The Mull Air Mystery

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2 жыл бұрын

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In 1975, Peter Gibbs would start the engine of his cessna F150H and take flight into the night sky. Flash forward four decades later, and the mystery surrounding both Peter and his plane continue to puzzle investigators and theorist alike.
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@sobot_
@sobot_ 2 жыл бұрын
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@mayrln
@mayrln 2 жыл бұрын
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@GloriousKale
@GloriousKale 2 жыл бұрын
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@HGAMES69
@HGAMES69 2 жыл бұрын
No
@ein.
@ein. 2 жыл бұрын
Rip skele boy on channels icon :(
@bruhdabones
@bruhdabones 2 жыл бұрын
Letting the plane idle for 10 minutes actually makes sense… it’s the dead of winter, that’s what you do with engines. Extremely common to do this with cars too.
@maryannredfern5954
@maryannredfern5954 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I found it ludicrous that anyone would question this action. My former bf of warmed his Cessna up for several minutes here in Louisiana even in the middle of summer...temps of 90 or more.
@bruhdabones
@bruhdabones 2 жыл бұрын
@@maryannredfern5954 I'm no pilot but I know pilots and I know a tiny bit about cars... I feel like this is common knowledge!
@mrreyes5004
@mrreyes5004 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruhdabones I mean, that's valid, but that also doesn't exactly explain why he turned the plane lights on... _and then off again._ You're right, letting the engines warm up by sitting there for several minutes makes sense for any pilot/driver, but turning the vehicle lights _OFF_ in the dark of night (and also in snowy weather) makes zero sense.
@bruhdabones
@bruhdabones 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrreyes5004 lights off is strange. I’m not saying there was nothing odd that happened, I am simply objecting to the emphasis on idling. Because that’s not strange at all.
@Madhouse_Media
@Madhouse_Media 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrreyes5004 He turned them back on before takeoff. But that isn't unusual either. If you're doing a pre flight check it makes sense to test the lights.
@dolanjuhblee7918
@dolanjuhblee7918 2 жыл бұрын
Taking off in freezing rain, in darkness, in a small cessna with no anti-icing or de-icing equipment. This dude had a death wish.
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
For real, terrible conditions that were extremely unsafe for aviation, I dunno why you’d wanna take off in those conditions
@scienceandmatter8739
@scienceandmatter8739 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZombieSazza cause He felt to?
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
@@scienceandmatter8739 an experienced airman would not go flying out in terrible conditions because it can lead to death, no matter how much you may want to. That’s why it doesn’t make sense. Even if you were challenging yourself, it’s very weird to want to have an unsafe flight
@flexygoo1295
@flexygoo1295 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like a mystery to me. Dude crashed. Mystery solved
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
@@flexygoo1295 I guess the circumstances make it a mystery, but it sounds like he could’ve had an emergency landing via water ditching? I know they said they didn’t find sea water on his clothing, but to me it’s the only thing that makes sense
@mei4195
@mei4195 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that the body and the plane is found separately at the different area makes a big plot hole to many theories
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I I looked at a map and they’re not exactly right next to each other.
@JamesRival
@JamesRival 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cadaber Is there a way I can look at said map? I’m super curious about this whole mystery.
@Al-jt3dw
@Al-jt3dw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cadaber is that map available somewhere for us to look at? I’m curious about that as well. Are they like within a mile or less of each other, or significantly far from each other?
@MrAgentEcho
@MrAgentEcho 2 жыл бұрын
There was a time when a pilot ejected from a flat spin. After ejecting, he saw the plane level out and start flying unpiloted for many miles until it ran out of fuel and crashed in some farmer's field. Look it up.
@BenJover
@BenJover 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAgentEcho Yeah the plane gliding without him was my first thought but one would think a possible flight path could be worked out of that's the case.
@pyrho1
@pyrho1 2 жыл бұрын
Leaving an airplane engine at idle for a while and turning lights on and off before flight is absolutely normal. It sounds like he was just running through required preflight checks
@davecom3
@davecom3 2 жыл бұрын
Or the light switching on/off were a signal to someone?
@tanberetO
@tanberetO 2 жыл бұрын
@@davecom3 No. Preflight check. If it was that cold you'd want a warm engine just to heat up the cabin, night time, you want to check your lights before you fly, not during flight. Just routine.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 8 ай бұрын
Especially since it wasn't his plane, so he had no idea how well it was maintained. My first thought was "it's winter, he's just warming up the cabin. Or the engine." And while lights and idling would be easy to see, he could've run a check of all control surfaces during that time.
@LongDongJohnson0705
@LongDongJohnson0705 8 ай бұрын
Do small planes like that have heat?
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens 6 ай бұрын
@@LongDongJohnson0705 They do.
@Apolita1987
@Apolita1987 2 жыл бұрын
A few things: First - a nitpick. The girlfriend was supposed to have a pair of "powerful torches", not a single one as mentioned in the video. I haven't read anything suggesting that a landing would have been "impossible" with such a set-up. 2. The wreck and the "doors locked from the inside". The brothers were unable to locate the plane afterwards and the pictures they took were very poor. It's unclear if it was even the same plane as they didn't take a picture of the markings (that'd be the first picture I'd take). In 2013, the Royal Navy did discover a wreck of a Cessna in the vicinity, but it was intact, not totaled as the brothers stated. There's a question if they weren't making it up. But even if you do believe them, they were clam divers, not professional locksmiths. Them saying "the doors were locked from the inside" should translate to "we couldn't open the doors". They could have been jammed or rusted shut and they'd have no way of knowing the difference. And I'm not a pilot, but the concept of airplane doors being "locked from the inside" amuses me. Surely this is not a necessary function of airplane doors? Closed is good enough. It's not like they're worried about a planejack in mid-air.
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the only time a plane's doors would need to be locked is on the ground to prevent theft. Which would mean locking them from the outside. I didn't catch that despite it being obvious.
@mad-pit3832
@mad-pit3832 2 жыл бұрын
You're correct, I am from Scotland and done a presentation on this in school. I spent hours and hours researching every article I could, and Whilst doing so I never once found anything to suggest she only had one torch, there narrator of this channel has either embellished a whole lot in order to make the story more interesting, or did not take the time to do the proper research, as he has included a number of inconsistency's I have never come across. Either way it sort of ruins what is good content if you are not familiar with the case.
@Apolita1987
@Apolita1987 2 жыл бұрын
@@mad-pit3832 Thanks for the info. The sad part is, I can't have spent more than 30 minutes doing the most basic research and I read all of three articles - including the one on Wikipedia. I wanted the "airplane doors locked from the inside" part confirmed, as it sounded like complete hooey, and I soon realized it wasn't the only issue with the video. Shame, because it's very well produced from a technical perspective.
@trevortdawg
@trevortdawg 2 жыл бұрын
Just a note from a student - nearing license completion - pilot, I fly solely the Cessna 172 and have had experience in and around Cessna 150s, and I can confirm that the doors do indeed lock from the inside, and you aren’t able to open them from the outside if they’re locked on the inside. The main reason for this isn’t hijacking or something, but rather to ensure the doors don’t open mid flight, whether by accident, or by aerodynamic forces causing the latch on the outside of the door to be lifted and release the door.
@trevortdawg
@trevortdawg 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakerInMotion Hey man, student pilot/airport ground worker here. I have ~50 hours in a single engine Cessna like this, and I can tell you that while, yes you CAN lock/unlock the doors of a Cessna with a key on the ground, the doors also automatically lock from the inside when you close the doors from the inside. The doors have a lever that lays flush horizontally on the handle section of the doors, which needs to be pulled up to its most vertical position before closing, pulling the door closed, and then latching the lever down horizontally, flush with the handle part. When this process is completed, which is the only way to close the doors from the inside, the doors cannot be opened from the outside. The main purpose of this function that I’m aware of, is to prevent accidental opening of the door in flight, whether by human error, or more specifically, so that various aerodynamic forces cannot force the latch on the outside of the door to open. (There are many things on planes that are oriented with pockets and handles facing either away from or in line with the front of the plane, so that the airflow over the plane doesn’t open things like fuel caps, luggage doors, etc.)
