We Need to Talk About The All New Scout...

[@GM-kj6sb]

Great another $60k+ EV that will depreciate like a rock

[@michaelmclovin5098]

The vehicle, literally no one asked for but we are apparently going to get, good and hard, also, the idea of a battery powered Off-Road vehicle is preposterous.

[@kjfishman547]

My thoughts exactly.

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

Its good they depreciate, people who buy a car to sell only a few years or less later dont deserve to receive a good price for it. We are blowing through products like they are disposable

[@GM-kj6sb]

@@nativeoutdoors1780 that’s not the point. They depreciate way faster than normal ICE or hybrid vehicles and people are underwater in loans they can’t get out of because the car is worth $15k but they owe $30k on their lease. This is not happening as much with ICE and hybrids.

[@nativeoutdoors1780]

@@GM-kj6sb they need to put more money down then, being under in a loan is easily avoidable

[@michaelmcgranor1565]

Not sure where they do their research but, nobody in rural America wants a EV.

[@carlpaladino427]

Few people most places in the US want EV. Most automakers are deciding hybrids are the answer.

[@alleyoop4465]

​@@carlpaladino427nobody thinks hybrids are the answer. This country runs on petroleum, it's that simple.

[@SA-xf1eb]

Exactly, the plug-in hybrid option would be great. EV only is a hard pass.

[@waynegardella6263]

Rural America is dying and no real corporate entity gives a rat's butt about them.

[@waynegardella6263]

No one really cares what happens in rural America, their population is dying and there is little to no growth there. Not to mention that rural America doesn't have any real purchasing power that will drive a mega-automotive company to make something, especially for them. EVs work best in congested cities and suburbs.

[@ATVDUDEZ]

An all electric Scout, VW answering the question that no one is asking.... Put a TDI and some solid axels on it and now were talking.

[@SpeedKLS]

Exactly would be the answer but probably be ifs irs just be a vw version of the newer range rover with ev to sell to the public

[@SDwriter.and.surfer]

That's what I've been saying also for a couple of years since first hearing about this new "Scout". Put in a modern V6 turbodiesel of some type. The goal being torque (like the old SV engines, 345, etc.) and fuel economy (NOT like the old SV engines).

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@SDwriter.and.surfer These will probably have 500hp and get 72mpg/e

[@SDwriter.and.surfer]

@@anthonyrowland9072 250 HP (from a diesel) and twice the range (of an EV) would make a lot more sense. Scouts were never supposed to be dragsters. 0-60 bragging rights is dumb anyway What it needs is good ground clearance, good articulation and traction, and a decent cargo capacity.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@SDwriter.and.surferAnd it's gonna have all that and twice the power.

[@MHix63]

Sweet! A new Scout! (watching excitedly for 35 seconds until I hear it's all electric...) Ah, well that sucks. Moving on.

[@chucklaux8197]

As someone that has owned 4 of the best Scouts made, congrats to the new Scout company on building a Bronco

[@bikerevolutiontv]

Bronco sucks

[@GettingthruLife]

@@jimjones-pz1tt It wont be electric till most likely -2027. Maybe a hybrid mid 2026 but at 55K plus price and few made.

[@GettingthruLife]

@jimjones-pz1tt I didn't intend to get a comment from an overly angry, bipolar person. This company will change their plans with a new president. Most people don't want all electric. Also, using the Lord's name in vain is low class and scummy.

[@MustangMuscle]

Hahaha, EV. That's funny.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@MustangMuscleI can make electricity at my house...

[@arieljones4595]

"30% of customers said they want their new vehicle to be EV... so we went that route." So 70% of customers said they dont want their new vehicle to be EV, so you went ahead and made it an EV? Brilliant.

[@SA-xf1eb]

😂 I would love to know what he is smoking. 70% rejecting EV, but he is optimistic.

[@gamingrecever175]

I guess they're not interested in making money! Great business plan!!

