Toyota Tacoma vs. 4Runner Trailhunter COMPARED: Which One Would (or Should) You Choose?

[@TFLcar]

To find more info and discussions on the 2025 4Runner, check out our friends at 4Runner6G Forum ( 4runner6g.com ). Their forum deep dives into everything about the new 4Runner!

[@is6566]

After all the break downs of the new Tacoma recorded on KZbin, including yours for the front disconnect, Truck King’s for the manual transmission, and just a few days ago Icon Vehicle’s shock mount, TRD Jon’s and others for grill shutter motor, I wouldn’t buy anything new generation Toyota IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS of production. And my wife drives a Lexus and my son a Corolla so we are not exactly an anti-Toyota family.

[@michaelp.3485]

And yet they will continue to buy their way to the top of reliability charts.

[@DaleWilly]

Umm first of all they DON"T break down, they DON"T have issues, stop spreading FALSE info, troll

[@bobdylan6773]

Except they do NOT break down

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly everyone who you disagree with is a “troll”, despite their legitimate claims. Cry harder fanboy.

[@DB-os7wl]

@@bobdylan6773 🤖

[@jeffhines73]

Guarantee you one thing, they’ll both be overpriced as hell

[@avdp9095]

Just in, the prices of new Landcruiser for the Netherlands 😢😢😢😢😢😢Euro 180.000 start price.......100.000 euro tax, due to diesel engine.

[@fredmagic09]

Just like every other car on the market

[@R32vdubb]

How does $87k for a TRD PRO sound 😂??? Local dealership is asking $20k “market adjustment”

[@DaleWilly]

umm guess what, it is BEST in class, so it is worth EVERY penny troll

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly everyone who you disagree with is a “troll”, despite their legitimate claims. Cry harder fanboy.

[@adamg85]

Goodbye ol 4runner. You were the best.

[@icare7151]

No traditional bump stops is a huge engineering mistake.

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly everyone who you disagree with is a “troll”, despite their legitimate claims. Cry harder fanboy.

[@icare7151]

@@DaleWilly Prove it. I have seen first hand stupid Toyota removed the traditional bump stops on the 2025 4Runner and Tacoma with catastrophic results. When you finish high school, I suggest you go to Hillsdale College and learn how to think independently and do significant research.

[@ChristianPareATLAS]

I used to like Toyota. Now I am lost all car companies sale crap 💩

[@sixspeedcooper]

Doesn’t have frame mounted bump stops and, unfortunately, the design they went with is completely viable, however the two-piece, cast top hat is not a good material or design choice and is prone to failing. The LC250 design is much better.

[@icare7151]

@@DaleWilly Fan boy, I have decades of forensic failure analysis mechanical engineering experience, have been testing vehicles for decades up and down Pike Peak and Race to the Clouds up Pikes Peak. I have owned 5 generations of 4 x 4 4Runners and off road nearly every weekend here in the Colorado Rocky Mountains. Toyota not using traditional bump stops have apparently already caused many failures. Their engineering and quality defects have turned Toyota and Lexus into total 💩. I own a 2015 Lexus RX450h and 2021 4Runner 4 x4. Would not own the next gen 4Runner, not purchase a new Lexus 550 or new Lexus RX, total 💩. Just saying.

[@The_Mister]

I wish Toyota would make a basic 4Runner without all the tech, manual seats, mechanical transfer case, analog gauges, with a locker. People want to customize their vehicles with their own favored gear. They don’t want to pay for the off road goodies from the factory only to remove them.

[@onealjones9039]

Need the LC 70 sold here!!

[@drayray4009]

I still like the old gen’s better

[@gregjoubert5118]

Be nice if they’d reveal the TRD OR and SR5 models. Not just the overpriced top models.

[@zakariaabedalhussein8928]

They both have an outrageous price

[@GeoBob-xf3hh]

Not all all

[@DB-os7wl]

@@GeoBob-xf3hh 🤖

[@TheBulap]

Turbo 4 hybrids is also going to be a hard pass from me. Next time I'm buying a truck, it's going to be a used V6 model.

[@polarbear4686]

65k is a joke

[@mauriciohenao6590]

Can't wait for the 1st drive with the 4runner 😊

[@joshlamar1990]

It’s basically going to be the same as the Tacoma 😂

[@mauriciohenao6590]

@@joshlamar1990 yes sir..

[@architypeone8646]

I like the looks of the new 4Runner, but not crazy about the engine and drivetrain. I have a 2000 4Runner that we bought new and it has been a great vehicle, (265K miles), still looks and runs great. I put a 2" lift with 17" wheels and 33" all terrain tires on it....I get compliments on it all the time. It's not fast and the gas mileage isn't great, but it gets me there and back without ever letting me down. I just wonder if the new 4Runner will still be running strong in 2048.

