This Should NOT Be Possible: Watch A Stock VW Keep Up With A Lifted Off-Roader Up A Mountain!

[@The_Hi_Life]

Holy cow the ground clearance on the touareg is amazing!!! And that Brown leather interior is beautiful! it really looks classy!

[@dzelpwr]

VW calls it teak. It's orange-ish too. My 04 has the same color in it. Great vehicle!

[@vagscanetprogramation7239]

But the R line version have full option and really really good interior from normal version

[@alewsome2005]

Put more agressive tires on the vw

[@jaylee8703]

Yeah the fact that the thing just cruised right through without much drama with those soccer mom tires/wheels...... LOL

[@BrendanPJames]

Alewsome why? It does just fine without them and it fits with the fact that it’s supposed to be an on road daily driver as well

[@alewsome2005]

Brendan James yeah but picture it having some mud/ all-terrain tires on that bad boy, with maybe some bolted fenders? It would still be road worthy with A/T but would give it an extra aesthetic spice

[@jaylee8703]

@@alewsome2005 Yep... would be THAT MUCH COOLER / MORE CAPABLE with the off road tires.

[@alewsome2005]

Thorsten that’s what I run on my bronco

[@supernova1976]

I used to own the Touareg and a 2002 Rangrover which is basically same as this discovery. used to take them to some serious offroading few times mainly sand dune bashing and some rock crowling and river bed driving. the Rangerover was super solid on the rocks i could just place the wheel wherever i wanted and it never slips , it was good on sand but felt a bit heavy , still managed to climb the biggest dunes :) and some jumps, untill i busted the air shocks . the Touareg wasn't as capable i guess because my one wasent the fully loaded options , still managed to do alot of offroad driving but not as hardcore as the Rangerover and got stuck more often, however it was good enough for me, and what it lacked offroad it made it up on the road, it had great handling and absorbed road bumps and humps like a champ . Rangerover reliability was 4 /10 ( not due to jumping issue )and VW was 8/10 in similar periods and Km. Rangrover had only 20k km when i bought it still under warranty and sold it about 56k km in between had all air shocks bags replaced engine leaking oil due to deformed cam cover , electrical issues due to loose connections, air compressor leaking . VW only had engine coil issue after warranty was expired but dealer replaced them free of charge , and interior couldn't handle the hot weather it was pealing all over and quality of material felt cheap.

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

supernova1976 a 2003 Range Rover is a completely different vehicle than a discovery. Different chassis (monocoque vs body on frame), different suspension ( solid axle vs independent, different traction control system, different motor and trans, I could go on forever lol

[@andrewhovanetz3525]

supernova1976 ahhh so an 02 haha

[@altergreenhorn]

? NOPE RR 2003 and this Discovery has only one common thing the name Land Rover and both have 4 wheels

[@supernova1976]

@@altergreenhorn 2002

[@jeepjoseph9036]

?

[@alir9854]

Don't forget about Cayenne in the 1st gen. It was the same capable. True off-road Porsche!!! :)

[@rodcros]

My '04 Cayenne S has all of the Tuareg's equipment except the air suspension. It goes off-road reasonably well, but it's too stiff, heavy and wide for applications around my property where my narrower and more flexible '02 Toyota Tacoma 2.7 L 4X4 is the usual choice. The Tacoma is also vastly superior in deep snow to the Cayenne, though on a winter highway, equipped with winter tires, the Cayenne rules.

[@nissanpatrol8950]

Ali R it is also a vw Audi group car

[@indahooddererste]

@@nissanpatrol8950 not back then even though they produced both in the same factory in slovakia. they both had major shares on each other but few years later vw purchased porsche. The funfact Dr. Piech the son of Ferdindand Porsche was the ceo of VW.

[@lazarushernandez5827]

@@indahooddererste There was some weird history between VW and Porsche in the 2000s, You are correct in saying the VW purchased Porsche, but a while earlier, Porsche was actually trying to purchase VW (or at least take controlling interest). The cars were twins, but Porsche tuned theirs more for on road performance while the VW had more off-road capability.