[@waynegardella6263]

Around 14 million vehicles are sold just in America on an annual basis. Around 1.6 million of those sales are EVs in 2022 and the numbers are looking like 3.4 million in 2024 and over 5.5 million in 2026. If the trend continues, around 30%+ of all vehicle sales in the USA will be EVs easily by 2026 - 2028 time-frame. VW is a global entity and Scout distribution will be international. A wild guess would be around 1/3 of sales will go overseas. That is about what the USA BMW facilities export. A facility that can produce 400,000 EV vehicles at full production in the early years is a stretch in my humble opinion. Nevertheless, over the next five to fifteen years it is feasible to run the facility at close to full production. 95% of all "off-road" vehicles never see a dirt road. I had an Xterra Pro 4X when I lived in Montana that I put into four-wheel drive on dirt roads maybe a few dozen times over the eight years I owned it. Hitting some remote rivers to fly fish. Only once was it absolutely necessary and the technology got me out of a rough situation. As for EV's I own both a V8 470 HP 5.0 liter ICE vehicle and a "Poor man's Tesla - a Chevy Bolt". We now live in an NF/ MLB/NHL/MSL city were traffic is horrible. The EV gets around 132 MPB equivalent as they do better in stop-and-go traffic, while my V8 gets an average of around 13 MPG. I take one trip a year where an EV isn't feasible. It is time to trade in the V8 for another EV. And if I take a long trip I can rent a car for $48 a day. If the Scout is priced in the $35K-$40K I may buy one. Much over that I will probably wait a year or two and get one used.

[@davidscales1464]

You left out the most crucial stats.. CHARGE TIME & CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. A gas powered vehicle can be fueled to 💯 in 3 minutes (EV 10 minutes +) & the closest charging stations currently in shopping centers are 300 yds away from the store entrances(Americans are too lazy to walk that far) EV’s are DOA for atleast another decade

[@J.W.W.]

Was interested until I heard it’s EV only. These guys can’t be blind to the current market pull-back from EVs? Huge risk here

[@youngblood23rb]

Yep lost interest at all EV

[@Omk1336]

Ev for 7 years or less, and after that, you have to change the battery, but the combustion engine for life

[@manoloprpr]

All they are after is investors like NIKOLA and other manufacturers who got cash and shut down

[@bluecollarbuilds]

I’m also anti EV but considering its a Volkswagen product going electric might be the best choice otherwise it’ll be just as bad as the new defender

[@kman0074]

@@Omk1336 ok most gas engines don’t last without major repairs past 150,000 miles Or ten years except the few cases. EVs can do the same or more on the same battery. And in the NE they will both rust long before the engine or battery dies.

[@Letmec0mmentplz]

I love how car companies can get almost everything right on a remake, but always fail in one area that can kill the whole brand. In this case it's the electric powertrain. It'll loose hard to the bronco because of that

[@adamcousins2459]

It'll lose hard to the Mahindra Roxor actually. Much closer to a Scout than this abomination.

[@cjackfly]

Wanna bet?

[@wimsurf]

VW is european, their view is based on euro requirements which are unfortunately EV based..

[@JulianGonzalez1974]

You lost me at the :37 mark "...all electric Scout..."

[@neonnoodle1169]

Lost me 10 seconds earlier....when I heard the work Volkswagen. No thanks!

[@DaveInCanada081]

I made it to :42..nothing to see here.

[@RazvanMihaeanu]

We deserve a cold beer.

[@theantiqueactionfigure]

I liked the after market range extenders on the old Scout. Five gallons each!

[@M85Iroc]

As a current EV owner, all I can say is I can't wait for my 2024 Tacoma to come in. Going all Electric on the new scout is a mistake.

[@sally_the_saturn_sl2290]

There is indeed a lot of history behind International Harvester and the Scout. My family all worked at the Fort Wayne harvester plant and actually my great great grandfather helped build the heat treat ovens there during construction of the plant. Between uncle's and grandparents my family had about 140 years of service to IH. It was a very sad day when construction of the Scout ended and when they closed down the plant in the 80s. My dad built and did a full frame off restoration on my grandfather's scout in the mid 90s to commemorate my familes history at IH, it was an insanely cool truck with a bunch of custom parts that made it something truly special. It was totalled by new owners a long time ago but the memories live on. I know most of Fort Wayne would have loved to see them build the plant here. But at least it's still American made. Hopefully the new models will live up to their hype. Great video guys, keep em coming!

