Roleplaying Sex Pest Makes CHILD Characters And Gets Personal

[@APerson-ws4cw]

The people in this story need to grow a backbone, this guy should've been curbed the MOMENT his child character showed up.

[@DisneyChar]

Agreed, so many stories of SA/R/P fantasies that are met with tepid responses

[@cvernon5256]

I've seen rare few good child characters but I feel that it's a bad idea, especially if everyone else is playing as an adult. Play according to the nature of the campaign, you know? And I'd shoot down any of the bull crap about sneaking in characters. But everything else about trying to blackmail or antagonize everyone else's characters is terrible. This person's a great example of a terrible person.

[@dead_vibes]

Id rather have no story then listen to these spineless dm's. No dnd is better than bad dnd

[@LjIzTheCrew]

Wow it's kinda surreal seeing something you were involved in being read out, I was one of the people in this, specifically I was Jazz age

[@asioca1992]

Imagine complaining about not being able to molest someone else's character (after they made it clear that doing so wasn't cool) and then trying to write up a D&D horror story to paint them as the bad guy. Were they playing with Eric Cartman?

[@nickbrothwood1238]

Sounds like it.

[@andrewdesalvatore7262]

Quoteish from an actual episode (iirc it was the one where Terrorists tried to nuke/destroy ImaginationLand) "Suck my bawls KYLE! theyre soooo dry" "No! Fuck you Cartman" "I'mma imagine an ImaginaryKyle who WILL suck my bawls" "ok....? but that's not ME" "HEY EVERYBODY, KYLE LOVES SUCKIN', look at'm go!"

[@chadsmith8966]

Okay, who let the Slaaneshi cultist into our game… again. This should be a museum level study piece for future generations as to why the Social Contract Philosophy is so important. If a player or DM is being dingus and not realizing they’re crossing a boundary they should be talked to given a fair warning. However, when someone comes into the game with the intent to suck the fun out and make everyone fifty shades of uncomfortable. Don’t care who they are, they get the boot. Seriously, players shouldn’t have to build their PC’s in such a way to prevent them from getting violated by another player’s character.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Hello, I'm the op from the Reddit story. To add a couple of updates the games after kicking him have gone very well, and that guy has taken to extreme cyber stalking of the rest of the group and tried to gaslight one of my best friends including use of the classic abuser 101 line of "I hope he gets help" I also didn't do a very good job of timelining the events, the red flags were never sudden or all at once like my post suggests since I sort of rush wrote it. But really the big thing is we sort of did each notice different red flags but because of him being terminally online we never really had a safe way of communicating it in the servers. We should have just messaged after but it always seemed like other people in the group liked the guy (or at least acted like they did to avoid drama). That guy was a classic charismatic abuser who knew a lot about manipulating the group dynamics of introverted nerds. This doesn't excuse me not forcing the situation sooner. It going on that long is absolutely my fault, I should have forced the conversation after the first red flags regardless of what the group consensus seemed to be. Second update, the Jazz Age game will be continuing soon thankfully. One of our first big goals appearntly will be hunting down TG's Giovanni for the dangerous group secrets he has. Very excited to return to my character without fear of having a guy chain homophobic slurs at me

[@keshagriffin3375]

I think you did a good job

[@unluckyone1655]

I think overall you did good, but dealing with a narcissist who is experienced with being manipulative is tricky no matter what, let alone a group of nerds who are non confrontational. Best you can do is just block them, don't engage. You can level zinger after zinger, but they will always insist on getting the last word forcing you into an endless loop of you suck, haha no you suck you emotional weakling lolz. They live for that shit, seriously, you are just feeding them the attention they want while you exhaust yourself trying to get back at them

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

As long as you learned from it, that's what matters.

[@alexinfinite7142]

Don't blame yourself. These scum bags walk into games with a plan and strategy in mind. They're predators looking to snare a target. Most people looking to play a game have genuine intentions. These guys do not

[@bodypiercingbytom]

You need a player in your group who says, "Hey, lemme talk to you in private for a minute...", but when they come back, they're alone.

[@NihilisticWhim]

Sadly, this kind of concept in VtM will eventually get seen. As an oldhead VtM ST I've seen just over a handful of "child-scapade" characters that just are skin crawlingly bad. I just have personally banned child vampires from my games because I have generally seen it go horribly, horribly wrong.

