Did Hype Ruin the Rolex Daytona? A Closer Look At The Daytona 126500LN

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Teddy Baldassarre

Teddy Baldassarre

Күн бұрын

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@SenerS10
@SenerS10 Ай бұрын
Good watch for 13.000 dollars. Not good for 30.000.
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 Ай бұрын
For $30K we can do without it. 😊
@kimcoulter806
@kimcoulter806 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@porscheoscar
@porscheoscar Ай бұрын
I wouldn't pay 13k for an unremarkable movement. This was a dime a dozen watch in the 80s. A $10k watch all day long for over a decade in the the 2000s. Then came social media colliding with crypto bros.😮
@troisk
@troisk 20 күн бұрын
​@@porscheoscar It's been a waitlist model since the 90s after the 16520 became popular. The SS Daytona is the one Rolex model that was already hard to get long before the 2017-2018 hype and 2022 bubble. It's been reselling over MSRP on the grey market for decades. Calling the movement unremarkable when the 4130 is widely recognized as the best auto chrono movement on the market shows you don't much about chronos. Go ahead and find another automatic chrono with better specs (free sprung balance, low amount of parts, vertical clutch, 72hr reserve, 100m WR in a 12mm thick case). It took the great Grand Seiko 5 years to create the SLGC001G, yet they could only manage to house it in a 43mm diameter & 15mm thick case. They even made it out of Titanium to contain the weight and it's still heavier than a SS Daytona... So yeah, SS Daytona grey pricing is nuts, and you may or may not like the design. Plenty of other interesting chronos available for more reasonable prices. But no need to invent that it's hype didn't exist 5 years ago, or that it's not an insanely well engineered watch.
@UrSSuL
@UrSSuL 18 күн бұрын
Can you define what would make a watch 10k ? Seriously now
@Ryan-fh9fh
@Ryan-fh9fh Ай бұрын
Hype has killed Rolex as a brand for me completely. The whole system of building a "relationship" with an AD to get a watch you want at msrp is frankly immoral. Even if this weren't the case the msrp prices are well above what the watches are actually worth. It feels like I am paying for marketing and flexing rather than a good watch.
@fhujf
@fhujf Ай бұрын
Yup, they have good watches but the brand just has too much baggage. I'll happily take a watch from a brand like Glashutte, just as well made as a Rolex, but only recognizable to watch nerds.
@chefsaliva5317
@chefsaliva5317 Ай бұрын
You watch your mouth. The hobby wouldn’t be where it is today if it wasn’t for Rolex and by extension the luxury industry.
@fishheadbreakroom
@fishheadbreakroom Ай бұрын
I moved on to JLC due to their contempt for regular clients. Rolex is not special. I dont want the same watch as the bartender.
@IamnotJokic
@IamnotJokic Ай бұрын
AP and Patek do the same thing but they explicitly tell you what you have to buy to get the watch you want eventually so they don’t give you false hope like Rolex does.
@nuffaction5464
@nuffaction5464 Ай бұрын
​@@chefsaliva5317 pillock
@thepathtoawe
@thepathtoawe Ай бұрын
Got my El Primero Daytona in 1996 for $4300. Walked into dealer, bought it on the spot. Stainless Steel / Black Face. It's the only watch I own. Have worn it every day since. Serviced only once, keeps perfect time. Still have box, receipts, and all paper work :)
@pauln0371
@pauln0371 Ай бұрын
That's because it's got a Zenith movement 👍👍👍
@sskumariyer
@sskumariyer Ай бұрын
lucky! cherish it, keep it forever and ever. you have perhaps the best one of them all.
@thepathtoawe
@thepathtoawe Ай бұрын
@@sskumariyer thank you... I never knew what I had until just a couple of years ago. Has zero scratches on it even though I have worn it every day. Still looks like the day I bought it.
@craftiestbrews5246
@craftiestbrews5246 Ай бұрын
Good story. It’s unfortunate the watch is difficult to get because the person that originally likes this watch may not relate to any of the other Rolex watches, being completely different in style.
@sskumariyer
@sskumariyer Ай бұрын
@@thepathtoawe as they say, some things are just meant to be. imo, Zenith's contribution to horology is way overlooked & underappreciated- this was THE first Rolex automatic chronograph (before the 'Zenith' Daytona- the Daytona line was manual wind like a Speedy.) The automatic movt. has played a big part in making the Daytona one of the most desired watches imo. Yours is a historically significant Daytona that set the precedent. The modern day Daytona is (mostly) looks- especially the ceramic bezel, etc. etc.
@GilbertRose-u1u
@GilbertRose-u1u Ай бұрын
Rolex, as brand is now dead to me! I have an old Submariner and have loved it. When I recently wanted to upgrade to a new GMT Master II, I couldn’t get one-at retail. My AD made me feel like a second class citizen, and I have more self respect than that. Yes, Rolex is now dead to me!
