Warhammer Fantasy Races in Warhammer 40K | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@DINOROAR2912]

Remember that time when Kaldor Draigo showed up in the End Times, yeah that was one of the things of all time

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

WAIT HE DID????

[@Hello-bp8dx]

I’m pretty sure that was actually a Stormcast that arrived due to warp time fucky-wuckery, and was meant as more of a teaser/easter egg. Could be wrong though

[@parkermaisterra8532]

Or remember that time the Skaven discovered a telephone in a Lizardmen temple that called the Eldar from WH40k who actually picked up and scared the Skaven so much they destroyed the device?

[@MetalKing1417]

@@Hello-bp8dx There is actually a quote by Kaldor Draigo that confirms he went to fantasy- "I see an old world beyond the next horizon, a world that likely never was, where sorcery blew in the very winds and a self made god king was all that stood against the ruinous powers. Mayhap I would find the answer there, if I could find it at all."

[@dboot8886]

​@@MetalKing1417"AND MILES OF AVOCADO TOAST! AS FAR AS THE EAR COULD SEE!"

[@akumaking1]

There’s a joke/meme that the Imperium is the closest parallel to the Skaven.

[@InquisitorThomas]

And honestly… it’s not wrong.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Yeah I’ve seen that XD

[@diamondhamster4320]

KokaNotWorka was right...

[@jonathanathor117]

There is some merit to that statement.

[@soffren]

This is false. The skaven have mastered scientific innovation

[@ernesielta]

Oh mighty, Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds... and many, many more...

[@awendigowithinternetaccess4400]

Oh my goodness...

[@draco84oz]

You sure you're not calling on Idi Amin there? Actually, no - you could reach the end of Amin's titles fairly quickly.

[@AmerikanSkull]

What I always enjoyed about Warhammer Fantasy was it's interpretation of Chaos. Many followers of Khorne, especially champions, were shown to have a certain level of honor, and actually respected some of the champions of Bretonnia and the Empire.

[@sovietunion7643]

what i like about chaos in fantasy, is that it actually feels, well chaotic. chaos in 40k seems much more of a somewhat unifed or maybe federalized force. sure chaos marines will fight sometimes but it honestly its meh. in fantasy its always stated the chaos gods are openly at war with eachother in their respective domains at all times and followers from other gods will fight. even things like beastmen show how chaos actually feels more than just 'muh dark gods' like in 40k because it shows the warp as more than just chaos, but something that is inflicting all of the world. even the skaven could be classified as warp beings as they are so warp mutated that even if they aren't from chaos they are from the warp. its really just more interesting to me than just the 'dark god' approach 40k does. also nurgle doesn't make any sense in 40k. why did the warp spawn a chaos god of disease when most races don't deal with disease? only humans really deal with diseases and even then most of them are somewhat curable. nurgle makes more sense in fantasy where pre industrial society has just so much disease going around that a chaos god makes more sense.

[@ivannolan]

@@sovietunion7643 look at hive cities though nurgle absolutly runs ham on them trillion of poor people crammed together all sick and dying and desperate for a way out and turns out that way it is a double edged sword and also there several horor books based on nurgle in 40k

[@Archon3960]

Yeah... and then GW tried making Fantasy more like 40k... Like, 'Bland and haha make everything Grimdark and stale.' like 40k. B/

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

Both settings also have a big guy in armor with a deamon sword and skulls spit on spikes over him.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Absolutely based

[@Darkstriker133713]

And one is infinity more cooler than the other. Also side tangent. Fantasy's chaos faction is easily superior since chaos armies always are more disorganized than in 40k. Somehow the imperium seems more chaotic than abbadons forces

[@EDuarteVillanueva]

The closest equivalent to Fantasy/AoS ogres in 40k are the Kroot. Both are very mercenarial and eating (especially eating their enemies) is a huge part of their society. And similarly to how some ogres go mad from hunger and become gorgers, the extreme metabolism of the kroot can cause similar divergences if they're not careful.

[@lurkingedge]

"Chaos. Chaos never changes."

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Unless GW retcons something

[@Sara3346]

IDK i think Chaos Dwarves line up very nicely with the Dark Mechanicus, especially with their hellforges and bound deamons and deeply cursed tech of all sorts, both are heretical offshoots they sell to everyone who comes to them too. The weird thing is that the Dark Mech don't worship vashtor the way the chorfs do with Hashut, even though Hashut and Vashtor are very similar.