@fematrailer
@fematrailer 2 жыл бұрын
Tests for alcohol are invalid after 48 hours after death. It's likely there's a miscommunication in the reporting there, as alcohol often naturally occurs in the body as a byproduct of decomposition, often up to 0.2% in the blood, while still not being indicative that the deceased had drank anything before death. Meaning that decomposition will lead to a false positive rather than a negative as they indicated here, meaning that they likely didn't test for it or didn't properly explain the results to whoever reported that. The lack of alcohol doesn't tell us much about when he died. One thing I cant find any information about is what clothes were on his body when it was found. If he was wearing the same clothes as when he left, then he likely didn't live long after taking off. If he was wearing something different that he owned, then he may have had a change of clothes from the plane or something else strange happened. If he was wearing something different but that no one recognized, then he may have been kidnapped and held for a while, dying much later and thus explaining the sudden appearance of the body. All of that is speculation, and it is in all likelihood that he was wearing the same clothes, but the fact that there's no mention of them opens the topic up for speculation.
@lurk7967
@lurk7967 2 жыл бұрын
0.02 is like having 1 beer... weird your body does that when it decomposes
@VerresNuts
@VerresNuts 2 жыл бұрын
​@@lurk7967 Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, but OP says 0.2%, so 2 per mill. In a living person that would mean pretty heavy drunkenness.
@fematrailer
@fematrailer 2 жыл бұрын
@@VerresNuts yes it is .2%
@nodancingpalmtrees7931
@nodancingpalmtrees7931 2 жыл бұрын
Hey OP, comments like yours are while I'm glad I read the comments on occasion. :) Thank you for this info!
@eh86055
@eh86055 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd piggyback a top comment to say this-is it possible that Gibbs somehow fell from the plane and got caught in a tree? That would explain why his body was untouched by animals & discovered in a fallen tree (as it would only have been clearly visible after the tree fell), and why the aircraft didn't crash close to where it was found.
@MateoVanHouten
@MateoVanHouten 2 жыл бұрын
I learned to fly in a 1967 Cessna 150 G, probably almost identical to the one in this story. From that perspective, here's my two cents. 1. It's literally impossible to "hide" inside a Cessna 150, let alone have a struggle inside one, surely not without someone noticing from outside - even in the dark. That cockpit is tiny, barely 38 inches wide. Imagine crouching inside half a phone booth, two tiny seats where you sit touching shoulders with the passenger (or co-pilot), your legs folded, minimal cargo space behind you - like less than a foot between the very low seats (with no headrest) and the inside wall. I would surely rule out an ambush since as soon as you poke your head inside it you're seeing the whole interior. Plus, the whole thing weighs less than 1000 lbs and rocks sideways with the slightest breeze, so if two men were struggling inside it it would shake violently. 2. Regarding the doors being "locked from the inside" - someone already said it here but they don't really lock from the inside. They latch shut when pushed, like a car door; and just like a car door, they are easily pushed shut by the wind when the plane is moving. I think (if I remember correctly) you can lock them with a key from the outside just to secure the cabin when you leave the plane but that's it. And nobody ever uses them! 3. A water ditching of a Cessna 150 is a shitshow. The water impact alone would most likely cause the kind of damage described by the guys who found it. Not so sure about the whole engine missing though, that could be fishermen's tales or just unexperienced eyes assessing damage. But the landing gear and wings could easily be blown away. On a final note, my personal theory is either some information is missing or inaccurate, or aliens. A parachute is impossible to miss in a ground-and-air search in such a small search area. And without one there's just no way to jump from a moving plane and not receive any damage.
@orbassasin
@orbassasin 2 жыл бұрын
Since I am not familiar with the cessna- would, in theory, a sudden updraft or similar, maybe combined with ice on the wings, cause the wings to detach? Or, alternatively, could the wind push the plane hard enough to jettison someone through the windshield? In either case, plane crashes into the sea, person falls out and lands in a tree.
@Voyager-mc8lg
@Voyager-mc8lg 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbecker9062 there is always space for aliens
@ayoubzahyo
@ayoubzahyo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Voyager-mc8lg argument from ignorance
@Voyager-mc8lg
@Voyager-mc8lg 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayoubzahyo the chance is not 0
@briantannenbaum8110
@briantannenbaum8110 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t think aliens exist you are clearly the ignorant one
@ChristianMcAngus
@ChristianMcAngus 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite a mystery, but reading through some of the comments I've come up with a scenario. Peter thought the plane was going to crash, and bailed out at very low level without a parachute. He hit the tree canopy, not hard enough to break bones but hard enough to stun him. He soon died of exposure, and his body stayed up in the branches. As it decayed, it shifted and eventually a gust of wind dislodged it. Meanwhile, his plane had flown on by himself and hit the water. Wind pressure had shut the door, and the impact jammed it shut, making it appear to be locked.
@richardwolf9149
@richardwolf9149 Жыл бұрын
There no altitude low enough where you could jump out of a plane and land in a tree without some type of broken bones unless ur plane was touching the tree tops
@jd749
@jd749 6 ай бұрын
Best theory!
@billyhigh4690
@billyhigh4690 6 ай бұрын
It’s a solid theory but as with all theories in this case there are problems no pilot would chose to jump out of a plane without a parachute unless it was on fire
@jackr2287
@jackr2287 4 ай бұрын
This is the most plausible scenario I think of. There isn’t enough for anything else, really. The stall speed is pretty low, and the conditions could push it even a little lower the the spec listed 58mph. Some of the voids and odd decisions filled out by intoxication and the confusion it perhaps generated.
@andrewyellstrom2585
@andrewyellstrom2585 18 күн бұрын
You can’t jump out of a plane at any altitude without a parachute and not have noticeable injuries.
@doko_kanada
@doko_kanada 2 жыл бұрын
I once lost a shoe in deep snow right outside my house. I searched through all my tracks for hours but couldn’t find it. Found it by accident 4 months later when the snow finally melted
@tumslucks9781
@tumslucks9781 6 ай бұрын
Do you live in Shoes-catcha-wan? 😁😂🇨🇦
@rabbitsonjupiter6824
@rabbitsonjupiter6824 6 ай бұрын
@tumslucks 😂😂😂
@limbeboy7
@limbeboy7 19 күн бұрын
That could explain the body being preserved....
@cactuscooler4003
@cactuscooler4003 Жыл бұрын
My immediate hunch when they found his body in the woods was this: -Sometime during the flight there was a catastrophic emergency -He was able to descend the plane to just above tree level -He jumped from the plane, hoping to use the trees to break his fall -He was knocked unconscious or died immediately upon hitting the trees -Sometime in the next few months, the tree fell over and that's when his body was found -The reason he wasn't found during the initial search is because he was dead at the top of a tree - the searchers would have walked right under his body and never knew he was up there EDIT: After he bailed out of the plane, it crash landed into the ocean.
@averageTaxiDriver
@averageTaxiDriver 6 ай бұрын
I think it went something like this but how didn't they find trauma on his body when he supposedly hit trees while at high speed?
@MasterDuelMax
@MasterDuelMax 6 ай бұрын
​@@averageTaxiDriverThey didn't find alcohol either despite drinking. Shitty autopsy
@averageTaxiDriver
@averageTaxiDriver 6 ай бұрын
@@MasterDuelMax that's true but couldn't it be that they only checked his blood and bc he was alive/unconscious for a while it had been over 6 hours so it wasn't noticable and as you said it was a bad autopsy so they didn't check anywhere else?
@thewildfolk6849
@thewildfolk6849 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I’m thinking similar. Due to the decomposition the injury may have been difficult to assess
@averageTaxiDriver
@averageTaxiDriver 6 ай бұрын
@@thewildfolk6849 yup has to be something like this.
@Queequeg61
@Queequeg61 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty much standard practice to idle your engine for at least ten minutes, usually a bit more, to bring your engine oil up to temp before you take off.
@richardrahl9371
@richardrahl9371 2 жыл бұрын
200 people sounds like much, but it's easier to miss a body than it seems.
@KyleElyk1I
@KyleElyk1I 2 жыл бұрын
Right.. You don’t notice the body, until you notice the body
@neutrin0329
@neutrin0329 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleElyk1I this is honestly the best way to put it lol
@richardrahl9371
@richardrahl9371 2 жыл бұрын
You three hit the nail on the head.
