GMMK Pro Full Review - Everything You Need to Know in 13 Minutes

[@Romsicle]

UPDATE: Super typing compilation is up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWHGZmdoft6Merc Despite this keyboard being AMAZING for its price, it is FAR from perfect. This is a custom mechanical keyboard that dives between new users and enthusiasts, where it has all the features necessary but also has the lowest pricing through bulk production. There's a lot of things that Glorious should be doing better and cutting corners is not of them. Some enthusiasts and elitists of the keeb community might feel some type of way because of this keyboard - but it was something that was bound to happen eventually. I just hope people don't suddenly start calling themselves EXPERT keyboard builders with this ONE board. At least build more than 1 keyboard variant before you give yourself that distinction :) As a reviewer of the people, if you want a good quality keyboard and you're not an enthusiast, you're good to go with this one.

[@xk4l1br3]

Hey man great video! Do you have a link to where you picked up those Zeal stabs? I wanna make sure I get the right sizes... im noob

[@weefs_]

This video is definitely the best video i’ve seen so far, but i thought it was 100usd?

[@Romsicle]

@@weefs_ You need to read the fine print. $100 is the refundable reservation price. You need to pay another 70 to complete the purchase. Check my configurator video and you'll see.

[@Romsicle]

@@xk4l1br3 Description, mate.

[@cleverestx]

@@Romsicle The description link no longer works for the Stabs...anywhere else you recommend?

[@TechGuy42ilm]

Never will pay 2 grand for a kb and this will fit my needs very well

[@Donbros]

"7.5k tgr jane feels underrated and cries in corner"

[@nerdalert545]

It's still overpriced.

[@Tamarin1]

I'm getting the gmmk pro so I'm glad to find a great review, your extremely underrated and better than some other youtubers that are more popular than you. Keep up the great work!

[@gretajlin]

Worth the wait for your thoughts on this. Even though I’m a total beginner I can’t help but listen to your “enthusiast” cons... And I really can’t believe the knob isn’t programmable! But frankly I love the look of this board and think I’ll be happy

[@rks5457]

It is programmable. The direction is just normal. Like every other knob in the world, clockwise means "increase". If you are used to a car or anything with a knob like a stereo, stove etc. etc. the clockwise is "higher" and the counterclockwise is "lower"

[@tkatot]

You don't need to disassemble the keyboard to flash QMK, just hold spacebar+b when plugging the cable and it will go into flashing mode, just remember to set a reset button in QMK or you would need to disassemble it.

[@elo_888]

the best review of the GMMK pro! You compared to luxury and what to look for. Thanks bro!

[@MarbsMusic]

Added the Flex kit to mine and it made a huge difference on flex and the new foam deepened the sound a little as well.

[@or1on89]

I filed the stab holes in my brass plate. It is very easy if you use flat files with "diamond" surface, like the ones used for model building: they're cheap and effective. In 15 minutes of work Durocks v2 were fitting perfectly and the plate looks like new, I got really smooth and clean edges! I think that working on the small qwirks can make this keyboard even worthier then the price you pay for it. It's a great DIY platform!

[@rks5457]

The knob direction shouldn't be an issue at all for most people. It's like every other knob in the history of control knobs in that the clockwise motion means increase and counterclockwise means decrease. Think of the volume knob on the gmmk pro as a typical control knob found in thousands of types of stereos ever made where clockwise is up, digital audio workstations and editing software where the knob going clockwise means high or more etc. etc. It makes sense.

[@Romsicle]

The issue isn't the direction. It's the lack of customizability from the get-go. I've gotten used to it, but this is not a good look

[@rks5457]

@@Romsicle so it doesn't work with QMK? If you can code or copy paste, you should be able to a lot of customizations. Gmmk pro blocks these for example? docs.splitkb.com/hc/en-us/articles/360010513760-How-can-I-use-a-rotary-encoder-

[@rks5457]

@@Romsicle also, it seems with Via, you could program it to shift to change another element by clicking the knob button.

[@Romsicle]

@@rks5457 I believe if you write out the entire qmk code with this added in, it will probably work. But you're still losing out on RGB at the moment.

[@PapaShuffler]

Waitin for my "complete your purchase" email...😞😩

[@cheveyo2403]

i was in flex batch and got my mail a couple of days ago. its on its way now

[@PapaShuffler]

@@cheveyo2403 nice! How long did it take from when you first reserved? I just got in a few days ago, unfortunately.

[@cheveyo2403]

@@PapaShuffler i think around launch day. but I assume Many were waiting to rush in their order. so i didn't get in batch 1 but in flex batch. i Assume the wait time will be less now.

