The Cold Hard Truth about real wheels vs. reps (Donut Media won't tell you this)

[@Wedge_lord]

“Ugliest abominations ever to turn on an axis” sounds like something a Roman general wrote about his enemies’ chariots.

[@Marzimus]

Or the Aztec.

[@layth116]

that line did it for me 😭 Netgear truly has a way with words

[@GTChucker86]

Or Roman from RCR, i can totally imagine him saying that

[@anydaynow01]

@@GTChucker86 Oh heck yeah, CCF and RCR spit nothing but truth!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Sounds like my friend at school who had a green candy paint MX-6 with chrome Niche wheels... He was a fun dude but yesh, he became a DJ, full time.

[@RGT85]

And don't buy any wheels under 26 inches. DONK LYFE. (I don't own a Donk. But one day.)

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Kek

[@KidNato]

Hey look! A Nintendo KZbinr!

[@spont24]

crazy seeing you in a comment section again lmao, last time it was an rxknephew song

[@hellbent650]

I don't like him. He's a rich man's 8 bit loser eric.

[@OpenYoutEyes-m1c]

Nah man, hell to tha fuck no... Donk is just cope. Get a clown car instead.

[@pierresauve8612]

People are also stuck in the past. There are certain brands that were lesser quality that in the last decade have really stepped it up, for example Konig

[@natedostalik3538]

And motegi

[@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS]

And Rota

[@OGbrundle]

+1 Rota. Also, don't quote me but I remember reading a while back that a lot of Rotas are made in the Enkei factory? Am I crazy or is that correct

[@iCleanUp]

@@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARSehhhhhh, No. not Rota

[@resignator]

Konig actually fucking rock now. Like them far better than my old Enkei ts9. Didnt need 4lbs of weights to balance them either :P

[@perplexed2352]

Funnily enough i get the real vs rep argument on track/skid cars as yeah the more expensive set is probably gonna take more abuse than the set thats $400 less, but half the people who care about the real vs rep argument to the extremes are stance kids who barely see the highway let alone a track, then blame reps breaking cause of poor quality, totally has nothing to do with the fact they stretched a 155 tire onto a 265 wheel and did a suspension travel delete two weeks prior. There are plenty of really good quality companies who make great "real" wheels and then take someone else's design and copy it cause the classics always sell doesnt mean they sacrifice quality

[@nukeout8555]

Finally someone else that knows the rest of the story

[@chb2live]

I love how asymmetrical your face is netgear!

[@T03L3G]

Jfc 😂 😂💀

[@racebndt]

subtle roast

[@trundlepufpendants]

😂😂😂😂

[@pasteghost428]

Just remember that people from his planet think you look pretty weird too.

[@alanmendoza3742]

lmao

[@myon-]

edging to this tonight

[@redheadmetalhead247]

Please never stop these one on one, hard truth videos, Netgear.

[@hellbent650]

It feels like he is looking into my eyes and talking directly to me. Now take off your shirt and play volleyball ball. I'll throw money at your sweaty body.

[@NiccoDiazDesigns]

I buy rep wheels because I'm cheap not because I'm broke.

[@L8-APEX]

And as long as you're not trying to claim their authentic "real" wheels, there is no problem with that. And most likely you'd never even notice a difference either.

[@asambi69]

I'd never buy reps, I've seen too many accidents caused because of them, You hit a bump and they smash to pieces and throw you into on coming traffic.

[@callmeasshole]

Because you're cope

[@shiikon2193]

that’s not something you should cheap out on if you do any kind of performance driving

[@john_toss]

@@L8-APEX imma buy replica sneakers and claim they real

[@adamg5252]

People buy what they can afford. When I had less disposable income I ran reps, then when I could afford more I bought genuine. Now I have multiple sets of reps and genuine wheels. But if I wanted new wheels I wouldn't naturally just gravitate towards genuine or strictly look at reps. I'd buy what I like and what I actually think the wheels are worth. Not everyone wants to dump 3-4k on a set of wheels, especially if the car is a weekender/toy.

[@alphatrion100]

I make alot more than i used to but i still don't spend that much. I want the money 🤑🤑🤑

[@boreas_rt1667]

What is also noteworthy is that in some EU countries where you need a certification on your wheels, reps are the only way to go because the proper company didn't bother to get them certified.

[@yourfirsthouseinminecraft4531]

If you had bread though couldn't you import some from another country?

[@f1fan3000]

​@@yourfirsthouseinminecraft4531 The import cost+import wheel is oftentimes far more expensive than the domestic wheel. For example, in Germany, you'll need to find a TÜV engineer who is willing to do an individual approval of the wheel first, which is not that easy. Then you'll have to pay more money for this individual approval. A domestic rep wheel, which is TÜV certified for general use on your vehicle, is cheaper and can just be installed and instantly legally driven on your stock car, when the paper doesn't include any special obligations. You just have to carry the papers in your car. These TÜV-certified rep wheels are safe too, as their material strength has been tested by the TÜV. That at least, is roughly the situation in Germany. Don't know about other EU countries.