@sw02694
@sw02694 2 жыл бұрын
For real. I’ve been dead for 9 years at Waffle House and no one has noticed me yet.
@richardrahl9371
@richardrahl9371 2 жыл бұрын
@@sw02694 At least you're able to use their WLAN.
@dylvasey
@dylvasey 2 жыл бұрын
I think people have forgotten one thing. How do we now his autopsy report was even accurate? It would explain everything if in fact it was incorrect.
@yeetandskeet
@yeetandskeet 2 жыл бұрын
A planes doors being "locked from the inside" seem like something that should be ignored. Its much more likely they were just stuck shut after the crash.
@pereirafernando7413
@pereirafernando7413 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. But then, it could entirely be misinformation, which was even more common back then.
@ulture
@ulture 2 жыл бұрын
'no bite marks were found on his body' *shows picture of a wolf* well yeah, it's pretty unlikely any wolves ate him. In Scotland.
@pinkmoon4211
@pinkmoon4211 6 ай бұрын
2 legged wolfs in Glasgow
@caseyd9471
@caseyd9471 2 жыл бұрын
This one is so bizarre that I feel like something has to be missing from the story. Maybe a mix of incompetence, bad reporting, and embellishment from witnesses. It's the only thing that makes sense to me as things stand. I've seen other theories, like he was already dead when the plane took off and it was someone else, but that goes back to how was he killed without signs of injury/poison, and why would that person still take off in that kind of weather? I've seen the idea that he told Felicity he would fly low if he lost track of the airfield and jump out of the plane, and he did that before dying of exposure as the plane flew itself until it crashed into the water, but again, you don't have to fall/jump from far to cause injury to yourself, and I don't know how far a plane like that can stay in the air without a pilot.
@theankotze1292
@theankotze1292 2 жыл бұрын
I think the autopsy was sketchy. I have zero proof of tjis of course. But the fact that he just magically died with seemingly no cause is kinda sus to me. Now of course people point out exposure, but if they can't find proof of poison, how do they know it's exposure?(of course I'm not a pathologist either, but still, kinda sus)
@caseyd9471
@caseyd9471 2 жыл бұрын
@@theankotze1292 I think exposure is a default thing. If you're found out in the elements with no other sign indicating cause of death, it's exposure. There's not really postmortem signs of that as far as I know.
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people commenting that he had to have an ulterior motive for flying because no experienced pilot would risk taking that kinda flight in those conditions.
@caseyd9471
@caseyd9471 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cadaber that makes sense to me too, because otherwise one would think his girlfriend would be more opposed to the idea.
@dr.coomer789
@dr.coomer789 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseyd9471 yeah I find it kinda sus how especially she didn’t try to stop him (unless it wasn’t mentioned in the video). She just went with him to the runway
@shiomicchi7247
@shiomicchi7247 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, we actually have a friend who lives on the isle of Mull and we spend a lot of our half-term holidays over there! Had no idea that something like this had happened on such a small island that I have personal connections to! Thank you for this amazing video!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@thomastalbot1953
@thomastalbot1953 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I lived there for 2 years and when I saw the title I was like, yo this can’t be true !
@tbmdd
@tbmdd 2 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is we?
@Darkshot-yb8px
@Darkshot-yb8px 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbmdd they most likely meant I but typed we out of excitement lol
@ATLTraveler
@ATLTraveler 2 жыл бұрын
No one cares
@wafflemypancakesuponthesun875
@wafflemypancakesuponthesun875 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore the ambiance you create for every video, it really takes me away and guides the story. Comment for the algorithm!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you! I appreciate that
@ohno8398
@ohno8398 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment put it better than I ever could, Cadaber's videos are like windows into another world
@dollarstorecookie3938
@dollarstorecookie3938 2 жыл бұрын
It makes the story flow really nicely
@cal6738
@cal6738 2 жыл бұрын
But like the sponsor doesn’t really set a good tone ngl
@Kuronosa
@Kuronosa 2 жыл бұрын
...Can I just say that I like your name, and find it hilarious?
@rattoota
@rattoota 2 жыл бұрын
About the theory he was ambushed inside the plane before take-off: Maybe they weren't intentionally waiting for anyone and were just caught while trying to steal the plane? Maybe there was a struggle and they forced him into compliance then later abandoned him in the woods to find his own way back but ended up dying from exposure.
@reedman0780
@reedman0780 2 жыл бұрын
@Central Intelligence Agency Havent watched the whole thing yet, but I doubt they destroy the plane. Rather, they still stole it, gutted it, and prolly sold it by part. No sign of struggle since the people trying to steal the plane had weapons and his life was in danger. Maybe even held at gunpoint. Theres also the chance of the thieves knowing how to fly the plane and did it somewhere, or dropped him off there and he died by exposure. Edit: Plane was found, so Im thinking they gutted it (missing engine, they're heavy and no wave could just take em off like that) and just thrown it there either from ground or from air, most likely by something. high enough to cause damage that looks like its a crash, maybe a crane?
@jasonvargas7564
@jasonvargas7564 2 жыл бұрын
@Central Intelligence Agency you tell me, Central Intelligence Agency. You tell me.
@fields_of_regret
@fields_of_regret 2 жыл бұрын
@@reedman0780 how the body wasn't found in the location it was later reported when it was centainly searched in that area by a lot of people?
@reedman0780
@reedman0780 2 жыл бұрын
@@fields_of_regret this one can be disputed. We have had searches as close as a few meters yet when they found the body, everyone claims that it has been an area that's "been searched extensively". It is very simple to overlook such a thing especially at night, even at day its full of bushes and stuff. Im guessing the body was found because the guy war DIRECTLY going into the direction of it, then stumbled on him directly below.
@reedman0780
@reedman0780 2 жыл бұрын
@Central Intelligence Agency could be, but a theory is a theory thats still to be proven. What if, he was exhausted? Theres no sign of struggle, it could be he was actually dropped off somewhere else then he walked until he cant anymore, and or died to exposure, from when he was resting, right atop a log.
@creativedesignation7880
@creativedesignation7880 2 жыл бұрын
After having heard about countless 411 missing person cases, I am no longer surprised that people are not found in the woods. We have a small forest in our city, it is really well managed and you can locate a street at any point just by listening to it and I am still certain someone could go missing in it. Simply because some areas are incredibly dense and it features a couple small ravines, if someone were to lay there, you would need to stand in very specific spots to see them, add some autumn leaves and nothing short of a tracker dog would ever find them. So I find it not surprising at all the he might have been laying on that tree for months right next to the hotel.
@Lukkilikka
@Lukkilikka 2 жыл бұрын
Especially since they were looking for a plane, not a person.
@wompppwompwomppp
@wompppwompwomppp Жыл бұрын
@@Lukkilikka that's a great point
@deferencetodusk
@deferencetodusk 2 жыл бұрын
One criticism I have of this is you saying he "chose to just lie down and die of exposure" and "why didn't he just keep walking to the hotel" That's not how dying of exposure works. You slowly lose energy to the point where you literally can't move anymore, likely collapse, and can't get yourself to stand back up or even crawl. You're completely sapped of your life and it happens a lot faster than people think it would. The fact that it was snowing and he had been drinking adds to this, a lot of people die from exposure because they're leaving a bar and drunk brain thinks "oh I'll just lay here for a minute". Also, I don't think the idle time is really that weird. For one thing, all pilots know you have to do a preflight check, where you're moving the controls and verifying everything works. For another, Cessna 150s have a heater system like a car's, where the heat entering the cabin comes from the engine and the engine has to warm up before you really get warm air coming in. Speaking of flight controls, as others said this is at night in the snow with no protective de-icing spray on the plane. Commercial airline planes get this, but this is far from airline shit especially decades ago. The plane easily could have iced up and he lost control. How his body ended up how and where it did is definitely a confusing mystery though. Good video!
