The Disappearance of Lenny Dirickson

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On March 14, 1998. A man by the name of Lenny Dirickson would travel with an unknown man interested in buying a horse Lenny owned. Over 20 years later and Lenny, nor the strange man have been seen since...
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[@cassandracochran1593]

As a New Mexico native, I would like to remind you that yes, New Mexico is a state, in America, not far from the areas of Oklahoma and Texas mentioned in this video. New Mexico uses, yellow license plates, like what his son described he saw on the truck (not sure if they still use yellow I havent lived there for a few years) The son probably wasnt saying license plates from Mexico that were new, he was more than likely talking about NEW Mexico license plates, one of the 50 states. In America. Close to Oklahoma and Texas. New Mexico, it's a state, It exists. The 5th largest state by land mass. No body runs away to New Mexico to start over. Unless they are bad at geography.

[@w0197]

I feel like Nee Mexico is the perfect place to start over. I could be wrong.

[@MichaelMiller-tm2os]

I like you.

[@ir0n392]

From what i got he was saying its wasnt that he confused new mexico with Mexico but that the person with NM plates may have taken him through NM to Mexico for a new life

[@LordMarcus]

Be sure you take the right turn at Albuquerque.

[@chuiduma]

I think people see your home state as more real than mine. People look at me like I'm insane when I say I'm from Wyoming. :D

[@DavidOliveriMcGovern]

This story makes me think of those cases where a vehicle accidentally drives into a body of water - no trace left - a father doesn’t abandon his son, especially not after his son stood by him through a rough divorce. Another option is the son knows a lot more than he was willing to say. Maybe the father did start a new life and even maintained contact with his son afterwards.

[@teenagecaveman881]

*adult son

[@firewalk27]

@@teenagecaveman881 what do you mean? His son wasn’t an adult when he disappeared

[@MorningStarMidnightSun]

@@teenagecaveman881 *adult caveman

[@fematrailer]

@@MorningStarMidnightSun *Adolescent Neanderthal

[@emilybarclay8831]

Idk I think saying ‘X never Ys’ is never useful, even if this case is gonna be inexplicable (haven’t watched yet) parents abandon kids they seemed to adore all the time because of underlying mental and sometimes physical health issues that no one may have noticed. L Not saying that’s what happened, but when someone leaves and disappears without a trace, ruling out suicide is as foolish as ruling out foul play. Cause those are the two most common outcomes. A financially and emotionally crippling divorce, losing his farm, his daughter, massive debt, he may have felt that his son would have been better off without him, especially if there was some sort of life insurance along with that uncashed paycheque for his son to find. He may have felt that the longer he lived, the more debt his son would inherent. Or maybe he just had an accident in a remote location and no one found his body. Either way, suicide or accidental death aren’t anywhere near out of the question

[@sterlinsilver]

I've never seen a guy who looks more like a "Lenny" in my entire life

[@dm44444]

I'm always surprised when onlookers make the assumption that someone being friendly to someone else indicates they probably know each other. The average individual has no reason to be suspicious of any stranger who approaches them in a setting like this, and especially in some parts of the US, the default is to be very friendly and welcoming to everyone. This would be especially true if Lenny, in dire financial straits, was trying to sell something. Not only might anyone looking to buy the horse seem like a windfall, but obviously he'd want to be as friendly as possible to sell something.

[@sarahallen8739]

why are you surprised? I still think it’s a fair assumption

[@christopheringram3597]

@@sarahallen8739 it's okay for you to think it's fair still but they explained in detail why they were surprised for sure lol

[@sarahallen8739]

@@christopheringram3597 I know but like most people who have company tend to know that person. sorry if i didn’t make that clear. his explanation makes sense, but it’s more probable that they knew the person than not

[@ASAPJermz]

That's why I'm reserved & stand offish with most people I meet, especially when the setting makes me uneasy or I'm not naturally comfortable just being present, wherever that may be. I'm respectful but never desperate..

[@NiecieSavo]

If he knew him he would have invited him in instead of talking outside. He went with him because he was desperate for a sale.

[@strelokvladiv9598]

I have family from cheyenne and I worked in their ems service and hospital during the covid pandemic. Two things I'd like to note is that lenny was actually from strong city, a hamlet attached to cheyeene, and that in a town of less than a thousand people word of mouth is all you need to sell anything like a horse/car/combine etc. Very cool to see a case from such a tiny and poor area get the spotlight on such a huge channel

[@ashleyking3385]

so glad someone else mentioned this. I didn't look up the towns but based on some things said at the beginning like ya Lenny totally lives in a small town or country side. word of mouth. small talk.

[@markonikolic7957]

That's understandable but then again that would mean that the unknown person was from around that same arena. If that's the case someone should've recognized him by description? Or at least have some theory who he is.

[@ashleyking3385]

@@markonikolic7957 what? no... if someone happens to drive into that area and stops for gas and makes small talk with someone... that second person who lives around the area mentions to this stranger about so-and-so having horses for sale "yea just head on over to RR43 and go about 10 miles in... it'll be on the left set back aways. Go ask him. he'll fill ya in." (literally how some people near where I lived in the country talk) so this stranger then goes to the property and thus we have the beginning of the story. Also farmers or people potentially about to sell something worth a bit of money tend to act friendly. Have even been known to invite people in for some coffee or tea. the stranger doesn't have to be around the area. People are seemingly friendly out in no where. most places do this "farmer wave" when you pass someone on the back roads or dirt/gravel roads they put their hand up by their steering wheel as if to say "hey there friend" and keep driving. you most likely don't have a clue who the person was but it's "the neighborly thing to do."