[@R-SXX]

​@@f1fan3000this is the reason why I sold my mx5 (among other things of course) - but the mx only has a ton of awesome aftermarket stuff that is extremely expensive because no part comes with tüv certificates. It was my corona project car and sold it for 5k (bought it for 2k) but I had some grand plans that I could have never realized with all the certification and expenses they come with.

[@fireexe109]

​@@yourfirsthouseinminecraft4531 You'd still have to get them certified which means buying multiple sets to pass multiple material tests since the company couldn't be bothered to do it

[@elfalcon666]

I love these style vids and it gives Netgear something to do while his wife is with her boyfriend

[@CabbageSniffer]

Wheels are one of the strange things where there's such a huge variety of taste out there. Tire stretch, offset, wide wheels, big or small wheels, different colors and styles. So many combos

[@Kev27RS]

Yet people put the same wheels on their cars nowadays… There’s no variety!

[@helloitsanthony]

Solid video. As a person who has purchased many "real wheels" NEW, Advan Racing, Volk Racing, and Enkei Racing wheels. I can confidently say... I do not care if you're on reps. You're not better for owning real wheels and you aren't taking away money from the likes of Mackin Industries, or Enkei... Enkei is the largest OEM manufacturer of wheels, MST Suzuka's are not taking away market share for RPF1s. Mackin is the largest aftermarket wheel manufacturer, they are not worried about Rota copying them. Also, I want to highlight something I find extremely interesting. Between my te37SL, advan rsIII and enkei rpf1 all three sets feel the same when I park and drive on the street and they feel the same on track, Which says something because it's two different companies and 3 different brands & designs. News flash !!!! race tracks don't have potholes, they're smooth, maintained surfaces. If you break a wheel on track it's because you hit a curb too hard, or dropped a tire off track and hit a curb... or god forbid crashed into someone driving or a barrier (all 3 wheels weigh roughly the same therefore they feel the same, I never put on brand name wheels and instantly went faster around the track lol). But the same tech in your RPF1 is in your gram lights, and Advan wheels... is in your Konigs and Motegi racing wheels. This "flow-formed" rotary forging process is accessible all over the world (in terms of wheel brand names)... just cuz its a rep doesn't mean anything, technology is technology regardless of brand... they aren't going to explode, the second you hit a small bump. Race tracks will break any wheel, forged or not... and let's be real... You're not actually tracking the way you want the internet to think so chances are you aren't going to break anything unless make a big mistake. To make my last point. the only people who have ever cared about whether or not I have a real or rep wheel and arguably the only people who give a damn are the dorks at your cars and coffee/dog water parking lot meet at night and show car judges. But having reps will not immediately disqualify you from a trophy. Run what you can afford and what fits your aesthetic, simple as that it's a community. There are pro drift drivers running xxr's on their car... not once has a wheel exploded from drifting on track. Reps aren't garbage, the only thing that's garbage is that mindset of "you NEED to own real wheels". Go have fun with your car and do what you want, and if you dont like what someone has done, dont do it to your own car, plain and simple.

[@Justin-wheels]

As someone who owns both real and rep TE37s. I could care less if someone has "real" wheels unless they claim that the reps they are on are real. Especially because 90% of the cars you see at a show or meet never get tracked anyway

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Claiming reps as real is the ultimate cope

[@Kev27RS]

Yeah, and 90% of the cars at a show run the same type of wheels anyway… TE37, RPF-1, MEISTER S1 and REGAMASTER… That plus the replicas of those mentioned wheels.

[@802Garage]

Finally someone who isn't a moron on this topic. Most people using the term reps don't even know what they mean. Companies that started out making "reps" make some of the best wheels on the market. I'm the type of person that would legitimately rather run Konig Dekagram or Hexaform, both using the same flow forming tech Enkei uses on the RPF-1, than a lot of "real" wheels. Why would I want to pay $1,000 per wheel so that I can be afraid of the tire shop ruining them or scratching them on road debris when I can pay $150-250 per wheel and get the same weight and still good looks? To me, value is a consideration in what I but. I couldn't give less of a damn about posing and bragging something was expensive. At any rate, there are surely wheels to avoid, but most of the aftermarket is perfectly acceptable for daily driving or even track use. A lot of the popular real wheels truly are ugly too. Oh, and Zendaya is gorgeous IDK what you are on about there. IDC much about celebrities in general either though.