[@maxfacts1]

Torsen Differentials are GREAT, no sensors no computers no using the brakes to vector torque needed. Torsen Rules the On Road, Off Road, Rally Racing, Circuit Racing, Track Racing, and Drag Racing World. Audi Torsen Quatro DOMINATED Racing so much that its competition cried and cried until the rules were changed and Quatro was banned.

[@dzelpwr]

Yeah, but the Touareg isn't torsen. It has an actual transfer case...

[@dzelpwr]

I see in my notifications a reply, but I don't see the reply here anymore... Torsen is a real center differential, it's a gear type limited slip effectively. And it is mechanical and works quite well, although in a zero traction situation for the front axle it might not send any power to the rear. When there's zero traction for one axle, it still ends up acting like an open differential. The Touareg uses a computer-controlled transfer case. There's a motor that applies clutch packs and in normal mode, it goes from 60-something percent power to the rear and back to 100% rear on and off. You also have the option, once in low, to lock the clutch plate full time for a 50/50 power split. And that brings me to the next important point. The transfer case has a planetary gearset that an electric motor slides a selector collar to engage and disengage whenever one selects the low gear for extra gear reduction. A torsen system doesn't have that. A pretty important distinction, especially for serious off roading. The motor that applies clutch plates to vary the power split front to rear is pretty common for automatic 4WD/AWD systems and it's definitely a very difference concept than torsen. Torsen is a more integrated and much, much lighter weight design. Later Touaregs I believe do use a setup much more like torsen (and they managed to drop 200 lbs of weight thanks to the switch), but these early ones have the transfer case with low gear reduction instead, which helps make them a very excellent off roader, hence why TFL chose it.

[@maxfacts1]

@@dzelpwr In my reply 2 gen Treg did use Toresen hope you can read it my reposted reply now. BTW: Hummer used a very off-road capable AWD system Torsen.

[@twintornadoestravel1119]

Love my '04 4.2L VW! Love watching you work yours out on the trail!

[@AdamLeask]

As much of a Land Rover fan as I am, the Touareg was simply so impressive in standard form up this trail. With a few minor upgrades, it'd be a killer in the off-road world!

[@catchme_ifyoucan8317]

i have the same touareg i off road it almost every weekend in hollister hills nobody even dares go trough where the touareg goes its an absolute monster

[@ralphcasados8862]

The Touareg were awesome designs from VW very stable units not built for hard offroading but will get the job done. My friend had one and it went where ever my Jeep did except for large drops that hung up - I was very empressed.

[@krane15]

Considering the Land Rover was struggling more than a few times it looked pretty hard to me

[@yuridaman]

Not so much how good the Vw is but how the Lr isn't set up right. If you are gonna set it up for off road, you are gonna give it diff locks. Not just a lift kit and big tyres to look cool.

[@717UT]

The only real knock against the VW, which I think he mentioned, is all the tech makes it what it is and I would be worried beating up a little and having a more expensive failure over time. Coil springs and solid axles, while rudimentary are very simple and tough. I would feel more comfortable in a vehicle with that configuration as far as ruggedness is concerned but it doesn't diminish how amazing the VW did and would do with off-road tires

[@gnashdog290]

I sold VWs in the day, the Toureg could climb a 45 degree grade all day long. and replacing breaks was soooo much cheaper too.

[@timmusick9875]

Brilliant video, as a happy Touareg owner I enjoyed that detailed analysis.

[@towmater2276]

Best off-road vehicle I ever had was a 1982 LaCar it had tons of ground clearance, weighed nothing so the skinny tires would cut right through mud. It fit on dirt bike trails. Could go places no other street legal automobile could. It had a fold back roof that was a lot of fun!