[@larsonfamilyhouse]

@@markonikolic7957 I don’t think he was there for the horse, I think the guy just used that as a cover to say to his son.

[@Patmanduu]

You wouldn’t likely buy and trailer a horse on the same day, but arrange pickup later. Loading horses on an trailer is… a process, so not necessarily a red flag.

[@mxbx307]

Could be that he was just coming to view and appraise the horse before deciding whether to buy it, like you'd do with a car.

[@zacbendable6346]

I thought the same thing. I don't own horses or anything, but I image hauling the trailer around alone....

[@Saka_Mulia]

Also some people don't have a particular stables so buying the paperwork only, you could just keep paying the stable's bills as the new owner and keep the horse where it's already accustomed to.

[@perihelion7798]

Yep. That's a good point. I know of no one who purchased a horse, and then loaded it on a trailer and drove away with it. Note that getting a qualified vet to examine the horse before buying is a very common and important practice.

[@bboops23]

I know a woman who owns a farm that does programs for disabled kids. She said it's a minimum of a month from first viewing to buy a horse. She's buying for a very specific purpose and it is not necessarily the same as other people, but her first viewing is to get an idea of temperament. Then she does a vet viewing. Then a trainer viewing which is where a second qualified trainer from a different place views the horse as well to make sure her assessment is accurate. Then she does a test ride of a horse (usually this is at the same time as the third viewing). She informs people right off the bat that it takes this much time due to the nature of what she is doing and anyone who is unwilling to put up with that is trying to hide something.

[@yourmotherisverysexy]

I remember when my dad went to "meet a man about a horse"... been waiting for him ever since

[@MrRight-vf2bm]

I won’t post my come back because yours is same humor So I’ll show props you beat me to it

[@Hannah_Rachel_and_Kotik]

It could be a version of "went out for cigarettes, and never came back"

[@Docklead]

My Dad didn’t leave me, he just followed his heart 👨‍❤️‍👨

[@blahsomethingclever]

Yeah duh, he had to go buy cigarettes after such a purchase. That's why I vape. I will always be there for them

[@thescotsmantechnologyrevie2138]

Boring

[@messiahsbythesackful6267]

Was Lenny considered a horse trader or a breeder/owner? If he regularly bought and sold horses or if were a breeder who bred for sale, then the meeting doesn't strike me as odd. The stranger were in a bar or at an event and said, "You know, I'm really needing a horse for x, y or z" then someone says, "You really should see Lenny and this is where you can find him." A morning drive up and a friendly "heard you have horses for sale" would not have been odd or uncomfortable.

[@Polopony20.]

That's exactly how we buy new polo ponies. Don't think we've ever gotten one from an ad, always from word of mouth or stopping by a barn and being like "hey, any of these for sale?"

[@messiahsbythesackful6267]

@@Polopony20. The horses that we purchased were from friends or animals that I saw at a show. Word of mouth does a lot, but I would be hesitant of only a rumor....

[@larsonfamilyhouse]

Even if he wasn’t a breeder and didn’t regularly sell/trade all of that still applies.

[@frakismaximus3052]

It's rural and it's pre-internet for most people ... the meeting doesn't sound that unusual to me

[@MegCazalet]

“Going to see a man about a horse” used to be a euphemism for a couple different things. But it was fairly long outdated by then.

[@pissiole5654]

"going to see a man about a dog" is still a fairly common saying in Australia

[@Memiliano_]

Far what?

[@jasonvargas7564]

Euphemism for what? As in, going to see a man reputed to be “packing” like a horse down there for some fun?

[@taticatnineland]

@@jasonvargas7564 No. it’s a euphemism for going to pee.

[@mikebond6328]

It’s something men used to tell their wives when they were going to see their girlfriends. I’m not sure the saying was outdated so much as changed to fit the times with the man going to see about a dog or truck, etc..

[@nate9952]

I don’t know why this wasn’t suggested, but the simplest answer seems to be they had an accident. On their way to pick up the horse, Lenny and “Mystery man” get lost or have some sort of accident in the middle of nowhere. Nobody finds their bodies because this is before mobile phones and they’re both farmers.

[@johnr797]

There was that case of the Florida dude that "disappeared" and then like over a decade later someone randomly browsing Google earth or something saw his car submerged in an artificial lake in the middle of a suburb, not even that far from his house, and not far away at all from dozens and dozens of houses. Turns out he'd crashed and drowned, and simply wasn't noticed for years and years.

[@shahaffiq5860]

@@johnr797 I've heard that case

[@Nderak]

If youve driven throiugh this part of oklahoma it isnt heavily forested and doesnt have a ton of lakes like some northern states., an airplane slowly flying at 1500 feet can see quite a bit. i dont know what the search efforts entailed, but i doubt theres a burnt remains of a truck just sitting in a gorge somewhere completley overlooked.