[@theonlydiego1]

Even is sneaker culture a “reps” mean replica which is a shoe you know you bought counterfeit and you don’t care if it’s real. Now what’s stupid is when two shoe companies make similar shoes and call one a rep. The Nike sb dunk and New Balance 550 are the same basketball ball shoe, but calling one a “rep” isn’t the right choice of word.

[@FranzJx]

are RPF 1s really worth the lightness when Juan Carlos just hooked it up for an esse... 4 steel wheels with good tires for $170... the lightness can be found elsewhere. (note this is for a scion xB)

[@CollectorCarFeed]

If it works it works, but speaking of Work, Equip 01s look insane on an xB

[@larry_fisherman-s7k]

Franz is a CCF enjoyer??

[@sIytendencies]

WhaT THE F** franz I was just watching you?? You know what you got? You watch CCF?

[@Kev27RS]

RPF1 are so overused nowadays! Can’t stand those wheels anymore. The same for TE37…

[@ck17350]

Aside from the tire, what other place are going to find lightness on a wheel? Custom valve stems? Like, what are you even talking about?

[@oldmanloki]

fake parts break hearts 💔

[@Carlos.Rivera]

But save banks😂

[@Und34d_R]

They also put companies out of business.

[@plav032]

I'm getting half of my FC's turbo setup from diesel trucks so... Its real to someone 🤣

[@ParkerOviedo]

They break the hearts of the people who bought the expensive shit 😂

[@willzibub]

Just run factory wheels or used wheels from smn with the same bolt pattern. They’re really cheap and a lot better quality than reps

[@thecloud1432]

Sometimes factory fitment is goofy tho lol

[@fn2s145]

OEM+ life. Take from the good models

[@trundlepufpendants]

​@@fn2s145yup running TL enkeis on the wifes rsx with BBK. Decent fitment even w/stock ride height

[@rushnerd]

Nothing wrong with factory, but I have to admit after I started getting into wheels, I dislike almost all OEM options. Some are WAY better than others, but almost universally they are all chunky and fairly bland. Heavily depends what you are doing of course, but wheels absolutely make the car.

[@slosubies4845]

For saving money, OEM+ is always the best place to start.

[@bluesboytyler]

Trying to decide if forcing myself to like the stock wheels on my car is a cope or good financial decision (it's a cope 😢)

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

There's nothing wrong with staying stock and saving for the wheel you really want

[@henlo1910]

Idk personally I like to stay stock unless the stock wheels are heavy ass steelies

[@justis1779]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 I'm staying with stock so I can buy a big turbo kit

[@r.i.m8283]

Same here but I caved in ( I won't smile and my account balance for a long time )

[@reallydawg5987]

Just get the better stocks for your car if they were a option or be like me and put 370z wheels on my G

[@Philippe44]

Dude the mx5 hardtop with the smaller rpf1s is FIRE

[@silversurfer420]

The only channel I press play on 13 seconds after the upload. Thanks for the based takes my virtual car friend!

[@howieewalt1322]

See the thing is, it really comes down to what kind of car you drive, and what you drive it for. I'm not putting any kind of wheels on my beater Civic/Door dash mobile. I DID put nice 17" Raceline (not a crazy performance brand) wheels on my cherry mint 1996 84k miles Ford Thunderbird that I cherish and guard with my life. They aren't crazy but they fill the wheel wells, flow with the body and make the Forest Green metallic paint pop. I'm not putting a performance wheel on a 215hp 4k LBS land yacht that drives me to the beach and back during the summer.

[@slosubies4845]

Good point. Know the purpose and buy to fill that purpose within your means. Putting expensive wheels on a cheap car is a dumb flex; a better car on oem wheels is still a better car.

[@Pupper0ni]

Happy Friday Papa Netgear 🥃

[@racebndt]

classist video!

[@john_toss]

Get a cls63 foo

[@racebndt]

@@john_toss i gotta get rich like nutqueer

[@slosubies4845]

Well said. I love the look of TE37s, but for my daily-drive Impreza (that will never see competitive racing) I went with the Avid-1 AV06. Same look, decent quality and weight. If I planned to track my car, I'd probably go function over form and get the lightest, strongest wheels I could afford - or run the best tires that fit on the oem wheels - rather than reps. What wasn't mentioned in this video is that there are varying levels of quality among the replica wheel manufacturers, although I realized this video is about the pecking-order in the car community rather than a technical overview. Many "reps" are just fine on the street, while some are just downright crap and therefore dangerous if you live anywhere near potholes. I don't subscribe to "respect all builds" but I don't see any reason to put down people who bought cheaper wheels, as long as they know what they have and are using them within the scope of their design.