@SuperSMT
@SuperSMT 2 жыл бұрын
to add: one mile may not sound like a lot, but a cold snowy forest in the middle of the night is a VERY easy place to get lost in
@scottwatrous
@scottwatrous 2 жыл бұрын
A few thoughts: just because doors were "locked" doesn't mean they were deliberately locked. Its been a long time since flying a Cessna but if I recall the door latch is a piddly little thing. Let's aay he jumped out and let the airplane fall into the ocean, there's a good chance wind blast would have slammed the doors back shut before it even hit the water, and even if they were only partially latched, the aircraft smacking into the water would shock them shut more. There's another possibility that he somehow survived a ditching and busted out the windshield then tried to walk back, but seems a ways to go. I'd have to look at a map but seems he'd find someone nearby. If he was part of some smuggling operation it's possible maybe he picked up someone waiting at the airstrip, and they shoved him out after takeoff. Then later on dumped the plane? So mamy theories and they're all probably rubbish but for sure the doora being locked doesn't seem to be evidence against much since that could happen on its own.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
I think he was just drunk and decided it would be a good idea, the plane had mechanical issues (or he became disoriented) and crashed. He was still compos mentis enough to realise the peril he was in, somehow escaped and had a medical episode on his walk back. Given he was drunk, likely in shock and it was a bitterly cold night he could well have suffered a medical episode, lay against the tree to gather himself, then died. Possibly of exposure. The medical reports have likely been misunderstood or misinterpreted. It's not always the case that alcohol will show up in the body in the way that people think it will, and especially not with the "forensic" techniques available in rural Scotland in 1975. There are also plenty of perfectly natural causes of death which won't show up sometime afterwards and cannot be proven.
@staceyn2541
@staceyn2541 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree, people think the latch is far more complicated than it is. I remember being in a small plane and the door latch was practically the same as our garden gate at home. It really did not make me feel secure.
@williama386
@williama386 2 жыл бұрын
I fly cessnas everyday. He could of climbed out grabbed the strut and left the window open. Shut the door locked it and than closed the window and banged on it until it also latched. This would help ensure he wouldn’t be able to get back in. Committing to his suicide. Another option is that he had gone outside to get ice off of his windshield or other parts of the aircraft. And then fell. Who knows!
@PRH123
@PRH123 2 жыл бұрын
Yes having ditched the airframe would have deformed and a diver pulling once on the door underwater X years later might think it’s locked. It’s neither here nor there in the end as to why he wasn’t in the plane.
@davidgil6485
@davidgil6485 2 жыл бұрын
If he was part of a smuggling operation, I'm sure the police would be able to find at least some confirmation about it. There is so little information in this video, I don't know if it's because it simply hasn't been released to the public or because the author wanted to make it more mysterious, but it's difficult to say anything about the case with the evidence given.
@Skejzen
@Skejzen 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like Nexpo, im literally binge watching every Internet mystery i can find
@jasonvargas7564
@jasonvargas7564 2 жыл бұрын
Much better than Nexpo. Nexpo keeps making…… … …. …..awkward……. …. ……..pauses while narrating. So annoying
@tbag6600
@tbag6600 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonvargas7564 I really like Nexpos content. even with his weird pauses lol
@Skejzen
@Skejzen 2 жыл бұрын
@@tbag6600 Nexpo’s content is original and intrigueing as hell
@picturethis8611
@picturethis8611 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonvargas7564 The reason that his narration sounds like that is because it's not actually him talking it's a program that narrates for him. It kind of takes me out of the story because I know it's not an actual person narrating. My other issue with this content is that he always has a Reddit angle to things which is honestly just kind of cringy a lot of the the time. Lemino is significantly better in my opinion.
@counterfeit1148
@counterfeit1148 2 жыл бұрын
@@picturethis8611 Didn't know that
@airindiana
@airindiana 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of points having flown 150s. The doors don’t have an internal “lock”. They have a a measly little latch mechanism. Having tried it if you opened one of the two feather weight doors in flight (against the airstream) it would blow instantly back and latch to some degree. It wouldn’t be locked internally though. You could still open a functional door from the inside. Just latched like your car door is, you need to pull a handle, only a lot less secure. One aspect I can’t recall is whether when the pilot closes the door and stows the interior handle it disables the exterior handle. The other thing I can’t say I ever tried is if someone locked the door from the outside using the door key, if someone could over ride that by using the internal door handle (a very improbable scenario in flight!) Either way a pilot can’t lock his own self in by mistake. He’d be able to open the door from the inside, provides the door wasn’t jammed. It’s highly likely the doors were closed on impact and deformation of the aluminium door surround meant a diver just couldn’t open them. Impact damage. These aircraft are quite fragile really, albeit aluminium and on hitting water even at slow near stall speeds they do tend to have damage like wings coming off, gear being ripped out. Unless the cabin is squashed these things aren’t a sign that the pilot would be killed by impact forces alone. Quite the opposite. A lot of the energy is absorbed by the aircraft. They touch down quite slowly. What tends to get people ditching high wing aircraft is as pointed out they bump their head on the instrument panel when they contact the water and lose consciousness, or they just can’t get out as the aircraft settles on its wings in the water and the doors are difficult to open. It’s one reason why in ditching many light aircraft the checklist calls for doors to be opened ajar prior to impact. Interior/hiding. Not feasible. They’re dinky inside. There are no spaces for someone to hide and not be spotted. The only space is behind the seats and it’s tiny. You’d definitely notice a human there when getting in. Their mass would protrude up over the seats and against the rear window. There have been a few cases of people jumping out of cessna’s to take their own lives ( not saying it’s a Cessna thing 😂 it’s a common aircraft to hire). It could be this chap just for whatever reason left the cabin in flight, the door blew shut in the airstream and the aircraft flew on to crash into the water. Or perhaps he decided to do something foolish for fun like open the door and try and lean out. Who knows. He could’ve fallen to Earth and landed in trees. As for no impact damage on the body. Well I don’t know how good autopsy’s back then we’re at spotting it in bodies that were months old. People have fallen to earth and had no visible external signs of trauma, the damage being internal bleeding. Or perhaps he landed in trees and later fell. That’s the only questionable bit for me. All the aircraft technical aspects are explainable without deviating into fantastic theory. I think it’s more likely he left the aircraft for whatever reason prior to impact. How he came to be where he was found with no signs of trauma. That’s the slightly mysterious side for me. Like any mystery when it’s realised how it happens it’s a lot less mundane than supposed.
@Cyaneyed77
@Cyaneyed77 2 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of an old family mystery. What would have been my Great Uncle went missing flying North of Scotland during the Second World War, never recovered (eta - not during combat, he was part of a formation checking for German subs, and just never returned to base). I did some research a few years ago, thinking maybe it could be solved with modern techniques, but very quickly found that his kind of aircraft (a Swordfish IIRC) was scarily flimsy and likely just fell apart the moment it hit the sea.
@braeden9606
@braeden9606 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say, I'm digging the new logo
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m so pleased with the end result.
@lonesome3958
@lonesome3958 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@lonesome3958
@lonesome3958 2 жыл бұрын
@@sossage lmao true
@Sad-Lesbian
@Sad-Lesbian 2 жыл бұрын
Cadaber, Nexpo and Chill Fuel all uploading within days of each other? Yes please.
@txtology
@txtology 2 жыл бұрын
this was a weird one. a very weird one. very happy to see cadaber's back, though. :) it's hard to find videos covering internet and real-world mysteries that i haven't already heard of, but it seems like cadaber always has my back and shows you something new. i really love this channel.
@DiplexHeated
@DiplexHeated 2 жыл бұрын
It’s well made and all but the thumbnails scream LEMMiNO
@flyingpancake3983
@flyingpancake3983 2 жыл бұрын
Eh. I think the colors are similar but his is more simplistic than cadaber
@DiplexHeated
@DiplexHeated 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw another bigger channel with the same style, hard to say who inspired who but the smaller channels usually get the short end of the stick.