[@flzrian3623]

could be, but they would have probably been found by now. also, many aspects of this are still suspicious

[@willcifur]

He had such a distinct look. If I was going to disappear I would establish a distinct visual style for at least a year. I’d also get rid of photographs to the contrary. If you were to take that mans mustache off he would be a completely different person.

[@HungerGamesFan88]

wear sunglasses, a hat, and a fake beard and aint nobody gonna recognize you

[@viciousKev]

@@HungerGamesFan88 dont forget a dress and wig

[@hereallyfast]

You just need to have a a movie production quality facial defect. Nothing else. A deep scar wound on the right side of your face that goes all the way to your cheek. Take that off and, voila! Your stars go down to zero and you can play again

[@dynamitenight8557]

As someone with a distinct piece of face furniture i wholeheartedly concur.

[@willcifur]

It’s probably not as far fetched as I’m thinking it is. The more i turn it over though the thought of having a life mulligan probably seems like salvation if the walls were crumbling around you.

[@lindsayschmidt2177]

“New Mexico” is a state in the United States. Not sure why you’d think Lenny went to Mexico, the country, because a truck had New Mexico plates.

[@GeneralDisarray666]

This made me laugh too. Had it been Texas sure but New Mexico? Thats a much longer drive

[@evry1sfriend619]

Do you think Cadaber interpreted "New Mexico plates" as "Brand-new Mexican Plates"? As foolish as that sounds, its the only way I can reconcile how he went from talking about NM plates to disappearing to Mexico the country.

[@johnr797]

It's on the way to Mexico? I guess? I dunno, lol

[@skinlizard2251]

@@evry1sfriend619 THAT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE ABDBFNFN, I didn't even think of it yeah, it's an understandable mistake I guess.

[@TheBirdHouse]

So you’re saying there is a “New” Mexico!!???

[@Sahduu17]

Using casual conversation as a point to prove they knew each other is really misguided. I can count the number of times I’ve had a “formal” conversation with a stranger on one hand. Southern hospitality is a trope for a good reason. People are friendly in the more rural south. Also, if you are in need of money and someone is offering to buy something that you are selling. You put on a smile and get real friendly real fast

[@no_peace]

100%

[@Freak80MC]

It's so weird how it's a trope that people in the South are more friendly when some of this country's worst atrocities committed within our border have come from that area. It almost feels like an attempt to sweep that past under the rug, by creating this culture of "see, we're actually all super friendly here, that was the past!!!" Even tho it very much happens into the present too. Basically what China does, caring more about your image than your actions, even tho in reality actions speak louder than words. Yet enough people care more about the image and won't look more than surface deep so it fools most people.

[@watchdog304]

The way Lenny's son got emotional in the Unsolved Mysteries segment was heartbreaking and it cemented this case in my mind.

[@dee7353]

Why do people resort to a person who disappears as wanting to start a new life? That is so rare it is ridiculous. In fact, it insulting when police say that to the loved one of someone who is missing.

[@Polopony20.]

Exactly! I've done WAY too much research on it and it's SO difficult. Especially to do it in a way the cops won't be after you and catch you when you, idk get a speeding ticket or try to leave the country

[@ryantitsworth]

Why do I feel like Red Dead Redemption 2 knew what they were doing with the “where is Lenny” bar scene

[@brixfrancis1234]

YNNEL

[@mxbx307]

The only issue I have with the gay lover theory was the fact that he just abandoned his son and walked out of his life. Seems he and his son were very close and it would be a massive deal for him to just disappear and never see him again, or give any kind of closure.

[@Kevin-cy2dr]

He didn't have money to provide him,also it would be difficult for his teenage son to adjust to the new life. If the son disappeared then the mom could file for missing person which may involve the FBI because of the son being a minor.

[@johnathankain8033]

To me its borderline homophobic that someone would suggest the guy's love of his son would be trumped by running off with a lover. I don't think almost anyone would do that.

[@Freak80MC]

@@johnathankain8033 I mean, shitty people exist everywhere. Gay, straight. Plenty of straight people would gladly abandon their children for a lover so why wouldn't there be gay people who would do the same? If anything, it's homophobic to suggest all gay people are absolutely perfect human beings who would never do anything awful. It denies the reality of human nature.

[@Legionmint7091]

I sincerely doubt that he wouldn’t have contacted his son sooner or later if he was alive. If he was in financial trouble he may have borrowed money from shady people, or was trying to borrow money. But the deal went sour for some reason and he was killed. Just because his body hasn’t been found doesn’t mean he’s not dead. The man who was the potential buyer of the horse knew that he had been seen, so getting rid of the body properly was a lot smarter than just dumping him.

[@lindsayschmidt2177]

I tend to think this is the case. I definitely think, one way or another, Lenny died not long after Jared saw him for the last time.

[@lizc6393]

Yeah, very likely he went into a body of water. I really hate thinking about it, because it's a personal phobia, but it's all too common.

[@markonikolic7957]

It's the most logical thing. Apparently he was familiar with the man. So this is hardly some random serial killer or a robber. Chances are he went into some shady dealings with this man or someone this man knew to get back on his feet. Think about it. What choice does a farmer from Oklahoma, assuming without education, even have when his life is ruined.