@mikegp5087
@mikegp5087 Ай бұрын
hmmm sounds more like youre dead to your Rolex AD....
@GilbertRose-u1u
@GilbertRose-u1u Ай бұрын
I guess guess I never existed! Their loss…Grand Seiko’s gain!
@0630430
@0630430 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. It's so weird to me that these Rolex AD sales reps treat buyers like shit. At the end of the day, these sales reps work in a retail store selling watches where demand outpaces supply. They don't actually need any real sales skills and they all make less money than the potential buyers who they treat poorly. If they're going to play that game of "i'm better than you" at least have a higher net worth than I do. Tudor and Grand Seiko is where I will be spending my money.
@johnm5131
@johnm5131 Ай бұрын
the ironic thing is that historically, you would buy a luxury timepiece to reward yourself and to feel good. Today, you have to crawl into an AD, and probably buy a few watches you never wanted, in order to get what you do want. When did we become subservient to a brand, and not the other way around? Where is the joy? The reward-curve is backwards.
@OttawaInHD
@OttawaInHD Ай бұрын
Lmao. They don’t care if you don’t like Rolex. Plenty of other people will take your place 😂
@cagataysucu439
@cagataysucu439 Ай бұрын
I loooove the Daytona. I specifically love the basic stainless steel Panda. But it's not a 35.000 dollar watch in any way, shape, or form. It's worth what it retails for. So yeah, resell market kinda ruined the watch.
@NCSheriff7
@NCSheriff7 Ай бұрын
I would buy it for 3k
@YanikCoen
@YanikCoen Ай бұрын
@@NCSheriff7exactly lol
@Doggo-frencton
@Doggo-frencton Ай бұрын
It’s nowhere near worth $15K, not sure where you’re getting that from. I’m being serious when I say $8K is probably a fair price for what you’re getting.
@fj7509
@fj7509 Ай бұрын
@@Doggo-frencton The movement inside the Daytona is the best automatic chronograph movement on the market, yes, even better than the one they’re putting in the Zenith and AP chronos. The vertical clutch movement, ceramic bearings, power reserve, while still having a dead silent rotor, 100m water resistance, and more shock tolerance than anything else is insane
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Ай бұрын
@@fj7509 So are those particular features worth about twice competing high end chronos from different brands in your opinion?
@johanswe6890
@johanswe6890 Ай бұрын
I own two Rolexes but the general hype has made me so tired of the brand lately. I walked into an AD today and they actually had a few pieces available, mainly t-t. For the first time I realized that I wasn’t interested in exploring them. The past few years have caused Rolex fatigue for me. And to be perfectly honest: A speedy looks and feels nicer than a Daytona imho.
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
I have both a Speedy Pro and a Daytona Panda. Love them both. The Speedy is a fantastic watch.
@Stealther
@Stealther 20 күн бұрын
If you don’t pay attention to hype it shouldn’t make you want or dislike any watch. If it’s not available, just wait. Or don’t, there are lots of great watches.
@regsantotomas
@regsantotomas Ай бұрын
Hype hasn’t ruined the Daytona model but Rolex as a brand has become less appealing for buyers like myself. The outrageous demand requires participation in buying history gymnastics that makes acquisition too much trouble than it’s worth for me. While this isn’t inherently Rolex or specifically the Daytona’s fault, my days of trying to appeal to my dealer to have the privilege of buying one is over. I have moved on to brands that are willing to cater to me and not the other way around.
@Blayzn18
@Blayzn18 Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed that honest solid take on the Daytona. You make a good case for each point but at no time did I think you didn't love this watch! I would love to see more content like this. Thanks Teddy
@kfung4
@kfung4 Ай бұрын
It really doesn’t matter how great it is if the consumer can not get it
@davidma1304
@davidma1304 Ай бұрын
Consumers can get it. Just not every consumer that wants one.
@grammarboy1318
@grammarboy1318 Ай бұрын
I got one, although it did take a long time and numerous attempts. No relationship with that AD. Maybe I was lucky, but then I’ve been lucky three times - also with a Sub (although in 2005 when you could walk in and buy one), and in 2021 with a Batgirl. Three different ADs, no relationships with any of them.
@ChristianBecker-em9ic
@ChristianBecker-em9ic Ай бұрын
For my part, I celebrate every copy/homage that destroys the image of Swiss watch brands with their outdated techniques, exorbitant prices and unbelievable arrogance.
@ordoabchao4202
@ordoabchao4202 Ай бұрын
You can always get it. We have free markets (I'm assuming you're not sitting in North Korea).
@SanjOutten
@SanjOutten 19 сағат бұрын
As always the most thoughtful , well researched & eloquent watch channel around , keep AMZWATCH coming !