[@Kev27RS]

TE37s are so overused nowadays! So many people who own a Japanese brand car, run those wheels. Either the real models or some replicas… I can’t stand those wheels anymore! There’s so many nice wheels out there!

[@rushnerd]

Yeah, I almost went for reps for my Supra and even almost did rep Wanatabes. But the guys on the Supra forum talked me out of it and I bought made-to-order Enkei's (Pf09's they are way more than I needed and did Px-10's on my Celica, $1K diff) instead. It was absolutely the right call. Very very few people have my wheels and they are really damn nice. You cannot beat original wheels made in Japan. Worth the money. I actually could have gotten Wanatabes, but getting the Enkeis+Michelin PS4 S for the same price was a much better option IMO.

[@Whateva67]

I bought a set of 5 gunmetal PX 10s for my 14 Civic coupe and they look awesome. I ordered Enkei forged lug nuts from Nengun performance in Japan as well. I always order 5 wheels just in case I curb one and they’re hard to find in the future.

[@Kev27RS]

Good decision 👍 for not choosing RPF1 wheels like everyone does nowadays…

[@OxRockwell]

Netgear, as always, the most based representative of CCF. Shout out to you sir, because of CCF I recognize keeping it stock improves the resale value. This channel is a huge part of the reason I really dig OEM wheel swaps. Love this channel, keep up the great work and I'll keep sharing the content. 👍🏻✌🏻

[@MartiniWorksOfficial]

Well said! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Come play Cars Against Humanity, blud

[@thecloud1432]

What people should really be concerned about is running wheels that are made of chinese aluminum that will crack if the wind blows on them the wrong way. Plenty of cheap options out there besides Enkei that still have good quality. Motegi and Konig to name a couple.

[@resignator]

Got some Konig Hypergrams in race bronze. Had on some Enkei TS9s before but got tired of the black wheels on a black car. Only a 5mm diff on the offset but the Konigs are half the weight. The difference in handling and rideability are like night and day. Cant speak highly enough of Konig for entry level.

[@RogueCowTurd]

and advanti, well and truly proven to be a light weight, strong and affordable competitive option at autocross

[@MRpickleYandR]

@@resignatorI’m running Konig Rennforms in gun metal grey. 5/5 would buy again

[@Kev27RS]

@@resignator "Black wheels on a black car". Yeah, you should have never put them on the car to begin with. Fully blacked out cars look like this: www.gamersheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/How-To-Collect-Barn-Finds-In-Forza-Horizon-5.jpg

[@Billy_Built]

Man this absolutely needed to be said! Majority of people nowadays that bash on rep wheels while barely affording real wheels, and the rest of their car falling apart... Buy the real wheels sheerly for bragging rights. Been saying it for a hot minute!

[@idoesthis4805]

I buy reps because I am broke and I want to improve the look for my own sake. I hope people will say, "nice car, but its on reps." Good enough for me.

[@Flying_Fetus]

Love my TeeHees they look terrific and allowed me to run 205/50R15s on my Miata and get the stance I wanted. I could've bought TE37s, but chose a turbo kit instead. I don't track the car and mostly baby it when I do take it out. Thanks Net, I'll join the club one day, but putting $3,000 wheels on a $4,000 car seemed, I dunno the word for it. Especially for 4 lugs that probably won't fit my next car. Advan wheels on a 2.5RS/22B replica would be tits though.

[@doxfire]

I bought a set of Varrstoen ES2's because I liked the look of wheel and it looked great on my car, could I have bought a real set of TE37's? Yes, but at the time it would've been a bad financial move considering I was not making as much money at the time. I got the look I wanted, if people asked what they were I told them they were Varrstoen's because I am not worried about "fitting in" and just wanted my car to look good to me. The main thing is people who have the money will say buying reps are dumb and people who buy reps will say buying a $4k+ set of wheels is dumb, finding common ground is probably never going to happen. At the end of the day, we all like cars, we all want our car or cars to look good and how you go about it is ultimately personal choice and that's all that matters.

[@dmacarthur5356]

That Zendaya comment. Effing gold.

[@resignator]

She's not even a mid. I dont fucking get it, either.

[@th3ch33t]

​@@resignatorIf I were in the dating market, and she was one of the choices, I would choose another girl.

[@TheHobbyExpert]

Sorry she’s not fully white but she’s also kinda beautiful

[@th3ch33t]

@@TheHobbyExpert What makes you think that has anything to do with it? Is race the first thing you notice when looking at someone?