[@no_peace]

Did you know they found at least 10 bodies while looking for Gabby Petito? You don't even have to hide a body to keep it from being found if they never even look for it

[@no_peace]

He wasn't necessarily familiar with the man. One time I was at a restaurant eating lunch with a coworker and an old guy came up and started talking so familiarly to us that I thought he must be a good friend of my coworker's. He kept going like that for like 10 minutes but also kept trying harder and harder to get a rise out of us, and i kept having to restrain myself not to react, to be polite to this friend of my coworker. Anyway we got him to leave after we realized neither of us knew him. He was just being "friendly" (and malicious). You don't have to know someone to talk to them in a familiar way. That's literally how a lot of bad people function

[@jeffreygrajek583]

One thing to be sure about, if you have any type of livestock and your business depends on livestock you would know the players in your part of the region. You would more than likely not run an AD to sell off some of your livestock. A lot of these type of sales are done with someone you know or with someone you know who has a friend or a brother of a friend who has a cousin that might be interested. Also, you would not drag your trailer along to talk to someone that referred you. It would be in bad form to show up with a trailer to talk to a man about a horse sight unseen. Someone knows more but has not said anything so I think this was planned. Good job.

[@skudsurfer]

True in my country people who live in far away places would see about a livestock sale as they would tell there friends and they might even tell there friends and then boom some guy who lives far away might be interested in buying your live stock even without a ad.

[@rabuie]

You said the vehicle had New Mexico plates and then said maybe he went to Mexico. Not sure if that was a simple mistake or if him going to New Mexico would automatically equate to the country Mexico for some reason. He could have just driven through Texas to go to Mexico.

[@MustyMouse]

Misinterpretation, I think. "New Mexico" as in the state versus "New-Mexico" as in a new thing from Mexico

[@necroparagon7226]

"The unidentified man that left with Lenny is described as a white male who at the time was about 41 years old, 6'2, 210 pounds, had a full reddish-brown beard, wore a baseball cap with the words "No Fear", was right-handed, and smoked Marlboro Light cigarettes. He was driving a white Ford pickup truck with a yellow tag on the front and possibly a New Mexico license plate. He has never been located and is not considered a suspect by police, but they do want to question him." I can't see what else he could mean, unless he's literally just not saying "New" before Mexico to shorten it for some reason? Or he's saying they went from NM to Mexico? Regardless that's the weaker hypothesis. Lenny was likely killed for the $30,000, or more unlikely the both of them were in a car accident and ended up in an obscure location.

[@joshgiannini1804]

Lots of little mistakes like that in this guys vids, there's a reason he pumps out more vids than the other bigger mystery channels

[@rabuie]

@@necroparagon7226 thanks. I live in Texas and that one sentence really stood out to me for some reason. Otherwise I think it was a good video.

[@DBoone123]

New Mexico plates kind of look like Mexican plates

[@Strong_UP_Calvins_zombie]

As a father I find it difficult to believe that a father would leave his son without some kind of parting comments or advice or something rather than just leave a son that's dedicated to his father like his son seemed to be

[@martharunstheworld]

Me too. I doubt that's what happened. Many people are murdered and there's never a trace of them found again.

[@ileolai]

you do? ''dad went to the shops to get milk and never came back'' is a cliche for a reason.

[@Strong_UP_Calvins_zombie]

@@ileolai yes I know. However this son and father seemed to be close. So chances of that happening are slim

[@JJAB91]

@@ileolai A cliche of a certain demographic in particular that Lenny was not a part of.

[@min-fel]

@@JJAB91 pft. this is so dumb

[@emilycrewe3794]

I’m much more inclined to believe that Lenny met with foul play than that he willingly disappeared. While some people do manage to successfully start new lives under assumed identities, it’s not at all an easy thing to do without any money. If the man he left with was someone Lenny hired, how did he pay him? The fact that no body was ever found doesn’t convince me that Lenny wasn’t murdered. Without any information on who the man Lenny was last seen with was and their movements on the day of the disappearance, how would the authorities have any clear idea of where to begin their search? The responding to an ad/someone selling something with the intention of robbery (or worse) ruse has been perpetrated hundreds of times and has lead to some pretty high profile missing persons turned murder cases. Tim Bosma immediately comes to mind, for example.

[@12...]

and not having any ID either he wouldn't be able to use his driver's license etc. but maybe that was easier back then

[@mxbx307]

We also have absolutely no hard proof that he and the other man were the same two seen in the diner. Could just have been two random guys who looked similar.

[@markonikolic7957]

Yes it's possible to hide the body well enough that it's never found. However it seems odd that he acted normal with the man by everyone's accounts. If there was some foul play I'd bet he was involved in some sketchy stuff that may have involved that guy. It would seem logical given that he was ruined financially.

[@lilas8217]

It was much easier to disappear and start a new life with a new identity back in the day (up until the 2000s), and a lot of people actually did that. Nowadays is extremely hard. But before current technology (internet and widespread of DNA identification and tracing) it was surprisingly easy. Not saying that that's what happened to Lenny tho, because i really have no clue.