[@Johnwarhammer_]

God if GW brings the chaos dwarfs to 40k I hope they bring back Hashut as a equal or rival to Vashtor and not forgetting him

[@samk7777]

I believe this video may be my fated first step into the fantasy side of warhammer

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Now’s the time with The Old World out 👀

[@yamibakura8597]

Do it. It's a really interesting setting with lots of interesting characters and cool concepts. I honestly prefer it to 40k.

[@AlshainFR]

Please don't hesitate to make Warhammer Fantasy content. You're one of the few lore channels who actualy theorizes and discusses topics instead of reading codexes verbatim or memeing to the point it becomes a drag, and I'd love to see my beloved WHF get that quality treatment. And no, WHF isn't dead or replaced entirely by the Old World : many people still play WHFB, WHFRP is still being published and actively being worked on, the Vermintide and TWWH communities are huge...

[@sovietunion7643]

i never really did understand why GW decided to make the two very good games of total war warhammer and vermintide II AFTER killing old fantasy with the end times. like if you wanted to revive the setting than make the games and update the lore, but if you want a new setting why not make games set in AOS... then again i shouldn't be expecting logic from GW with their recent actions. i just think had they waited a few years warhammer fantasy could have gotten out of its doldrums and they could have done more with it

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

@@sovietunion7643 Much of it has to do with the fact that GW hands out their license to make Warhammer games pretty loosely. The devs who take up this license like to either go for Warhammer 40k or Warhammer Fantasy, because those have been around much longer in the cultural zeitgeist than AoS.

[@sovietunion7643]

@@Dingghis_Khaan if only they were this lose with the license with fan animations TTS would still exist

[@2013Arcturus]

I want my Skaven/Hrud faction. Warp tainted, plasma weilding, rat Jawa, space junkers? Yes. They combine all the best parts of Tyranids, Orcs and Chaos. They could be all over the Imperium and you'd hardly notice.

[@biffington]

Yes. I don't so much want 40k skaven to fill a niche I think 40k lacks, given you can make an argument for a few different faction satisfying their role I want skaven in 40k because I feel like however they get introduced will the most ridiculous, batshit insane, unhinged madness that the canon has seen in a while and i DESPERATELY want to see Dan Abnett just TRY and write it.

[@yamibakura8597]

I like the Hrud as they are- horrifying eldritch abominations that fuck with time and are just THE BIGGEST pain in the ass to fight. Skaven fill another niche and are frankly a lot more flexible. They can jump between silly, serious and scary, all in the same book.

[@fumarc4501]

Look up “Stryxis” and “Smelt Rats”. I’m torn between which would make for better Space Skaven in 40K.

[@oliveragag8576]

"Yes, fulfill your Warhammer Fantasy." -Sigmar Warhammer

[@honestwarmonger4662]

To quote Chaos in 40k “ we were lied to and we shall have our revenge Chaos in fantasy “ FUCK IT WE BALL”

[@filipbajer]

I remember when my dad showed me a WarhammerRPG 2 ed rulebook and without any previous large expousure to warhammer i thought that the chaos wariors were fantasy space marines lol

[@three.6]

Tomb kings can be summed up with. Basically Nagash happened. Necrons, Basically the C'tan. The tomb priests pretty much just stopped dying because they were contantly steeped in undeath magic at the beheast of Settra and the rest of Nehekaran royalty to rule for all eternity like gods they were 'obviously' meant to. Although they hadn't yet figured how to resurrect' the long dead beyond mindless decaying puppets. ..So they had a ways to go. Until Nagash was like 'Here you go, eternal vampire juice, lol' and started raising the sacred dead en-masse because, why the fuck not and all sorts of insane world ending ritual nonsense. The newfound unlife which the kings awoken to by Nagash's doing much in contrast with the Necrontyre found themselves in a state of unlife a mockery of the immortality they sought. Lording over their once mortal civilization, the majority of which now no more than automatons.