[@dmacarthur5356]

@@TheHobbyExpert🥱

[@Garagefoxx]

As someone who has had reps on their Miata, I will say this.. and I feel like this goes for basically all replica parts. The only reason why people would buy them, is because they couldn’t afford any better. As Netgear said, thats totally fine. I understand why people would buy cheap suspension parts and wheels for a handed down, crusty Civic. But especially over here, seeing people toss JapanRacing wheels or Rotas onto brand new AMGs or M cars just makes me mad. Its no different to putting a GTR badge on your GTST. The second hand market does exist. Saving up also is an option. And I sure do know that it was a good feeling when I then finally did have my hands on those Equips c:

[@Kev27RS]

Good comment! I agree!

[@Ramkakh]

Here in Chile, since our car culture is very small, we use reps even in federated events (National FIA licence required). In my trackday/daily car but I couldn't find one. Wheels are pretty expensive even for people with money to race here. I ended up with some white Spork Chinamaster that I use carefully on track and on my commuting, knowing that they are not the best and they need care.

[@802Garage]

Interesting insight! I'd much rather run reps at the track so I don't lose $1,000 for a tiny incident hahaha.

[@when8076]

In certain parts of earth legit wheels ( or any accessory actually ) would sometimes cost more than the car itself, so reps kinda became a necessity and actually SOME of them are really really good quality

[@greenlavaproductions]

Years ago I bought set of Work CR Kais that one was curbed and by curbed I mean I questioned how it held air. I rode those for over a year until I found some other used forged wheels. It is unbelievable how much of a difference eight pounds in each corner makes.

[@claytonoldzkool2604]

The main reason I run reps is because it makes sense… I don’t park up and look at my car.. I drive it. And when driving hard happens, sometimes you mess up or clip a car or a kerb or some concrete edging ,depends on what track you’re at.. anyway it cost about $200 for a new fake TE37. I don’t know who’s saying a rep is better, but I got 4 cars and I ain’t buying genuine for the track cars. Everything has its place, and reps have a huge place, I’m stoked they exist!..

[@Kev27RS]

Real or fake TE37, they’re all overused nowadays! There’s nothing special about them anymore! Almost every person that owns a Japanese brand car runs those wheels nowadays. If not TE37, then it’s RPF1, MEISTER S1 or REGAMASTER…

[@claytonoldzkool2604]

Haha ain’t that the truth!… They’ve all been hammered pretty hard, after all they are all wheels from the 90z so it’s not surprising.. Not that you could tell by the price of Works Meisters, they’re still so expensive here in Australia! I do have a newer 3ltr turbo bmw I try different wheels occasionally, but tbh I see them on fellow beemaz.. ahhh you can’t win! I don’t have a “dream wheel”.. I can think of a cpl cars though!…

[@Kev27RS]

@@claytonoldzkool2604 Well, yes they are wheels from 20 - 25 years ago but there are so many other nice wheels by RAYS, ENKEI, WORK, ADVAN etc. from that period of time, yet people decide to put those same type of wheels (TE37, RPF1, MEISTER S1 or REGAMASTER EVO) on their cars nowadays… That’s all you see at car shows / meets these days. Even on social media. If not the real model from Japan, then it’s some replicas by JAPAN RACING, XXR, COSMIS, ROTIFORM, FIFTEEN52 etc.. People should be more creative and original with their wheel choice instead of following the crowd! 😉

[@henrysutulovich6608]

the VF KS, looks like a torque thrust, those looks like a Cragar... A knock-off of a knock-off.....

[@johnnyflashtattoo]

The most "real talk" on this subject. Perfectly said. #well-spoken

[@TheMarlboro-Man]

Yall selling that KYS shirt ?

[@phantomflame0658]

I want one I'd pay good money for it lmfao

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Restock "SOON"

[@phantomflame0658]

@@CollectorCarFeed BIG

[@Pupper0ni]

@@phantomflame0658..if true.

[@jamesbashaw5831]

Damn, I didn't expect Netgear to drop class analysis on us. Love it!

[@RC-zr8ph]

In a perfect world, I just want a super light wheel that is indistinguishable from the stock wheel

[@RogueCowTurd]

Like Wheels make a flow formed "steelie" type of wheel which looks good on some cars and is obviously pretty light weight i think bridgestone makes a similar wheel but way more expensive. i heard a company is starting to make flow formed "daisies" that came on NA miatas but in a 15x8 rather than a 15x6 or whatever they were originally

[@purpleguy6973]