[@tonydanatop4912]

Sad part is if played decently the inability to grow up or move on from a certain point in ones life is great drama. Like a really blunt metaphor for traumatic experience.

[@unluckyone1655]

Yeah, in concept, it's an interesting character idea. But too many people just go ... wierd with it without any hint on nuance.

[@keshagriffin3375]

What’s a Child-Scapade?

[@MarquisLeary34]

One of my best characters was a embraced-as-adolescent Tremere, but you can bet your ass I didn't make it a sexual concept in the least.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@tonydanatop4912 Mhm. I mean... if you want an example of this conflict done well, just look at Baby Doll from Batman: the Animated Series. Despite being an adult, she was stuck in the body of a child thanks to her medical condition. Once her show was cancelled, she couldn’t act anymore because thanks to the way she looked, she couldn’t play more mature roles. She found it better to play make believe and pretend that she’s Baby Doll, because the reality of her life is too painful for her to bear. It’s a concept that easily could apply to a vampire. Despite maturing mentally, they’re trapped as a kid. Forced to watch those close to them grow up and leave them behind, unable to grow with them. Their loved ones will grow old and die, and they can’t do a thing about it. Because guess what? They’re just a “kid”.

[@4aw50fGold]

His addition has Created a New Class of ‘That’s “The” Guy’.

[@chelonianmobile]

See, I've written stories with monster children who lure in creeps to eat before, but it never got to the point of the child behaving sexually in any way, just being there and pretending to be vulnerable until someone with ill intent came within bite range, and no one was FORCED to sit through it the way other players at an RPG table would be.

[@windyface9383]

Our tabletop RPG club in school had a creep! I had the bad luck of picking the same nickname as his real name for my v:tm Malkavian character since I didn't know him, he played this wannabe-smooth toreador called the gentleman and I think got slightly fixated on my videogame nerd who thought she was in the most realistic and amazing VR experience ever. Thankfully she had all the sexuality of a doorknob and avoided any in-game shennanigans, but our gentleman went on to hit on every single girl in the club, including those in very public comitted relationships. I knew this after he had roses delivered to several of us and we started comparing notes, and my opinion of him went from "friendly guy who means well but I'm sorry I'm not attracted to him" to "Oh this guy's actually a creep". His reputation took a nosedive after that, and the nice guy facade slipped right off. I subsequently came out as gay, but that's unrelated. We DID use it to piss him off once when one of the other girls became annoyed at his shennanigans, though. I don't think he liked me much after that.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Also just realized how much of a bullet I dodged by denying him in the werewolf game given how some of those game themes get used by wierdos.

[@themightypen1530]

I once played in an online DnD 3.5e game where if you submitted a character that was less than 18 years old (or the proper demihuman equivalent) they would report your IP to the FBI. I liked that game, it was well run.

[@WolfHreda]

Watching your gameplay I'd forgotten how janky Bloodrayne could be. Fun times.

[@Thedragonlover95]

At this point, someone's gonna have to make a complamation of all the moments these kitties show up

[@mynameisntpatrick1476]

DnD Doge is the Maury of DnD stories. "You ever have to deal with a sex pest? Let me know!"

[@DnDDoge]

The lie detector determined that that is not a lie

[@ivancybran]

I genuinely want to hear the other guys view of what happened, we don't often get to see two sides of a story.

[@emanymton713]

Not that it’s necessarily likely to ever come up again, but, Tzimisce is pronounced Zim-eat-see.

[@ryanrizzo4869]

Zee-meesh-e Zee-meesh Shaw-mee-see Za-meesh I've heard it said every way. The Revised LARP books gave (Ze-meesh-e) as it's actual pronunciation.

[@grimjudgment6527]

@@ryanrizzo4869 If you're talking about the Mind's eye books, keep in mind that they're not White wolf (Which is now a subsidiary of Paradox) but instead made by By Night Studios, while a majority of White Wolf published works use the Zim-eat-see pronunciation. However, I prefer to look at this situation humorously because it's a funny idea that Tzimisce are so foreign and alien that nobody even knows how to pronounce their name and that the clan does it on purpose just to make it harder to study them because kindred scholars tend to be pedantic enough where if two of them disagree on the pronunciation that they'd waste centuries trying to one up each other and prove themselves superior instead of getting any actual work done. (Which reminds me of Nosferatu making people think that SchrekNet is still around, except it's an underground movement using TOR now, just to fuck with people.)