[@pangoroo]

They are electric, they will never live up to the history.

[@kenwilliams4086]

My first thought after learning where the new Scouts would be built was why not build them in Fort Wayne. Ford is building the new Broncos in Michigan and Wranglers are still made in Toledo. A better marketing story would have been to resume the Scout production in Fort Wayne.

[@diesel6916]

They want to build them non union @@kenwilliams4086

[@johnlamers4762]

I was just thinking to myself, Sorry not a Scout if it’s not made in the Fort. EV also kills it. Sad as there was hope at the beginning of this!!!!

[@TimeMariner]

It is an embarassment to the scout name

[@davidshettlesworth1442]

OK, I wish them all the success the old Scout platform deserves. By waiting a year or so, with a product available in the 2026 release year, they will be able to learn a lot about "what works and what does not work!" The planners should call Ford and ask "How are those all electric trucks working out for ya Buddy!" The Scout team better do their homework!

[@waynegardella6263]

Sales of America's No. 1 selling electric truck, the F-150 Lightning, totaled 15,645 through June of this year. F-150 Lightning sales for Q2 totaled 7,902, up 77 percent from a year ago. Maybe they DID ASK FORD and did their homework?

[@aaronmontford7123]

Can’t wait to have another $100k EV 4x4 on the market! If they really want to burry the competition, make a bare bones 4x4 plug-in hybrid priced around $45k.

[@backwoodstherapy]

Sad that we're at the point where a $45k vehicle is considered "bare bones," even if it is electrified.

[@jsaun6684]

a hybrid option would defintiely be cool. especially one with a similar setup to the new toyota tundra with a twin turbo hybrid v6. with almost 400hp and 500 trq

[@GallatinMan]

How about a bare bone ICE for $30k.

[@CarswithNash]

The problem is the batteries cost so much they can't make a cheap one, they would lose money, that's why most the EVs are aimed at the luxury market so they can command the price that will give them their profits.

[@willb3018]

EV on the market? Lately, it is starting to look like on the lots. Hybrid or nothing for me. Ford just dropped the Mach E up to 8 grand.

[@southsidetom]

Build a off road battery vehicle that you can"t recharge anywhere off road! Great business model. Have fun driving it in a shopping mall bro.

[@WorthlessNickores]

Whenever you use the word _bro_ which is probably every other sentence, please just say _baa_ instead. Because people who use it just sound like stupid sheep. Probably addicted to tiktok covered with tattoos.

[@sunbeam8866]

No problem! Just mount a bunch of solar-cells on the roof. Then park in the sun for a couple weeks. You might go a few more miles! 🙂

[@dallasbrown-ew8yk]

Solar panels or bring a generator. Also, rivian overlanded their truck across the whole country and managed to make it to charging stations every time.

[@sunbeam8866]

@@dallasbrown-ew8yk A generator? That's NOT saving the planet! By the way, how far off-road was the Rivian?

[@godgirlsguitars]

Do they have gas pumps off road?

[@paulwicklund5044]

I owned a 1980 scout with the Nissan turbo diesel and the 4-speed manual. I got 36 mpg with it.

[@sunbeam8866]

Wonder how many Scout diesels were built, and how many are left?

[@schlite60]

@@sunbeam8866Not very many and I had one with 250K miles when traded in. The Nissan Diesel also had a head cracking problem between the valves; had two heads replaced under warranty. With 373 gears/wide 4 speed about 25-30 MPG with factory air. Now if they built one a modern diesel in it; I would buy it.

[@adamcousins2459]

@@schlite60 you and me and millions of others would buy it.

[@levyoliver5363]

Wow great!🎉

[@levyoliver5363]

​@@sunbeam8866 i want to know too how many Scouts and the diesel ones are still alive...i would like to give one a good home. 🎉❤😅

[@Clockwork0nions]

>aw yeah the Scout is coming back! >I hope its capable and affordable >All electric Well there goes any excitement I had.