@ir0n392
@ir0n392 2 жыл бұрын
Whether the thumbnail style was inspired by/or similar to LEMMiNO really doesn’t bother me, the content is what I stay for and both of their channels release quality videos
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck 2 жыл бұрын
@@DiplexHeated I don't think it's unfair to say that he's borrowed/copied/whatever the idea for the style from Lemmino. But so have a dozen other big channels that do mystery videos. It's just good marketing, if all the channels establish a canon look, something they all use, it means viewers are more likely to move between the channels and watch other creators. Is it absolutely 'leeching' off of Lemmino? Yes, absolutely. These channels all owe that guy a huge debt of gratitude for establishing the genre, and Lemmino is absolutely the King, but people are always going to be inspired by other creators. Just as long as these other channels never try to claim they weren't inspired by Lemmino, I don't have a problem with it.
@SpitFactsAndThenDontReply
@SpitFactsAndThenDontReply 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Gymlan been doing thumbnails like that for years
@joshtaubert7369
@joshtaubert7369 2 жыл бұрын
Aviation-related or otherwise, this is easily one of the most baffling mysteries I've ever heard about. How he managed to end up on that tree completely intact - kind of gives me chills. Thank you for this video. I look forward to watching more of your work in the future.
@johnball320
@johnball320 Жыл бұрын
I think the suicide theory is most plausible. Sure, it was said that the plane was locked from the inside, but do we know that for sure? Or was it just assumed because the discoverers couldn't open it? Sure, there was no parachute found, but Peter could have deposited it somewhere else and walked a bit, then succumbed to the environment. In the meantime, the parachute had blown away or was stuffed into a crack in a rock or something. Someone else here has said that no alcohol in toxicology is not unsurprising.
@ivanakarastoeva7061
@ivanakarastoeva7061 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a great plot for an Agatha Christie book
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@TheHackersboss
@TheHackersboss 2 жыл бұрын
Can u tell me which character is your profile pic from? I see it a lot
@kam2894
@kam2894 2 жыл бұрын
whos your pfp
@badwolf7367
@badwolf7367 2 жыл бұрын
Hercule Poirot in "Sky Pirate of Mull".
@sagivaleon7355
@sagivaleon7355 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHackersboss She's Ayame Kajou from Shimoneta. That screenshot specifically is from 12ep at 10:33.
@dinodonut5776
@dinodonut5776 2 жыл бұрын
I think everyone really underestimates just how deadly the elements are. When it’s snowing outside, below freezing, and you’re not wearing winter gear, “only a mile” might as well be 50 miles. Cold temperatures and even mildly rough terrain can be extremely deadly. Also, even a mild impact could have caused severe damage to the plane. It would also be hard to tell from a dive, especially just one dive with no good photos taken. I think it’s likely he took off, was unable to find the landing strip again, and decided to purposely ditch into the water because it’s better than ditching into the ground or a tree. He was able to get out of the plane but simply succumbed to the elements quickly, especially if he got wet.
@dukstokes660
@dukstokes660 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't get wet they did tests.on his clothes and he never had saltwater on any of his clothes
@pereirafernando7413
@pereirafernando7413 2 жыл бұрын
I think he succumbed to the elements quickly due to shock from jumping out of the plane or letting it crashed.
@petegreaves6791
@petegreaves6791 2 жыл бұрын
He was found 16wks later after been out in snow.. an the 1970 werent renound for top level forensics.. Also lochs contain high levels of fresh water so potentially explaining results. He ditched.. swam to shore an died later at some point of exposure...
@andysix246
@andysix246 6 ай бұрын
Good analogy, but there was no evidence of marine life on his clothing, which would rule being submerged or even swimming on the sea 🤫
@Fluxwux
@Fluxwux 5 ай бұрын
@@andysix246idk being covered in snow and decomposition could easily have washed all traces of saltwater and marine organisms off him during 4 months, especially traces potentially faulty 1970s forensics could identify anyway. Due to him being found on land without broken bones and other trauma he must have crash landed or jumped in the water with no noticiable injuries over water and then swam to shore where he died of hyperthermia while disoriented and at his last limits after swimming to shore on pure adrenaline. I also think snow could have covered him during the search party (that’s why they conveniently found him once the snow just had melted) and probably the search party actually didn’t look hard enough due to the 99% chance he was elsewhere at the moment.
@SmokeBreakStudios
@SmokeBreakStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Anything involving an airplane is instantly 10 times cooler.
@gopnikinadidas6333
@gopnikinadidas6333 2 жыл бұрын
agree, but if im on board and an accident happens is instantly 10 times not cool
@skyboy4341
@skyboy4341 2 жыл бұрын
@@gopnikinadidas6333 tf is your pfp
@pereirafernando7413
@pereirafernando7413 2 жыл бұрын
@@skyboy4341 Seems to be anime pfp.
@flexygoo1295
@flexygoo1295 2 жыл бұрын
Ditched in water and died of hypothermia trying to walk back in the cold. Seems like the most plausible
@terracotta3401
@terracotta3401 2 жыл бұрын
No signs of trauma tho.. how did he ditch in the water without any trauma?
@therodyman700
@therodyman700 2 жыл бұрын
Like the other guy said, no signs of trauma, he would have had to break the windshield AFTER crashing the plane into the water then swim to shore. He would have drowned
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
@@therodyman700 We don't know how the windscreen got broken. Could have happened years later due to water pressure or a boat anchor and that's not how he escaped in the first place...
@bills6093
@bills6093 2 жыл бұрын
@@therodyman700 Windshield is just acrylic plastic. About 1/8" thick.
@EllDub
@EllDub 2 жыл бұрын
None of you guys are pilots I take it? A water ditching by a skilled pilot in 150 Cessna is gonna be sloooooow, especially with him being solo and the aircraft being lightly loaded. Pulled off correctly he could've ditched and simply gotten out.
@peritojonatas
@peritojonatas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'd love to add a few comments as I work in crime scene forensics. I honestly think you might have given the autopsy report too much credit as far as the allegations of no signs of seawater and the toxicology report. We obviously don't know the depth of the microscopic analysis of the victims clothing or if there even was one, same for testing hair for poison or alcohol. Even now those aren't routine so Occam's razor to me points out to these being the likely "holes" in the story.
@BlightBreedOfficial
@BlightBreedOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Peter got drunk, had high confidence, wanted to have a night flight. Crashed into the water by accident, which broke the windshield. Before the plane sunk, he jumped out of the broken window (hence why the doors were locked from the inside) Swam to shore. Didn’t know how to get back to the hotel due to all the snow. Died due to hyperthermia. Body didn’t decompose because he was essentially frozen by the snow. Snow eventually let up, and his body was found 🤷‍♂️
@mattymayhem1232
@mattymayhem1232 2 жыл бұрын
There was no seawater or organisms on his body though. Which would have shown on the autopsy reports.
@fredrva667
@fredrva667 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking.
@BlightBreedOfficial
@BlightBreedOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattymayhem1232 Sea water would’ve froze on his body and mixed with the ice and snow. When it all melted that also came off. I don’t know. Just throwing out a reasonable theory 🤷‍♂️
@ssshukla26
@ssshukla26 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlightBreedOfficial exactly... Melting snow can clean up lot of things... He might not have died on the same night... It might be a couple of days... The body could have loose all the alcohol content... Don'tknow about hair... But I assume he lost control, let plane dive onto water, jumped and met his fate later...
@benjaminrichey278
@benjaminrichey278 6 ай бұрын
No saltwater on his person
@Danilego
@Danilego 2 жыл бұрын
Cadaber: "some theories are more believable, and others... more outlandish" Me: *stares at Aliens guy*
@foxracing8973
@foxracing8973 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for covering a story that isn't widely known and I always really enjoy a good aerial or ship mystery 😊 Congrats on your channel getting bigger, I have been with you from the start and I'm happy to see you getting more subs!🥰
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’ve stuck with the channels growth
@lukehunter6457
@lukehunter6457 2 жыл бұрын
Cadaber - I am so psyched to see you posting videos again, you are my favorite youtube channel 💙
@billblaski9523
@billblaski9523 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MimoriAzume
@MimoriAzume 2 жыл бұрын
@@billblaski9523 ur welcome
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@rationalbacon5872
@rationalbacon5872 2 жыл бұрын
Dabbing Skeleton is back, right on time. Thanks man.