[@emanymton713]

@@ryanrizzo4869 Zim-eat-see comes direct from the creator. I take that over all other “ sources” .

[@Densoro]

God, the idea of the dice deciding whether you get R'd or not.../shudders I can't seem to roll higher than a 5 on a d20. I know how OP feels. I've also experienced some of that shit irl, so when a pushy GM 1) couldn't accept that I don't like D&D and kept trying to convince me to join, and 2) said that mind flayers R their victims psychologically, I just checked tf out and stopped responding.

[@StarBlazerM31]

FINALLY! A GM who believes in retconning!!!

[@iank472]

So pulling a weapon (never mind actually attacking someone) in Elysium, never mind in the presence of the Prince of a city is an instant death sentence. It's literally the only way the brutal, violent society of Vampire the Masquerade can function without descending into chaos.

[@JustSomeDude42]

Neat, I don’t delve into VtM so it’s always fun hearing lore and other tidbits.

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

It’s lucky we’re raining cats and dogs in here

[@Zeed_316]

So, who wants to see a tabletop horror story youtuber tear into that guy's version of the story? I personally want Den of the Drake to do it. Just to watch him eat that guy alive.

[@indumatipngtuber2790]

I rate This That Guy 6 Fedoras out of 5.

[@DnDDoge]

That's too many fedoras!

[@Kastila]

@@DnDDoge Drop all the fedoras on him, from orbit. it's the only way to be sure.

[@easiestcc6451]

Is that a Projared reference?

[@SetzerII]

I miss the days when fedoras were acceptable, if not cool. Indiana Jones must be raging at neckbeards.

[@TheOvervoid]

"How dare other player rp as a sexual character!?! I'M the only one that can do this AND DO IT RIGHT!!" One day I'll have a story to share hopefully. Just got to wait for life (and myself tbh) to not block me from finding a group and playing.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

The funny thing was my guy wasn't even a sexual character, he pretended to be when in public, basically pretended to be toreador stereotypes to keep his plots from being seen

[@bodypiercingbytom]

These things seem to happen REPEATEDLY on line. I don't play on line, for the simple reason that I don't know for sure who I'm playing with. My preference is at a table within arms length of my players, so if someone says or does anything like "that guy", my Mage Hand can reach them. It's always easier to block someone from physical game space than a server, lol. There are serious consequences for sneaking into someone's house after they've been run off; sneaking onto a server, not so much. 😊

[@michelcosta76]

Sleepy cat, so cute.

[@RiversEagle_]

I've never played VtM but I had one problem player that I learned had been a problem player in a VtM game before joining my DnD game. He played this emaciated young Black thrall character with an NPC Boyfriend who was the vampire that turned his PC. It was really creepy as the relationship dynamic was clearly predatory with the NPC boyfriend calling the young thrall his "pet" and it made everyone at the table uncomfortable. The VtM game fizzled out and problem player joined my DnD game forst and a few weeks later invited another player from that VtM game. Problem player has since been kicked and blocked while the guy he invited to the game still plays in my campaigns.

[@thephantomwolf1002]

Oh wow, earliest I've gotten here

[@TheMeteoDragoon]

Same

[@dead_vibes]

I hope to god I never lose my spine like some of these DM's.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Hello doge; nice to meet you so soon and hello Lucky. Story 1: Why? Just... why? Oh to be a therapist as some of these sessions. That Guy was far more than a sick weirdo. Glad to see Alice is fitting in with your growing clowder.

[@flexiblenerd]

Ooh, Bloodrayne. Never heard of Terminal Cut, though. :o

[@l0stndamned]

Fairly recent on steam

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Oh hey Bloodrayne.

[@MarquisLeary34]

Someone crossing the line about not using sexual assault as an element with a player who had a previous trauma with it would get someone punched, then forcibly ejected in our group.....

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

I won't lie, I would be interested in hearing the other guys version since we are told he is going to write one. Just out of curiosity.

[@DnDDoge]

I'll be on the look out

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

@@DnDDoge thank you

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Honestly I kind of wanna see what he has to say about me too out of morbid curiosity and for a good laugh.