@rohan199221
@rohan199221 Ай бұрын
Love my 116500. It wears so well, has a deep motorsport connection, and the build quality feels indestructible. I cant imagine buying it and not wearing it though, I have worn it so much the polished center links look brushed now lol
@mehdizerzeri1977
@mehdizerzeri1977 Ай бұрын
I would love a brushed center link. That is what I dislike about mine
@sskumariyer
@sskumariyer Ай бұрын
@@mehdizerzeri1977 it can be done tbh- the center links can be nicely satinized. just have to send it to the right pros.
@andygregory2145
@andygregory2145 Ай бұрын
My grail watch! Hope to have it one day.. The 126500ln has improved certain aspect of the design while paying tribute to the earlier Daytonas 1. Thinner counter rings which resembles the Zenith Daytona 2. Bezel with outer metal rings similar to the earlier Daytonas 3. Symmertical lugs 4. Redesigned case with contoured lugs to sit better on wrist 5. Chronograph pusher slightly bigger for easy operation
@Lokkodog
@Lokkodog Күн бұрын
Im fortunate it to own one, love it but hard to tell the time in the dark / dim lighting on white dial
@pitervain6644
@pitervain6644 Ай бұрын
I purchased the Daytona Panda about six months ago, I owe few originals (GMT, Aquanaut 5167), I must admit, after getting this rep I don't see the point of buying genuine anymore. This watch is so identical that it would be impossible to spot unless you are very experienced and even then it won't be an easy task, basically impossible unless you inspect the movement it self which is also 4130 cIoned movement.
@danielrony4169
@danielrony4169 Ай бұрын
Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend
@Sorabin
@Sorabin Ай бұрын
I guess from Clones by Xujia
@pitervain6644
@pitervain6644 Ай бұрын
Correct.
@danielrony4169
@danielrony4169 Ай бұрын
Thanks! on insta?
@pitervain6644
@pitervain6644 Ай бұрын
Yes, they have a page
@sobewisdom
@sobewisdom Ай бұрын
Rolex, Hermes, Ferrari. They are very good in making customers work for them instead of the other way around. Psychopathology of humans is fascinating.
@michaelh.1627
@michaelh.1627 Ай бұрын
Well said!
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
Just say no, folks.
@johnpark7972
@johnpark7972 Ай бұрын
of the 3, Ferrari is the most worth it and then there's also Amex with their black card
@MDSkai
@MDSkai Ай бұрын
The Daytona was always a grail for me since I was born and raised in Daytona Beach. I remember going to the races as a kid and always seeing it on the billboards. But yes, hype has made it bit less of a grail for me. It shouldn’t be that way, but it is
@sino8r499
@sino8r499 Ай бұрын
Overpricing is what will kill Rolex soon enough
@OrdinaryWatchGuy
@OrdinaryWatchGuy Ай бұрын
A watch brand can survive over pricing, but mistreatment of customers is a strange and dangerous business strategy indeed.
@pauln0371
@pauln0371 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the crappy AD experience.....
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 Ай бұрын
Zero chance
@emc14000
@emc14000 Ай бұрын
Teddy, great analysis. Love your objective, well photographed videos always. I believe the Rootbeer GMT and this Daytona are very special and unique pieces and super hard to get . How many pieces do you think the NYC AD's get per year? I Imagine its pretty low figure but tell me your guesstimate.
@pspez
@pspez Ай бұрын
I would love to own a Daytona but can't justify paying the going price of the watch. I have the Omega moon watch and LOVE it. Totally reasonably priced and one amazing movement. I have the black dial with the Hesalite crystal. I find myself constantly looking at my watch and that is what it is all about. I am now looking to purchase the white dial.
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
Speedy Pros look great on Nato straps too.
@namenamenamename7224
@namenamenamename7224 Ай бұрын
Breitling AD: I walk in, the sales rep is friendly, shows me a Superocean Heritage Chrono and I can buy it that day. Zenith AD: I walk in, the sales rep is friendly, shows me a Chronomaster Sport and I can buy it in most colors that day or have to order it and wait in popular colors. Rolex AD: Sometimes ADs are friendly, but there's literally nothing I can buy and walk out with, nor actually order, even pieces with half the retail value of the Zenith.
@kfkwAL7
@kfkwAL7 Ай бұрын
You’re going to the wrong ad. It’s 2024 not 2021, there are watches available
@keepcalm1224
@keepcalm1224 Ай бұрын
@@kfkwAL7 -There is a difference between "watches" being available and the watch you WANT being available. Clearly you didn't get the message the person above was trying to make.
@kfkwAL7
@kfkwAL7 Ай бұрын
@@keepcalm1224 no I didn’t because breitling and zenith hardly compare to Rolex.