[@PapaShuffler]

@@cheveyo2403 thanks for the response! I'm sure you're right about it being less time now. I'm just excited. They just sent out my accessories so those will be staring at me making the anticipation worse 🤣😂 Enjoy your new board!

[@goat4260]

@@cheveyo2403 HOW WHATTT

[@TheCodyK]

will say this is my favorite review of this board as other kb reviewers give off a vibe that the felt like they only wanted to make the video to say something negative. very honest and informative video my dude gj!

[@faiqsyahbani]

Modding guide next pls! What's the optimal mod so GMMK pro sounds better than the stock

[@aspiziri]

From the video it sounds like the zeal stabs fit without any filing needed?

[@AlfonsoSprohnle]

This video is awesome, great work. Very happy i discovered this channel, subscribing right now!

[@PatrickRennie]

Great review dude! Looking forward to getting mine to play around with :)

[@cajun_canuck]

PR always stealing my comments. ;) 100%

[@TheErick211_]

which are the stabilizers that you use for replacing the originals?

[@NebulaKernel]

Will you be using different types of foam on the GMMK Pro? I would be interested to hear how and if it affects the overall sound.

[@Romsicle]

I might attempt to replace it with the aforementioned KBD D65 strips but I'll have to see how well they fit. Ps. shoutout Miku gang

[@essenceofsias]

Fantastic review. I wanted to add that I received my GMMK Pro yesterday, and my GOAT Stabs are far better sounding than all of the YT reviewers have shown. Perhaps they have changed their lubing process?

[@Romsicle]

Might just be luck of the draw considering how much lube they threw down there

[@bitburns192]

What width is the spacebar? Already ordered my GMMK Pro and want to order Zeal stabs to go in!

[@Romsicle]

Standard size 6.25U - it's a standard 75% layout

[@dreilacadin]

How do you have 12k subs bro? You're so underrated! This channel is a hidden gem! Such quality content! Keep it up!

[@100_mph]

I know nothing ab keyboards and such. So is it $170 then you need to buy the switches and keycaps and more right? so it'd be more like 250-300?

[@Romsicle]

Just switches and keycaps. And depending on your parts, that is correct. And it still cheaper than any groupbuy option on the market.

[@100_mph]

@@Romsicle I see. I have glorious products and this board looks so sick but can't bring myself to spend 300. I have a annepro 2 for $60 on Newegg lol

[@ericqhochuli6004]

Can we have some videos about modding this board?

[@Romsicle]

There's not that many mods possible for the board that I can think of - maybe replacing the gasket strips and painting the housing, but that's it.

[@Sigisss]

Nice review 😁 I have a question... For you Gmmk pro or id80V2 ? Same price

[@alemdevp2048]

When recommendation is faster than notification

[@andreielekes]

What size of the "Zeal stabilisers" should I buy for the GMMK pro?

[@Romsicle]

4x 2U, 1x 6.25U That's the standard for all keyboards.

[@syrten]

The only problem that i have had with C3 is that they are either no consistent on the diameter of the stem and the stem pops off when you take the keycap out. I dont know if this is a problem of pbt notion from novelkeys or the stem itself. Brought 2 pairs and every pair has a similar problem.

[@pranavbarla4635]

Great review! I was wondering whether to go with this vs the new 65% gasket mounted element g67. Do you have any thoughts on that comparison? Thanks!!

[@Romsicle]

Other than the obviously differences in physical features, it really depends on your size preference: not to mention the price difference. GMMK Pro is better cost wise, but quality gasket mount wise the G67 would do better

[@pranavbarla4635]

@@Romsicle thank you for the quick response!

[@johnloisvinluan1223]

HI, may I know what are this keycaps are called? :)

[@YoKhoe]

GMK Dots

[@byungyoonchoi3744]

Thanks for the video! I was lost with my crudely factory lubed GMMK Pro stock stabs but thanks to this video I learned it's okay to wipe off them clean and re-lube by myself. Now I have a decent keyboard with some properly lubed stabs and I'm happy! =)

[@aamirm9703]

whats your most expansive board

[@IronKnok]

if I were to order some new stabs, what lenghts are required? 3 x 2u and 1 x 6.25 or 7 ?

[@Romsicle]

6.25 standard spacebar!

[@cleverestx]

Where can I get the ZealPC Stabs from? The link in the description no longer works. (not coming up on that site)

[@Romsicle]

You're supposed to navigate to the products page, but I updated it to be a direct link.

[@pamelaclark400]

anyone know of any replacement gasket's for the gmmk pro that are of proper thickness??

[@Romsicle]

Your best bet is to buy some gasket strips off Amazon and cut to size.