[@TheBulap]

Same - I drive an Xterra, which I love. It's definitely not fast or efficient, but I know that it can keep going forever.

[@davidjernigan8161]

All the factory air compressor and inverter are just expensive options that can be done aftermarket cheaper.

[@Cloud30000]

Aftermarket inverters are very power limited due to the alternator; factory inverters are able to program the electrical feed of the inverter independent of the battery, so they can provide more wattage than an aftermarket inverter. I bought an 800 watt inverter years ago, but it never worked right at full power unless I was manually revving the engine over 2k rpm. Now, I have the Powerboost, and it provides the full 7.2kW at about 1000 rpm by being designed and integrated together with the rest of the truck.

[@gqami]

A midsize truck, with no rear passenger leg room, isn't that bad, huh? Great video guys.

[@Maryland_Kulak]

I like the M240 machine gun mount in the back of the Tacoma. It will come in handy the way things are going.

[@willb3018]

The only thing that really annoys me about these hybrids in the 4 Runner (and Land Cruiser) is the cargo space lost to the battery. Otherwise very nice and capable.

[@hennesseytseng7459]

Why can the battery go under the rear seat in a Tacoma but has to occupy cargo or third row space in a 4Runner

[@chibbyylol]

@@hennesseytseng7459 Probably because of the functions for each vehicle. Folks generally buy a SUV for more passenger capacity over cargo capacity so placing it under the 2nd row will just make it cramped for the passengers there but greater cargo capacity, versus comfortable 2nd row with compromise towards cargo capacity whereas the big thing about trucks is the bed and less about rear seating capacity, especially in a midsize

[@OceansideCreations]

What is a trip.. At 1:47 you show the passenger side front shock mounted the same way as the landcruiser. Then at 3:29 you show the tacoma which is mounted completely different with its own little cage. Very interesting. I would really like to see these apart to make an better assessment.

[@elizabethhopkins3826]

I would choose the 4Runner because it looks big enough for me to transport family members in with them sitting higher up than in a sedan.

[@joeblack1052]

Strange how they kept the top mount wiper on 4Runner and put that crappy glass mount on the landcruiser

[@DMLjeff]

Roll down rear window requirement on 4r

[@alaskabornheathen8902]

Also depends on what you want an SUV for. If you’re just hauling around the family and don’t plan on towing much; get a RAV4 or Venza. I cannot believe the dismal leg room in the 4Runner. It’s a full size body on frame SUV. It should have more leg room than that. Seats just need to be smaller, that rear bench is way too deep. They could have made it a few inches shallower and it would have made a big difference with leg room.

[@Offshore1977]

In place of the passenger grab handle they should have put a manual transfer case lever.

[@bh844]

Insane to me how small the rear interior space is now in both vechiles! I used to have a 2016 Tacoma. Crazy to see the reduction in space.🤦‍♂️

[@fauzansheikh4382]

They need to have a non-i-force max hybrid with the 3rd row seat which when folded, has a lower floor than the battery.

[@Alienwhiskey]

Might as well put a Lexus badge on it. Most can't afford them.

[@BaconCruiser]

Look past the UCAs and you’ll see Toyota cheaped-out on the bump stops, they are now on the shock shafts only. This coupled with them eliminating the steel one-piece shock mounts is leading people to blow out their shocks on small bumps. Ridiculous for trucks purportedly made for off-roading.

[@ChristianPareATLAS]

The bump stoppers missing is a big NO not for me

[@jasonm7888]

Was that Land Cruiser Kurt in the blue shirt at the end?

[@robs9010]

Personally think chase is the only one that has any actual automotive journalist qualities the rest are winging it

[@DylanMitchell]

4Runner Trail Runner. Question wil 4Runner Pro or Trailhunter have better on road ride for daily use and long sections of pavement between off road trails?

[@JohnC-hj3dr]

I'm sure that i can say that the pricing will be: your starting @57000for the 4 runner trail edition, decently equipped at 68900, fully loaded@78000! And that's before dealer markups! Not i didn't think that this 4 runner would be worth that account of money

[@MidSouthUTV]

Will the new 4Runner not have a brake controller like the Land Cruiser and Tacoma? And if not, why? The Land Cruiser and 4Runner tows the same amount.

[@artashketendjian]

I'm looking for a fun reliable overland vehicle stuck on Tacoma trail hunter or a wrangler Rubicon x?

[@toyotaofclermont]

4Runner Trailhunter is the best!!!