[@no_peace]

@@markonikolic7957 why wouldn't he act normal with a friendly potential buyer who presumably also owns horses?

[@sarahchan-reeves8829]

Poor Jarred. The feeling of abandonment is the worst. For some, it never leaves (ironically because that would be abandoning their cause etc). There must be nothing worse for a child, to see their world (which our stents are when we're kids, even the parents who abuse us) go off to do a 'normal' thing, NEVER to be seen again, NEVER to return. I hope as an adult, he has learnt to reconcile these events & know that he is not to blame. It wasn't him that his father was running from & hopefully, it was something he was compelled to do with the feeling of having no other choice. I hope this event hasn't taken over Jarred's life & essentially destroyed him. I hope one day that the answer to this is revealed finally

[@JulieRushworth]

Though I dnt see why Lenny would vanish and leave his Son

[@kyleeconrad]

I'm ever impressed by the youtubers like cadaber, deadbug says, thoughty2, nick crowley, rob g, nexpo, lemmino, (and so many more) and their high tier quality uploads. Its far better than anyone could've expected at the outset. I wish I could contribute to about a hundred individual youtubers patreons.

[@jasonvargas7564]

Not Nexpo. He’s shady.

[@therogueserafim271]

Barely sociable, too

[@sabbyd1832]

I have all but deadbug says. Will go check it out

[@HGAMES69]

@@jasonvargas7564 nigga what?

[@thisisntyoutube]

@@jasonvargas7564 what did nexpo do

[@DamianMaisano]

Are there by bodies of water on or near the route in question? If there are, then this should be searched thoroughly. It’s far too common a thing that people disappearing after getting into a car is just an unfortunate accident where the vehicle/bodies have simply not yet been found.

[@mikebond6328]

Nobody knows where they went so the route in question is still that.

[@jyedurnan4793]

@@mikebond6328 You could see where his house is, the diner is and where the horses are to see the general direction they were going, but we don’t have that info

[@chazzcoolidge2654]

Similar accidents occur here on Highway 96,since there's a river on one side of the road and a cliff on the other side. Some get lucky and end up meeting the cliff,some are less lucky and go right into the river with an even luckier few being saved by a random tree stump on the river bank. Worst part is the lack of traffic and lack of cell service,so if you're stranded in a wreck out there the chances of rescue are slim unless some local spots you.

[@harrynelson9203]

Get adventures with purpose to check the water in those areas

[@DaniTheDeer]

My first thought after hearing the story was they were lovers. Being gay in a rural area, especially back in the day, could potentially be a death sentence, and it seemed his messy divorce was known. That coupled with crippling debt and a failing farm, it seems to be the best choice to run away and start over, as many other gay men have in the past.

[@Vexertion]

I agree it’s a possibility but why not contact your son after 20 years where it’s more acceptable? More damage would occur? I don’t know, definitely strange for sure if that’s the case.

[@DaniTheDeer]

@Apples Could be a lot of reasons. If it was known that he was still alive, he'd get all the debt back and be right back where he started. Maybe the son does know something and isn't saying to protect his father. Maybe he is too ashamed to confront that really big hurdle, I mean what would you say to your son? "Sorry I abandoned you for years to excape my debt and start a new life without you."? It has been over 20 years though putting him into his 60s. There could also be a chance he passed away from a separate situation, hell if he was gay in the 90s, theres a chance he got AIDS and he wanted to see the world before he died. I honestly hope one way or another he is out there living his best life somewhere.

[@samgunn12]

The first thing I thought was that, too. I hope it’s true and I hope they are happy.

[@ariley_]

what in the brokeback...

[@kamakiriad]

@@ariley_ Exactly what i thought when i heard the gay theories lol

[@kendalllee7622]

if im being honest this one made me cry, the delivery you gave and the video in it's entirety made me feel so many feelings about this dad and son. Great video man

[@kanazawanisundeimasu6211]

Okay, so when the case was being described, I jokingly thought that they eloped, and I didn't take that thought seriously. It surprised me that other people seriously thought that though. I mean, there is a possibility, but I wouldn't bank on it. If that is the case, they probably went to a more accepting place. There were few accepting places at the time and Lenny coming out would've definitely had repercussions on his son

[@Hannah_Rachel_and_Kotik]

But why not contact the son nowadays?

[@maxminimum7842]

@@Hannah_Rachel_and_Kotik maybe a lovers quarrel and the unknown man killed him?

[@kanazawanisundeimasu6211]

@@Hannah_Rachel_and_Kotik Assuming that it was the case, which I won't bet on, there could be various reasons. The biggest of all would be lost contact. It's been over 20 years. The son has probably moved and the phone number has changed. Seeking out a person after so long is a skill that not many have, and it may cost too much to hire someone who does have that skill. There could also be a sense of shame that prevents him. Even if it was for legitimate safety reasons for himself and his son, abandoning your teenage son is pretty selfish, and the guilt and shame from that prevents him. Even if neither is the case, the area could be not accepting at all and outing himself there could still be dangerous (...and there are social repercussions for abandoning his son, regardless if there is an outing or not). TBH, this is all a bunch of assumptions on my part. I would bet that the car fell off the road and rolled off somewhere to never be found. Even if the elopement theory is the case, I don't know what would go on through anyone's mind