[@Crowd7]

Archaon is The Emperor. He fights with unstoppable legions to unify the earth under his banner, uses the power of chaos undivided through deals he definitely wants to get out of, and has the power to actually do it. Considering the chaos knights being space marines and all that

[@qigonglungz]

"Liber Chaotica" (most awesome Warhammer Book, Aesthetically too) is a must... I'm so surprised that book was not mentioned as it's the only thing I know of canon that covers and delves into Chaos' connection between 40k and Fantasy.

[@mogwaiman6048]

They aren't canon anymore in regard to the universes being connected.

[@parkermaisterra8532]

@@mogwaiman6048The June 2018 edition of White Dwarf outright confirms that they are separate universes that are connected via the Warp. Plus in Kaleid Draigo: Knight of Titan he mentions seeing “a world that never was where sorcery blew in the very winds and a self made god-king was all that stood against the ruinous powers”

[@franciscorui]

Skaven equivalent would be the Genestealer Cults somewhat. Mainly the scavenging and living underground, and them both being infestation

[@r.cdahuman7682]

I love the idea that the empires colleges of magic understand magic better than the mechanicus understands technology. Mind you, the Bright College, the fire mages, have started so many fucking fires and burnt down the area of Altdorf around their college so many times that people just stopped moving there.

[@zweistein3959]

I always thought that humans are the skaven of 40k. Numerous, dirty, brutal, without a moral code and ruled by a council that is prone to infighting

[@marsguy4079]

"There are not loyalties space marine equivalent" Stormcast Eternals: "I'm literally a demigod"

[@chetmanley1885]

There's thankfully no Stormcast in Warhammer Fantasy

[@lachlanevans5013]

Yeah Stormcast eternals are age of Sigmar which is both a sequel and reboot setting to Warhammer fantasy

[@Nyghtking]

@@chetmanley1885 Dante gets pretty close in terms of appearance.

[@AlshainFR]

Also if you're looking for the equivalent of Space Marines, look no further than the Bretonnian Grail Knights. The benediction of the Lady makes them thougher and stronger than any mundane man, which is reflected in their game stats. They also stop aging, gain a mystical voice of command, golden auras, bright golden eyes, the works

[@Dr.LightMarker5613]

And a posse of worshippers and redshirts who follow at a respectful distance while praying to your skin cells and bent silverware lol

[@lachlanevans5013]

Fun fact: believe it or not Vampires do actually exist in 40K though they are only really relegated to 2 different kinds. The first kind is a warp entity that exists in Cthonia. The other kind is a lot more interesting as they are a mutant(potentially chaos aligned) that exist in Necromunda and we see these ones a bit more as there is one in the Kal Jericho series. These things have most of the same powers as a regular vampire though as you can imagine they aren’t really doing anything special in the wider narrative of 40K.

[@sleezesteve]

There are ogres, dwarves, halfling and even some elves that live in the empire and "gone native" to various degrees. The 40k ratlings, ogrens, and the original squat concepts are a direct taking of these but in space. The knightly orders also are the concept the space marines derive from but they have diverged wildly from the origin point. Wheras ratlings have recieved almost no attention and have also seen almost zero divergance.

[@Turnil321]

There are several things I disagree with. So I wrote them down, but otherwise great video. 1, the empire of man has guilds that function the in many ways like the tech priest in 40k, the wizards are more like the astropaths noble house of 40k. 2, The wood elves were not created because of the elf civil war. They fled into the woods to escape the dwarfs during the war of the beard. 3. Beastmen are common in the empire's dark forests (like drakwald) and swamps. 4. nord men are not slaves to darkness and will sometimes fight with the empire against chaos invasions. 5. chaos dwarfs = dark mechanicum. both use a lot of demon engines. 6. the if the unified they would be able to defeat all other factions is used for both greenskins and the skaven.

[@justinwetmore9409]

You inspired me to start making 40K videos

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

YOOOO THATS SO COOL

[@yaboimagnus5845]

Looking forward to seeing your content brother. Based pfp as well

[@soffren]

Subbed.

[@woodchuck94og]

0:13 im pretty sure in some of the early edition of fantasy u could summon space marines on ur field to fight for u

[@Ubertrollz69420]

I personally like to believe Space Marines are most like Grail Knights of Bretonnia, I mean think about it, both are super soldiers blessed/made by their respective gods/goddesses, look down upon the common man except in select cases, and both are deeply fanatical and use other humans as cannon fodder

[@myself2noone]

They really need to do something with the Votan.