[@fotomotoxxiii]

Drive them Offroad we have seen 100 walk around videos already.

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

no bump stops. Are you shitting me, Toyota?

[@is6566]

Except it’s totally NOT fake news. It causes the shocks to break through their caps at 20 mph speed on small potholes on off-road trims of Tacoma.

[@Georgewashington-o7m]

@@is6566 WRONG

[@DB-os7wl]

@@Georgewashington-o7m🤖

[@is6566]

@user… Some of you guys are truly hilarious. What I described (and the original poster referenced) is a fact recorded in real time on video by Icon Vehicles Dynamics. They explain it later using a shock dyno.

[@mav4516]

Why is this video up a second time, at least I think I’ve already seen it

[@Vultite]

So if they aren't reliable, is it worth the price?

[@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461]

I'd go GX550 Overtrail:)

[@Beattheroutine]

If only these would be easy to find

[@michaeljoos9753]

4Runner, SR5…hoping to keep it under $60,000 after markups.

[@EI_Tony]

Bring that 10,000$ small Toyota truck to the u.s👊🏼💥

[@matrixist]

Is it so hard to make a modern bullet proof v6????

[@davedave1398]

Wasn’t this video posted days ago?

[@sail72]

Maybe they released it too early for Toyota's liking and had to take it down...

[@richardgeere3858]

Looks like a capable replacement for the legend.

[@AdamPatterson-v6t]

That's a raised air intake and not a proper snorkel, I think--the air-box is not water tight, it won't increase wading depth, and electronics are still down low (I think).

[@oni-one574]

I think I really hate the fact that the 4Runner and Tacoma look the same, especially for the outrageous price. They released so many models, on the same platform, I'd rather some individuality. That said, I know the Japanese aren't really big on individuality on a corporate level.

[@derekschinke2512]

Land Cruiser. Nothing compares

[@cartopia6161]

Wish the Trailhunter was available with only the turbo 4. The hybrid makes this unwanted for me.

[@thisguy2659]

I could tell but did this have good stuff?

[@GeoBob-xf3hh]

Both are awesome

[@DB-os7wl]

🤖

[@avdp9095]

Buy the 4runner, Japanese build.......best.

[@blang38]

Hate to break it to you, but the 4Runner will likely be built in Mexico since the Tacoma is built there.

[@avdp9095]

@@blang38 tacoma, Mexico and 4runner, Japan. Informed by Toyota.

[@blang38]

@@avdp9095 Ah...good to know. Weird, but good to know

[@HAHA.GoodMeme]

I'd pick the one with bump stops. oops that's neither.

[@1FiftyOverland]

So no offroading in this video?!?!

[@O-Heyguys]

Neither 😆

[@nlken7175]

Trailhunter is a much better package than the TRD pro now. So strange how Toyota USA Trailhunter is 1K cheaper than the TRD pro but Canada trailhunter MSRP is 6 K more. WTF Toyota

[@danieldonegan6914]

The ARB rack is completely useless. For as much as you pay for that truck it should be optional.

[@CaptainSkidmark74]

Dealership already sending out price drop emails.... with all the issues the new generation vehicles are having i am wondering why....lol

[@BigAl22]

Wonder what the profit margins are on these. We really need affordable vehicles.

[@MJ-fj9yv]

Trailhunter whistles louder 😂

[@stevekniess3665]

Wow really bumped up the power

[@DB-os7wl]

The Toyota fanboy 🤖 family is coming out strong trying to defend their vehicles 😂

[@2151abell]

ya got me... I thought ( and I dont know why ) we were going to see some driving...Im out of here... I'll be back when the action happens...other then that... this is little more then a Toyota Ad.

[@DaleWilly]

Best in class, selling like hotcakes; worth every penny

[@DB-os7wl]

Actually it isn’t best in class in many categories. Do your research blind fanboy. Correction: 🤖

[@jc6618]

Nice try fan boy… You’ve done nothing but call anyone who has legitimate concerns with these new Toyota models “trolls” and “WRONG” and all the while provided absolutely no rebuttal worth a damn. Your fanboy copium is showing and it’s embarrassing

[@DB-os7wl]

@@jc6618 it’s a 🤖 account. Look at the comment history and same continuous canned statements.

[@Civic06]

Tacoma Trailhunter or 4Runner TRD Pro

[@francisverniere9250]

Tacoma

[@sapperROSS]

Useless trucks unless you like posting on social media

[@DaleWilly]

You are useless

[@YWUBHYD]

Fo-Runnah Fo Sho

[@polarbear4686]

Nah its too big, 5th gen 4r had great proportions

[@justinstiff5641]

Very capable very rugged and very broken 😊

[@sivx17]

Not worth, just overpriced.