[@abhishekterala6218]

awesome content! love the vids!

[@sevagkrikorian]

i will likely get this to replace my crap logitech that started double registering keys. for me, the volume roller/bar is an essential feature so i'm considering this keyboad. i don't have much experience but i do know that i love the feel and sound of the romer-g keys that come with my logitech. which one of the GMMK Pro keys are closest to romer-g?

[@agikeebs1456]

There are no GMMK Pro keys, it’s a barebones kit so i comes with the case, pcb, plate, and stabs. You have to buy switches and keycaps separately. A similar switch to the Romer-g would be the mx brown, but it is a pretty bad switch, I would suggest watching some reviews on switches to see which one you like the most.

[@strawberrycakebaby]

what are the small foams for

[@petrhanzl8399]

guys do you know how is it with import to EU? How much more would I pay?

[@zaidkidwai7831]

I’m a pretty big fan of the knob on the top right. Why can’t factory lube ever be good? 😂

[@drago16]

Human precision > factory machines (for lubing at least).

[@Aeolous1]

if you've seen lubing tutorials, youll probably already figure out that they cant do that in the factory

[@ramontecson1705]

Awesome review! can't wait to get my hands on this soon :>>

[@TheFran457]

Hi there! I'm new to the hobby and waiting on my order to go through :) Just a quick question, would durock v2 screw in stabs work on the polycarbonate plate? Or would I have to do some grinding down?

[@Romsicle]

As mentioned in video, all stabs will work on the PC plate.

[@nanodrive]

Thank you for this video! Flex batch here, this confirms my suspicons regarding the stabilizers and I'm very glad I ordered my own Zeal stabs + krytox 205g0 in advance. This will be my first time lubing a keyboard! A couple of questions though: Is there anything beyond an aesthetic difference for the plates aside from the metal shaping on brass and aluminum or is there an acoustic difference in the sound? The one thing I didn't account for when I made my reservation is the gasket foam, would you recommend swapping the foam with an aftermarket replacement or do you think the foam included in the box is sufficient?

[@Romsicle]

Thanks! Brass is much stiffer than aluminum so switches will sound much thockier. You'll be able to hear this once I upload the sound comparison of a bunch of switches on all plates. I personally don't think it's sufficient so I would probably find some aftermarket foam. I know Taobao sells replacement strips for the KBD D65 so I might try that.

[@edwardingle1440]

what measurement for your Zeal stab spacebar did you use?

[@introbrilliantm7583]

Any gmmk pro review i've ever seen sounds kinda muted. u should remove the foam or get a thicker gasket imo

[@rks5457]

it's subjective. Some people like loud keyboards and some want more silent. They give you the option of both.

[@introbrilliantm7583]

@@rks5457 what's your point? this is a review of a product and it should be an objective matter since he wanted to show how far it ables to be customized. i get your "preference" stuff, but this video isn't about it

[@rks5457]

@@introbrilliantm7583 ah I see what you're saying. That you want to see a review without that stuff or add the gasket stickers.

[@introbrilliantm7583]

@@rks5457 yep. the more he shows how far the mod's available, the keener ( bad English lmao, forgive me) his audience will checking this board out

[@rks5457]

@@introbrilliantm7583 I gotcha and agree. Another thing I don't see a lot of is long term reviews. It's always testing a brand new board or switch out. Which is cool for uber enthusiasts who constantly buy shit and flip it and barely use a board as a daily driver and if it is, it's something that they use at work and is silent. One of the worst examples of this is reviewing switches that have a break in period and just reviewing em fresh and calling em shitty. Like nk cream switches sound pretty good when you break them in and then lube them after. Also, comparing switches by using one of each switch. The first thing I found out when I got into this hobby was the difference btw how one or a few switches sound vs an actual full typing test. It's obviously expensive and time consuming to do several full alpha key tests on these but it'd be a real world example.

[@BrianLee-it3py]

How do the zeal stabs fit in the plate? Does it fit perfectly?

[@Romsicle]

Pretty much perfect in terms of width, but since they're screw-in stabs, it won't really matter.

[@BrianLee-it3py]

@@Romsicle Great thanks for letting me know! I'm waiting for more lube before I can install them. Great Vid btw!❤

[@apbek851]

would you recommend the GMMK Pro over tofu65 hotswap?

[@Romsicle]

If your budget allow for it, sure. The tofu65 is still a solid board if built correctly.

[@iamthe7yearold587]

Did zeal stabs fit the brass plate?

[@Romsicle]

Yes. As mentioned in video, all stabs will work except for the durocks on metal plates.