@estogaza1
@estogaza1 Ай бұрын
I live in Indonesia. Before 2012, you could literally walk into an AD, choose the serial numbers you liked, and even get a 5% discount on top of the MSRP if you signed up for a VIP membership. The Rolex secondary market was even 20-30% cheaper than buying brand new. The only reason to buy at MSRP was to experience being treated like a special customer at the boutique.
@Ironcarlo
@Ironcarlo Ай бұрын
@@kfkwAL7infatti zenith ha dei movimenti migliori, ho entrambi i marchi e se dovessi vendere un orologio venderei il Rolex
@FelixRodriguez-vg9pp
@FelixRodriguez-vg9pp Ай бұрын
Outstanding production! As always… the photography is next level.
@Civera89
@Civera89 Ай бұрын
If I’m spending that much on a watch it better have a gold or platinum case. $30k+ is too much for a watch that has
@paraknasish
@paraknasish Ай бұрын
Great video as always! The thickness of the daytona is amazing, 11mm for an automatic mechanical chronograph of this caliber is just nuts and it makes the wearability much better. Love it
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
I'm done with Rolex. They could easily produce more Daytonas, Pepsis, etc., but choose not to. Don't believe the lies about capacity limits, supply shortages, supply chain issues, and so on. They deliberately underproduce in order to feed the hype. Other companies do this also (Hermes, AP, Porsche, Patek, Ferrari, and many more). Just say no. Take your hard-earned money elsewhere, where you will be treated appropriately. Teach them a lesson.
@DJMasse
@DJMasse Ай бұрын
Love my 116500, I wear it all the time! Waiting on a matching 126500 from my AD
@namniag
@namniag Ай бұрын
Short answer: Yes.
@007-i6z8v
@007-i6z8v Ай бұрын
One of the fairest assessments i seen in recent years! Finally there's somebody who looks beyond just bashing the watch! Great video.
@user-kq6tt7oo3x
@user-kq6tt7oo3x Күн бұрын
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the AMZWATCH’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
@pierremartin9048
@pierremartin9048 Ай бұрын
as a 60 year old, starting to build 5-8 years ago, the BS treatment killed my appetite for a few of them. but they won't have to worry, do like Tudor though.
@IllusiveMan51
@IllusiveMan51 Ай бұрын
I moved from Rolex in 2022. See ya, keep treating customers like trash.
@joshmorrisofficial
@joshmorrisofficial Ай бұрын
Great watch. Let all the haters air their dirty vibes in the comments. I’m here for the Daytona 🔥
@Sams911
@Sams911 Ай бұрын
I like the Daytona .. but for me the holy grail rolex is the Pepsi GMT Meteorite dial version... now that is a unique watch
@michellep2682
@michellep2682 Ай бұрын
I have the 116500 White dial. Tried on the 126500 and it felt larger on my wrist. I will stick with the 116500. Perfect fit for me
@petewilson2314
@petewilson2314 Ай бұрын
Hey Teddy, loved this format and subject matter. The Daytona isn't a watch for me, although I would not mind having one with the ice blue dial. Looking forward to your next vid!
@tonymarino1593
@tonymarino1593 Ай бұрын
I love the addition of the data and style of this episode.
@bongkem2723
@bongkem2723 Ай бұрын
for the 32k$ of the secondary market, it competes with Patek/AP/Lange price range, it's a no-brainer to choose between an entry luxury vs an actual top-tier luxury ;)
@Mega-zi7ys
@Mega-zi7ys Ай бұрын
Correct!🎉
@macrowatchman
@macrowatchman Ай бұрын
Really nice videography! Cool to see the style of your videos evolve!
@koolpep
@koolpep Ай бұрын
Happily wearing my 126500LN black dial. Love it.
@IngWeldon
@IngWeldon 17 күн бұрын
I love watching your videos and MAMACOO to keep myself updated on the world of watches
@MrSaadmubarak
@MrSaadmubarak Ай бұрын
Loved your video, it's very important to separate the watch, from the baggage. I own the 116500ln, and it's an amazing watch. It has great dimensions, an extremely reliable and accurate movement, and a great bracelet. The Rolex supply/demand has become a feeling hard to ignore, but I'm happy i have my Daytona. I've shopped with different brands recently including Cartier and love having a diverse collection.
@LisonbeeMcpeake
@LisonbeeMcpeake 24 күн бұрын
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the MAMACOO’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
@dl14say67
@dl14say67 Ай бұрын
Picked my 126500 white dial 1 month ago and it is now my daily. The hype is justified, it’s a great watch, especially with this latest refresh. I think it will be a very long time before this one gets replaced.