[@hugokatz]

Something missing with the new Scout. A V8

[@MineGames131]

Heck I'd take the 2.3 Ecoboost in the new Bronco over an electric powertrain

[@beans4gas]

It cums with a flat 8. 8 batteries. ☹

[@RockandrollNegro]

The vast majority of original Scouts and Scout IIs had a four cylinder or straight 6. Some years, the AMC I6 had even more horsepower than the optional IH V8. I'd be satisfied with an inline 4 or 6, as Ford seems to be the only automaker still willing to build V8s, but absolutely nobody that would use a 4x4 for an offroader or trailrider is thinking about EVs. Anyone can throw some jerrycans on the back of their Jeep or Bronco and not get stuck out in the woods, but there's no electrical charging stations out in the middle of the wilderness, and these same econuts that are pushing us to give up ICE would scream bloody murder if Elon Musk tried to build a powergrid in the rainforest.

[@RayWenner]

A straight 6

[@beans4gas]

@@RayWenner I'd rather have a gay-6.

[@Nitromudder]

My 81 year old dad and his, would be 93 year old Brother built the old Scout's. So I was very excited when I saw this, then you said EV. Too bad.

[@ReloaderJoe]

Would have been nice if they had used a normal, reliable internal combustion engine. Something robust like the Toyota 4.0 or a small diesel engine like they always use in 4x4s overseas.

[@ckm-mkc]

Pretty sure VW is NOT going to offer a diesel......

[@sunbeam8866]

Oh no! Government says 'ICE bad! Diesel Very bad! You will drive EV, or walk!"

[@panzer948]

Well EV motors are much more reliable than gas engines. Do some homework.

[@stevethemechanic8099]

It looks pretty good styled kind of like the old one, at least should make a 4cyl gas version so people can take it into the woods like camping and stuff

[@dukeofbanfe]

6 would be better or even a 4 cylinder hybrid. But I agree, there needs to be a cheaper or at least more practical version for people that actually want to off road

[@Darksong1212]

100%

[@ColbyWanShinobi]

Awesome news! We need something fresh to stir things up. We can never have too many $80k off-road vehicles for the everyman!

[@neonnoodle1169]

Exactly. What a joke this segment has become. No company sell anything remotely close to the spirit of the original versions of these nameplates. They are all outrageously expensive, loaded to the roof with features, electronics, and "content". And now, EV??? NO thanks.

[@Darksong1212]

$45k actually.

[@JamesDBuzzard]

My Grandpa worked as an engineer for International Harvester back in the day. My mom‘s first car was a 1970 scout! Super cool to see these come back my mom loved her scout, but said it sucked down gas like nothing she had ever driven before. Good thing gas back then was like $.30 a gallon 🤯

[@sunbeam8866]

Wonder what kind of gas mileage the 4-cylinder Scout would get?

[@RockandrollNegro]

@@sunbeam8866 The 2.5 got about 20mpg and the 3.2 got about 25mpg. The Nissan Turbodiesel I6 was the most fuel efficient option; it got around 32mpg. The AMC straight sixes got about 24mpg. If you're wondering why anyone would get the 2.5 option that got less mpg and had less horsepower and torque, it was because that was the only way to get a Scout with an airconditioner. There was no room for the compressor if you opted for the 3.2 or the I6s.

[@gregss.771]

1. it will be loaded with ridiculous gadgets. 2, it will have several models, 3, it will be VERY expensive. 4, it still will NOT be able to be used for a week long trip in the back country due to battery discharge.

[@sunbeam8866]

Assuming it makes production, it will NOT sell!

[@KiegKillsReality]

Yeah it’s pretty depressing.

[@panzer948]

Batteries don't discharge by themselves bud. You cut it off at 80% you will return days later at 80%. Not much different from gas in alot of ways... no gas stations in the wild either.

[@gregss.771]

@@panzer948 False, all batteries have to maintain an internal constant temperature and use their own power to maintain that, there fore they discharge. There are thousands of reports of people going to airports parking their electric car that was at full charge and then coming back a week later and the car has barely any charge left. Electric trucks and SUVs taken camping during cold nights or hot days the battery system will engage heaters or cooling systems to maintain their temp and go dead over time.