[@lykelmacaranas6605]

I've been eyeing this keyboard as my end game keyboard lol! However, the Keychron Q1 is about to be released and I'm also considering that one. What do you think about the Q1? :)

[@Romsicle]

Looks about the same, not sure how the volume wheel option will work and hopefully gaskets will be better - waiting to get my review unit LOOL

[@lykelmacaranas6605]

@@Romsicle Eyy, Ima be waiting for your review of the q1 man. Maybe do some comparison between the two? :D

[@Romsicle]

@@lykelmacaranas6605 Will do!

[@theredrighthand1258]

I love keyboards, I have money but I don't like being ripped off, this keyboard hits the sweet spot for me.

[@optimistprime4783]

Great video, thank you for the tips. I've got mine on preorder so I thought I'd order some parts ahead of time while I wait. I'm still pretty new to custom keyboards and I checked out the stablisers you mentioned but upon looking at the options I'm not sure which ones I need to get in regards to the sizing, eg, there is a pack with 2 x 2u and 1 x 6.25u, and then many other variations. Any help would be massively appreciated ^_^

[@Romsicle]

Yes, all the longer keys use 2U stabilizers and the spacebar is a 6.25u. You want the 4x 2U and 1x 6.25U. For this keyboard you'll only need 3x 2U.

[@optimistprime4783]

@@Romsicle thank you very much ❤

[@thememeiseur8646]

hey romsicle thanks for review.

[@deViant14]

I can't wait to see what their competitors produce: Cooler Master, HyperX, someone new. The garage party needs to move to the rest of the house.

[@justanotherpxrson]

the opinions are so split on this that i want to get one to form my own opinions on it

[@rks5457]

That's always the key. I know buying a whole lot of stuff to test is cost prohibitive but if you're going off of other people's reviews you need to know when they're inserting their own opinion or telling you something that will actually bother or impress YOU. So much of this hobby is subjective but don't let anyone tell you what to like and not like.

[@justanotherpxrson]

@@rks5457 yea ive been in the hobby for a bit now. not a veteran by any means, but i would say im an enthusiast even though i dont own any super high end stuff. this is just the most controversial board ive seen. ever. well, at least that i can think of currently.

[@kiachiaki]

As always, great review! You had a view of a normal consumer and of a n enthusiast, which I appreciate! As being relatively new to this hobby, this looked like a good option, until I knew this does not send to Japan. Can’t be bothered to use proxy service. I hope they reconsider the policy.

[@niter43]

If they don't ship to Japan that most likely means they have official reseller/distributor there.

[@niter43]

Yep, that's it. List of official distributors in Japan can be found there: www.pcgamingrace.com/pages/the-glorious-distributors

[@dongjushin9343]

Is the space bar 6.25u or 7u I need to know son please.

[@ezlikespie61]

6.25

[@riekopo7638]

GMMK is confused. Gaskets are meant for flex not sound.

[@JustJaydz]

Mine won’t turn on

[@gavinnmytype]

thanks, very informative!!

[@tf2colossal]

might have to cop

[@ericqhochuli6004]

Great video.

[@Donbros]

This may sounds funny & a bit off topic, but I somehow want you to have different apparael style, haircut to go more in harmony with your voice XD when you talk in b-rolls I imagine very different of you haha (with hoodie, black glasses, hat) hm

[@digitallantern593]

I want one .. can't type for shit .. but want one anyways

[@DerisHopePilipinas]

very nice review! kept it real with all the flaws of the board and explained why it's good for its price. ultimately, more keyboard options for us is a win for the community. Can't wait for the sound test. praying you'll include alpaca v2 and GHP switches.

[@utubekebs]

Can't wait to get Satisfaction 75 R2

[@Romsicle]

R2 happened in Feb already LOL

[@Sapientiaa]

@@Romsicle how do I file the brass plate for larger stabs? Do I need some electric filer?

[@Romsicle]

@@Sapientiaa A regular metal filer should work should just fine but you just gotta it level the whole time.

[@utubekebs]

@@Romsicle Yeh I know. Q3 2021 is slated for shipping :)

[@vinciiiii5484]

new haircut when?

[@Romsicle]

LMFAO today 😭

[@sahanweerakoon2172]

GMfaKe Olivias on the GMMK Pro are all I'm rocking

[@imallfir3dup]

I wish it had a brass weight

[@spinkey4842]

hahaha he said D shaped stem

[@theelit3170]

sounds mehhhhh

[@canuck21]

$500 for a keyboard is insane IMO.

[@sirtoasty9293]

This is not borderline luxury...

[@Romsicle]

Baited

[@jussimattsen4583]

Great vid! Thanks!