@fredtafel
@fredtafel Ай бұрын
It’s only justified for people that need to feel important in other people s eyes. It’s just a flex trophy and nothing special about the brand nor their watches
@johnseeger9083
@johnseeger9083 Ай бұрын
Teddy, Thanks for both a historical and contemporary look at an iconic piece. I am agnostic on most of the high horology Swiss watch mania because they are out of my price range. I missed the train in the 1980s when a Rolex or an Omega was “affordable” (aka one or two month’s salary). I couldn’t justify the cost then, so you can imagine how I feel now. The North American and Japanese options are affordable making them wearable as opposed to precious. Just like Bentley and Aston Martin cars, I can appreciate the quality of Rolex and Omegas while understanding that I will never have the disposable income required for purchase. That means the Rolex and Omega hype simply flies above me resulting in amusement rather than resentment. Cheers JR Seeger Old warrior, even older novelist
@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 Ай бұрын
To add to Teddy’s sage advice, and if you are a value collector like c’est moi, I would recommend 2 much less expensive choices. First, if you like today’s Daytona design language, check out the Tudor chronographs. If you like the Paul Newman Daytona design language, check out the Nivada Gretchen chronosport.
@skyworks1621
@skyworks1621 Ай бұрын
I like all the models, the Submariner, GMT and Daytona. The 2010 Daytona was a bit small for me, I dont know hot it is with the ceramic bezel. For now submariner 41 is my watch and I love it.
@Chris-mh3vf
@Chris-mh3vf Ай бұрын
Always needed a date sold mine years ago
@philiplauzon1743
@philiplauzon1743 Ай бұрын
Hype has ruined Rolex all together. It’s the one brand I just will never wear
@jl6924
@jl6924 9 күн бұрын
I guess AP and Patek are also dead. That case you just missed out on all three amazing watch makers in our very limited life time. I do feel bad for you
@philiplauzon1743
@philiplauzon1743 9 күн бұрын
@@jl6924Don’t feel bad for me, I just don’t associate to what everyone wants as you do 👍
@jl6924
@jl6924 9 күн бұрын
@@philiplauzon1743 I’m a driver, racing Daytona has always been a dream. When it comes to chronograph, Daytona is almost the only option for me. (Patek calendars with chronograph is extremely nice but that’s down the road) and again it’s not about hype, I’ve been waiting for a nautilus 5990. It’s just a watch, if hype ruined a brand for you I’d say you are probably not passionate enough. Most importantly is the flippers that ruined things.
@pstrzezek
@pstrzezek 8 күн бұрын
To wear one you first need to have one 😊 I like this common meltdown from those who usually never had one of those on their wrist
@philiplauzon1743
@philiplauzon1743 Күн бұрын
@@pstrzezek I’ll never own/wear one exactly because of people like you. Thank you 🙏
@SalusLudtke
@SalusLudtke 15 сағат бұрын
What a nice video. You have a new subscriber!Really cool offering from MAMACOO! I love the black dial. Great!
@astrostl
@astrostl Ай бұрын
Totally prefer the 116500. Hate the new metal bezel ring in particular. Don't like what they did with the dial either.
@psgunderworkout
@psgunderworkout Ай бұрын
The 116500 proportions are much better than the new one.
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 Ай бұрын
Have head my white dial, Zenith powered Daytona for more than 20 years - love it. I’ve only had the new version for a few months and it doesn’t fit the same. I prefer the old.
@ALL-il1sw
@ALL-il1sw Ай бұрын
"To be the best you do not need the best product, you just need the best Marketing" - Hans Wilsdorf (founder of Rolex)
@roflagain1
@roflagain1 Ай бұрын
I wear this watch all the time. And yes, I do have scratches on the clasp.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si Ай бұрын
“By nearly every metric, the Daytona is a phenomenal watch”….except for the part where you actually use its chrono function. It’s always had a 4 Hz movement precise to 1/8 second and a dial precise to 1/5 second. I’ve never taken this watch seriously.
@SampleTracks2224
@SampleTracks2224 Ай бұрын
Lol, primary school error. Won't someone think of the value appurtunidy!
@billybenson3834
@billybenson3834 Ай бұрын
That is unacceptable since most wearers need the higher accuracy to time their lunch hour
@yellowwducky
@yellowwducky Ай бұрын
Agree, by every metric....nope - a GO chrono has more power reserve, better depth rating and a see through caseback and you can actually buy one for a fraction of the price of a Rolex.
@unnamedhero5111
@unnamedhero5111 17 күн бұрын
you forgot to mention how uncomfortable to use these screw-down pushers
@TwSClan
@TwSClan Ай бұрын
I’m still looking to buy a 116500LN panda. I been waiting for the prices to got a bit lower than 28,000
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky Ай бұрын
Buy a super clone for just under $1,000. Almost indistinguishable from the original, unless you open the case and examine the movement, which is actually pretty good.