[@unluckyone1655]

Well, let's hear his tale of woe. Willing to bet he paints himself as this genius and everyone else has a problem w it. Idk, these two sided stories are often super conflicted.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

@@unluckyone1655 he probably will try to paint himself as a genius writer. He always thought of himself as such and bragged about "being in the industry" despite there being zero proof of that and him being incapable of writing backstories. Between sessions he would brag heavily about how well his characters are set up like it was a competition, like we are a bunch of 20 something's playing make believe you're flexing for nothing

[@ashuradragosani5960]

I have played a child vampire in VtM once. I bought high blood rank, forget what it's called, it has been a long time. But, it wasn't anything sexual. Part of the game was getting enough guards to protect herself from being diablorized and just survive while helping and looking over the homeless. She went after the scumbags for sustenance, using her childhood status to lure them into false senses of superiority. She was never really interested in all the vampire drama though. The moment that PC came and said the OP made a character so I could not molest it. I would have told him its his PC to play HIS way. If that is the biggest problem you are having then this game is not for you. But more likely with the bad attitude, would have kicked, banned and or reported his ass long before.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

Thanks 4 all the hard work.

[@DnDDoge]

Welcome!

[@wagz781]

fun fact about getting domed in VTM. If it's a headshot, you instantly die if it drops you to torpor. Barring being finished off via having your head crushed or heart ripped out, anything other than a headshot will torpor you. I guarantee "That Guy" was aiming for a 1 shot kill.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

As far as we were aware headshots from pistols just upgrade the damage type to lethal, and a bar full of lethal for vamps still just goes to torpor. I know shotguns and whatnot normally get upgraded via house rules to do decapitation effect in those instances though. But absolutely he was trying to one shot me and if I didn't have fortitude from the Diablerie and activated my serpentis armor thing my guy would have been fully ashed.

[@wagz781]

@@redghost-uy7hq anything that can cause trauma brutal enough to act as sufficient decapitation acts as a one shot kill. It's not a house rule cause it's stated in the fluff. At least for what I can find of v20. But yeah, dude was a dick.

[@LjIzTheCrew]

@@redghost-uy7hq I wouldn't have allowed it to kill you, in hindsight I shouldn't have allowed it at all, but we all learn from our mistakes

[@redghost-uy7hq]

@@wagz781 only larger caliber stuff counts for sufficient for decapitation with one shot at our tables that means handguns typically can't pull that off unless you're strapped with a 50 cal loaded with hollow points. He was carrying like a 32 or 38. Special. Nobody is really decapitating a guy with one of those. But yeah he was absolutely attempting to murder my character since he was gonna fire again with celerity before that got stopped.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

And the dude absolutely was a dick lol

[@coffeefox5703]

Yes. I never knew I wanted a doge reading stories until now. Dunno know why you don't have more views... your voice is good, gameplay to watch, and your a doge.

[@ChazMcRich1]

I love how this is just instaban red flag after instaban red flag

[@sharkjumpingwalrus6744]

Playing a child character, even if it a case of having ones age frozen by vampire magic, is going to be uncomfortable for anyone. If you add sexual themes into that, you basically get that one scene of Patrick Star going weewoo weewoo in a panicked voice. This is why aging up characters is preferred. I would certainly love to see how I could work characters like Remilia Scarlet and Flandre Scarlet to work in this role play setting. But they would be aged up to be 25 and 20 respectively so that people don't have to feel like their on an unaired episode of to catch a predator every time Remilia flirts with someone.

[@RayAkuma]

I could really hear the Thumbnail screaming in sweaty cellar-dweller in a pretend anime girl voice be like ,,bUt iM a cUtE AniME giRL..."

[@isabelageekarts8947]

When i was a child on DA(Deviantart) , i had a friend who roleplayed with me, but he was... sexual.... i don't recall his entire name but the first part was Sephiroth i think.... i had a character of a vampire like little girl and later he was roleplaying sex . I was so shocked but i was affraid to be rude, im not sure if he knew i was underage but his account was deleted a few times but always came back to do roleplay until he couldn't came back anymore, never told anyone about it.... even my parents.