[@shawnrutters]

One request please. Do some research on the Touareg. Engine sizes, avail options etc. I know you are testing a T1 4.8 but there were other avail options. And you keep pointing them out as "weakness" you A. Can get a full locking front diff B. Full size spare tire on swing out exterior rack C. Even bigger engine options D. Full metal skid plates. Compare the T1 R50 or the T1 R60

[@johanrenencampaniel2270]

In human form land rover =. Buff guy with good techniques VW = nerd with all the knowledge

[@dawggonevidz9140]

VW Touareg and the Kia Sorento 04 to 09) are the two most underrated offroad capable SUVs on the market. I've had both into places where "real" offroaders are just stunned to see me. HAving had both, I'd have to say the Touareg is the nicer car to daily drive and the Sorento is just a little bit better offroad. If I had to pick one it would be the VW.

[@skerminkel9971]

Touareg has airbags in the sides of the front seats as well, so another two...

[@johannesfranck1770]

Sker minkel yes but A, B and C Piller airbags are one itˋs a window bag, so in total it had 2 in front, 2 in the front seats and 2 at the side windows.

[@philipmhomer]

LOL - I owned both of these cars and used them as daily drivers! (1999 Discovery and 2004 Touareg). I enjoyed both of them but never did any serious off-roading so I am now driving an AWD crossover which is more suited to my needs for Minnesota winter driving.

[@koolpep]

I have an 2014 Toureg with an Middle East, Russia, Brazil only V8 wi5h the updated 4.2 V8 FSI with 360 PS and air suspension. It unfortunately got rid of the low range but is very capable still. And the air suspension, maaaaan....

[@AUTOTVO]

This Touareg is impressive. And the 4.2 engine is pretty quiet which is really good compared to the 5.0 diesel V10.

[@volla40]

Touareg has only 4 airbags. The 3 you count on the sides is actually 1 curtain airbag that runs from the A-pillar to the C-pillar. Check the front seat backs for an airbag tag. It should have seat mounted side airbags at the front and possibly at the rear. if these are fitted then you will have 8 airbags.

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

The VW air hose stock on board air! WHAT? Thats just insane.

[@Billfish57]

No, it's just a hose. Any car can have a hose in the trunk with a compressor attached for about 35 dollars.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

My friend have Tuareg like this and now I have to see is his tuareg better than my old school XJ!!! 😁

[@BobLionel]

Those things aren't even close to as good as an XJ. Throw a 4" lift on an XJ and some 33" tires and it'll make that Taureg look like a subaru.

[@V8AmericanMuscleCar]

@@BobLionel I have 3 inch lift and 31x10.5x15 STT PROs and it goes everywhere! Better or not, old school for me!

[@marklion315]

@@BobLionel you can get the same thing on the VW and it would embarrass the XJ

[@ericklochner8770]

There is a non air suspension version of Touareg as well, and there is lift kits available for it. The V6 TDI version has lots of torque and it is reliable, come to Africa, you will see more Touaregs than Jeeps in the bush, because they actually work.

[@stuart4858]

Extra high is only for short section such as water crossings, as you have no suspension travel. Normally hou would use high for this work.

[@91lrrrc]

You are comparing much older technology, even if they are both 2004 model years. One was a new platform and the other was a last year for the platform. A LR3/Discovery 3 or even Ranger Rover Sport (all with HD package) would be a much more apples to apples comparison. Both similar in design with electronic rear locker, ifs/irs, adjustable air suspension, same size wheels/all season tires, more modern traction control system, electronic switch transfer case, driving modes, etc. Would be cool to see a comparison with the comparable new platform Discovery aka LR3. No doubt the Touareg and the Cayenne is a wolf in sheep when it comes to off-roading. The RRS & LRS while coming from a serious off-road brand name, aren’t given they credit they deserve or take as serious as a Discovery 1-2 or Defender but are highly capable and can keep up with modified ones given there newer technology

[@ColoradoDashCam]

I wanted a Toureg for quite some time, this makes me want one again. You don't get off-road capability in many new SUV's

[@richardzhernandez805]

I'm running 265/65/18 Nitto EXO Grapplers on my 05 Touareg they're the best tire I've had on it.

[@443829566]

Australia and other markets have the option of full size spare available hanging on the back. And I'd go with the Touareg any day!

