, the biggest problem was being certain that she wasn't offended. The "teachers" should have expelled her from the classroom. But, no, they were too harsh in the way they talk to her, the poor thing. What a waste of time.

[@ladystein2246]

I tried asking Christians about if God loves us, then why r kids being tortured every day? They all say it’s “God’s Will”, or “they r suffering, because a family member sinned in the passed”. God is an idea. Not a reality.

[@thelogician9879]

"Disgruntled father" is some of the funniest Christian slander-propaganda I have ever heard! Why do you hate being a father so much, you rotten atheist! ROFL...

[@SirFailsalot91]

Sooo, does that student really always play "Six Degrees of Jesus Christ" when she's meant to be learning? I didn't know that I can go on random tangents in class and play the "Muh religious oppreshun!" when the teacher/professor tells me to stop disrupting them.

[@Saitaina]

I'm one of those people who are unable to stop myself from spouting random things I know as they relate to a conversation (yes, I am aware it's fucking annoying)...but even I can't follow her train of logic to how autism and abortion correlate even with it explained. (My random thought train in the conversation at hand would probably be more related to relating my experiences AS an autistic person how how education failed or succeeded with me and others I know and the difference between reaching a high functioning autistic vs a lower functioning and effective tools I found as a nanny - which are not many as autistic children weren't my specialty, ADHD ones were, abortion wasn't even near that thought process and I have heard the stat -randomly somewhere online).

[@beth-rg8bm]

I'm for listing the collages...as an employer it gives me a list of people....NOT TO HIRE! In the long run it will save me money and headaches!

[@foe2fallacies]

Is it my audio, or are your microphones on pendulums? Or is this gonna be about Doppler effect. And I agree with the group identifying the two of you as Big Deals. It is a function of the great work you do.