[@kanazawanisundeimasu6211]

@@maxminimum7842 Lol, we have completely different theories, but at least yours can't be disproven at the moment

[@TheStarsTwilight]

I actually unironically thought this before it was stated. For me, it was the combination of the time this happened (during the mid '90s) and the sense of familiarity that the waitress described. If the man was a transporter, I could understand not being hostile, but feeling that level of comfort? You're being taken to somewhere else with someone you don't know; while you need some degree of trust to do that, you'd likely still be a bit on edge as again, you don't know them and can't guarantee you won't be taken trafficked, driven far away to be killed by some sadistic monster (it'd be smarter than doing it on site), or otherwise be taken advantage of. It'd also be extremely strange to just casually stop at a diner nearby and have a meal with said stranger. Sure, there's the idea of having one last meal from your old home, but he already just did that with his son. Why do it again? And if the conversation was to explain his new life to him, why can't they just do that in the truck? I also feel there's not much talk about the fact that the caller who made the sighting 6 months later chose to stay anonymous. That implies that whatever happened to Lenny, he was in on it. It's even weirder that they went up to a barkeep in a different section to claim they saw Lenny rather than immediately contacting police while he was still there or at the very least brining him along to the barkeep. Clearly, they wanted him to be spotted, but not actually found or returned. We also know the caller was definitely male. I think that might have been the man he left with, or at least someone who was in on the secret, that had done this as a way to tell the family Lenny was still alive without having them be found otherwise. Again, if it was a transporter this could technically have happened at Lenny's request... but odds are you wouldn't still be in contact with your transporter six months later to plan something like that out. Once they took you away, you'd have no more reason to continue talking.

[@UncleHoagie]

Just found this channel yesterday and already have a new upload? Good stuff my dude, please keep it up!!

[@platinumpagoda3079]

Welcome!!

[@badbunny6572]

He's awesome! Glad you found him 🤗

[@fran1514]

Same thing right here!

[@marshall9729]

i remember seeing this story on the show unsolved mysteries wayy back in the day. it was just one of those complete one shots that just sticks with you.

[@thesixfootsixexperience8781]

Very high quality. The tone you set with it was very respectful of all those affected.

[@widgie161]

I honestly think that something really likely is the two men got into some accident after eating at the diner and the wreckage has never been found. I don’t know the terrain around the area but sometimes car accidents happen and if no one is looking at the side of a hill or in a body of water then it’s really hard to find.

[@katebradley9306]

THIS

[@Nderak]

not many big bodies of water down there, and the area has gone through many droughts int he past 30 years

[@The_Obsessed]

Your videos have been an immense comfort for me for awhile now. The topics you cover are dark, but, yoi coverage of topics like Carl H. and seriousness about the topics at hand is nice. Your content is appreciated, and takes my mind out of the gutter when I need it most. Thank you.

[@MattKismet]

Just in time for my 30 minute break at work. Thank you!

[@dars5229]

Has anyone tried drunkenly wandering around yelling "Hey, Lenny!"? Cowboys do that sometimes.

[@kyddkreature9801]

So glad youre back!! Loving the high upload rate ❤❤

[@melanierapp537]

I have a "friend '" who's father was on the run and had to get a new identity. He went "supposedly " to northern California to work on a marajauna farm. "supposedly "..there are farms that are way hiden up in the mountains that will hide people house them, pay, give u a new soc security # and birth certificate ...you just need to commit to working on the farm for a reduced wage for a few years and stay on that farm and tell NO BODY. You get no cell phone internet etc..your are not allowed to communicate to outside world

[@superchief7786]

My first thought was why would someone who wanted to do him harm take him to breakfast at a diner where a bunch of random people would see them. Seems risky to me.

[@TD-Industries]

Sounds like could be a fatal car wreck to me. Not familiar with the geography of the area but it's possible that the truck is well hidden wherever it is. Especially since no one knows who the other guy is. Are there any other people missing from the weeks before or after his disappearance that could fit the strangers description?

[@katebradley9306]

same feeling on my side

[@Shamrocks847]

Thank you so much for uploading a lot! I can’t believe you put out this much content! Love the channel ❤️

[@mlk0-0]

My heart breaks for Jared...Gracious, he'd be almost 40 now. I couldn't imagine what his life has been like since...

[@eradict]

Wow, Cadaber is on fire! Just like that one house in Odon ;) Great to have you back, man. Okay, Imma watch the video now. 😁

[@extinctoart]

Really good analysis, I've seen a few videos on this case but Cadaber always goes those extra miles and I really appreciate that

[@BelakorVenator]

Thanks for the quick upload after the last. Really enjoy your channel and the only downside was time between uploads, so that’s awesome. Hope you are well, sir.

[@lukeslayer]

Loves these videos, love your channel and all the effort you put in to it. Keep up the amazing work mate!

[@anonymousstoner304]

Keep up the amazing work Dude! Absolutely love when I see you drop new content! I’d honestly pay to listen and watch you ❤️❤️❤️ big fan from Ontario Canada 💪❤️

[@sandycheeks8957]

Cadaber been blessing us recently 🙏

[@TwilightPrincessFR]

Awesome video as usual, Cadaber! Greetings from Norway ✌🏾

[@platinumpagoda3079]

Cadaber be putting the work in, thanks brutha. Love your channel.