[@Jerepasaurus]

Some helpful pronunciation corrections: Camarilla (Cah-ma-REE-yah) Tzimisce (Zim-EE-she) Vitae (Vit-ay/Vee-tay)

[@Ibrahim-gu6vd]

4:36 he's looking straight into my soul

[@Svartalf14]

That Guy is the kind of person with no self awareness, that is going to write AITA posts when he obviousl is to anybody but himself

[@ThePariahDark]

AFAIK Tzimisce is spoken as Tzeeh-mee-see or tzuh-MEE-see, just some trivia. I also think vampires are not allowed to turn children, because they cannot fool mortals as well as adults. Ann Rice used that plot point in her version of vampires too, so if I had been the GM I would have told them "not happening" right away.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

There's a flaw in many of the books for like 4 points that means you were turned as a child. The Camarilla really hates when it's done though since it can lead to some really messed up vampires mentally speaking, and because it does somewhat disgust the ones with humanity. It still happens though, often in the act of trying to save one's own child from death or out of guilt for frenzying and draining a kid

[@thevoidcritter]

To be honest there is not a single person alive who can pronounce Tzimisce correctly

[@tenchraven]

First story, a VtM table with a creep. Huh, go figure. There are reasons I don't run it, play it, or get within 50 feet of Vampire or Mage. It brings out people who have mental health issues, and shouldn't be at any table. Many years ago, I worked at a shop, and it was so bad that we just didn't allow any WoD sessions in the store, period.

[@vortega472]

Ah Lucky - when I come back in the next life I want to be a well kept cat. That guy in this video is a creepy POS - Hopefully the group is done with him. After that story, a double dose of Lucky, and I believe Alice, is a good cleanse.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

We are thankfully done with him and because of him have created safety measures for if people are uncomfortable or notice any kind of red flag. Cats are very good

[@DoktorDaytha]

Mom, this Dog with a Witchhat talks about stupid, cringe and creepy people on the internet!

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

Imagine saying"you made your character impossible to m0lest" as if its a *flaw*

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Second big update: That Guy has stepped up his cyber stalking of group members considerably, tracking down alt accounts of different platforms with completely different names. It's actually getting worrisome now. Also it's very likely he isn't writing a story as he's apparently been shown both the reddit post and this video a while back. My guess is he wanted to write out something to make himself look like the tragic victim and then dox us and show it to anyone we tried to talk with about joining after, but us posting first makes that look heavily more sus than it already would have looked. If That Guy does make a post or something else big happens or comes from the stalking I'll make sure to make an update post

[@nekomancer47]

At this point, maybe it’d be worth it to start looking into taking legal action on his bitch ass? Idk if what he’s done so far could technically constitute a crime or something, especially since this is on the internet and so laws could be trickier depending on where you/he is from, but if he’s somehow now finding completely unrelated alt accounts of you all and keeps coming after you, that’s starting to look like harassment and cyber stalking. Would certainly be kicking things into a whole new gear, but if he wants to keep playin like this for months on end, he’s got somethin comin. Hope things go okay for you and your friends. Bastards like this are a pain in the neck (heh, vampires) just having to deal with them in the moment; can’t imagine having to suffer through months on end of having him harass you, too.

[@l0stndamned]

The DMs in this story were far too permissive. A load of this drama could have been avoided if they'd been willing to put their foot down Cool to see BloodRayne again.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

I know. I don't understand why GM’s are so permissive of crap like this.

[@LjIzTheCrew]

@@Lobsterwithinternet for my part in this I just don't like conflict and try to avoid it at all times, but I realize that was part of the problem and am working on it

[@mondenkindqueen]

Wow, I got here quick.

[@HelloGrimm]

Did the THAT GUY actually write his story? I'd love to see the comments, haha.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Unfortunately it seems he has not. Supposedly he's even seen the post so either he takes forever to write something or he just chose not too.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Ill be the first to update in these comments with a link if he posts

[@StripedTheProtector]

@@redghost-uy7hq *to

[@paulhesketh4289]

I really want to see TG's story now!

[@symantares9171]

I did have a player who would qualify as a "sex-pest" but she was more funny than problematic

[@Jermbot15]

It's ironic that this gaming group has a player sucking all its fun out. In all seriousness. The moment you're building your character around trying to stop another player from fucking up your game, that player needs to be dealt with.

[@marooniballooni03759]

I think this guy is gonna face consequences ooc soon, wether he wants to or not.

[@fremontstaples1752]

Too sweet kitties. And that guy is so a problem

[@katywrathgoddess]

really nice video mate! ^_^

[@skeyedrake5929]

Thumbnail is Kurumu kurono from rosario vampire. I want to think she's role-playing as a vampire to get in Tsukune's pants

[@SinnerChrono]

Ive never heard tzimsce pronounced like that 😂. Its zy-meat-ze.