[@panzer948]

@gregss.771 well you can yell "false" all you want but as an EV owner of a Mach E and a former 11 year owner of a Chevy Volt I have never seen this happen when returning to car say after a week long vacation etc. I am sure there are exceptions to the rule in bad weather, etc. And maybe certain brands. But this comes like some serious fake news! Just like one EV has a fire, so they all must catch on fire and burn. BTW gas doesnt have an infinite life span either... just saying if you want to take it to extremes. But yeah, I get sick of people spreading bad info. As they say, truth is always somewhere in the middle.

[@TT-ch2pz]

My granddad had a scout and I learned to drive in it. They were very heavy vehicles. It went through the snow really well as long as you had speed on your side, but if you got it stuck it took an International Harvester tractor to pull it out.

[@SDwriter.and.surfer]

A lot of people think that. Heavy compared to what though? CJs maybe. My Scout II with steel top and roof rack weighs maybe 4600-4800#, depending on what I'm carrying. That's the same weight range as a new Jeep Rubicon 4-door and Toyota 4Runner. The original Jeep Wagoneer weighed about the same as a Scout II. The current Wagoneer is a pig at 5800#. And the old Scouts are flyweights compared to some of these new EVs. Rivian SUV weighs 7000#! I don't want to think about what the new Scout will weigh. Another interesting fact: Scout II is kinda small actually. Mine has a smaller footprint than my wife's Subaru Crosstrek. The Scout is shorter overall, narrower overall, shorter WB, narrower track (I think). But the Scout's sure as heck taller.

[@KevinNiven]

I thought we figured out that EV and four-wheeling don't mix?

[@Nitromudder]

As an engineer I hate to say this, But we did figure it out, the stupid engineers didn't. LOL

[@anthonyrowland9072]

Who figured that out?

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@jimjones-pz1tt Everybody doesn't live in Montana or whatever. Move to civilization..

[@Nitromudder]

@@anthonyrowland9072 Anyone who has gone offroad for a weekend. Range and refueling matter. Do you tow the generator or roof mount it? EV defenders act like we hate EV's, we dont, we hate long charge times and lack of locations to do it. It will get better, I am aware. I am glad they are making them, just hate government mandates on something that is not ready. Let the market dictate it, at some point I assume it will make sense.

[@sonsoflibertyoverland]

@@anthonyrowland9072 So you off-road in civilization?

[@flyovercounty1427]

I’m going to recharge mine with currant bushes.

[@gordonwallin2368]

I had a 1952 International 1/2 ton pick up-with "highway gears" -unbreakable! Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@davidtaylor9489]

They missed the EV window. EV fanboys have already adopted and the market will only grow at gunpoint.

[@spyder000069]

Looking at the concept drawings I get basically zero feelings of scout nostalgia.

[@tritchie6272]

Not having an ICE option is a big mistake in my opinion. Seems to me like they are relying way to heavy on Kommifornia and mandates.

[@elizabethwonders]

I loved my 1978 Scout II! That 727 torque flight trans and a 345 V8!! Annnd lovely gas mileage of 10 mpg!! 😂😂👍😊💃

[@SDwriter.and.surfer]

I get better mileage than that with my '78, which also has the original 345, but I've got a 4-speed manual. 12-14 mpg at cruising speed. 50-70 mph. Noticeably lower around town though I'll admit. I've had my Scout for over 30 years now.

[@elizabethwonders]

@@SDwriter.and.surfer That’s great MPG for a 30 year old Scout! Wow!! Any rust? Or did you convert the tub over to Fiberglass? Sadly, I had to sell mine, because, at the time, I couldn’t find anyone to replace my tub. It was pretty chewy and flaking rust on the floor boards and on the door sills. This was years ago, before the Internet was a big thing. I love that you have owned yours for so many years!! How many miles? That 345 V-8 is awesome!! 👍😊 You can beat them up and they come back for more! 👍😎

[@SDwriter.and.surfer]

@@elizabethwonders Original engine, never been rebuilt. Still passes smog! And this Scout's actually coming up on 45 years old now. Hard to believe. Original tub. Yes, some rust. But I live in San Diego, so it's not totally rotted out like some Scouts. I have a windshield frame in my garage that I've been working on for years, little by little. Rust-free, since the one on my scout's pretty rotted out now. The new one is primed and ready for paint though. The Scout's proven to be a great camping vehicle though. I take it out to the desert a few times every year.