@alwong604
@alwong604 Ай бұрын
The Daytona has achieved a place in society where when you see someone who wears one, you become more curious in that person Who is he? What does he do? How did he get that watch? VS "Oooh nice watch" The Daytona is not the ONLY watch to achieve this, but it is among the more affordable, especially compared to APs, Pateks & RMs. A very nice analogy to this, watch RCR's Car review of the Ferrari Modena 360. A Ferrari, also has a similar affect.
@stumpy075
@stumpy075 Ай бұрын
Actually my first thought is that it’s likely a replica. Another unfortunate problem with the Daytona is that you have to worry about being mugged by wearing it. I like the Daytona and would seriously consider buying one if available at MSRP. I love my Glashutte and don’t worry about being mugged, and honestly it’s a superior watch for less money.
@SampleTracks2224
@SampleTracks2224 Ай бұрын
Nope. When I see someone wearing a Daytona the absolute last thing I want to know is "anything about that person". Your mileage may vary.
@alwong604
@alwong604 Ай бұрын
@@stumpy075 Funnily enough, that also crosses my mind from time to time. Luckily, my city doesn't seem to have a problem with watch crime (yet?) Glashutte is definitely a tier above in the watchmaking game.
@alwong604
@alwong604 Ай бұрын
@@SampleTracks2224 Well in my line of work (sales), getting to know your client is par for the course. Watches are an excellent ice breaker and can help build rapport.
@shaverray4462
@shaverray4462 Ай бұрын
Depends who’s wearing it: but mostly I assume it’s probably a fake.
@TheJMedia
@TheJMedia 21 күн бұрын
Would love a Daytona to add to the collection one day! My brother was lucky to be offered a panda Daytona at his AD
@andrewallen2038
@andrewallen2038 Ай бұрын
Ryan, you are absolutely spot on. Well said 👏👏👏
@SgtHooch
@SgtHooch Ай бұрын
Yes. I just got back from a vacation in Asia (Hong Kong, Seoul, Osaka, Tokyo) and the stores are full of them. I had no idea that there were so many. All the talk about the impossibility of getting one, seems wrong. They were in every store I walked in and I walked in many of them, especially Japan. Mind you, they were pre-owned, but they were everyone. Even more, I didn't see anyone buying a Daytona or even a Rolex. There were plenty of people in the stores, just no buyers of the brand. Sad.
@RogelioAntillon
@RogelioAntillon Ай бұрын
Imagine if they also treated poorly customer that want to buy pre-owned, that would be a double humiliation.
@LJS1610
@LJS1610 Ай бұрын
I live in HK and been going around ADs. When you say “stores are full of them”, you mean the Grey market right?
@tiagobrandao6588
@tiagobrandao6588 Ай бұрын
Really cool that they use gold engraving for a movement you can't see. Great use of precious metals
@ellardgrudzinski
@ellardgrudzinski Ай бұрын
What an amazing outcome for a beautiful watch. Always a pleasure to see MAMACOO work your magic. Thanks for sharing this transformation with us!
@ianmansfield68
@ianmansfield68 Ай бұрын
My favourite watch channel Teddy! I like how you gave a comprehensive review of the watch without any for /against bias, appreciating the engineering but remaining neutral with no judgments; "it's all down to your personal taste". Good job! For me the answer is yes; there are other brands I would buy over Rolex because I prefer them, and a few models also happen to be less expensive. But, as you say, that's down to my personal taste ;-D
@ManeraVandyck
@ManeraVandyck 25 күн бұрын
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!MAMACOO watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
@Rhal63
@Rhal63 Ай бұрын
Don’t pay resale for concert tickets. Don’t negotiate with your AD. If something you want comes in, you’ll get a call and they will give you a good price. Thanks Teddy
@LashondaBeesmer
@LashondaBeesmer 5 күн бұрын
MAMACOO Stunning watches stunning video you are special i love it keep it up
@UwaseTae
@UwaseTae 28 күн бұрын
MAMACOO!Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
@edotedy
@edotedy Ай бұрын
Congrats on your new pickup Teddy!
@6172crew1
@6172crew1 Ай бұрын
After I was able to buy a BLNR I started thinking about the Daytona. I got to try it on and it’s thin and lighter feeling so if I’m offered one made in stainless steel I’ll buy one. The older explorer 2 is coming down in price so I’ll probably end up going that route before being offered the Daytona.
@ManmanNorales
@ManmanNorales 3 күн бұрын
God!!! MAMACOO Who would have thought those gorgeous watches go for that low!!!
@structurescience
@structurescience Ай бұрын
My one and only watch: a gold Daytona, 116528. Love it.
