The Worst Medical Experiment in US History is Worse Than You Thought

[@TheLoreLodge]

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[@ryguy832]

And now they will not evan prescribe penicillin to anyone in the United States. How f ed is this country

[@lukegross7845]

Can you do a video on the Oklahoma bombing

[@LeastFav]

Also, where are my Wendigoon themed Raycons i love your scrub step seep

[@LeastFav]

Stepped

[@CleoHarperReturns]

Nice work, Aidans! Aidens? A-mens?🙄Anyway, love you guys!

[@panqueque445]

17:48 The miasma theory often gets a bad rep, because it's wrong. But for a time when they didn't know about bacteria and viruses, it's not bad. Everyone knows rotting and filthy things make you sick, so telling people to avoid that, even if for the wrong reasons, is a step in the right direction.

[@atashgallagher5139]

Yeah. Like the plague doctor masks actually worked pretty well, not because of the herbs and spices though I'm sure those helped with moral though. But they worked because they fully covered the face and were fairly good at keeping anything off of you. The whole body covering would've protected you a fair bit too especially for a disease that could spread via contact like bubonic plague.

[@lucieirl]

It definitely makes more sense in a treatment/PPE and prevention way than imbalanced humours! Although, medicine today still uses leeches and emetics etc so maybe even that theory was a step in the right direction 😅

[@tonyfriendly4409]

Same with malaria It literally means "bad air", our ancestors knew that spending time around a swamp was unhealthy, they just didn't understand why. They thought that the swamp air was making them sick, they didn't realize that it was mosquitoes.

[@ERSwanger]

Yes! You're right.

[@moonstoned420]

​@@atashgallagher5139 many herbs have compounds that will kill bacteria and viruses on contact, so breathing through a filter made of them would help more than plain fabric

[@willoughstewart2226]

Yet another example of "If you don't think the government would do that, oh yes they would."

[@seanjarvis1316]

Someone needs to make that a shirt

[@priceyindividual2995]

This is what I don't understand about people who dismiss all conspiracy theories out of hand. The powers that be conspiring to do bad things is the status quo, why would anyone believe that all of the sudden they had a change of heart?

[@ligikad]

​@@seanjarvis1316 Petition for it to be the next lore lodge merch

[@joshuas1834]

​@@seanjarvis1316 Great idea! We could list a bunch of the messed up things they've done on the other side of the shirt. Japanese internment camps, MK ultra, Waco, Ruby ridge, dragnet spying, the assassination of a child that was a United States citizen, etc.

[@wrongturnVfor]

nah, if you dont think the government would do that, they have dfinitely done worse

[@leegray2441]

I worked as a medic in Tuskegee, early 2000s. I had to build some serious trust with the citizens. The stories they told…

[@Merlin012001]

Clearly, they had good reason for distrust. Much like the uncontacted tribes around the world...

[@davybear4116]

As a Guatemalan-American the syphilis experiments are both painful and shameful. It is sad that one government did it, the other let it happen, and helpless people suffered as a consequence.

[@wrongturnVfor]

I dont think the Guatemalan government knew. But then again, they might not have cared because the jails were full of resistance that wanted to topple American propped dictators so...yeah

[@ERSwanger]

*the people who let it happen* They would have felt differently had it been *their* dad, uncle, brother, or friend.

[@davybear4116]

@@ERSwanger The other government who let it happen. It was the apparatus of the state which enabled them do commit such a terrible act.

[@Necrikus]

I often think, "why don't people trust doctors and modern medicine?" only for something like this to remind me.

[@paulsansonetti7410]

We have much better reasons than something that happened 80 years ago In 2014 Harvard said explicitly that 85-89% of all US pharmaceuticals fall between net harmful ( poison) to not one iota better than the much cheaper generic drug that they replaced ( complete grift ) Also Vioxx killed 500k approximately

[@nattyrf511]

Or the government.

[@higorlauer742]

Yeah, looking at cases like this makes me remember that there are some actual reasons for some people to be anti-vaxxers. It's really sad that events like that and a predatory pharma industry make people lose all their faith in something that saved and saves som many lives.

[@paulsansonetti7410]

@@higorlauer742 Harvard said explicitly in 2014 that 85-89% of all US pharmaceuticals fall between net harmful aka poison ,to not one scintilla better than the much cheaper generic drug that they compete with aka a complete grift But keep in mind they at least have liability around Pharmaceuticals They have absolutely no liability around jabs since the 1980s when they said they would stop manufacturing them if not absolved of all liability bc jab manufacture was seen as so inherently dangerous Also go read "The virus and the vaccine" where you find out almost 100 million Americans received polio jabs contaminated with the cancer causing SV40

[@davidbiagi2932]

This was a long time ago back before they had any real knowledge of certain illnesses and also lack of technology. Nowadays stuff like this wouldn’t happen. There are too many regulations in place and too many inspections done to make sure things are done as safe as possible. This is why people need to stop with these damn crazy conspiracy theories thinking just because crazy shit whether involving police, government officials, medical personnel etc etc etc, happened back in the early/mid 1900s that it means that it must for sure still happen now.