[@jz2981]

7:45 "It feels very 80's...." WTF? Is the American market really this materialistic? Mate, you are reviewing a 4 x 4. If you want a nice interior for your nice soft hands, go down the mountain, go into the city and buy yourself a nice, soft city car! Where do they get these people? Next you'll be 'reviewing' 4x4's with cup-holders! (Apologies to any Anericans reading this who happen to be real men and don't give a **** for soft features).

[@ratman5727]

Even as an American, -I agree with you 100%!!

[@sunsetoriginals7320]

The electronics and lack of a skid plate do worry me but I do love a good sleeper!

[@sherwinchia8114]

Air down those tires and don't lose momentum on those climbs. And you'll go even further!

[@mattmorris8971]

The beginning of the video includes a JL sport being tested under similar conditions. Is that test in another video? I can’t find your off road testing of the JL sport in any of the other reviews.

[@terminalfx]

just needs a set of KO2's and it will be truely unstoppable.

[@TFLcar]

Done!

[@johnfilmore7638]

@Peder Hansen is that why virtually every competition rock crawler chooses BFG? I use AM General and they are great for the lowest cost offroading, but if my life was on the line and I was gonna try to drive the Baja (look it up) I wouldnt risk my life with anything less than BFG. Who has a better proven offroad track record?

[@henkstols9326]

Rear difflock on the Landy will take it to the next level, the vw is awesome but tbh the more electronics the more can go wrong.

[@rambrasil]

You watch this off road video, and realize that there are certain trails that are just better to do by biking or hiking. I love the Touareg series from the channel, but you can easily get a 4k bill from a mechanic for maintenance on simple things after an off road adventure.

[@thesmallguy6613]

I’d prefer the VW, because of the fact that it’s a lot more comfortable as a daily driver... also I work on a coal mine as an engineer and thus drive gravel roads every day, so again, the touareg is the better choice, because it’s just better and more comfortable in every way on corrigated gravel... also I’m in the process of purchasing a V10 tdi✌🏻

[@Jamieandrew1156]

Literally watched a disco II explode in an epic cloud of steam and smoke on the highway today and thought of you guys

[@rahulrane1658]

Wow. I saw the other video of your toureg. It really is awesome

[@zachcredaro8196]

Which one will kill it's CV joints or drive line first is my question. Most vehicles with all wheel drive can do those tracks with smart driving, but which is stronger?

[@MrPeach18]

im british and id never buy a range rover ,land rover or anything british off road.i have a 3.2 touareg and love it to bits.totally understated and basically the dogs bollocks

[@mathias4060]

As long as terrain is not too rocky, muddy or too steep the VW will have no problem even outperforming true offroaders. It's just a really well built and balanced car with an unreliable engine.

[@peterj6137]

Good video keep them coming as always great job. They are both great (VW and Disco) but it would be good if you had same tires and same load in both vehicles. Maybe test in different conditions too.

[@discoveraudio6593]

That car is simply the best!!! Great video, guys!

[@edwardpeters4700]

Looks like its time for the TFL Pro to give these two upstarts a proper spanking.

[@Tsxtasy1]

Have you guys noticed that the apostrophe in X .tra is actually a period?

[@morphshag]

You say you like the engine? Tis a shame you didn't get the Diesel versions. they are nice.

[@krane15]

Only a handful made it across the pond.

[@billjackson5349]

I have one they could take a look at when I go to Colorado to visit friends next time. Maybe I'll give them a heads up next time I head out that way

[@edjackson4389]

Hey, how is the Touareg holding up a year later? You guys still have it?? If so, have there been any expensive failures??

[@wristschatz1454]

I would really consider getting a full-sized spare for the VW to carry with you. Even if it’s just a cheap unmatched wheel.

[@kichaa13]

Why shouldn't it be possible? The disco was lifted for more clearance, the only advantage it has is in situations where clearance is important. The vw could have good tc and diff lockers with the right spec

[@Arcticarc1]

Would take the Touareg in a heartbeat

[@GuillermoARP]

I'd love to see the Toureg with 3 diff locks and disconecting sway bar on this channel.

[@aaronb7996]

I'd take a gx470 and call it a day, after I get home okay.