Well said bro, though I would argue that reps have their place on track/purpose built cars where it’s apparent that it’s gonna be beaten on, and there’s really no appeal to dust a $2500 set of forged wheels on a rwd daily that occasionally sees a track or canyon day, and will inevitably get totalled. It’s an uninsured purchase that doesn’t retain value, and their survivability is at the whim of a single unlucky pothole or in my case, a chunk of asphalt. I’d continue to argue the singular benefit of buying real wheels is their construction; ie strength/weight, which is objectively superior and as you said, is never really argued. That being said, I think their place is more on stock/fbo daily builds, or serious, dedicated track vehicles in which the rotational mass actually matters, but besides those two applications, everything else in between doesn’t appeal to those benefits. People that complain about real wheels or reps cracking because their slammed shitbox on stretched rubber bands need to grow up, I absolutely agree, but simultaneously, I don’t think I’d ever buy real wheels again. In a saturated market, a solid set of un-scuffed reps can be anywhere from $400-1000, and I will spend that $1000+ I saved buying reps on parts that make a significantly more noticeable impact or gain, 100% of the time. I know the car is temporary, I know the wheels are temporary, they’re both gonna get beaten on and abused, and it’s never gonna be worth it to be to spend the extra couple Gs when that money could go into higher quality suspension, a better tune, a bigger turbo, preventive mods, etc, all of which will be significantly more beneficial to my goals as to something that’s ultimately a cosmetic difference with fractional weight savings. (And this is coming from having a completely gutted, fully built track car with a single carbon seat)

[@3EP0]

I think going on reps is fine unless you are running big HP cars and you do track racing, you are not only putting your life at risk but also the competitors and the track itself, rep wheels can really crack on a track when hitting a corner (It also includes rally jumps). If you race a stock 1.6/1.8 na/nb miata reps are fine, BUT if you LS swap it or put a big turbo, start thinking about some strong wheels and light weight wheels.

[@kanto20]

The answer is only buying 4-slot steel wheels

[@nooooooooooo6uoki67]

#steelienation

[@superseriooffical7314]

It's ok to cheap out sometimes, just don't convince yourself it's for the better

[@doublen9173]

I ran stocks for a while and genuinely liked them, but for Christmas my grandma offered to buy me a set of wheels I chose as long as I payed for the tires and I’m truly grateful, I picked bronze Konig lockouts for my dark blue gti and I had rpf1 konig reps on my nb Miata I know konig isn’t in that high class real wheel category but I’ve loved both sets in looks and they aren’t real rpf1 light but they’re lighter than stocks lol

[@SgtSnazzerino]

I always used to run different OEM wheels on my cars. I ran Integra LS webs on my EK, CD Accord 5 spokes on my CB7, and EK Civic HX alloys on my EF (the latter being one of the lightest rims Honda ever made)

[@johndavis9454]

I have a 2007 Honda Accord. The factory wheels are styled very close to the Einke wheel. Looks good on that sedan!

[@Dutch_Fake_Ferrari]

Going for the used market is a great way to get wheels on a budget. Just make sure the wheels are not bent and your good to go, you might be able to save some some budget for a new coating. It takes more effort, but really is rewarding.

[@GitGoodGaming]

As long as the wheel A.) Looks good, and B.) Can handle the speeds i plan to go without detonation. Than im happy and could care less.

[@Technotranceism]

I would rather see rep wheels that look good, than real wheels that look like garbage. Wheels should not only complement the vehicle, but ideally also be performance enhancing. Granted, showpiece wheels may not be performance enhancing, but it definitely better complement the vehicle. Way too many ugly wheels on vehicles lately, that doesn't do anything for the vehicle, other than look ugly.

[@SavageBluetick]

I just threw on some Avid1 AV20 wheels on my 23 wrx and love the look. Could I have used a credit card and bought some of my loftier choices? Yep. Would I prefer to enjoy my car and know I owe nothing on the car or any parts on it...also yep. I'm too old to give a crap about some kid's opinion of me. Great video and I agree completely. You do you and don't try to make me like ugly wheels.

[@OG-Silesian]

finally, you're the first youtuber who said the VSKF are ugly and they really ARE! a 5 spoke design with the outer side of the spoke being progressively larger than the center side is hideous

[@rinyotsu2.0]

I bought a set of MB crux at a junkyard because I was broke and needed tires asap. $360 for a full set on tires that had nearly new tread and under 1 year old. I was already searching and had a 3d printed version of my hub and they passed the test. Was it a gamble? Yes. Am I happy with them? Also yes

[@colchronic]

I have some avids because at the time I didn't know that TE37s were even a thing and I kind of just liked The look of them and they are on my streetcar and honestly I've driven over quite a bit of potholes and never had a problem not saying that they're better than any real wheels or anything like that or trying to cope in any way but I mean they work lol

[@righteoussoul2640]

Same thing happened to me. Bought my first set of wheel not knowing anything about reps. Just wanted something that looked good within a specific budget. But hey now I know. And I have zero regrets. Save myself a good chunk of change and bought myself quality tires instead 🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@kinocorner976]

My first pair of wheels were Enkei M52’s on my 1997 Ford Taurus SHO. They looked good for the car being a bathtub, especially I upgraded the suspension, rotors and brakes. I miss that car, it wasn’t breaking records. but it’s sound when you were on back roads. Obviously I was humble, I drove a late 90’s Ford.