[@isabellamorris7902]

I was gonna be like "wait, why the fuck did you let that pattern continue as long as it did across multiple games" but then OP revealed their personal history and holy shit, how did it take that long for the other players and GM to kick him or hard stop the hypersexual concepts??

[@Sinclairelim]

I see the like & subscribe kitten, I like and subscribe.

[@tenshyklonik]

Only one thing that i don´t know if anyone tells you already (If someone do, please excuse me, I´m not triying to be the "I dO iT fIrSt"), when Op where telling that he don´t let TG to a Werewolf game so TG can´t use his concept of a Black Fury, you say Furry, so maybe is because you don´t know that "Black Fury" is a Werewolf clan of only Werewolf females, that fight with really cool tricks and are really interesting because normally they participate in anti machism webs, groups and similar things, maybe they can be a little hostile with male partners but they are fun to play and great to have around in a group, again, sorry if someone already told you this.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

Yeah they can be a pretty cool tribe when used properly. TG was not gonna use them properly. Not in the slightest.

[@Dicyroller]

The second story is just someone saying DM do you see me, DM do you hear me.,,

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

EW. NO. WHY.

[@DallasBrownridge]

Morning doge!!!! :D

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Is that Kurumu or Remelia Scarlet in the thumbnail?

[@saphirathewitchoftheditch3399]

It's Kurumu

[@keshagriffin3375]

Remi has either light indigo hair or purplish blue hair

[@marybdrake1472]

This was kind of a frog in the pot scenario. And this "that guy" was extra in the narcisistic category.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

It very much was a very slow boil, and I feel he was slowly trying to groom the group into being ok with his wierd fetish shit. Honestly in retrospect me being the most visibly against it is probably the big reason he started hating me. That doesn't free me from blame, it should have never boiled that far no matter what methods or charisma shit he used. Near the end I slowly started putting everything together but still didn't fully say anything until it became very personal and I saw the message with what he wanted to do to me despite knowing my negative experiences with sexual assault irl. That just pushed me over the edge into having to say something but it could have been avoided if we had just all talked to each other more.

[@marybdrake1472]

@@redghost-uy7hq Sometimes we just don't see what's right in front of us. And at the same time we can become paralyzed by not really knowing what to do in response. It sucks, but it happens.

[@zrswitch8434]

...I'm interested in hearing the other sides story now. After all: you got one side, you got the other, and then you got the truth.

[@werebuffalo]

Lucky has the cutest toe beans!!!!

[@blindguarddog8717]

Thank you Doge. You deserve a nice juicy 🍖

[@starofjustice1]

Sorry for being That Guy but the girl in the thumbnail's actually a succubus...

[@CrystalSanchez094]

i swear when i saw the title of the video and i knew it would so cringy

[@universalperson]

13:12 I'm sorry, why doesn't the DM claim the Prince perma-kills That Guys character in an incredibly humiliating fashion? It's what the character would do.

[@redghost-uy7hq]

I almost tried to argue that but I felt people would just see me as butthurt mega mad or something

[@universalperson]

@@redghost-uy7hq well you shouldn't have needed to make that argument in the first place. DM should have gone full blown "actions have consequences" right there.

[@evilauthor9953]

There's a That Guy in my game that is absolutely a sex pest. I was in two campaigns with him. A lot of overlap between the two groups. One DM removed him already, the other made a ruling that he'd be allowed to finish the campaign since we're so close to the end, but wouldn't be invited back. Not super happy about the ruling, but I trust the DM's judgment and he did promise to closely monitor our That Guy's behavior after I spoke up about it.

[@Wolvenwargmusic]

So I know this comment comes late, but I swear I want to punch people that think charm spells equal a free ticket to have someone do whatever. I implore all DMs/GMs/etc to please please PLEASE read the actual description of the charm spell. Charm. does. not. equal. mind control!

[@momar678]

"I considered him a real friend". Turns out it's an online friend. Touch grass people.