[@soffren]

For real! How hard is it to write and publish ONE full length novel. Even a short Audible Drama would be SOMETHING

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

Patience, you will get your single paragraph of lore after the 5th Space Marine book is done.

[@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd]

there's also the ratlings being the equivalent of the halflings.

[@krakenattacken8230]

ratlings = halflings ogryns = ogres beastmen = beastmen they really werent all that creative with the abhumans lol

[@crockles8754]

I'd say that the T'aus directest cousin I Fantasy is the lizardmen, think about it, a race of blue men with distinct castes/sub-species, like the sauros'/fire caste, and they are both led by semi-psychic Sorta evil guys who lead the factions, and the whole hate the Skaven bit of the lizardmen, us very similar to the hate the orks aspect of farsights lads. Just a thought

[@Le-cp9tr]

You’ve made a few mistakes here: - Orks/ Orcs are a more direct analog than you’d think. Orcs and Greenskins are all over the world. The badlands are just where the most stuff to kill is. - Skaven are more comparable to Tyranids/Genestealer Cults have the deeper analog from the vermintide and the underempire -The Liche Priests didn’t raise the dead to defeat Nagash. That only happened after the fact - The chaos dwarf analog is chaos squats - The lizardmen analog are the slaani

[@alexshingleton]

I hope the dark mechanicum has big hats like chaos dwarfs

[@Dogue83]

What would be a good in universe way to explain why the Leagues of Vottan were absent from the galaxy? *Ghost - Rats starts faintly playing*

[@greggoodson9082]

Harlequins are lifted straight out of the wood elves too......God we need more Exodite lore...

[@johnthecrazedsskull81]

I would like to point out the Skaven share some similarities with the Tau, like they're are ruled by a cast of grey furred wizards. But also most clans are off shoots of a major clan fulfils a niche like Clan Eshin being the assassins, Clan Moulder providing Monsters and Clan Skryer providing technology. But what get's interesting is when you look at Queek Headtaker who seems to have a lot of none-Skaven traits like honour and also has a deep hatred of Greyseers, which kinda makes him the Skaven version of Farsight especially considering he might be falling to Khorne. Plus both Tau and Skaven have a short lifespan and they both mirror humans with the Skaven representing the absolute worst aspects of it while the Tau represent the sinister side of governments.

[@oatmealman1586]

The skaven are also ridiculously similar to the imperium, with matching clans, tactics, power structure, and tech.

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Loyalist space marines would kinda be the bretonia knight since they can fight forever live forever and are able to heal wonds that should have killed them such as lossing a full arm

[@darthjekyll3648]

20:49 that's going in the book ya 🔪 👂

[@SlurpeeBoy9999]

Arguably, the Ogre-like faction is the Tyranids.

[@heimko3618]

I do still think you should make Warhammer Fantasy videos as well.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Maybe!

[@Manguepuch]

When i was first getting into warhammer 3 years ago i thought the vermintide games and by extension the fantasy setting took place in a stranded isolated planet from the rest of the imperium, kind of like what the first half of the descent of angels is like.

[@Keeagn]

We need more Warhammer Fantasy Lore videos!

[@zinller]

I mean Be'lakor, existing on both settings... Shame that feels that any other winks to the same universe are basically cameos on this point.

[@devnull1200]

My controversial head canon equivalent of races between fantasy and 40k (fight me!), AND PLEASE HEAR ME OUT I'M NOT INSANE: - Skaven = Tyranids (they are both an all consuming swarm race that seeks to consume all) - Loyalist Space Marines = Bretonnia (before Knights had lore) (just think about it: heavy armour, light colour schemes, heavy hitters with knightly codes of honour and that are heavily inspired by crusader knights in the sense that they live in "monasteries" and go on crusades) - The weirdest one: T'au and Lizardmen (HEAR ME OUT! They are equivalent, but in a comical way. I think GW made the T'au as a way to say "what if we make 40k Lizardmen but as the opposite". They're just too opposite to be casualty: the youngest and most naive faction, they're very tech focused and have near zero contact with the Warp, they favour range combat and are diplomatic and do not look down on other species like the Slann and their servants do)

[@leothewhiteranger]

Honestly, I'd like to see Hashut come about as a Vashtor style minor god.