@theadventuresofwolf5.77
@theadventuresofwolf5.77 Ай бұрын
Rolex is like that tease in high school. play hard to get and eventually everyone passes on you 😂
@kfkwAL7
@kfkwAL7 Ай бұрын
Yes flippers have killed it. For years it struggled to sell then comes covid, perceived limited availability and they are selling for 3 times rrp. Rolex sees this and increases the price, therefore resale value increases too.
@williamsink5033
@williamsink5033 Ай бұрын
No thanks, I'll keep my Seitona !!
@TonyAndersonMusic
@TonyAndersonMusic Ай бұрын
Rolex sold me an Arabic blue Daytona in 2013. It was just sitting in the case and they were actively trying to sell it - 16,800 retail. I never wore it and sold it at a loss the next year. One of the worst and most foolish mistakes of my life! I think about that decision often and it has guided future purchases to this day. Thankful to still have the submariner I bought the same year which is scratched and dinged up. I wear it every day.
@sergeyyurchenko7014
@sergeyyurchenko7014 Ай бұрын
May be people are smarter now and do not want to overpay
@sino8r499
@sino8r499 Ай бұрын
Maybe covid destroyed the world economy and most can't now if they even wanted one
@borjastick
@borjastick Ай бұрын
I once bought a Rolex Explorer 39mm for about £5200 off ebay. It was perfect and I loved it, then I went mad and sold it. Big mistake. So I started to try and get my hands on a new Rolly from an AD. Here in France I tried Paris, Marseille, Bordeaux. Complete and utter waste of time. The nicest was the lady in Paris who was so lovely and welcoming and made me complete their request form on a nice Ipad but that was over a year ago and I have heard nothing since and don't expect to. If I had a decent amount to spend on a watch today it would be a white dial new version Speedmaster Moonwatch like you showed in a recent video. They are priced correctly, very lovely and very available.
@kk7sm
@kk7sm Ай бұрын
I realize I'm an outlier, but I don't really care for the Daytona. It's a great watch. Don't get me wrong. But it's a great watch for someone else. For less than that, I can call JLC and order a Polaris Chronograph and know that I'll actually get a watch, and let's face it, the Polaris chronograph is a much more interesting watch. I'd even have money left over toward the bracelet and then I could wear it on either the bracelet or the strap. That's just one example of many, though. There are so very many excellent chronographs out there that are far more interesting to me than a Daytona. Navitimer, Chronomat, Carerra, Speedmaster, any number of El Primeros. There are so many options, all amazing in their own rights. I just don't even think about the Daytona really anymore...
@RMASUPERFLY
@RMASUPERFLY Ай бұрын
The Speedmaster Pro ruined it.
@MikeOBrien1945
@MikeOBrien1945 Ай бұрын
I luv my old original Omega Speedy. It’s a great watch and it is big enough to actually read n
@stevenprager203
@stevenprager203 Ай бұрын
Im thrilled with my 126503. It’s a work of art. Ted I do have a question. Will my iPad Pro affect the running? FYI It did on my GMT 126710BLNR ; between the magnetic key board and the magnets in the speakers .. I would so much appreciate your thoughts TEDDY.
@ongcheonghock
@ongcheonghock Ай бұрын
I still love my half gold, grey face Daytona. Was given the choice of this or an all steel Daytona for 12% more? Even the watch dealer said it didn’t make sense.
@grein545
@grein545 Ай бұрын
I considered getting the two tone version. It’s not much more expensive (by Rolex standards), apparently somewhat easier to obtain MSRP, and seems more befitting of the ostentatious character of the Daytona. That said I’m probably getting a Speedmaster first.
@vavelknight6167
@vavelknight6167 Ай бұрын
You won’t regret getting the speedmaster
@fj7509
@fj7509 Ай бұрын
You should get the two tone. I don’t understand why no one wants it lol
@berniedmd1901
@berniedmd1901 Ай бұрын
Finally bought my Platinum Daytona early this year. It took me months just to touch it. Then finally to wear it outside the house. Now I wear it as much as I can and the small scratches actually allow me to wear it more. Go Figure!!!
@lucorrez9991
@lucorrez9991 Ай бұрын
The black one looks way better!!!!!!!!!!!
@michaeljordan6008
@michaeljordan6008 Ай бұрын
Really? Always thought the black was ordinary.
@darellhunter2205
@darellhunter2205 Ай бұрын
I just recently joined the wait-list for the Panda. If I'm allocated one, it will definitely be getting wrist time as all the other pieces do. The only thing that will cut down on scratches is it'll be in a 4 watch rotation so it'll probably get 25% of the wrist time. Thanks for the video! I really appreciate the in-depth look.
@djp3525
@djp3525 Ай бұрын
Are you on the “put me on the list” or on the AD’s “don’t worry, you are on the list”…?