[@albertinstan5090]

ok, i know there are so many worse problems BUT.... I hate people who provoke you and then use your reaction against you, especially because many people have a "don't go down to his level" mentality which basically means that you have to suffer without being able to respond and if you respond you are at fault because you replied

[@AlastorsNight]

I am in complete and utter disbelief that these people went through all of this and never confronted "That Guy" until the very end! Considering all the hoops they had to jump through to have their characters go un-molested and to "buffer" against him like, HOW! I understand there is giving someone a chance but holy crap some people are just way to forgiving. Even when I was a noobie GM this guy would have been kicked from my table and server for the child sex vampire alone, never mind all the in game PVP and pissing matches with other players.

[@LjIzTheCrew]

It's our fault for being so non confrontational and not stepping up till the end, we own our mistakes and have learned from them

[@jedjohnson9811]

In a narcissist mind they are never the problem and op was the scapegoat

[@joshuawiener5003]

I need to see that guy's horror story just for the cringe

[@thevoidcritter]

First story is why I pretty much never allow child characters whenever I run Vampire

[@le_script.7775]

What I found most annoying about That Guy, was that he would provoke the person then annoyingly point out how they're right, because you raged. I have dealt with that before, and it's specifically done to make you lose all sense of control. It's so mind-bogglingly infuriating for me personally, because you subconsciously do begin feeling like everyone is going to turn against you because you broke out and just the feeling of that person probably actually believing they are right or rather, forced their way into being right is what sends people over the edge... And then that low blow... Yeah, That Guy was a perfect example of an emotional manipulator. Also, if the OP is still there in this comment section... Why would you have to create a character specifically to block yourself from being molested? Shouldn't the DM not allow such actions in general?... I mean I get it, the setting was probably grim dark and such themes were allowed, but player agency over their characters is paramount. As a DM they are a de-facto GOD, who's main goal is to provide a good time for himself and the player majority. The DM should simply tell the player doing an action another player doesn't consent to "no" and end with that. No argument the offender could make can stand up to the fact that the receiving player doesn't consent to it.

[@treinadordeledian7540]

hi

[@RatedB1]

I think the OP was to blame letting the guy get away with that shit so long.

[@foxfloofhandy]

showmemyweapons

[@nekoman8560]

Pedo hunter sounds like an interesting character concept, but it looses its appeal the moment you start describing the details of their methods. (Just roll a performance check or whatever and say whether or not it succeeds, then cut to after)

[@thebritishgamer836]

Only a small side note, but OP should stop listing "saying he will write a story about us" as one of the bad things he did, when OP stated earlier that another player was "also a weirdo I'll write about later", and mentioned how he isn't like "the others I've written about". Obviously OP isn't the bad guy in this case, just pointing out a small bit of hypocrisy, just in my opinion

[@derajtheyuler7101]

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[@stevencavanagh7990]

Story one A Tzimisce DR really you didn't catch that one. the Body horror clan as a DR, that's on you. but I must admit I do want to read That guy's story out of curiosity. on how they justify their actions.

[@Oatmealism]

My commentary on this is, we have someone who is hastily writing a RPG Horror story because he heard the guy he's writing about is going to write a RPG Horror story about them. It's going to be a clearly biased story, and very one sided by nature of 'I need to defend my honor', but I have to say... if the OP of this story was so innocent, why did they decide to rush and write a RPG horror story of their own? Why defend themselves if they know they did nothing wrong. Dunno, seems kinda sus, kinda wanna see the other horror story to see how things compare.

[@spiffiermage0040]

That's a fair point, people tend to believe the first side of the story they hear so it could boil down into a he said she said on two different stories with a poisoned well and slander all around. As damning as this story is to That Guy, this could all be to blow smoke up our asses. Or it could be dead on the money, we'll have to wait and see.

[@asioca1992]

Considering the type of person THAT GUY was, if OP hadn't posted his story first, THAT GUY would've probably used his story to both garner sympathy and demonize OP and the group by sharing it to anyone who'd listen. Also, just because you did nothing wrong doesn't mean that you need to defend yourself, if that was the case then simply asking for a lawyer would imply that you did the crime that you were accused of, which isn't how things work.