[@korling99]

very well done video!

[@johanlabuschagne377]

I think you should fire the Landy as your recovery vehicle and appoint the Beetle

[@georgelaskaris1682]

Cmon Man , say it right ! Its Tu-aa-reg from the African tribe. And if I remember VW purchased or licenced the name from Aprilia motorcycles as they allready had an on-off model with the name.

[@dehydratedwater9734]

Are you guys going to put more aggressive tires on that Touareg?

[@jedironin380]

12 air bags, if you include the suspension! ;) Nicely done on that trail. I have a '19 Cherokee Trailhawk, which performs much like the VW. The main drawback is it's just shy of 9" of ground clearance. How many times have you actually replaced the head gaskets on the Disco?

[@maximusfuscus]

I would prefer my GL350 Bluetec. All of what the Touareg has plus the mighty diesel.

[@andybroer651]

My VW Touareg has center and rear diff lock... so pretty much locked in

[@JSmooVE3990]

I'm really jealous of the deal you got on this car.

[@hansherrman5147]

I like the VW, but there was no hard offroading, in Germany we call ways like this Flurbereinigungsweg and I drive on them nearly every day with my rav4

[@leggoman1000]

Disco all the way. Experience suggests it'll still be bashing around the bush long after the VW is no longer financially viable to repair

[@jonhubbard5787]

Land Cruiser if you want to make it back home.

[@jmaugans73]

I'd say Toyota is best to guarantee your return home. Both these are mechanical nightmares.

[@AoyagiAichou]

Doubt this comparison would work with the latest Disco and the latest Touareg. Also no mud - not the best test. Undercarriage protection is also key.

[@m-at-the-w142]

I literally cannot find another car to move onto after owning a T-reg. I can't find anything that is quite as good at just about everything. ::::EDIT:::: I AM wondering, however, how it compares to the 2014 Range Rover Sport in versatility.

[@kdwh]

there is a very rare version gen 1 touareg with a spare tire carrier

[@shitloveaduck]

Fun video. You are doing very well Tommy and the fact I went “Nooooooo” when the video was suddenly done, says a lot! I’m kind of a grumpy older guy with a slight level of disdain for millennials, everyone gets a fair chance, that’s the way I am but I’m also soon disappointed. You are young enough I think of you as the New Millennial and you’re so easy to listen to now. I could sit down with you and have a serious conversation, my nephews your approximate age, not so much (I’ll leave it at that! Haha). The Discovery performed as expected and looked like more fun. The VW went, ho hum, just another day,,,,,,. Looked easy but not as much off-road fun, so to speak. The exception to the fun factor was when the drivers front tire was 2 and a half feet, off the ground!! That was what the Jeep driver saw just before he complimented you and the VW. Would have been an awesome camera view as well. The fact the VW does what it does in street tires! I keep wanting to see a more aggressive tire on it (doubt there is a true off-roading tire that size) but at the same time want to see the absolute limit for these crappy street tires. I have always disliked the H/L s from Bridgestone. Keep it up! Love to see what’s next! You and the team please play safe! Eh!

[@williemakit8931]

I'd prefer C: The Samurai. Which, by the way, where is it? Did I miss something?

[@TFLcar]

Nathan purchased it from the company. He's upgrading it now.

[@williemakit8931]

@@TFLcar A personal reply from a channel. That's only the second time that's happened to me. Anywho, I hope it makes an appearance on TFL again. Im jealous and I love that little thing.

[@japopo5533]

Dam it would be cool see what he has done to the samurai since the last time we saw it video

[@LucasLeCompteMusic]

Cummins swap for the samurai?

[@williemakit8931]

@@LucasLeCompteMusic Although a 4bt would be interesting, I disagree in this particular case

[@takeomack2782]

Fantastic video! Thank you sir!!!

[@eppyz]

And the VW is using all season tires. This shouldn't be possible 😮

[@scott907]

When the land Rover starts seeming economical you know you are in deep

[@chuckcribbs3398]

Not exactly off road tires yet the VW did great.