[@RoyGuerrero1904]

I really like the lizardmen from fantasy in 40k

[@reeceskinner2776]

I like both. 40K and Fantasy. I don’t feel like it’s necessary to put factions from into the other as it can lead to identity loss, even though I really want my space rats, and both fantasy and 40K have very different feels to me, so I go to each for different reasons. Orks are a treasure though and are very distinct from other fantasy Orks so having more of them in whatever steering is always welcome

[@gstellar96]

I agree I think you can have mirrors like the Aeldari and the High Elves but I wouldn't want one to ones for every faction like the Admech for 40k and Lizardmen for fantasy

[@vitus6302]

21:20 why are you saying that chaos dwarves have no equivalent in 40k. I think chaos squats are the equivalent. Don’t you consider them Chaos dwarves equivalents because they don’t have their own chaos god like Hashut in fantasy? Imo bretonia and imperial knights are a further reach than chaos dwarves and chaos squats.

[@Dr.LightMarker5613]

Arch has an excellent video on the War for Cripple Peak, for those who want some context and info about Nagash and his antics. Also, the Skaven are involved, so fun all around!

[@InquisitorThomas]

0:08 I’m actually pretty sure we did during the End Times.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Oh shit really? 👀

[@Party4Lemons]

I remember reading about some Skaven using an Old Ones device in the End Times and communicating briefly with some Eldar from 40k, but they couldn't understand one another. Found this: “The warlock engineers soon discovered the Device of the Great Beyond, a communication apparatus that spoke to beings from beyond the stars. As they swirled its many dials, a querulous voice spoke through the stone speakers. That voice, fair and clear caused the Skaven to bolt away. The device was something like the far-squeaker, but the melodious tones that issued forth were, if anything, kin to the despised speech of the elf-things. As they did not understand the alien language, nor how the arcane contraption worked the warlock engineers pulled the device apart and shot it with warplock pistols until it stopped making any sounds.”@@livefromtheblacklibrary

[@adrianwright6417]

I think there are space marine equivalents in the empire of Man nightly orders. To name a few knights of the blazing Sun, knights panther, knights of Myrr, etc. these nightly orders have similar dispositions and abilities found uniquely in different space marine orders. A good video for the future...

[@yungmalaria]

I think the whole meme about the Imperium post-heresy and Skaven being the same thing kinda understates the uniqueness of Skaven society, and their overall lore and impact on the end times. The only thing they have directly in common is less rights the individual has the higher the population.

[@unclesamlore]

Warhammer fantasy? Nice

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Y U H

[@g.sergiusfidenas6650]

Tomb Kings video? Now that sounds lovely.

[@jrn6701]

this whole video has a really strong "well actually" vibe

[@BlindTimeLord]

I hope you do more fantasy videos, Old World and also AOS as I find them very interesting settings and would love to see more diverse content bar 40K. Maybe set up a separate channel for that?

[@abdullahalghanimi379]

Space Marines are a mix of Imperial Knights and Knights of Bretonnia. The diversity of the Imperial and the ritualistic aspects of following the lady: - Grail Knights being actually Space Marines and the lower knights being the Space Marine Scouts. - The pursuit of the Grail is similar to the training and surgery needed to become a full Space Marine, with some chapters like the Blood Angels drinking from a goblet to finish the process. - Inner Circle Knights being Space Marines Veterans. - Thematic Knightly Orders follow the same setup as Chapters, such as Knights of the Wolf and Space Wolves chapter.

[@HorizonIsHere1337]

Love your channel bro.

[@Mad_Geniuz]

i would say the closet would be lizardmen and Tau. Mainly case there is cast system and they both follow this idea. the greater good for Tau and the great plan for lizardmen..but that is really just surface ALSO magnus the Red is part of fanasty lore!!

[@ivannolan]

Comapring the knight and space marines was actually accurate empire knight divide into different orders that have different regalias and fighting styles and even have chapter masters that embody there order and also theres templars of sigmar which are witch hunters personal armored knight

[@libertylemonz7145]

I'd argue that the Space Marine equivalent of Fantasy are Bretonnian Grail Knights. Superhuman champions blessed by their god to fight Chaos and the enemies of their people, seen as divine beings by the common humans, they follow codes, they live in special holy buildings (Grail Chapels vs Fortress Monasteries), and their greatest foes are their own fallen brothers, Mousillon and the Blood Knights for Bretonnia, Chaos Space Marines for Space Marines. You could say that there's some Empire of Man influence in there too with the knightly orders being similar to the Space Marine chapters, and the Blood Knights are clearly the inspiration for the Blood Angels, but I think if you're looking to narrow things down to a single race it has to be Bretonnia and their Grail Knights.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

"I heard you are quite fond in this, 'Brazil', Mon-Keigh. Perhaps you will enjoy seeing it firsthand!