[@isabellaangeline2175]

19:22 I respectfully disagree. Just because there’s no evidence doesn’t mean it’s free game to start assuming. Heck, their truck could be in a body of water after having been in an accident for all we know. I mean, there’s just as much evidence for that as there are all the other theories, which is none. Unfortunately not all missing persons cases get solved.

[@mikebond6328]

You’re right. That’s how shit gets started.

[@wafflemypancakesuponthesun875]

Another great video, really enjoyed it. Ambiance on point as always

[@madmattdigs9518]

If this guy cared about his teenage son at all… he wouldn’t have disappeared on purpose. There’s no way he would do that! I have a teenage daughter and I can’t think of much worse I could do to her. He must’ve been murdered. It’s not that hard to hide a body somewhere and it never be found. Especially in a remote wilderness are or dessert. Like New Mexico for example…

[@WobblesandBean]

Unfortunately, it happens all the time. People just....up and leave, even after decades. They leave their kids behind, they don't even care. Not saying that's what happened here, but having children is not as big of a stopgap as you might think it is.

[@MermaidsAreNice]

@@WobblesandBean I would agree, but in this case, they did say that his son was his best friend. I guess he could have been a very good actor/liar, though.

[@itaohs5551]

Man this one's a classic. Thank you for the in depth run through. It's kind of a heartbreaking one, extremely intriguing since we don't even know what happened, let alone why.

[@lils387]

Thank you for the upload!! :) Keep the awesome vids coming

[@dylanjacobs661]

I have binged all of nexpo and barley sociables and my other creepy pasta you tubers and then I find this diamond the in rough . You are underrated sir and I hope you get the acknowledgment you deserve!

[@morgjones13]

What if the person who placed the call about a sighting of Lenny, was Lenny and he was doing it to basically let his son know he's still alive

[@MadhanBhavani]

I thought that too

[@nqnqnq]

i've binged your channel and became addicted to yout content keep it up!

[@lucyk2371]

As someone that used to deal in horses. You typically don't bring the trailer with you on the first viewing. You look to eager. So you can haggle. Also, it's not strange at all for a person to pick a person up at their house and then take them to see the horse. I've run into this before. It is strange to me that this man has never come forward if it was innocent.

[@chelseacloud6950]

Yesss! Just found your channel and binged watch all your vids!!!👑

[@sandrafaith]

Great work as always, my dude.

[@thewhitepicketfence9136]

I recently subscribed and absolutely adore your content, I hope you get more popular!

[@johnqpublic2718]

Phantasmo Edit: as an Okie, born and raised, I feel like you made this video just for me, a new subscriber.

[@joshuaeverhart8326]

Keep up the good content cadaber

[@lisarodrigues4272]

I love your storytelling. Keep up the great work. I'm a fan forever.

[@themptytree3145]

Just discovered this channel gonna watch all the videos

[@CarolineBearoline]

You're spoiling us, Mr. Dabber

[@danielshrekoderbanner]

So many uploads!!!

[@scavenqers]

“Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to see a man about a horse. *vanishes off the face of the earth*”

[@eskaflorence5659]

It do be like that sometimes.

[@Amanda-bt1ur]

. . . im really starting to dig this channel more &more. Keep up the amazing|creative content & your SUURE to go places. #StayBlessed 🤘🏼🙏🏼😘🖤🙌🏽😛❣️✌🏼

[@6z0]

I believe this case was already solved but was never connected. In 2010, a white pickup truck with 2 John Doe’s inside was found at the bottom of the Town Fork Red River off of the side of a highway in Abington, Oklahoma, about 40 miles southwest of Elk City. These John Doe’s were never identified.

[@jamesflint9639]

This is really interesting and is the most overlooked comment here, surprised it's not being talked about. Would love to know more info on this but can't find any?

[@drewsims3823]

Great job on the video.

[@johnmaclean2040]

Love your videos man

[@genevacoan5826]

I love your narration. You’re easily one of my top 5’s. Fantastic pace, tone, my favorite way to end a day. 🧡

[@guitarpop]

His English is horrible

[@watchdog304]

I have a very, very hard time believing that was Lenny in the bar and that he left to start anew. First, there is no way in hell a reasonable person would see a man who has been missing, call the cops and then leave before they arrive. Especially if he "knew" Lenny which the man on the phone said he did accordingto UnsolvedMysteries. I think it was either a hoax call or a party involved in his disappearance.

[@markwebster5749]

Can’t beat a bit of cadaber 👍🇬🇧

[@DementedDuskull]

Why does everyone keep saying you're back, as far as I know you never left.

[@cantsneedgaming4591]

For a little while he didn't upload like maybe 2 months

[@diamondleigh7280]

What do you mean? I subscribed to the channel and just now receiving an Upload.... I had totally forgotten about subs to this channel or who he was.... Lol, so yes ppl have to say it like he's back .... After watching this video I see why I subs to his channel, however it's been months ago.....