[@GrahamTurismo]

I’ve come to learn over the years with trial and error that cheaping out on parts not only gives cheap results, but might even be more expensive because you’ll have to buy the same part twice. And when they break prematurely, you’ll have to do the same job twice. When you spend the extra money for the more established brand names, you’re spending extra money for the R&D that went into developing those parts for a specific outcome. Who cares if RPF1s are overrated, people like them for a reason. Maybe they’re not the most original choice of wheels, but they are amazing wheels for the price, offer great performance benefits with being so lightweight, and look great on almost any car.

[@kevinrulezdoooooood]

based as always net! keep that block hot!!!

[@GlycerinZ]

Lost a lot of respect for Donut after the whole mishap with the Subaru Hi/Lo - They don't know Subaru's very well and made Subaru look unnecessarily bad I'm currently running 18" ASA GT1s, mostly because they look like the OEM Subaru wheels, but bigger. They fit the car well.

[@RealAnthonyJones]

Buying reps for a non-show street-car isn’t cope it’s a good financial decision. Especially if the rep is made using the same method as the real wheel. Even if it isn’t the street can destroy any wheel if you aren’t paying attention and hit the right pothole. How do you think people crack their stock wheels with thick tires? If you have any sense of style you can pick a wheel that will look good on your car whether it’s real or a rep. Just like people who work 2 jobs to wear designer brands to impress people they don’t even like. That person in the car world is the person running a used set of real wheels on a complete pos car that barely has any other mods. The real wheel is their only way to seek validation from people who do not care about them the moment they drive out the parking lot. Buy what you like and use it for its intended purpose. Most important pay attention to what you are about to roll over so you don’t spend a ton of cash on your real wheels only to bend them to the point of not being repairable. Now you have to run 2 of them and two of your stock wheels because you can’t afford to replace just one. Making your car look even worse in the process to people who know nothing about the hobby aka most people…

[@Carvania]

In the first 100 lol. Now this is a brag but........ I am poor just got lucky once is all. Lol ,Anyway I own the dadrod magnum from hotrod garage. They put replica o.e hellcat wheels . One is bent. Remember folks u get what u pay for. Might look good in a video but won't run good on a daily. Love you guys. Keep it up.

[@FurryWrecker911]

My first and only set of aftermarket wheels are a set of TRM C4s. They're the Great Value of TE37s. 14 years of having a license and go figure the first and only time I've ever curbed a wheel was with those reps. After I was done kicking my own ass over it, I had the thought of "well thankfully they're reps and not real."

[@danielamenta5845]

Something tells me this guys hates eurolines

[@amfinc2]

Cragar 380s Rally II's? (on a modestly lowered c1500 short bed pick up?) 17'' to replace stock 15'' wheels. 8'' wide front, 9'' wide rear. Staggered tires, goodyear eagle rs-a's. Wheels are such a money sink though. I always end up using the money for other parts of the vehicle. Wheels feel like a finishing touch after all other aspects of the car are completed.

[@DisgustedHeart]

Bruh, the Johnny Got His Gun clip killed me.

[@john_toss]

Ngl I’d rather rep clothing and sneakers over rep wheels.

[@stussels]

value is a big factor for us broke boys. i put some civic hx wheels on my 94 integra because they were light and cheap and local. shame theyre only 14" but its oem size and the car is just a ls automatic.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I have fake RM's and a shady semi original Daytona for giggles but a tiffany nautilus, that's pushing it my dude.

[@qq444_]

i love just looking in netgears background. he really is just the uncle that shows up at family gatherings that you can always drink a beer with

[@patrickstover8766]

On this topic, would love one of these "one on one" vids talking about forged vs flow formed vs cast. Maybe a general guideline on weight by size, like what is "light" for a 17x9? I'm sure there could be other stuff like "how much offset is cringe" and "what is the latest model year you can put Watanabes on" and "will Regamasters get me a girlfriend". These videos are great though, thanks

[@Audi0Surferz]

My 17x9+22 LMGT4's are 16.5lbs. I believe that TE37s are the same, not sure about RPF1s. In my mind the lmgt4 is peak. Badass concave spokes, very light weight and look amazing in silver w/ the diamond cut and anodized finish.

[@resignator]

@@Audi0Surferz Konig Hypergrams 17x9s are 9lbs and under $200. Half the weight of those Enkeis and half the cost.

[@Audi0Surferz]

@@resignator Please go check your sources. Konig's website lists each wheels weight, 17x9 +25 is 18.46 lbs.