[@Oatmealism]

@@asioca1992 Asking for professional assistance in matters regarding a system that is inherently predatory and is hard wired to convict whomever is pinned with the blame, is quite a stark difference than a he said she said on reddit over a D&D group. No, see you're already proving the inherent problem with this style of story. They heard someone is going to make a RPG horror story post about them, and then they go and make one of their own before the other party can so that they can do just that. I find it heavily suspicious that anyone would go out of their way to do that if they werent even partially guilty. Now, I never said that the OP of the post was guilty and demonizing the innocent party, I just said that this is one of those stories that is going to end up hotly debated over who is right and who is wrong, because both parties decided to take their drama and issues with each other to reddit and social media rather than be adults and work it out between them. Bottom line is, however, that we were not there, we did not see the events of this story unfold as they happened, and thusly so we cannot be 100% convinced who is right in the matter and can't really pass judgement on such regards for that exact reason.

[@drugmate9710]

@@Oatmealism "I find it heavily suspicious that anyone would go out of their way to do that if they werent even partially guilty." Why? Why is there always one of you people who just HAVE to be a contrarian? Is that like a fetish or something? "I was sexually assaulted by this guy and need a place to get a weight off my shoulder." "I don't know, you're portraying yourself as victim here which is kinda sus. You probably led him on."

[@Oatmealism]

@@drugmate9710 Never said that mate, infact I said that I find it suspicious that they rushed to head off the posting of the other horror story which is a behavior of a liar/cheat. I also did say I wanted to hear the other horror story to see how they compared and if it really did turn into 2 very 1 sided stories, or if they shared info but one was more 1 sided so we could tell a bit more about the situation.

[@bsseb2914]

This entire group needs to be deleted for allowing a child character like that.

[@FordPrefict42]

I realize that I am amongst a large group of people in the comment section, and many of you are socially awkward. We all congregation to play our fantasy games, and that opens us up to experiencing new people. I am not here to intimidate anyone. What sets me apart from the majority of the Doge listener is that I am loudmouthed, versed on many topics, and my shy phase has been gone for about 30 years. I am the guy who walks up to and strikes up a conversation with the tatted up guy with pink Liberty spikes. I am also the guy that enjoys gross out humor, like dead baby jokes. Why tell you all this?!? Because I want to assure you all that I am not here maliciously. However, you all need a friend like me. I am the guy that has no problem going over the top to creep out the creeps. I absolutely think that sexs with children is disgusting! You want to sexualize a child in our RPG?!? I hope that your mind is darker and more twisted than mine!?! The problem, as I see it, is that people like TG have the same mindset as a grapist. They gain satisfaction from controlling everything. I don't mind removing control from people like that. Thank you for allowing me to rant! Luckily, I also a have a pet cat and she brings me great Zen.

[@elwiwi4638]

What

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

@@elwiwi4638 I thinks it's That Guy.

[@FordPrefict42]

@@elwiwi4638 - Exactly what did I say that you didn't understand?

[@FordPrefict42]

@@theinquisitorisamage1653 - Sorry if my ideals don't align with the room. I guess that makes me the John Spartan here. You send a maniac to catch a maniac. I have not, am not, and never will be Politically Correct. I care about the feelings of my friends. When someone disturbs my friends, it disturbs me. We live in an age where most people have some form of social anxiety. They are scared that they might hurt someone's feelings. The problem with that statement is that it is always THEIR FEELINGS which the THAT GUYS want to protect. I don't mind hurting the feelings of someone who has no empathy. I hope that clarifies things a little more?!? If you still feel that I give off THAT GUY vibes, I don't know what else to tell you other than I really isn't going to effect my day one way or the other.

[@elwiwi4638]

@@FordPrefict42 Everything You just kinda said a lot of words

[@vampire9545]

Plot twist, the sex pest is op writing that story op said sex pest was writing

[@thomasferris1905]

The Second Story, the first red flag is playing vampire the Masquerade.

[@abbynormal2210]

Frankly, this is on everyone involved for letting someone play a lolicon predator repeatedly wtf

[@StarrChild.]

I will never understand how people can just accept sexualised child characters in their games. How is that not the last red flag before you kick him? I don't care if it's got a "cool story" with it, it's a fucking child. I honestly lose sympathy for people when they don't kick the problem out at that. You're just asking for trouble if you think allowing something like that is okay

[@HeadHunter-mv2ht]

Hey I am not a fan of horror stories and I came here just to mention that the character on the thumbnail is a succubus and not a vampire.

[@rynowatcher]

The fact op only wrote this because the other person was writing a horror story about them means there is another side to this story and the other person thinks op is in the wrong. The he said she said makes me take all this with a grain of salt and write it up to two people kept fighting over personal issues in game.