[@MrMattMohler]

I find it unbelievable that fans of the OG Scout would be the slightest bit excited about an electric variant... 🤷‍♂️

[@MrMattMohler]

@jimjones-pz1tt "Blah blah NEW SCOUT blah blah..." Hell yea, let's get the club together and ride out! 🤣

[@GM-kj6sb]

Why not put the VW 4 cylinder turbo in here or make a hybrid?

[@Offensivebeast]

TDI scout? 👀

[@GM-kj6sb]

@@Offensivebeast yes!!

[@Offensivebeast]

@@GM-kj6sb in a perfect world, unless it was a diesel electric power train which I think a lot of people would be keen to see!

[@mediocreman2]

Put the V6 TDI in there.

[@robertkwalz]

I bet you'll see some sort of hybrid option when it releases.

[@Arcl1t]

I am well into my 30s, I own a 1993 Land Cruiser, I love retro-styled trucks and taking them offroad. I am the target audience for Scout. Hear me out: "I'm gonna take my capable offroad vehicle into the event it was designed for - into the wild, off the grid, find some adventures not sure when I'm going to be able to refuel out there, I better fill up a jerry can with some ... oh wait." 😮 This thing will have to stay real close to residential areas. It's basically an early generation tesla with big wheels and worse efficiency. And have you seen how EVs handle soft and loose surfaces? They sink due to weight. What a waste. Toyota did it right with the new LC - hybrid wound be the way to go if you want to be green without compromising much. Also, the general concept of rugged retro-looking vehicles is to target more mature audiences. Those same audiences despise EVs. Who's the genius that thought that same people would see this and think "hell yeah"? Have you even heard an EV driver say "he'll yeah"? Also, immediate Bronco vibes. Not that something's wrong with it, but you took an existing vehicle and made it worse (for the target use) by making it an EV. PS Watching TFL go full corporate and acknowledge only the "positive" comment in the most soulless manner to appease the manufacturers is just sad.

[@timthetoolman223]

Just the vehicles to make use of that huge off-road charging network...

[@IndefiniteGentlemen]

But lets be honest, these arent really going off-road.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

Guess they can use the "off-road" gasoline fueling network.

[@is6566]

The off-road fueling network is called gas can. Anyone doing off roading knows that.

[@deemcclanahan]

@@is6566 sadly tho, these vehicles won't have that all-needed fueling port for their batteries

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@is6566 And you can find full gas cans all over the place in the middle of nowhere right?

[@michaelswick4251]

Love the old Scouts. Had an old one to plow snow with. Engines last forever. Had to get a fiberglass body because the original rusted.

[@levyoliver5363]

Nice to hear about Scout bodies remake with non corrosive material such as fiberglass. Remaking Spare Scout bodies with galvanized metal, aluminum, or even stainless sheet metal would be awsome.! 🎉🎉🎉

[@JT_Adventures]

I grew up with international vehicles. Learned to drive in my dad’s 1963 IH pickup (3 on a tree!) & we had family vacation road trips in a 1973 Travelall. Loved them & loved the scout. If they make a truly capable 4x4 that is affordable it will fly out of the showrooms.

[@HardcountsAdventures]

I don't see this company making it to production but time will tell.

[@waynegardella6263]

They have invested a few billion and unlike all the other start-up EV companies have parents with very deep pockets. The video did not really cover the ins and outs of the facility, but it is built to be flexible and can churn out ICE vehicles if and when needed. Right now it's just a political statement to go all-electric. Consumer demand will at some point insist on either a hybrid or the VW sweet four-cylinder turbo workhorse that is sold all over the globe.