[@malte2483]

And again: A little masterpiece😊💯👍

[@danieldalton]

If I watch a Cadaber video then go to watch somebody else’s similar shit the voice just doesn’t cut it. Cadaber voice forever ❤

[@StaraptorEagle]

2:40 thank you for showing footage of the Devon Tower!! This is a landmark I see occasionally!

[@gjmarkjesse1324]

"Not many of us get a chance to start fresh. Good luck, Mr. Driscoll."

[@CarolineBearoline]

I think Lenny was used to a life of handling stuff himself, something happened on the road trip between the tall redhead and himself and he was incapacitated. Then the red head stripped him of his ID and Lenny was put into the hospital as an indigent patient in an unconscious state. I think Lenny passed away without ever being identified and DNA wasn't cataloged

[@mrreyes5004]

Eh, not really much evidence? What could've happened on the road trip? How could he have been incapacitated? How would he have passed away in the hospital? The video explicitly mentions that there was _nobody_ in the area's hospital(s) matching Lenny's appearance - your "theory" doesn't hold water because even Lenny was admitted as an indigent patient in an unconscious state, the staff whom the police interviewed still would've pointed out "oh yeah, there was an indigent admitted not long ago matching that description", yet there was none. This, along with the other questions I asked earlier that you can't answer, means that this hypothesis likely isn't the case.

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

Holy shit. Hell yeah dude. Fancy seeing you here. Of all places

[@CarolineBearoline]

@@ExtremelyOnlineGuy hell yeah dude 🌈 I'm sad about Future Files... there's obviously a lot of subscriber crossover with Obama, Seagull and ScrtSqrl... but damnit! Now I have (almost) no pedigree to point out for incels, when they try to make it out like I'm not welcome

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

@@CarolineBearoline FF has a new channel. It’s FFBO if I recall correctly everyone else is back but that Vietnamese guy isn’t even gay he’s just trying to monopolize our market of thievery

[@ExtremelyOnlineGuy]

@@CarolineBearoline it’d be really odd if I seen you on a yammi noob video. I seen one of the guys from the bust there can’t remember who tho.

[@rj_nbk]

Another amazing video

[@SpiritofaGrandmother]

I just discovered your channel and have been power watching all your videos. Now my theory about this case is that he willingly disappeared because he knew after a certain amount of time had passed, his next of kin could have him legally declared dead which would absolve all his debts

[@sharkquisha3407]

Its crazy you referenced the El Camino because thats all I can think of when watching this.

[@nyvkroft6530]

Literally just finished the video on the Mull Air Mystery and closed it to find a new upload.

[@teamboobooseth1]

I remember seeing this case on Unsolved Mysteries (the Dennis Farina version) and it always scared the crap outta me.

[@glxssy8037]

That's funny that you mentioned the man who helps people "disappear" from Breaking Bad, because I was thinking the same thing

[@Beeyo176]

I honestly don't know why I don't get notifications for channels I have the bell clicked for

[@sobot_]

I love the outro !!!

[@ferret6328]

Holy crap dude, I haven’t been here in a while and damn you’ve grown

[@MyNameIsCheyne]

Best intro on yt 💯🥇

[@Pantheragem]

3/14/98. Weird to hear that date, the same day as my little brother died. Hard to believe it was that long ago.

[@diamondleigh7280]

I enjoyed listening to this case, however I personally feel Lenny was MURDERED this day ..... I'm not sure if you have children, but you can't just walk away from your baby and never look back like they don't exist.... Also, it says sumthin when his SSN, bank account, etc is never touched again.... His body could have never been found bc either his killer was able to get rid of it in a location that isn't remote, or he could have burned etc.... I can't see a man telling his son to start your chores as if he's coming home and planning to run away!!! No way..... However, I'll rather for Lenny to had left willingly than to been murdered.... 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@diamondleigh7280]

@Based Med Exactly... Unfortunately, Lenny lost his life shortly after leaving his home.... I don't feel Lenny ran away to be with another man either 🙄.... Not to down this channel bc I'm sure there are reasons for him to say/feel Lenny was gay. However, I couldn't imagine sumone saying I'm that way when I'm totally not 🤔😑🤭

[@EOP02]

Dare I say... u are filing the gap for those of us jonzing for the next Barely Sociable vid I'm finding the same quality content here as Bare Soc Hope u don't feel this a back handed compliment I'm hooked, subbed and, Love from way up North

[@billblaski9523]

I think Cadaber reminds me of Lemmino

[@trumpetman2327]

Cadaber is my life blood istg

[@theindependentchannel3381]

maan, I love your vids! looking at the photo of Lenny gave me a vibe of the photo of Lori Erica Ruff (blue background, very shiny face) maybe you would like to cover the story? it's not a mystery, as it was solved a few years ago, as far as I remember, but I would love if you did a documentary on that case!

[@hilariousigstorys6648]

Fuck yea. Can’t sleep and boom my favorite channel drops a vid ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@sanhyo1339]

i love your videos so much

[@Cadaber]

Thank you ☺️

[@TwilightPrincessFR]

I fell asleep watching this, i managed to click LIKE and.. goodnight..🙈 Now im ready with a cup of hot chocolate and the newest Cadaber video 💖🥳

[@cybershinigami9907]

"Lenny? Lennnyyyyyy where are you lenny?" -arthur morgan