[@mere7583]

Always remember this didn’t have to happen. The scientists could have asked for volunteers and been up front with the risks.

[@Nitehawke]

But then they couldn't test to destruction as they did as they would have to provide treatment to any patient who requested it.

[@ERSwanger]

The scientists had to CHOOSE to continue this every single day. It was a choice, and it was the wrong one imo. You can study disease without intentionally killing people!

[@KandiBabyy]

This comment annoys me!

[@darksu6947]

​@@KandiBabyyYour face annoys me because it's so cute. I kind of want to punch it 👊😊

[@Lucky13Ravens]

We saw how that doesn't get them what they want even when they manufacture a fictional crisis recently. They still had to force people with threats.

[@aelius3805]

I mean, "bad air" was almost on the mark in a very basic way. They definitely weren't stupid.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Yeah the misconception that Medieval folks were stupid comes from Victorians trying to feel better about themselves.

[@paulsansonetti7410]

Nevermind that Pasteur came out for " terrain " theory on his deathbed Keep in mind almost everybody has MRSA on their body,but as long as they don't become weak/immunocompromised they will be just fine

[@summerthomas5630]

I'm a philosophy major and I volunteer to tell scientists to stop acting like Spider-Man villains every time they get funding

[@erinbelfield7685]

Hi, I had to stop watching this video. The scientists behaved in a barbaric & racist manner.

[@joearledge]

I've been in that community... I promise they won't listen unless the check you cut them is significantly bigger...

[@zacharykenniston748]

They are villains but there are no heroes we’re all just weak pathetic humans who can never ever have justice and will be tortured forever

[@HatOnAHat]

​@zacharykenniston748 - I must say, I admire you're optimism.

[@zendarx2]

Spider-Man writers. Fixed it.

[@comhaltacht315]

At 3:06 you can see Aiden has a tattoo. I ran it through google translate and it appears to be Gaelic for "It's not delivery, it's DiGiorno."

[@TheSlammurai]

Is that a JoJo character? XD

[@catdownthestreet]

That's absolutely hilarious.

[@N0S1LLAx]

It means I’m not afraid I thought

[@TonyTheCarrot]

Is that a frozen pizza brand?

[@alyssajust3370]

It does. ​@@N0S1LLAx

[@UnderratedBurnyBadger]

Soon as I saw the title, I was all, "How could it *possibly* be worse?" Now I'm sitting here fuming. I hate it when you're right, Aidan. This was levels of awful I can't even describe.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Patriotism isn’t just loving your country, it’s knowing when you were wrong

[@jumpingbean69]

@@TheLoreLodge I'd argue that's a part of loving something. I love my country but brother I HATE our government.

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

​@@jumpingbean69 Really, f&%$ the government.

[@margaretenoha5394]

Now do a deep dive on Unit 731 and HeLa Cells.

[@HenrySousa-n2c]

...And correcting it...Old Naples Florida...@@TheLoreLodge

[@FelixBrewerDahrknessInTheLight]

Lore Master Aiden over a year ago: The Government is hiding the Wendigo Lore Master Aiden now: The Government has knowingly infected people with syphilis

[@crancourt1789]

Both? Both? Both is good.

[@ERSwanger]

Aiden through the ages: here's a story, but first: Indian history lol

[@peggypasson8794]

Not only that but then told them they can't give them the cure that was made from studies of these poor souls !! Know your history my mom always said . An it's ugly it sure isn't pleasant what human beings are capable of doing to another human being ........ 😢

[@FRIEND_711]

I'm studying in a Japanese university and this came up in our morality subject calss and I remember I talked with my girlfriend at the time who was a student at Boston medical university and she was shocked about this and that she was never told about this in class, which honestly shocked me that was like back in 2017,18.

[@YewToobSucks]

Did the Japanese talk about their Unit 731? They also had many other secret projects with some sickening experiments they conducted on their Chinese prisoners. I can't remember the name of the book I read but it had pictures & it was sick, how anyone can do this to another living being is unfathomable.