[@CarswithNash]

I'm not really into the EV aspect of it and I still don't see EVs playing out long term... but I guess as long as we're going down that path this is pretty cool way to do it. I'm a big International fan myself and one of my earliest memories is riding in my dad's Scout.

[@shekharmoona544]

Best classic scout I ever saw was at Fort Knox. It belonged to a SFC that was a Drill Sgt for the 19D course.

[@20tea]

Keep it simple, spartan, convertible and with solid axle dana 44s!

[@dukeofbanfe]

I think auto manufacturers are allergic to simple, spartan, and solid axles these days.

[@JasonMcCord-qk3yb]

I have visions of being stranded in the tree line with dead batteries…. I wish they would make an “overland” version with a small gas engine or Hydrogen engine, if they want to stay Zero emissions) for “on the trail charging”. I really feel like we true “Off-roaders” suffer from range anxiety, more than most other owners. One of the guys in my community brought his Rivian on one of our easier “Nature” trails. This trail winds through some mountains and ends at a rural town about 40 miles (Airmiles, NOT GROUND MILES) away. It has lots of twists and turns and lots of rocky, uphill climbs. When he began, the Rivian driver showed that he had over 200 miles of range. We ended up having to bring a generator back from town to charge him, as his batteries ran flat a few miles out of town. All the uphill driving used his charge up a lot sooner than he thought it would.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

What if you out of gas...

[@sunbeam8866]

@@anthonyrowland9072Do you know what jerry-cans are? Refuel in minures vs recharge in hours!

[@mortallobster897]

The general public’s desire for EVs may have been slightly over estimated. Good luck.

[@newsboyify]

I would not gone full EV give the buyer options EV,gas, Diesel

[@dandyjones1185]

Is someone forgetting that Willys produced the 4x4 station wagon prior to the Scout in 1946? Fully enclosed with some creature comforts.

[@CabanaD]

This is where Scout needs to understand the market a little better and put a v8 (coyote?) in it.

[@waynegardella6263]

They know the market and should be able to see a few hundred thousand EVs out of this plant. My guess at least 50% of the production will go back to the EU where gas is over $7 per gallon.

[@sledge7583]

Rory better start working on a fast charger recovery vehicle, you know, when they run out of juice in Moab.

[@waynegardella6263]

Building vehicles for Moab....what maybe 1,000 a year? Building vehicles for folks who own four-wheel drive vehicles who live in big cities 399,000.

[@LeLilley1]

I bought an International Scout back in 1974 and drove it about 3 years. I have fond memories of being pulled out of mud holes and deep rutted roads by my Jeep buddies!! Hahaha! I am really curious about how this will all turn out . . . Especially the EV decision.

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for sharing

[@MarkTrades__]

an off-roader you have to wonder if you total everytime the bottom of the undercarriage touches anything! whoo!

[@jamesmignogna4942]

ok, I have always LOVED the International Scout. Despite my excitement on this project I am skeptical of a few things. One is that they are looking to Rivian as a main competitor, and that teaser image looks a little too "space age" for my tastes, but primarily that for a car that will ostensibly be released in 2026/27 the only option as a full hybrid is just a bad call. This should be, at its heart, a hardcore 'froder. That means "go anywhere" and the reality is that charging stations will not be available in the most remote areas, which is the very place this vehicle should be meant to take you. The last thing we need is to turn this icon into a pavement princess. just my thoughts.

[@haroldbradford7983]

I was excited to see your video about the possibility of one of my all time favorites returning, that is until 0:36..."an all electric scout" 🤮. Have we learned nothing over the last couple of years.....?

[@waynegardella6263]

The folks who have not learned anything are those who just can not come to terms that the world is always changing and EVs are here to stay. I have both an ICE and an EV. Have you ever driven an EV? Once you do, you get hooked. I was apprehensive at first but I can adapt to change.