[@resignator]

@@Audi0Surferz Doh, you are right. Mine are 17lbs and change. Where the hell did I get 9lbs from? Think I need some sleep :P

[@Ray-rw7nz]

When are you going to make a video about what donut media will tell us???

[@shortbushero]

I can’t really care about which brand I’m buying, most spline thin spokes look the same, the spiderweb spokes are TOO much in design language. 5 or 6 spokes look nice but are too expensive and white is a premium. On my black C30 T5. My pick is the OEM 18” R design Pegasus wheels or OZ white rally racing. There’s a few variants of a 5 spoke white one that Volvo used for the touring C30 race cars. Those ones are fairly light, and very tasteful in complimenting the rest of the car.

[@fn2s145]

Fat 5 spokes for life.

[@shortbushero]

@@fn2s145 Can concour

[@muke001]

I got an ad for the 988 hotline before the video even started; I bet Netgear is going to provoke a lot of cope today!

[@zeroswings2]

I got "rep" wheels because the actual ones couldn't be obtained in the offset I wanted... also the wheel in question is cast just as the reps are... the style of wheel isn't even exclusive to the manufacturer most people recognize and call them by... and lastly, to get the offset I wanted I had to do a special order which cost just about as much as the genuine wheels and like them... I had to wait months to get them... in the end, do you

[@Marzimus]

Rims are like tires - you get what you pay for. On the other side of that coin - buying rims with tires second hand is very affordable.

[@OlaZzz]

As someone who has bought multiple used sets of BBS and OZ's, I wouldn't overpay for a "real" wheel ever, buy what you like and if you see a good deal on "real" wheels then grab them. "Reps" are fine as long as you like them lol

[@MQN8R]

Fair. I just like Performance Superlites. Don’t consider them wat reps. But ppl do. Still plan to get some, cause they the wheels I like/want.

[@kuro6645]

This might be a dumb question. I don't know much. Would the Rays Gram Lights 57DR be considered reps or are they different considering it's from the same company but different "Line"? Thanks in advance for your insights!

[@obr-ns7js]

I might be buying some rep spoon wheels for my Pontiac g5 sedan

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

😬

[@Kev27RS]

So REGAMASTER EVOs? So overused nowadays… 😅

[@LukemDakuwa]

RPF1's on a $60,000 sports car seems like a power move to me

[@judgegixxer]

I bought a car that came with fancy ass blingy 18" Dubs, I use those as a step to walk bulldozers and excavators over them and onto the lowbed now (literally). Bought a set of the 17" OEM wheels the car came off the assembly line with. There are zero aftermarket wheels I like.

[@araybeezy1653]

I am also wearing a Patek Philippe. Exquisite, yes. I wouldn't tell the time any other way simply.

[@MattyTarantino]

I’ve currently got rep wheels because I got them for very cheap from a mate and I can’t afford actual real wheels because I’m paying off a mortgage (at the same time as modding a car) Honestly I get heaps of compliments on then One day I’ll get real wheels but at the moment they do the job just fine Just buy what you like 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@yeetusdeletus9]

Im just saving up for real TE37's. I drive my car hard, and my factory wheels are already light. Going with reps would give me a heavier, weaker wheel than what i currently have so i dont see the point.

[@Lysol_kb]

As an sti hatchback owner, a whole set of TEs is basically an upgraded ej25 shortblock price wise. Insane how much wheels can get

[@dan-othemando7958]

RPF1 & Humble!!

[@xii8291]

what does NETGEAR think of fridges in Honda Pilots?

[@CodyDoesIt]

NG is one of my favorite automotive fellow

[@bryanwagner5971]

I bought Sparco Terras for my Kona N cause i wanted the rally look without spending almost a $100 more a wheel for the parent company OZ

[@goofygoodpasture8511]

I run advanti storm S1s on my miata, theyre lighter than RPF1s and a third the price, and I think they still look pretty good

[@Melvin_RongDong]

When I was buying wheels for my mini, I bought a pair of Avid-1s. I had no idea they were a rep wheel or whatever, but now that I know, why should I care?

[@HeckingFrick]

Damn I wasn't ready for the johnny got his gun clip.

[@lilbaba2456]

After watching this video, I will be installing work centre caps on my rep vskfs.

[@re8672]

Assassins, 🐻 and those three-spoke joints from back in the day!

[@DrDrobotnik]

Where you get a 1.5 million dollar watch?

[@88sinz]

At first, I rode reps. Then, Work cr-kai to be legit. Then, I built rare vintage SSRs to gatekeep people without 3pcs. It truly is a vicious cycle.

[@Kev27RS]

You gotta start somewhere… 😅

[@birdy3934]

I literally have never heard of all this going on. The joy of not having Instagram I guess

[@RogueCowTurd]

its rampant through out all social media car groups. just typically keyboard warriors needing to feel superior