[@childeminaj]

That’s accurate. We are not taught this or any of the bad things our government has done, our textbooks are very white-washed and idealized. I only learned about this atrocity because one of my teachers in high school was related to one of the research subjects. It’s honestly sickening especially since one of the greatest breakthroughs in medical history were involved in this horrific experiment, the HeLa cells, which the tuskegee syphilis mass produced and used for research.

[@FRIEND_711]

@@childeminaj that is something I blame the people more then the government on. The more I learn about the American school system, I do think people who shouldn't have a say in such matters tend to get a lot of speaking & choosing power.

[@genera1013]

​@@FRIEND_711Then it's on the government for not having a backbone about education. Instead of having actual education standards, they let the ignorant decide what we learn.

[@FRIEND_711]

@@genera1013 not really. I mean the government has some bourdon of blame. But with education specifically in the US, it's designed so that their parents will get to have a huge say in things, perhaps more then they probably should, to blame the government for all, hell even most of it, to me at least is barking at the wrong tree. How can the government takes steps to improve something the people that voted them in are actively working on? Such matter takes time, patience and cunning tactics.

[@SeventhFoldAvenged]

I would love for y'all to do a full video or series on all of the Native American/ Indigenous peoples and their history/culture. I love listening to Mattis talk about these subjects while I'm just chilling or playing video games. Keep up the great work guys!

[@andreajones65]

Great suggestion, I second this! I've taken some undergrad Indigenous classes (of MN mainly) and his research is very thorough, it's quite refreshing

[@thwillow299]

The best thing to do is to do your own research, for your specific area. Understand who those people were and where they were forced to move. It’s great especially if you’re already interested in our stories.

[@dawneichler]

That would be 500 tribes used to be 1000

[@joearledge]

I went to medical school and was in the scientific and medical fields for over 20 years.... I promise you, the things you know about from the past, are not as bad as some of the things that you don't know about, that are currently going on in those fields.... this isn't a joke or conspiracy, it's a first hand account. I wish to God everyday that it was a joke...

[@shaleamontanez4591]

This is incredibly eerie. Thanks for sharing

[@doughoback5226]

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help. " RR

[@NotExactlySans]

Unless you count contractions as two words. In which case, the eleven most terrifying words!

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Regan banned guns, ran up the debt on useless spending like literal space lasers, illegally sold weapons to Iran, and had the man who shot JFK as VP

[@klown463]

Ironic too, considering his government “helped” thousands with their alleged drug and gun “problems”

[@NormalDennis]

The actual nine most terrifying words in the English language are: "I let my wife's quack astrologist dictate US policies."

[@Waynebruce234]

It’s ironic that the same dude who said that, was slinging coke all around South America in the name of democracy 😂

[@EthanT05]

I live 30 minutes away from Tuskegee University. I was never taught about the experiments in school and I’m a senior in HS. It’s incredibly weird and disappointing that I have to learn about the history of my state from KZbin instead of my school.

[@TheLoreLodge]

If it makes you feel any better, this wasn’t talked about in Pennsylvania either when I was in school. I graduated high school less than a decade ago.

[@EthanT05]

That makes me feel slightly better. If it was taught in other states but not AL, that would make me hate Alabamas schools even more.

[@joearledge]

@@EthanT05buddy, if you want any legitimate no BS education, stay out of all schools once you leave HS. Curriculums and classes in all schools at all levels, without exception, are heavily censored, twisted, and spun to fit "the current thing". I've been to grad school, I promise it doesn't get better the higher you go. When you have kids one day, if you legitimately care about their education, you're gonna wanna home school them.

[@prettyhatemachine100]

School is only for indoctrination and brainwashing..they don't want us knowing how corrupt and dangerous the government is..

[@eevilauntie]

Not-so-fun fact: the bacteria that causes Lyme's disease is related to the one that causes syphilis, and Lyme's disease can also hide dormant in your body for a long time before deciding to turn your brain into goo. Which is why learning how to avoid/treat tickborne illnesses is hecking important.

[@paulsansonetti7410]

The Lab 257 thesis argues that the US government actually invented Lyme disease as a bioweapon, coincidentally the first outbreak of Lyme disease occurred in Old Lyme Connecticut approximately 2 miles away from the US bioweapons labs at Plum Island NY

[@a-yam943]

I have Lyme disease. It wasn’t treated early enough. Can confirm it’s awful and should be avoided at all costs

[@alexlealgil659]

I'm not American, so i don't actually know a lot about native Americans, I think it's amazing that I can get not only a video about something interesting in general (I absolutely LOVE the videos about 411s) but i can get a short free history lesson about a place I don't study here in Europe. Keep up the good work Aidens

[@coinwater8511]