@sreed8570
@sreed8570 2 жыл бұрын
Here's my stab at this one. A very experienced but also drunken pilot, decide's to take a flight on christmas eve. Shortly after take off there is an upset, most likely a gust of wind causing the plane to tip sideway's nearly 90 degree's. I know that sound's excessive but ive had that happen to me during my training. At this time the pilot is ejected from the plane because he did'nt belt in. Airplane's are inherently stable, it's not unusual for the wing's to level by themselve's after such an event. He falls to the ground but land's in a tree and is stuck high off the ground there for some time. That would explain why he was'nt found during the searche's. After a while his dead body is shaken loose from the tree or the tree that he is on fall's. Then he is found. The plane continue's flying for some time and crashe's into the water, found later.
@karensills42
@karensills42 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I think too
@aniketpandey2007
@aniketpandey2007 2 жыл бұрын
He was in a state of overconfidence perhaps all the more enhanced with consumption of Alcohol. (It happens, yall know). However when he was up there he realized he had bitten off more than what even the legendary red baron could ever have chewed. Not only was there a storm brewing but it was also nighttime. As his senses allowed him to take a better stock of the situation, he realized he had to take the call. Landing was impossible but he wasn't too far from where he had taken of - Make the jump now and try and make it back to the hotel or stick with the plane and die an inevitable death. Comeon, how the hell are you supposed to keep flying? Sticking with the aircraft was certain death. Jumping gives you lets say if not much a 1% chance of survival and in such a condition people who are just above average brave are more than 90% likely to take the chance. He was far above average and took it. Though I agree this negates the door theory but I argue that could have been the result of environmental or accidental factors or maybe deterministic error on part of the divers/forensic experts trying to ascertain state of doorlocks that have been submerged for some 11 years. (and never retrieved either - as you said). Dude ejects somewhere close to the point the plane crashed, lands safely, discards his parachute and makes his way back. Lets not forget he is a seasoned vet and can still utilize the surroundings to prod his way back to the hotel. He was fatigued but was sure getting close, however, tragedy to have it, he succumbed mother nature's seasonal whims just a mile away from the glorious life that awaited him ahead. As you say the body was found when snow receeded - perfectly fine explanation for how it was found well preserved and undisturbed by wildlife - it remained buried and frozen - reason why earlier search parties couldnt find it (apart from 100 other reasons like having not covered the spot in the first place.) Resonates?
@nunwrestling
@nunwrestling 2 жыл бұрын
this seems most plausible, at least way more plausible then the other theories. There is the issue of the missing parachute but things are simply just not found all the time. also the odd things in the plane beforehand could easily be explained as he was drunk and just reacting a bit slower then normal.
@ssjjshawn
@ssjjshawn 2 жыл бұрын
@@nunwrestling If what someone else said was true, and he was flying low to the ground, it is possible he was able to simply jump from the plane and have his fall broken by nearby tree limbs. The built up snow and pine needles may have acted as enough of a buffer that his clothes were not torn apart, and the autopsy simply missed the damage he did take from a fall like that. This was a autopsy a few months after the fact, it is possible internal bleeding and organ trauma happened, but was misidentified due to internal decomposition of said organs. (While Ice preserves the outside skin and nearby muscles very well, it doesn't tend to do the same for more shelled internal organs. This also explains why alcohol wasn't found in the body, as while technically after you die some alcohol is made in your decomposition it doesn't last very long). If he mostly took the hits to his stomach, that may have stopped broken bones, and caused the organ trauma and internal bleeding. Adrenalin after that, along with alcohol in his system may have allowed him to walk away from those few broken branches, but as it fades away and the storm hits, he feels the damage he has and knows he won't make it back. So he lies down and dies to his wounds and the cold. As for how the plane was locked, like other say thats just how the door latch always works for that model. And it most likely continued to coast with the help of the storm possibly out to sea for a bit until it crashed into the sea, where a very light plane like that is always going to be catastrophic when it hits the water. I'll bet its mostly misidentification of organ trauma and internal bleeding as instead internal decomposition in the autopsy thats the big sticker.
@coltrueg
@coltrueg 2 жыл бұрын
I really like these last couple plane mystery videos. Great content as always but I think this was your best video yet.
@pottingsoil723
@pottingsoil723 2 жыл бұрын
Love the work Cadaber! Keep it up :)
@thishandleistacken
@thishandleistacken 2 жыл бұрын
Wow... how have I never heard of this mystery? This is a truly bizarre tale. Thanks for sharing. Certainly something to look into and try and wrap my head around. I do feel like he was likely involved in crime or covert ops of some kind... but it doesn't entirely make sense and I'll have to do more research.
@teetom2740
@teetom2740 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I stumbled across your channel. Awesome content and production. Thanks
@somerandominternetuser5730
@somerandominternetuser5730 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot, but my grandpa is and I've been in the cockpit of single engine planes before. Is it possible that the long stretch of him idling the plane was for a system check? I remember them taking a long time, but that could just be my younger brain making it seem like it was longer than it was. Also is it possible that something like what happened in the book Hatchet took place? For those who don't know in the book the main character gets stranded in Canada after the pilot has a heart attack and dies, crashing the plane. I have not watched the full video yet and I'll come back to edit my comment when I am, if I change my mind on anything that is. Edit: ok so discount the hatchet thing lol
@nataly6259
@nataly6259 2 жыл бұрын
Preflight checklists can take up some time, but anyone in aviation knows that, and they are mandatory and a requirement before taking off. I don’t think they’d make a point of him idling for longer than usual if it was just a preflight check, even if something was shotty (which can take longer) you usually have to get out and check things anyways. Edit: to clarify more info
@Hirosjimma
@Hirosjimma 2 жыл бұрын
oh dang thanks for reminding me of that book! I read it when I was younger, I loved it.
@razona5139
@razona5139 Жыл бұрын
Idling for a long time is pretty standard in cold weather, for any vehicle.
@cannonfodder-xh7ew
@cannonfodder-xh7ew 2 жыл бұрын
It's always a good day whenever you upload. But this one fucked with me so bad?? I've watched a lot of videos like these but never have I ever found one that left me so confused and without even a proper theory to hold on to. Keep up the great work, looking forward for more!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
I was telling my friends this is the first case where I legitimately have zero idea of how it happened.
@4crafters597
@4crafters597 2 жыл бұрын
"How to fake your death and get a free Cessna at the same time"
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how far you've come either, Dab! Well...ok I lie, I can believe it. I remember commenting on one of your earliest videos that I was happy to have found your channel so young, and that I was certain you'd take off. Looks like I was right, nyeh heh heh. It's not every day you get to see the genesis of a great new channel, and watch it grow like this. I'm really glad I've been with you this whole time, and I know you're going to continue to grow from here. I'm really proud of you, dude.
@TheHackersboss
@TheHackersboss 2 жыл бұрын
Great atmosphere, killer soundtrack, great video. I'm now subbed and waiting for more!
@noswaldan
@noswaldan 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos ! They’re so good.
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
So he was a veteran airman but went out in poor conditions? It was dark, there were no lights, it was freezing (Isle of Mull can be really cold), where there would’ve been ice on the wings, not using anti icing…? Those are dangerous conditions for flying, an experienced airman would know that. The planes potential wreckage site is thought to be around Oban, and as someone from the Highlands, I can tell you that Oban can get extremely windy, which can cause unsafe flying. Regarding his body being away from the plane, he could’ve done a water ditching and got out the water to walk, and died of exhaustion/exposure? A water ditching can cause an aircraft to suffer a lot of damage, just a thought. This would make sense with folk not finding him, as in he wouldn’t have been there when they looked in that area, and eventually reached that area on foot? I know they didn’t find sea water on his clothing, but it is something that would make sense tbh
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 2 жыл бұрын
@Gareth Ma well the case does scream of negligence and back then the police weren’t the best, and there have been plenty cases historically where police have gotten something wrong, hence why I’m curious why a water ditching isn’t a popular theory
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZombieSazza This was rural policing in 1970s Britain. They wouldn't have had the right training or equipment to handle this properly, nor would they really have cared too much (small children excepted). Back in those days this sort of thing would just be considered "oh well your fault lol", especially if it was an adult male. Compared to today, police procedure of old was utter crap and it's perfectly likely they just missed something important. And don't forget it was Christmas Day and many of them wouldn't have wanted to be there.