@darellhunter2205
@darellhunter2205 Ай бұрын
@@djp3525 I have a really good relationship with my AD. I've been allocated 3 pieces over the past 3 years, I think I'm on the actual "register of interest" list. Also, considering I love my current rotation and am also in the "list" for a 1908.. I'm in no rush. Life is good either way. Cheers my friend.
@kfkwAL7
@kfkwAL7 Ай бұрын
Ah the mythical “wait list” good luck with that.
@shaverray4462
@shaverray4462 Ай бұрын
There’s no wait list; that’s something the AD’s say to people to avoid saying “no”. Bottom line is if you’ve spent enough with your AD you’ll eventually get one; if you haven’t, you won’t.
@derc5284
@derc5284 Ай бұрын
Amazing Watch! A role model for so many other brands designs
@jcmartinez7527
@jcmartinez7527 Ай бұрын
Rolex’s scarcity has harmed Rolex heavily. Many brands have taken advantage. Many people have given up on pursuing a Rolex and opted for any other brand. And now that Rolex is building a new factory, the world is sliding into recession, with overall demand dwindling.
@halfsourlizard9319
@halfsourlizard9319 Ай бұрын
Harmed how, exactly? They're not having any difficulty at all selling watches at (new) and about (CPO) RRP ...
@Joelb-m1r
@Joelb-m1r Ай бұрын
Honestly I would take a Daytona over a Patek or AP, but the price is just ridiculous. I own a datejust 41 Wimbledon and an Omega seamaster diver 300m, both bought from AD but its not worth the time or money to try and get my hands on a Daytona. Grail watch though 👍🏼
@nelsonc6173
@nelsonc6173 Ай бұрын
Love the Daytona. But I can’t imagine paying 15 -25 grand for a Daytona or any watch for that matter. My limit is 1500. Plenty of great watches at that price level. If I was an Oligarch sure no problem. But I’m not so what I currently own is fine with me.
@metro2171
@metro2171 Ай бұрын
Ain’t nothing can stop the Legendary Daytona !This watch will be mine soon . Love this iconic piece
@yigitozkurter592
@yigitozkurter592 Ай бұрын
I don't know if it is an unpopular opinion but I would go for one of the new collection pieces of carrera or a speedmaster rather than paying that much to daytona.
@HrehaBreen
@HrehaBreen 22 күн бұрын
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
@esisolina
@esisolina Ай бұрын
I walked into an AD about 1 year ago and the salesperson (didn’t even say hello) but instantly said (we don’t have any sports watches) I said, what makes you think I’m after a Sports Model ? After a little silence I asked her to take my name of the stupid wait list. I walked out empowered. I’m enjoying other brands now that are much better and less spoken about which suits me fine. The Hype definitely ruined Rolex for me.
@bubba7177
@bubba7177 Ай бұрын
Got a submariner in 2002, walked into the ad, paid 10% below sticker. At that time, all rolex watches were selling at 10% below sticker from the ad, except for the daytona as they received so few of them. those sold at sticker. would not mind getting a daytona now, but will never pay anything more than sticker, and will never try to be best friends with my ad by buying all kinds of other items just to get to the top of the list. maybe if things return to the ways they were in the past I will be buy, but at this time, no.
@snowdennis
@snowdennis Ай бұрын
Wear my Daytona just about every day. Get comments on it all the time. Goes with everything.
@Sid00077
@Sid00077 Ай бұрын
"Earn those scratches and wear it well". That's something many people need to hear.
@kyledriscollmusic
@kyledriscollmusic Ай бұрын
such a good looking watch, just needs less text and maybe a display caseback
@blaineadams9986
@blaineadams9986 Ай бұрын
I was fortunate to have owned a white dial oyster steel Daytona. I sold it in 2012 because I was always afraid of being mugged. I had a business associate who went to the rest room at a night club and was knocked out while wearing a gold date just. His wallet was still in his pocket with all monies. I now wish I had kept it because of the the crazy price. I made a little profit but I certainly as a watch collector would charge a fellow collector these ridiculous prices. I only resale my watches to friends and family.
@ellardgrudzinski
@ellardgrudzinski Ай бұрын
I have to say that MAMACOO 's watches are amazing!
@derekbrettell8121
@derekbrettell8121 Ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant watch like many Rolex models. People can hate all they want but their watches are brilliant
@grammarboy1318
@grammarboy1318 Ай бұрын
I agree. The whiners are out in force today.
@fj7509
@fj7509 Ай бұрын
@@derekbrettell8121 Gotta love the comments on these videos. “I hate Rolex, arrogant, bad ADs, horrible experience.” Never do you hear anything about the watches being bad 😂
@fentonajoseph
@fentonajoseph Ай бұрын
⁠@@fj7509That’s because the quality of a product and the buying experience have zero correlation.
@cathydaly3436
@cathydaly3436 Ай бұрын
Great topic so please do it again.
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