I am American, and most of my info on Native American culture comes from these videos too. We kinda just start American History classes with colonization in high school. At least at my high school. It's pretty sad

[@MeltedBrains89]

Look, I've known for a long time that the US government has meddle with Central and South America in the most damaging ways possible. That is not something that was not ignored during my generation's history lessons (in a central american school) but it normally entailed the standard overthrowing of governments for economic reasons, and what I thought was an isolated incident with the birth control pills study in the Puerto Rican people, which had a lot of the same ethical issues that Tuskegee had, if not all. I will never ceased to be amazed at what people can do under official endorsement and how easy they can dehumanize another population

[@underwater_arbiter]

just wanted to let you know, there's a great book written by one of the Tuskegee airmen called "Redtail captured, Redtail free". its about his time as a German POW. I got to meet the author and get a copy signed when I was very young, sadly he passed away a few years ago.

[@paulsansonetti7410]

" Red tails " ia completely ahistoric propaganda kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZbFnXWfpdtnh5Ysi=nBdvx9qXkfqyMO-f

[@QuietPotato]

Public health student here! I'm so happy to see you made a video on this, these events deserve to well known in this country. You also described the history of many of these public health institutions and situations very well. Also, despite the classes I have taken so far, I had never heard of many of these horrors until your video today, including the entirety of the Guatemala syphilis experiment. So I give major props to you for how thorough and well worded you were with this video. Also, I love the idea of a philosophy student being involved in every experiment!!! If you're interested in making more content on these historic cases of unethical medical events, I recommend learning about Henrietta Lacks, aka the mother of HeLa cells. I don't know how to elevator pitch learning about her other than saying everything about Lacks' experience being diagnosed with cancer and leading to the end of her life is so important to learn. There are major lessons about informed consent (and the pain caused when it isn't required) and remembering that every patient is a real living breathing person. I cannot recommend learning about it enough!

[@wrongturnVfor]

I dont study public health and I knew about the Guatemala study in high school. Also the Puerto Rican study. At some point it is the nonchalant attitude of the people themselves. i dont expect people to know the details but these are things people should know happened. Also, medical ethics is a thing. The problem s, if the government wants to do something it will only hire people that go along with it. Philosophy students or not

[@childeminaj]

This! Henrietta Lacks is very important to modern medicine and I feel like she should be regarded as important as Alexander Fleming, who discovered penicillin. HeLa cells continue to actively contribute to our medicine and it sucks that their origins aren’t taught about because it’s something bad the government did which is considered ‘inappropriate and anti-american.’

[@wrongturnVfor]

​@@childeminaj It is not that it was something horrible they did. The problem is it didnt have to be horrible.

[@darksu6947]

Don't get caught Lackin'

[@shrimpflakes]

Excellent video. I just wanted to note: a big part of the demand for research into syphillis and STI’s in general was that American soldiers kept getting infected while at war. So in a way, these experiments were motivated by a need to improve our war machine… and that’s to say nothing about how soldiers would get infected in the first place. Just a great microcosm of the US’s foreign policy during this period.

[@captainexcabier]

The NIH seems to have continued this tradition of unethical studies that violate all manner of laws and codes.

[@TheGoodCrusader]

Government doing government things. And as always it's completely evil.

[@rjramrod]

The lesson here isn't "government = evil"-it's that our specific government here in the U.S. is built on a legacy of horrific shit inflicted on regular everyday people because they've never served us, they've literally only ever served the wealthy elite who make up the ruling class under our nightmare dystopia capitalist dictatorship

[@sweetpepino1907]

Evil is the government's thing

[@specialsause949]

As Nick Rekeita says (paraphrasing) "all government WILL exceed its authority 100% of the time." From the mayor of a town of 200 people to the president. Every single one, all of them, will exceed their power. That's why power has to have checks and balances.

[@CaseyBerard-qv6bi]

Absolutely 💯 truth

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

​@@specialsause949And why the Founding Fathers never hid the fact that they never wanted the government to be big enough to be a problem. Frankly, they'd disown us all as their kids out of absolute shame if they came back and took one look around the place.

[@BillyBlendsBluebs]

My dad's side were sharecroppers from N. FL, they worked tobacco. One of my great uncles came back from a war messed up (mentally) and after he was institutionalized he, along with a few others from our community, was taken to Tuskeegee. My family never heard from him again. And even with that proximity, i didnt know a lot of what yall talked about in the video. Thank you for this, and for the time yall spent researching, compiling, and editing. I appreciate you both🙏🏾✊🏾

[@metroidhunter965]

“Mengele and all of the concentration camp doctors were such savages! Tuskegee doctors: (nervous laughter)

[@Jay84ever]

You were right for that content warning! Thats just horrible that someone would do that too another human being!