[@ryanclark600]

Land Rover disco hands down

[@NissanR33Ztune]

you know you can help them buy adding some breaking while adding gas when they start to free spin....

[@AlexisDelatolas]

Touareg... It has street tires and less articulation but still had much less wheel spin! Pretty disappointed with the Land Rover... It takes 2-3 seconds to figure out the wheels are spinning. I wouldn't trust it :/

[@mi16t]

Alexis Delatolas its called locked diffs, landrover is clearly open diff

[@billz4795]

to bad VW didn't stick to the original concept of an off road capable some what luxury SUV. They took the V10 off road racing and did well. Marketing and price killed it in North America. Diesel gate certainly didn't help . PROVES it could go head to head with a ROVER The European model is beautiful not sure how off capable it is.

[@deeppers69]

Arb lockers for the disco! ~$1200 for both. Then it would be unstoppable and a normal person can fix most things on it too!

[@bartismoellis1052]

deeppers69 But it still blows head gaskets on the regular will always leave oil spots on the driveway and we won’t even talk about the brits and electoral

[@weekendwarrior8179]

I want to put my lifted KL with 31" Ko2s against the volkswagon. I think we have the same or very close amount of ground clearance.

[@_litersofw]

Imagine a be toureg with the v10 tdi off road

[@jerrodcorey25]

Throw some K02's or decent Mud Terrain's on that VW and become UNSTOPPABLE ! ! 1 vote for Toureg Off-Road

[@4wdsome444]

As a vw performance engineer I love watching Americans be impressed with these things, it was literally designed to be the best stock off-roader from factory and it was it was also in top spec designed to be the most comfortable, and in testing it made mince meat of rangerovers and Cadillacs at the time, and in escape trim it had low range, air suspension, and three locking diffs In Euro spec you get a full size spare and an air compressor The clucking is due to the air bag reaching maximum drop there is about 3mm of give

[@kubanskiloewe]

piece of shit

[@jh5kl]

@@kubanskiloewe yes you are

[@Yoda496]

in escape trim, didn't the vw touareg also have quick disconnectable sway bars?

[@rob327c]

Can the minimum ride height of them be lowered with a vcds like how the cayenne can?

[@discoverlight]

Next video should be your VW vs the 2020 Touareg. 🙏🏾

[@MichaelMiller-rg6or]

Unfortunately, we don't get the 2020 Touareg anymore.

[@yannickukatz4086]

Michael Miller Maybe the Atlas🤔

[@krane15]

A totally different vehicle. Improved luxury but no longer a rock climber.

[@krane15]

@@MichaelMiller-rg6or For Americans the Touareg did not compute.

[@Agent77X]

Not available in the U.S. anymore. The 2020 Touareg is quite the looker too!

[@stephenmoxley3004]

That VW is really impressive! With better tires and some skid plates, it would probably go anywhere. Keep up the good work.

[@VladoooThe]

Brits always: "nothing off-roads like a land rover" Reality: a lifted, modified, big tired discovery just got smoked off-road by a completely stock, unibody crossover with minivan tires....

[@joelsharman5964]

A defender would kill that thing off road

[@VladoooThe]

@@joelsharman5964 Don't think so. Stock for stock, they would be evenly matched. But the VW is much more luxurious and refined on road.

[@supergearhead152]

You're talking about a Land Rover without a rear locker with a traction control system designed in the 90's. A better comparison would be between the 1st gen Touareg and a Discovery 3/LR3 or early Range Rover Sport with the rear locker both of which perform incredibly well(and very similar) stock and the Terrain Response traction control system is vastly better than the system in the Disco II and P38(which is why both Ford and BMW ripped it off their own watered down versions for their own cars when they owned LR)

[@yannickpds8910]

I have approx 15 years of raid, off road, around Europe and Africa, and Im telling you that a Land Rover, a Toyota or a Mitsubishi can't be beaten by a crossover in REAL off road condition ! Here, with a Duster 2WD it's possible to climb... The driver put volontary in difficult the Land Rover and choose different line to climb ! Im sorry, this test is wrong

[@eddgrs9193]

Soccer moms have high standards.