@Xolopicayotl
@Xolopicayotl 2 жыл бұрын
@Gareth Ma if it was snowing he could have been 3 feet from them and they might not have known. And that explains the lack of injuries. I’ve only ever experienced that kind of snow once and it’s really something else. Even in a house with multiple blankets you can freeze to death. If he crashed in the ocean and the autopsy was wrong about that due to the time and conditions, and he was wet when he was trying to walk it would be very fatal even to a seasoned Scotsman.
@br-v388
@br-v388 2 жыл бұрын
In order for him to make ashore after a water landing in mid-December in Scotland, he would've had to set down incredibly gently right off a beach. The plane, or parts of it, would've either washed ashore or been spotted in the shallows afterwards. This is also an incredibly slim possibility as ditching a small plane at night, in a snowstorm is likely to result in a fatal impact.
@whoons4701
@whoons4701 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel was in my recommended 20 min ago and i already know i will like this channel !.
@gravymask
@gravymask 2 жыл бұрын
he was shot down by santa, of course.
@reald.j.u3261
@reald.j.u3261 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda miss the old logo , love the channel ♡
@scepticon1575
@scepticon1575 2 жыл бұрын
Having flown Cessna 150s before, I find it hard to believe the doors were locked shut from the inside. C150’s typically have a latch that’s openable from both sides and isn’t lockable, as the door is instead simply held closed by the sheer force of the airflow against it. Unless the specific ‘F150H’ variant had some sort of special lock on the doors that others don’t have, or the aircraft the divers found was in fact a different, but similar looking type that does in fact have lockable doors, the statement from them is either false or mistaken. Additionally, as other commenters have pointed out, Cessna 150s have no de-icing equipment, so for an experienced pilot aware of the risks of icing occurring at a temperature where snow was able to form, to then take off while drunk from an unlit airfield on a dark night, he must have either had a seriously urgent reason to do so, or a death wish.
@colindhowell
@colindhowell 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing special about the F150H; it's basically a standard 150H built by the French company Reims Aviation under license. Reims built licensed versions of the 150 starting with the 150F through the end of 150 production, as well as its successor, the 152. All of those licensed versions have designations that begin with "F".
@uneverjack158
@uneverjack158 2 жыл бұрын
You give, and I imagine somewhat on purpose, Nexpo and Barley Sociable vibes and I’m digging it! I love there styles and voice and your no different!
@Ju5Tice718
@Ju5Tice718 2 жыл бұрын
This is my new favorite channel. Great content especially the production..
@wfjhDUI
@wfjhDUI 2 жыл бұрын
Really seems like Gibbs simply ditched the plane at sea, swam ashore, and died of exposure. Either searchers overlooked his body or it became uncovered due to the change in season. Seawater and alcohol weren't detected because his body was outside for four months.
@dikshita5916
@dikshita5916 2 жыл бұрын
This gives me BuzzFeed Unsolved + Lemmino vibes. Great work, you just earned a subscriber :)
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard this case many times and it has got to be one of the strangest for sure Great job covering this I subbed 🔥👍✌️
@oliv9008
@oliv9008 2 жыл бұрын
Your editing improves with every single video ! I get super excited every time you upload something new. Stay awesome !
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it
@therodyman700
@therodyman700 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he switched with someone? it would explain the delay's, he could have walked the way there and had someone else fly the plane to some unkown place
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Plausible theory there.
@renderwren4284
@renderwren4284 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how plausible this is, but here’s a proposed sequence of events: 1. Gibbs flies the plane to a rendezvous location. He meets another pilot there. 2. The other pilot takes the plane, promising to return for Gibbs. 3. Due to the bad conditions, the other pilot crashes into the water. 4. Gibbs, realizing the pilot won't return, tries to get back on foot. I feel for all involved. This is such a tragic story regardless of the cause.
@renderwren4284
@renderwren4284 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ros7007 Good point! Maybe the other pilot was reported missing, but never connected to the case? Maybe they were from out of town, dropped off to meet with Gibbs. When the crash happened, the other pilot was lost to the sea. Another problem I didn't consider is the amount of time required for this plan. If Gibbs left at 9:30, and Granger reported him missing at 10:10, it sounds like Gibbs was supposed to be back in only 30 minutes. I don't know how big the Isle of Mull is, so maybe there also wasn't enough room for the plane to take off from the island and then land somewhere else on the same island?
@merseyviking
@merseyviking 2 жыл бұрын
@@renderwren4284 It's about 30 miles at its longest, so would take a Cessna about 15 mins or so. And it is not famous for its landing strips!
@merseyviking
@merseyviking 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon it was gun running for the IRA, either taking guns to the mainland for an attack en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#1970s or muleing the cash back. Something went south with the deal, he was taken hostage and his plane taken elsewhere. He escaped and died of exposure. The delay before taking off could have had him on the radio discussing the rendezvous.
@FirstNameLastName000
@FirstNameLastName000 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! More uploads on your channel! You're killing it!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
I’m getting back into the swing of things.
@landonlee9615
@landonlee9615 2 жыл бұрын
First time seeing your channel, dude it’s awesome!
@GeekRaj
@GeekRaj 2 жыл бұрын
I love mysteries and I have watched a lot of them. But I had never seen this one. Please make more like these lesser known mysteries.
@grace-4072
@grace-4072 2 жыл бұрын
feeling sick rn so thank u for the post todayt
@romekuibopuu2417
@romekuibopuu2417 2 жыл бұрын
i havent watched this yet but i know that this is gonna be epic
@jojosiwadrillremixmp3141
@jojosiwadrillremixmp3141 2 жыл бұрын
ty bro
@romekuibopuu2417
@romekuibopuu2417 2 жыл бұрын
shit this was scary
@OldDanTucker
@OldDanTucker 2 жыл бұрын
@@jojosiwadrillremixmp3141 thank you? Bruh you didn't make the video
@mercymylord9416
@mercymylord9416 Жыл бұрын
I bumped into this channel some weeks ago & after the very first episode I hit the subscribe button so hard it pressed charges
@difauth.
@difauth. 2 жыл бұрын
was waiting for this to appear, dunno if it was my comment from 7 months ago that helped you find this case. either way i’m happy
@ScoutSniperMC
@ScoutSniperMC 2 жыл бұрын
Took off with no ability to locate the landing strip, ditched the plane in the ocean (may have been knocked unconscious from the rough landing), wandered aimlessly towards civilization, passed out due to exhaustion and harsh conditions, ultimately succumbing to the cold. Reason no animals fed on his body is likely due to his final resting place being close to civilization which predators avoid.
@maryannredfern5954
@maryannredfern5954 2 жыл бұрын
Never had reason to wonder, but do animals care for human popsicles?
@br-v388
@br-v388 2 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone think that ditching a small plane at night, in a snowstorm in December, in the Irish Sea is something you just swim away from? If he went into the sea that night he would not have made it out.
@xxxstellarxxx
@xxxstellarxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Who’s gonna tell me why Peter Gibbs looks like a model?
@OysterBoyo
@OysterBoyo 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought. Must be the black and white picture, the very clean look, his jawline and his hair, this picture really looks like it came out from a shooting.
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
My friend said the EXACT same thing haha
@md95065
@md95065 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect that at least part of the reason is because the picture was taken by a professional photographer.
@edyzartz
@edyzartz 2 жыл бұрын
Found your channel out of nowhere! :) Great stuff, you earned a new sub! :D
@sallyforth7232
@sallyforth7232 2 жыл бұрын
This is such fascinating true mystery.. Thanks, Cadaber. 💥
@LeRequinBlue
@LeRequinBlue 2 жыл бұрын
It is indeed highly intriguing. I would say the great man Peter escaped from the aircraft with a parachute, fell in the snow. He possibly thought someone might locate him, being so near the hotel but he got exhausted by time he reached there during the snowing period. Being drunk and weary he succumbed to the elements. Destined to be hibernated he was found later.
@hrthrhs
@hrthrhs Жыл бұрын
That is possible although unlikely given he had no trauma. Would be very lucky for the snow to cushion his fall THAT much. Then the plane itself continued to fly, as it may have been properly trimmed, then crashed 1/2 km off shore.