[@katarinahinsey3931]

It definitely was much worse than I thought. Why didn't I learn about it in school? And what in the world would compel me to trust the government now?

[@meepmoopiethe3rd]

Ethics in medicine is so important. In any science, really. I can't even tell you, in my time in academia, how many people I've encountered who are like, "Yeah, I know it's wrong, but doing my experiment in a way that violated basic human rights would produce much better results!" And sure. If you don't take into account how other humans are going to feel when performing immoral experiments, you're probably going to make some crazy advancements. After all, that's why we use animals as test subjects how. However: It's very, very wrong. If people volunteer for a sketchy experiment, fine. But consent is so important with this sort of thing. 100% agree that philosophy peeps would make a great addition to scientific teams. Someone's gotta be there to remind people that while yes, unethical human experimentation can yield faster results, it is not the path one should go down.

[@gschgvt2956]

Don't worry. No one was held accountable so they will never do anything like that again. For an easy Lore Lodge episode list you can just roll through the wikipedia entry for: Unethical Medical Experimentation in the US.

[@joearledge]

lol yeah world wide would be a full time channel all on it's own...

[@davidbiagi2932]

Ethics weren’t really a thing back then. There wasn’t enough knowledge or technology around to learn more about certain things. Unfortunately, sometimes people have to be the guinea pig for the development of new medicines and technologies to help the majority later on. Honestly, if it weren’t for “ethics” nowadays being so prevalent, even though it’s a great things to have, we would probably have more cures for certain diseases.

[@jeezycreezy4220]

Even Dr. Cutler's portrait makes him look like a supervillan.

[@FloridasYesteryear]

Don't know if you would call this a happier note.... You know how when Indiana Jones was released more people became archeologists and when X-Files came out more women went into STEM careers. When CSI came out people went into forensics. In 1926, The Flying Ace was released by Norman Studios. It was an African-American cast movie about a WWI pilot. It inspired African-American Men to become airfighter pilots during WWII. They interviewed the Tuskeegee Airmen. Over half of them stated they became pilots because they watched The Flying Ace when they were boys. Maybe you can do another video about that?

[@megansimonson]

I love your regional history segments, I'm not usually interested in that sort of thing or it's overwhelming and goes over my head but you present it in a very interesting and digestible way each time.

[@clementine4606]

same its my favourite part, aidan always delivers

[@mandarr3853]

My grandfather served in Korea, but he passed away when i was in high school. I wish i would have talked to him more about his past, and not just during the war. He grew up in Chicago during the Depression, and I'm sure no one ever really asked him about what it was like 😔

[@childeminaj]

Really great video! Although I think it would have been nice to touch on how HeLa cells were mass produced by the Tuskegee Institute but honestly, HeLa cells and the life of Henrietta Lacks deserves it’s own video. She was also involved in unethical experimentation by the government, and her family did not know nor receive any reparations or compensation for their loved one’s suffering and MASSIVE contribution to modern medicine until years after she had passed.

[@childeminaj]

Here’s a link to an article regarding Henrietta Lacks, It’d be really cool to see you guys cover it! www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3516052/

[@rboehme82]

To the things you said at around 45:07. So many things where hidden in the past (and still are), hushed up, criminally covered, people had to die that certain things stay in the dark for years, decades, and centuries. Thank you for your indepth research, your entertaining and clear presentation, and uncovering, pointing out, and addressing those things. You fill the gaps people in power tried to hide. I know there are far more and far darker things we dont know about, and maybe never going to know about. Your work is helping bringing important things back into people minds.

[@tannerholechek5873]

This is something I had heard referenced many times, but not something I knew much about besides the basics. Great video brother, thank you for sharing this history!

[@jameshealey6121]

Crazy how "conspiracy" really just means future news headline

[@TheGreenKnight500]

Oh, absolutely. The concept of "conspiracy theories" is deliberately pushed to discredit anyone who might want to hold the government accountable. It's kind of like how American intelligence agents invented the term "brainwashing" to sow the idea in the public that normal people could be turned into foreign spies through some unspecified means. A few years back, I came to have the suspicion that many of the really "out there" conspiracy theories were deliberate smoke screens for the actual stuff the government is doing. Every time people start to suspect the government of foul play, the schizos come out of the woodwork with an entire narrative already cobbled together to distract everyone. We saw it with that one guy who claimed to see aliens in Area 51. It's a real secret government facility masked by wacky stories. That was probably a test run of this smokescreen technique.