[@draco84oz]

I'd actually say that the Colleges of Magic are closer to the Adeptus Telepathica, and the equivalent of the Mechanicus being the Imperial Engineering School and Artillery College of Nuln. With the Wizard/Psyker comparison, both are greatly feared across the empire, actively hunted down by a form of state-sanctioned enforcer, if left unchecked can cause massive destruction, and can only actively learn, practice and improve their arts after going through a state-sanctioned training institution. (and lets not forget that the 40k 2nd edition Psychic Phase was an almost 1-to-1 copy of the Fantasy 4th Edition Magic Phase) The Imperial Engineers, however...okay, it is a bit more a stretch, but they're basically the ones that keep the Empire running, much like the Mechanicus does to the Imperium. They're needed to keep forges going and upkeep a lot of the infrastructure across the empire. This is on top of coming up with all sorts of weird inventions that occasionally don't kill the user, such as the Carriage-less Horse, Pigeon Bombs, artillery pieces, armoured fighting vehicles, drilling machines etc. Finally, I think Imperial Knights are the equivalent of Space Marines - Knightly Orders draw their recruits from various places, each have their own holdfast where they train and equip their members, each order has their own traditions and beliefs, their loyalty is to the Empire first and foremost, and are considered the elite of the Imperial armies. And if a count does manage to convince a Knightly Order to join him for battle, he'd be well advised to defer his leadership to the order's Grand Master. And then there's the fact that Archaon was originally an Imperial Knight - who managed to read the wrong book one time...

[@Nihoolious]

For the most part I prefer the way things are handled in 40k as opposed to their fantasy equivalent. That being said Archaon and the idea of the Everchosen is way better than Warmaster Abbadon and worthy of its own video. I mean he achieved total victory in a Warhammer setting which is quite the accomplishment.

[@somerandommen]

Naggaroth isn't a city. It's a continent. It's the equivalent of North and Central America.

[@jmd9402]

I actually watched a video by glue boy about imotekh the storm lord and how he was awakened to settle a civil war powergrab on his planet, so I commented *"so basically, imotekh is 40k settra"*

[@Rajayali]

What seems to me like the closest 1 to 1 fantasy proxy for Space Marines would be the Knights of the White Wolf and Space Wolves, as the knights are heavily armoured, very zealous and fighty, do not wear helmets, have beards and wild hair, serve a wolf god and wear wolf pelts on their armour.

[@Dredgenvore]

Hmmm, a fanart section. Thanks for the new photoshop material chrono.

[@CarMADforever]

For consideration; Lizardmen are the Space Marines. Generally elite in nature with specialized troops and overall stronger but less numerous. Holier than thou nature too, while aligned against Chaos they will also just disregard "allies" and sometimes actively fuck with them all in the name of the Great Plan, much like SMs will just disregard aid requests if they feel it is beneath them (For actively fucking with allies, see Vraks and the Dark Angels)

[@capsizemoonz2251]

If you do more fantays lore videos could you go over the orcs and goblins, mainly goblins characters like grom and skarsnik dont have any 40k equivalents and their pretty interesting in how they effected the old world Edit to add i think the closest thing space marines have in fantasy are the bretonnian knights both have asperants and squiers going through riggerous training to become super soldiers

[@gstellar96]

Goblins are done so dirty in 40k it's not even funny

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Great video!

[@The-mini-Maniac]

I’m sure someone has mentioned the squats being dwarves, and yes 40K did also have chaos squats as well at one point a very long time ago. They are no longer part of 40K universe, LoV are just the new squats, and hopefully we’ll get chaos leagues lol

[@badhoplite7299]

an interesting comparison that can be made thanks to recent lore changes is that the Newly introduced Children of the Dragon Emperor are Basically the fantasy Primarchs

[@MetalKing1417]

The warhammer 40k factions feel like condensations and decomposites of often multiple fantasy counterparts (which is odd considering 40k is an entire galaxy and faantasy is limited to a single planet). For example the Orks are both the Orcs and Scaven. The undead egyptians of the tomb kings is obviously filled in by the necrons, but the Thousand sons also fill that role up from another angle. Ogres are obviously Ogryn, but from a narrative/thematic role, you also have the tyranids/great devourer.