@Derkman96
@Derkman96 2 жыл бұрын
the plane doors being "locked from the inside" seems like a red herring to me. I know nothing about airplanes but I imagine the doors must lock similarly to a car door. In other words, you could likely lock the door and close it and it would be locked. Also if an airplane was sitting underwater for eleven years how could a person tell if the doors were locked let alone "locked from the inside" rather than just being seized shut with rust/oxidation/underwater gunk?
@n-steam
@n-steam 2 жыл бұрын
Or that the locking mechanism wasn't triggered during the crash.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
The wreckage had been there for 11 years, so anything could have happened. Those locking latches weren't terribly strong and even the water pressure might have been enough to simply lock them in place, or push the door shut. The force of the impact would likely have done something in that regard. We also have no idea as to when the windscreen became broken. Could have happened years later for an innocuous reason, like struck by a boat anchor. You wouldn't have heard or felt anything onboard said boat as that happened, so long as it didn't become entangled in the airframe itself.
@Blublayze
@Blublayze 2 жыл бұрын
It's utter nonsense. Cessna doors don't 'lock' in the way described. There's multiple mechanisms that keep them from opening accidentally while in flight, but there's no way they couldn't be opened from the inside without some serious damage / warping to the door or frame.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blublayze So you're saying that they *could* be opened from the inside without damaging or warping being observed?
@northernspade1727
@northernspade1727 2 жыл бұрын
@@halfbakedproductions7887 Yes he's saying he could have jumped out of the plane using the door, because the door lock thing doesn't hold water.
@2pigsTV
@2pigsTV 2 жыл бұрын
been with you since 4k, keep going king
@mikaelwardhana2839
@mikaelwardhana2839 2 жыл бұрын
I am a pilot and also own a cessna 150. Let me tell you, there's not a lot of space in there for someone to hide and attack him. Even if someone was hiding covered in a blanket or something at the back, as a pilot you'd immediately know the plane doesn't climb as fast due to the added weight. So that can be ruled out.
@sobot_
@sobot_ 2 жыл бұрын
The chills.
@gliple
@gliple 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a pun?
@lady_k5588
@lady_k5588 2 жыл бұрын
What if it was like a "Misery" type situation? He was a handsome guy, so maybe he landed (or crashed) in a very remote area owned by some creepy person that kept him alive until *oops* they killed him. They would then of course drop him off somewhere close to where he came from and either ditch the plane in the water OR they repainted it. May sound stupid, but stranger things have happened.
@urdad9724
@urdad9724 2 жыл бұрын
These video's are made so well keep you deserve more subs
@Cottencandybrain
@Cottencandybrain 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!
@grace-4072
@grace-4072 2 жыл бұрын
i think the most likely of the theories you shared is the self-intended one… I can understand where that comes from
@lizc6393
@lizc6393 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand it as well... but as a random internet stranger, I am here to say, you are loved: to quote Max Erhmann, "You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars. You have a right to be here." Much love to you fellow traveler.
@SoelGriffin
@SoelGriffin 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely understand that place, but I've come to feel its better to stick around... You can always have that option as a last resort if you must, but you might miss something beautiful, something that makes having gone through all that, to be able to be coped with and maybe even to be healed or restored/ renewed/reinvigorated from experiencing that beautiful something
@Pood369
@Pood369 2 жыл бұрын
Abra Cadaber! Another awesome video, thanks!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@TheMightyPika
@TheMightyPika 2 жыл бұрын
Bless these absurdly handsome old school photo shoots.
@informitas0117
@informitas0117 2 жыл бұрын
Crash landed in a body of water, made camp to dry up and waited for rescue, none came, tried to walk back in the cold and perished. Poor guy. May he rest in peace.
@LoserwinS1
@LoserwinS1 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like the most logical explanation was that the body they discovered actually didn't belong to Peter, AKA either the features the investigators used to determine his identity were misinterpreted, or his identifying personal effects were planted on another body. The plane was never thoroughly searched so peter's corpse could very well still be inside.
@LeidenPierce
@LeidenPierce 2 жыл бұрын
When you mentioned him changing his mind back and forth about suicide, I would have pictured this: He did parachute out, then dropped his parachute when he landed. It was never found, but it's possible he dropped it outside of the forest, and it blew away somewhere. He then *tried* to go back to the hotel, but collapsed in the woods on the way because parachuting in freezing weather like that is going to take its toll on you.
@ninjaswordtothehead
@ninjaswordtothehead 2 жыл бұрын
Conditions were worse than he thought. Out of desperation, sans parachute, bailed out of the plane when low on gas;hoping to land on snow drifts. Landing on snow could impact enough to kill, without crushing injuries, or knock unconscious long enough to die of exposure. Once the snow melted, body was left on a log with no footprints and plane continued on to crash.
@KunaiAkali
@KunaiAkali 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God! Someone made a video based on a mystery outside of the US. Great video 👍
@lizc6393
@lizc6393 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is a hot take, but I like Cadaber considerably more than Nexpo and Slightly Sociable (I'm not saying they are bad channels.) I just think his stuff is legitimately superior. Cadaber's coverage of the Flannan Isles case was f-ing perfection, and clearly took A LOT of work. I cannot wait to see this channel blow up.
@Conradical316
@Conradical316 2 жыл бұрын
I like all of them
@Cottencandybrain
@Cottencandybrain 2 жыл бұрын
Nexpo make great videos as well that takes hours to make
@AngelFluff723
@AngelFluff723 2 жыл бұрын
Nexpo and Slightly are more theatrical in their presentation, where as Cadaber seems to prefer the meat of the story!
@danival5746
@danival5746 2 жыл бұрын
Hes definitely 100% on par with those big channels, I feel nexpo's narration leans into over dramatic sometimes it makes me roll my eyes, at worst it comes off as bad taste for more serious topics.
@Chiaomori
@Chiaomori 2 жыл бұрын
the fact he's already at 100k is crazy mans on the quick come up
@legosilenthill7688
@legosilenthill7688 2 жыл бұрын
Wow two so quick love this
@bossbaddiegames
@bossbaddiegames 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! New time watcher. I had NO CLUE this happened! I’ve been to Mull a few times: it’s a truly strange feeling place. I went a lot in the 90’s and early 2000s with family, by myself… it’s very hard to explain how different you feel on that island. But yeah I had no clue there was a “mystery” attached to the place. Awesome vid, my moneys on this being some criminal/organised crime thing. Though weapon smuggling? Gotta wonder where they’re coming in and where they’re going to:.
@labaplopdubloply6257
@labaplopdubloply6257 2 жыл бұрын
My opinion in cases like these people opt for mysterious or supernatural over a highly unlikely but perfectly possible series of events 1) Much like with drunk drivers the alcohol allowed him to escape a crash into the water injury free, kick out the window and escape 2) The reason no salt water was found was bc the falling snow landed on him, melted and diluted any traces of alternatively autopsy error 3) As he moved towards the hotel the search was expanding theoretically meaning there was a small window of time where the search was taking place while he was in the same area 4) His body was frozen covering up/limiting the smell of decomposition so predators weren’t attracted Addressing 3 and 4 maybe he was buried under snow so neither the search party nor animals could find him Well made video, it’s definitely unusual I just think it’s the result of a very specific unfortunate of events that may be unlikely but are entirely possible
@msmongooseable
@msmongooseable 2 жыл бұрын
Big laugh when the wolf was shown for 'local wildlife' on the Isle of Mull. What's going to eat a body in a tree on Mull? Sheep? Rabbits? Maybe a weasel?
@Hirosjimma
@Hirosjimma 2 жыл бұрын
apparently deer love to snack on dead peoples fingers. Weasels, marters, foxes, badgers or any sort of bird would definitely scavenge on the body.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 2 жыл бұрын
Insects?
@Jay_Leaf
@Jay_Leaf 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooo he changed his pfp at some point very noice 10/10 would see again
@dangavel1283
@dangavel1283 5 ай бұрын
The thoughtlessness of guys like this astound me, they simply never consider both the cost and the danger they put others who search for them will undergo.
@silenttoxic707
@silenttoxic707 2 жыл бұрын
I love your work man!
@Cadaber
@Cadaber 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
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