[@anneliediederiks]

Exactly!

[@krisfinley6706]

Except for that tartaria nonsense

[@engreem9281]

Sometimes, but not always

[@jameshealey6121]

@@engreem9281 this is fair I should say rather most "mainstream" conspiracies end up being true Such as laptop, keystone, etc Edit- really anything a letter news company says is fake

[@jcook693]

my grandfather was a sharecropper in SC in the late 50s early 60s. One year when the land owner came around to do the books, he determined that after a year of working for him, my grandfather owed such and such amount. My grandfather said something to the effect of keep the job, keep the land, and shove what i owe you before packing up the family and moving to FL

[@sumwhere08]

Oh, look, another reason why I don't trust that the government has my best interest at heart. Absolutely disgusting

[@belleventing2327]

I'm a STEM student (zoologist) and throughout our degree we have a couple compulsory lectures on Bioethics and Society and Science. This experiment was used as an example in our lectures about why ethics and ethics boards consisting of both scientists and non scientists are so vital in our field

[@Richard-j3z]

The worst part about all if this is that theyre still doing shit just like this all over the world and people still consider these organizations trusted when it comes to medical treatments id be willing to bet that they did this to measure how long they could stretch out this lack of treatment for the profit of their own businesses

[@mistsofjade1512]

Ashamed how we as citizens allowed and allow the G to hurt the innocent people all over the world. We just can't seem to stand up for one another, but instead continue to be slaves. May God forgive us all

[@Nitehawke]

Aidan, if you've never read the book "The Lost City of the Monkey God", you should. With your love for history, you'd enjoy it. Douglas Preston is best known for his fiction (including books written with Lincoln Child, such as "The Relic") but he's also a writer for National Geographic among other things and this is a non-fiction account of one of the many searches for Cuidad Blanca in Honduras. One other thing, lol. One of your older vids popped up on my home page yesterday and since the sound was muted, auto captions were generated. "HI, I'm Aidan Mattis" became "HI, I'm Maiden Mattis" and now I can't get that out of my head. So I'm sharing. You're welcome! Lmao

[@i_luv_hecklefish]

Speaking of Chappaquiddick, have you covered it? If not I would LOVE to hear your take on the incident. It was tragic what happened to Ms. Kopechne. I listened to the interview with the diver who was the first to reach her and it brought me to tears when he described how he'd found her. The absolute terror that poor woman must of felt is nightmare fuel. 😢 These experiments were atrocious and disgusting. There's a special place in hell for most of the folks who knew this was going on, participated in harming others, and did absolutely nothing. 😢

[@Leo-ci3nl]

Of all Lore Lodge videos this was probably the hardest to sit through.

[@SuperUltraDevin]

Did not know about the Guatemalan incident. Absolutely disgusting!!! Never should have happened.

[@ventusvindictus]

I love the regional history segments. Even my relatively robust education in history was largely euro-centric (with a healthy dose of Asian and North African history) and broadly overlooked Native American history beyond their early interactions with Europeans.

[@moorzy8385]

7:27 ya know, there is a state park kinda deal here in Alabama called “DeSoto Caverns” it’s America’s first documented cave “discovered” by Hernando. It was a native burial ground before he got there. You can go take tours and I think even spend the night in the cave. I live about 15 minutes from it.

[@FatalKoi]

Thank you for the video! Definitely something that needs to be addressed and spoken about. We should never forget these situations and the victims...the victim's families that are still impacted today..

[@LADYMONA]

Don't ever change Aidan, love your energy.

[@Kasuto322]

I love my country. My government should be charged with atrocities against humanity

[@EbichanStudios]

Not sure if you are still reading comments. But nice video! Extremely sad, but great to be informed. You should make a video about the Quaker Oats tragedy where they fed kids radioactive oatmeal during their "Space club" meetings.

[@blackspirit86245]

Saw y’all on Unsubscribe. I had to come over and watch this. I live in Alabama. I’m not far from Tuskegee. I’ve been out of school for awhile. However in Jr. High, back 97-99 when I was in Jr. High, before going to private school for high school, we were taught a surface level of this “experiment”. My mother taught me more details on it, given she was a nurse I probably got a more graphic perspective on the medical side. However in HS, a private school, we skipped any discussion of it. I asked our principal and history teacher why they skipped it. They said it was shameful to speak of it. A private Christian school, the irony wasn’t lost on me. I wasn’t popular with my teachers in both history and science class, mainly because I knew more than they did. But statement to them, which I’ll never forget saying was, “If you don’t teach this, if these atrocities aren’t taught, they WILL be repeated”. They suspended me for the day.