[@bengonzalez5215]

The adeptus mechanicus know a LOT about technology. What they generally dont do is innovate or invent but the STC that they do have they have encyclopedic knowledge of and guard ir fiercely

[@Jey096]

Chaos dwarves are the dark mechanicum in 40k. Both use demons as spicy batteries.

[@wesleyalana]

Bretonische is definitely space marine… they are separate from all other men and follow a calling… and are Kik assss

[@JDawggProductions]

Kalidor Draego went to try n save dantasy and failed lmaooo

[@adrianwright6417]

I think the psychic power of the lizard men go off to several races, such as tyranids.

[@oliveragag8576]

It's worth noting that Sigmar's divinity was never really in question before the End Times. Pretty much everyone acknowledged he was a god. Also it's eorth noting a major difference between the empire of man and the imperium of man is their religious tolerance. Multiple deities are worshipped in the empire, even Sigmar still worships Ulric.

[@wowsomeguy4055]

I can’t wait for you too give your opinion on the end and the death vol.3💯

[@bosskaiju4834]

If you want to do more Fantasy video, I'm all for it, because it has a very interesting lore and it's gotten a real rise in popularity thanks to the Total War games.

[@dargo1183]

"I'm a tank, I'm a tank"

[@ElClaudioBasado]

Another banger of a video Chrono 💯, even after reading much of the lore in your video I never know that the Sisters of Battle where in Fantasy

[@azurewraith2585]

"the skaven are just kind of a joke" *end times have entered the chat*

[@HalduBouyaNono2]

I love when the Warhammer Fantasy lore get attention.

[@MrKiller1250]

I would say that a grail night is pretty similar to a space marine Skaven are a lot similar to mechanicus Orks in 40k are just orks from fantasy. Because while they do slap stuff together that is because they have innate knowledge on how stuff works, while scaven on the other hand are like tech priests where they don't really know how their stuff works apart from a few very smart skaven that are somewhere doing something else or dead. They sometimes invent stuff but most of the time not really.

[@rukeyazu8669]

I can promise I would watch any warhammer fantasy videos you released. While I don’t find it as cool as 40k, I still really like it.

[@jorgedeanoperez2997]

You had a video on the time of the three Emperors? Tbh I would blame the algorithm more, because I would love to see that

[@Town617]

I could argue that the tau and the dwarves match up the best. Simply because of their technological innovations and advancements in both universes. Plus both races on rare occasions allow humans to join their society. Their powerful range attacks and hatred for orks also come to mind

[@ChrisKCook]

The Sisters of Battle were in Rogue Trader they didn't get a full list until 97.

[@yaboimagnus5845]

I mean, the best comparison in fantasy to space marines would be the stormcast eternals. But i'm not sure if they were present in regular fantasy on account of not being familiar with the thing

[@Ottersanity]

If they make an Exodite Army, they should make them a combo of Wood Elves and Lizard Men

[@Tulkash01]

The equivalent of loyalist Space Marines would be bretonnian grail knights actually

[@Thapion]

The equivalent of Spaces Marines in Fantasy would be the warrior priest of Sigmar, after all the astartes are always described as monastic

[@henryheavy8044]

Fantasy videos has my eternal consent !

[@fancypantsmanface2445]

There are no men at the South Pole. Only chaos penguins.

[@jman6822]

Ngash is probably the greatest antagonist in all of warhammer

[@Sara3346]

I would watch a Tomb Kings video.

[@Yeigou4]

I think that the wood elves are more like harlequins, cause the wood elves as a faction appeared after the war of the beard, not the sundering, both factions are kinda isolated from the rest, in 40k they guard the black library and in fantasy the Oak of ages, they are the only elf factions that have gods actively helping them, Cegorach/Ariel and Orion, plus the wood elves have the wardancers, they like to fuck with the rest of factions and are mysterious for bretonians and man, and basically the goal of both factions its fighting chaos