[@KYoss68]

Tommy the VW spare inflates to full size.. just try it out. It's very clever.

[@DEEuroworks]

KYoss68 wow, really? Amazing car, love the Touareg.

[@janozkk]

German Engineering, the 1998 to 2005 Mercedes SLK have that amazing inflatable spares too

[@sailingspark9748]

I had a 70s Porsche with the inflatable spare. I never had to use it as I did not have the car long, but it was an interesting answer to putting a full size spare in a small car

[@guyod1]

One of the many benefits of having on board air compressor

[@michieljames737]

They were also released in Sub-Saharan countries with the rear mounted spare wheel. Looking very much the part for an proper offroader.

[@josephwhiskeybeale]

If they’re both running by the end of the video I’d consider it a win.

[@spedracer55]

LOL

[@Smicky20]

Joseph Whiskey Beale 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrJcjet]

🤣🤣🤣

[@abrahamestrada2206]

I see this as an absolute win

[@lisminircstudio974]

I use my gl500 off road for over 10years still good

[@gumbie05]

The first generation Touaregs were one of the BEST SUVS made in the 15 years!! 👍

[@carholic-sz3qv]

you mean one of the BEST GERMAN SUV made in the 15 years

[@hEXordo]

Le Chat Botté first gen mercedes ml were no joke, body on frame

[@The_Hi_Life]

Yes, way better than the 2nd gens, 4 sure!

[@krane15]

Unforgettably, Americans don't buy their SUV to go off-road. Which is why the vehicle failed so miserably here in the States.

[@krane15]

@@carholic-sz3qv One of the best vehicles ever. It was, in fact, the best combination of all things road worthy. No other vehicles has ever done as much before or after for the price.

[@JesusRodriguez-tm8go]

You could option a full size spare tire mounted on the hatchback on the vw

[@dzelpwr]

In Europe, sure. Don't see too many of them equipped as such in the U.S.

[@JesusRodriguez-tm8go]

@@dzelpwr you don't see that many equipped that way in Spain either, but you see some.

[@dzelpwr]

@@JesusRodriguez-tm8go, I'm not sure I've ever seen one in the U.S. equipped that way, but I've had other people swear up and down they've seen them repeatedly. *shrug* pc: the spare might inflate close enough to full size, but it's not very tough nor does it have decent tread to help get you back home if you're doing off-roading. A proper full size conventional spare that matches the tires you have on the vehicle would be a much better thing to have for any kind of off roading.

[@thesmallguy6613]

In South Africa a full size spare is pretty standard... it’s on a swing arm that opens to the side for access to the hatch.

[@motiszm]

@@dzelpwr I own a touareg in the US and one day saw another one with the spare on the hatch.... up until then I didn't know it was an option! Looked it up and it's ridiculously expensive to do a rear spare mount conversion with factory parts lol.

[@dulos69]

I've been hating this VW since the beginning, until now. What an impressive wonderful car! I can't believe it keep up with the Land Rover! Respect!

[@DasBoot83]

Also, the Touareg donut actually inflates to a full-size tire. That's the main purpose of the air hose and inflator.

[@savagetuner2404]

Nicholas Helfrich now that’s cool.

[@DasBoot83]

@@savagetuner2404 for sure! Every day I find new ways they overengineered the Touareg. Fortunately have never had to see the spare work in person!

[@savagetuner2404]

Nick Helfrich unfortunate they didn’t put this engineering in Audi so it would have a badge connected to the engineering.

[@Nirvanist16]

Can you guys compare VW with Lexus GX 470 same year made? They are both luxurious and both have an air suspension

[@Crashryding]

Alexandr Panteleev you want to compare a spec’d up LandCruiser Prado 120-150 model against a Tuareg?? Look up 150 series Prado off-road on KZbin.......nonce

[@CFG39]

The original Touareg was a monster off road. The locking diffs, air suspension and 4.2L V8 were phenomenal compared to just about every other car at that time. It just needed a couple of skid plates and better tires to be unstoppable. I wish TFL could’ve gotten their hands on an LR3 V8 with the locking rear diff instead of the last year model D2. Even to this day, the original Touareg is still a great looking SUV. I always wanted a V8 or V10 TDI Touareg in that greenish-Gray color you have with the beige interior.