[@maryellenblount6376]

Such a horrifying period of our history. Thank you for sharing this one.

[@liviwilde4798]

As someone studying public health at a graduate level, so many times have we looked at the Tuskeegee Study. Thank you for covering this story with such pathos and attention to detail--it's a story worth telling.

[@Smokasaurus]

I love how you always low key shout out Count Dankula when you call the war of 1812 Revolution 2 Electric Boogaloo

[@HungerGamesFan00]

"bodily fluids, or even blood" ah yes, the well known bodily solid, blood

[@BaiiBaii22]

I love when I see a KZbinr cover my old alumni. What’s crazy is they barely talk about it there. Locals the teachers we have to take an intro to Tuskegee class and it’s not even mentioned there.

[@analiesesimmerman9140]

Crimes Against Humanity are still taking place today

[@joearledge]

22:38... Healthcare field: "We never "forced" anyone to do anything, they all volunteered and did it of their own freewill." Some things never change...

[@wrangelinhabitant161]

You make a noble work, telling us the harsh Truth!!

[@braypostma4870]

congratulations! i must commend you sir, you have perfectly executed the art of the sponsor segue. please continue your good efforts sharing this virtue.

[@Novsev9069]

I just don’t know how somebody could do this to somebody else just so cruel they must’ve gotten off on it or something I don’t know

[@FrozeMoments]

“Oh yeah. That and More…so much more”

[@arieledwards1203]

I bet if you dove into Cutlers background, you may fund his lineage comes from Germany

[@apadgitt1799]

I REALLY NEED A COMPILATIONS OF THE FIRST 10 SECONDS OF EACH OF YOUR VIDEOS. YOUR INTROS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!

[@toter-drache]

I'm just thankful that our Government has become a lot more Trustworthy, Compassionate and would never even think of doing any, potentionally harmful or otherwise dangerous research of any kind, that would put the American or any other countries citizens at risk in any way shape or form. We all can rest easy now, knowing we're in good hands. 😉👍🏻

[@girlgamergear3260]

This stuff still happens! I found out a few years ago I had been a subject as a teen in an experimental staphylococcus/streptococcus vaccine. I got a shot to "help my acne" every month and my mom and I never signed consent. I wonder now if my autoimmune issues were affected by this. I have done a few medical studies since then and know the concent process now. Shoot, I was just in a study a few months ago (questionnaire about a medication, not taking one).

[@nicolec7962]

If you ever need help with diseases and pronunciation, please contact me. This was amazing….and the few things you questioned are easily answered. Loved this!

[@heathergarrett1792]

I have had one of those days that relentlessly kicks your a55, and what will save the day is a new Lore Lodge video. Thanks guys, and Merry Holudays ❤

[@yamiookami]

It's not a political issue. It's an unaccountable bureaucracy issue. Pretty much all the alphabet agencies have a long history of egregious rights violations.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

I'd say just an accountability issue in general. It's not like massive corporations behave any better without oversight.

[@immyg_563]

my mum is a researcher and they do have to go through an ethics committee now but half the time they dont do their job

[@gracie5169]

I love your content. So glad I found you ❤

[@dragonflytempb8395]

Grandpa's for ww2 are mostly gone. I think the mature Grandpa's still around that fought in wars AND have grandchildren old enough to watch that movie, likely fought in Korean and Vietnam wars. The grandchildren of Grandparents that fought in the wars that have occurred AFTER Vietnam are likely to young to watch the movie you suggested

[@EShirako]

Syphilis plus Antibiotic Resistance equals "Please Don't Let This Happen". This sort of thing is why I yell at people who are proud of browbeating their doctors into giving them an antibiotic for a clearly-viral, non-complicated illness. Also of concern to me are Tuberculosis and MRSA/VRSA/other superbugs like that. Stop giving chickens and cows and pigs nonstop antibiotics to avoid having non-disgusting situations for them to live in.

[@julieyang7]

Very thorough. Good Job 👍❤

[@lindseyherter6116]

I have many African American friends who don't understand why their parents criticize them for seeking help outside of a medical emergency. I tell them about these experiments. I wouldn't trust the medical field either!

[@lyatahiri6191]

It's more than that, they would use marginalized communities for these experiments but most of the studies that we based some medical practices today on were only done in white men, so the healthcare model and the way we think about and approach diseases is model after only a sector of the population which results in POC having worst healthcare outcomes when it comes specifically to care provided. Edited for grammar

[@papapalps2415]

​@@lyatahiri6191So you admit there are biological differences between races?