[@Thankyou_3]

Why are you guys doing the comparison of the vehicles from Toyota week after week…the buyers had decided that small Turbo engines and Hybrids are money grab for the manufacturers. Please give us the tried and tested models with proper overbuilt naturally aspirated engines…V6 and V8s and 2.7 inline 4 cylinder were better than these hybrids and Turbo engines. The old durable technology provided easier maintenance, easier on the pocket, very efficient and economical to purchase.

[@scott48]

reading where the 4runner release has been delayed again into 2025 now. wtf....

[@sammyjammy6647]

I think that’s the best idea. Reason being they are making sure they are retooling their manufacturing processes to eliminate all the issues with the current Tacoma and tundra. And I’ll bet you they’ll include the bump stops as well. so I’m good with them completely taking their time

[@sammyjammy6647]

On top of everything I just said, since it will be assembled in Japan, I’m double sure they’re going to make sure they don’t repeat the mistakes they’ve made with the tundra and Tacoma

[@MrSatchelpack]

@@sammyjammy6647 I hear they are listening to everyone and putting in a V6 instead. /s

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

Hybrid cars are my enemy...many technicians and owners were electrocuted and killed by hybrid batteries due to high voltage.

[@HiggsField1337]

Neither. Both are way too expensive for they offer.

[@Brotherhood676]

One thing I can count on is that the top comment is going to be a complaint about the prices

[@NeptuneKnives]

Made Mexico, 4 bangers, such fools these days with no financial intelligence

[@Motorcycledad160]

Beautiful vehicles. Too bad Toyota reliability is in the tank and they are massively overpriced. I'll move on to Nissan instead.

[@amalfi460]

I never thought I’d see the day that Toyota would sell overpriced unreliable vehicles

[@cowboyfoodie9551]

I hate that they look exactly the same

[@willschafer5274]

😢😢😢😢 I can’t afford it so it actually sucks and is too expensive 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@jerex112]

too much talking at the beginning get to the action

[@user-sy3xg2gq3u]

NEITHER!!! New Toyotas are SLOP!!!

[@cinthe3]

F150 raptor prices

[@Japplesnap]

Hybrid? No thanks.

[@billzkustomz]

Overpriced next.

[@naveenthemachine]

In general neither of them LOL. Both are dead on arrival vs rivals The competition no longer acknowledges the Tacomas existence What happened to all of you saying I’m wrong for saying the Tacoma will be disappointing huh? 😂 you got proven wrong by me once again yet you still can’t accept it We’ll keep trying to prove me wrong because you’re fighting against air and air is destroying your argument

[@DaleWilly]

okay troll you are clueless and wrong as normal; these trucks are best in class troll

[@naveenthemachine]

@@DaleWilly yeah they’re not. Best in class means doing everything exceptionally well. Everything from styling to interior design to materials quality to fit finish to interior space to technology to power / driving experience to towing and payload etc. That’s not the case here. Neither of them excel in any of these areas

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly everyone who you disagree with is a “troll”, despite their legitimate claims. Cry harder fanboy.

[@DB-os7wl]

@@naveenthemachine it’s a 🤖 account

[@TheL046Kid]

Engine sux. Pass.

[@sweetpadre]

😏

[@josel1325]

They ruined the 4Runner 🤢

[@smittysmitty481]

Very expensive vehicles for what you get

[@nikonmark37814]

Toyota keeps making stuff only the wealthy can afford. Why doesn't TFL highlight affordable sub 40K trucks?

[@WhatTheIfYouSeeKay]

And to think, You can buy a Ford Raptor Ranger for 10k less and get WAY more power and a transmission that doesn’t blow up or a de-tuned motor so it doesn’t explode the ADD! Or a stupid shock absorber seat that makes the back seat useless! 😂

[@bk27117]

Neither. They are overpriced ugly junk. You can already the transmissions and engines blowing in the video

[@DaleWilly]

umm no they don't troll, and they are NOT overpriced junk... you are

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly everyone who you disagree with is a “troll”, despite their legitimate claims. Cry harder fanboy.

[@DB-os7wl]

Overpriced piles of crap!

[@DaleWilly]

Yeha maybe you are, but not these trucks troll

[@DB-os7wl]

@@DaleWilly they aren’t overpriced? Ok 😂👍🏻

[@lucassitanggang5154]

6:00 Like any midsize truck Is gonna have pretty limited leg room Bro, This Is pickup not truck. Truck Is Like Peterbilt, Kenworth, Mercedes-Benz Truck, Scania, And Mack