[@williamparker7823]

I had an 05 touareg for a bit. It was a love hate affair. That 4.2 is a peach but it needed a thermostat which was behind the timing belt, which needed a lot of the front end off. Finding one with a rear locker is difficult too.

[@yuzeyang8847]

@@williamparker7823 I think chain driven version is more reliable. Yes, there is no way to find a Touareg with rear diff. Been looking this machine for years with no luck

[@ronaldreed7698]

The 4.2 v8 is a nice engine but the w-8 intrigues me.

[@beerbeforebreakfast]

My stock LR3 no locker with stock tires makes lifted moded Jeeps look goofy. I can drive home in luxury and silence after going anywhere i want!

[@CFG39]

Ronald Reed The W8 was very interesting in the Passat, especially with the 6mt, but it was an utter disaster to work on and really didn't make all that much power. The complexity of a W engine is hard to match.

[@saturndesigns2339]

I guess the T is the best off-roader now

[@billjackson5349]

I have a V10 and I drive to Denver and Ft Collins to visit friends frequently if you would like to take a look at one.

[@savagetuner2404]

Bill Jackson are you part of the armed forces?

[@billjackson5349]

@@savagetuner2404 retired

[@savagetuner2404]

Bill Jackson god bless you sir. Thank you so much for your service

[@billjackson5349]

@@savagetuner2404 Thanks man.

[@ExTrumpet]

Thanks for making the value of old Touaregs go up 30%!!

[@eazyfabrizi]

I have worked for both companies. The Disco 2 is one of the worst vehicles in the world to own. From cylinder liners that crack and the head gasket failures alone would make me run for the hills. Also the front driveshaft failures in the discos are ridiculous and when the fail will smash the bell housing on the trans to pieces. You would be lucky to keep one on the road for 100,000 miles. The VW is hands down the better vehicle and I would trust it way more than the Disco. The air suspension rarely fails in that chassis. The engine, the 4.2 as long as the oil is changed 5,000 to 10,000 miles the chain failure is a rarity and is way better. If you are a diy'er the Vw is a better vehicle and more robust. Get some better shielding for the underside and better tires and it will destroy the Disco hands down. Oh and the LR3 rear diff bearing failures are common, wiring, lack of power out of the 4.4 and lower control arm failures would make the LR3 way less reliable. They also have wheel bearing failures constantly. At best the land Rover is an anemic British design that is sold as robust.

[@jerrodcorey25]

That Toureg is a BEAST OFF-ROAD ! ! PERIOD. THE END

[@mountainhobo]

When it's not in the shop being repaired.

[@savagetuner2404]

mountainhobo haha good one buddy but it doesn’t have the v10. This is more reliable than a Toyota Camry

[@mountainhobo]

(1) I am not your buddy. (2) VW is crap and only mechanics love it. (3) If you think Touareg is more reliable than a Toyota Camry, you need to up your health insurance because mental asylums are expensive.

[@MrJcjet]

@Peder Hansen it's not hype. People actually keep track of these things. The VW is an order of magnitude more likely to break down per mile. There's a reason you'll never see one in Australia or Africa. They're horrendously unreliable.

[@mountainhobo]

" it`s mostly internet hype" -- ROFL.

[@garyblatt8925]

OMG! What an OUTRAGE!!! Oh wait. sorry the dyslexia kicked in and it really is just a very capable Touareg.

[@ponderinggeek7861]

Please do a Touareg vs. Land Cruiser with you and Roman.... 🙏

[@MrJcjet]

This! And do some 50mph whoops! Can the toureg suspension handle heat?

[@q80aziz]

I would choose the Touareg in that comparison . However, fast forward a bit and the ( Discovery) LR 3/ 4 wins hands down particularly in off road situations with either the 4.0 V6 or the 5.0 V8 .