[@yvonnesanders4308]

No different to most medicine being tested and tailored to make biology

[@lyatahiri6191]

@@papapalps2415 yeah dude, there are even biological differences between people who are from the same race but are from different countries lol, it's called epigenetics, how our environment shapes out DNA expression, it's proven by studies that even the emotions of our ancestors shape how our DNA is expressed. It feels like you are going to a weird place of race superiority with this question, which is crazy, most of the time biological differences just mean certain races have a tendency to express certain proteins more which means medication reacts differently in their bodies than it does in others or diseases present differently.

[@papapalps2415]

@@lyatahiri6191 Huh, not a typical prog then. Contiune on then, by all means.

[@____________838]

That Jackson portrait always cracks me up: “U FOCKING WOT?”

[@LaineyBug2020]

They found syphilis in bones in Pompeii...The syphilis the Indigenous Americans had was more like a childhood version of chicken pox but was close enough to have an immunity.

[@ShinyAvalon]

The Tuskeegee "Experiment" was so hideous that I just can't watch this vid, but I popped in to give you an upvote and some engagement anyway. Thanks for all you do.

[@steadycoffee4682]

First comment after watching for a while, but you mentioned one of my favorite museums... Which is currently under public scrutiny due to the decisions of the current board labeling patrons of the museum as freaks. They're sanitizing people like the Tuskeegee men. Super off-topic from a one-off comment, but thought you should be made aware since you mentioned it.

[@BigNBrother]

47:35 Thank you for reminding me to make coffee. Its currently 2am where I'm at and watching this video.

[@haleysalter90]

I am in shock. I hope this video gets the recognition it deserves.

[@flyboiient2232]

I’ve been watching you for a lil minute and I like the way you do content.. I very much respect you going over this..

[@paulmacallister1989]

Tbh i used to watch ur vids and for some reason just havent caught any of your most recent content in a while and holy shit dude you look great! Love to see you looking healthier and happier!

[@joelspaulding5964]

No matter what bad things you can imagine your government doing, 100% that they are doing far worse. Said someone(probably), far smarter than I(definitely).

[@miasmicdreamer]

I want more of the 'Oh, no, they didn't! Oh, yes, they did!' series, US GVMT edition

[@gwyniveregrieder9788]

LMFAOOOO @ the cut to John in hell. I’m crying that was too good lol

[@Three_Sevens]

Cutler was like..."Take a picture of me while I imitate a super villan"

[@Danheron2]

Yeah, all the photos I could find this guy, young and old he looked evil as shit

[@hunterwilliams8923]

Oh I’m excited for this one!! Aidan is super cute too, it really compliments his greatly informed content lol

[@LeastFav]

You right

[@EMurph42]

Love the Vince clip, what an EXCELLENT example of one guy who DGAF about people! Spooky how perfect that was, curious is that from an interview about Chris Benoit? Or just any time he was confronted about the fact that his employees have a life expectancy decades shorter than then normal?

[@bigospig]

I will never be ashamed of my country. Shame is personal and I am not one of those who did this.

[@firstcanonkill1767]

“Content warning” I’m sure I can handle this. After those few sentences: what the *fuck.*

[@97Mcomputer]

Y'all probably won't read this, but do you have any recommendations for good sources or places to turn to to learn more about Native American history? We're taught everything about Mesopotamia and Western civilization, but nothing about the peoples that lived in the Americas for all those years and it's deeply fascinating to me.

[@CurtisThomas-l9p]

While the 1946 - 1947 Nuremberg "Doctors Trials" (in which several dozen Axis medical personnel were being tried for unethical medical experiments, practices and procedures) were ongoing US medical personnel were carrying out unethical medical experiments, practices and procedures: 1946 to 1948 the Guatemala Syphilis "Study", where hundreds of Guatemalans mostly minorities, poor, prisoners and military personnel were deliberately infected or allowed to be infected with syphilis and other STDs; 1932 to 1972 the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiments, where poor black men with syphilis were "studied" but denied treatment and were lied to about the disease they had; 1940 to 1950 over 100 children were fed radioactive Quaker Oats cereal. Besides those there were other unethical experiments done without the knowledge or consent of the victims, involving bacteria, viruses, pesticides, biological and radioactive agents etc carried out on US military personnel, prisoners, hospital and mental institution patients, University students, subway users etc. Overall the US has carried out covert experiments on millions of its citizens, more by far than any other nation.

[@nadnerb_sr20]

it's crazy that people still actually trust organizations like the CDC after they did shit like this. just imagine all the shit they've done or still doing that we don't know about

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

I love my country, I love my people, but my government. . . . Let's just say I'm not a complete anarchist, but I'm increasingly sympathetic to anarchist ideology.