[@haroldbradford7983]

The problem is that most all of this is based on "Government mandates" and has nothing to do with consumer demand. A few of these will sell to "hobbyist" or those with a desire to keep up with the times, but electric cars "are not" the future. With current government mandates gutting and weakening our power grid, it's hard to understand how adding electric dependent vehicles are going to be successful and fill a nonexistent void. I'm glad you're excited about EVs, but for those of us who are needing dependable long term transportation we/I are going to stick with ICE for the foreseeable future. I would bet if this same vehicle was offered in the 2 different platforms, ICE or EV, the ICE would sell 100s to 1, can anyone say Ford Lightning, Hummer or Rivian....?

[@waynegardella6263]

@@haroldbradford7983 "The Gird" is a lot more intricate than you think. 98% of this so-called "Grid" is healthy and can easily handle tens of millions of new EVs. Utility companies currently invest over $168 billion per year in capital expenditures, much of this going to new power production and grids. They are not going to just sit there and do nothing. These grids will, for the most part, grow at the same trajectory as new EV's come onto the market. It is the same "the sky is falling" lines that naysayers said about adding heat pumps to houses to replace coal and oil heating in houses or adding electric-based lights to streets when we switched over from gas lights, and on and on. Here is Florida, the power company ENCOURAGES folks by providing FREE EV chargers to anyone who wants one and a set $38 PER MONTH fee to use as much power as one needs with no limits. Seems they know what the future holds and is investing heavily in it [at the tune of over $9 billion in 2024 alone!]. I wouldn't worry much about the grid. Yes grids do fail from time-to-time, but so do gasoline refineries. Nothing is ever fail-safe, As for dependability, I have both an EV and an ICE vehicle. The EV has been ten-fold more dependable than my ICE vehicle. Both have over 75,000 miles on them and the ICE vehicle has cost me well over $5,500 in engine repairs since the warranty expired. While my EV has never been in the shop, not a single time. Government mandates have never superseded consumer demand when there is a choice. There is zero requirement from state or federal governments that currently push consumers over to purchase EVs. Some states would like to be all EV by some way out in the future date but that is just "pie in the sky" politics. It will never happen. Sales of America's No. 1 selling electric truck, the F-150 Lightning, totaled 15,645 through June of this year. F-150 Lightning sales for Q2 2023 totaled 7,902, up 77 percent from a year ago. Whereas, ICE F150 sales were 165,514 units in Q4 2023. The ICE truck industry isn't going to be replaced by EVs in my lifetime. My long-term plans are to have both an ICE vehicle and an EV. Both serve their purposes in my big city current traffic congested lifestyle. I get around 13 mpg with my 5.0 liter V8 Genesis, and get 131 MPG equivalent with my Chevy Bolt. Around town driving the Bolt makes more sense. Now, when I lived in rural Montana owning an EV would have been silly-stupid.

[@BobZed]

I learned to drive in a Scout. I think it had about 80 horsepower? 3 speed, four cylinders. If you shifted into compound low, it would lug forever. It was sort of a convertible. If you un unbolted the top, and got three friend to help you move it off, you could sort of get the tires to chirp if you really hit the throttle and dropped the clutch. My siblings got to drive a Scouit II. My dad also took a look at an International Travelall, but decided that he wanted a vehicle that could get miles per gallon rather than gallons per mile.

[@GonzalezLaMedina]

Wow How do you know all that?

[@b.strong9347]

Are they in an echo chamber or am I? I hear such mixed news surrounding evs. Someone interprets the data one way claiming they continue to grow in the market while the government seemingly forces the transition. Then, others see the data and claim these vehicles sit on the lot much longer and are slowing in sales to the point that some manufacturers are rethinking the all-ev thing and are introducing new cars that had been advertised as ev-only with now options to be an ice. This vehicle as seen in renderings elsewhere also looks like a miss and just looks like another bulky crossover. While I understand that regulations create a very difficult obstacle when designing smaller vehicles, how difficult would it be for someone to design and build a basic small vehicle with just a good old fashioned 4banger or v6? Especially if it were designed to match the former International Scout, it seems like it would sell like wild. Similar to the Gladiator. While it does seem like it sells well, it’s just a swing and a miss to me. It should have not had the back seat and been several feet shorter much like its own predecessor. At least Ford (with the Bronco) stayed true to the styling of the old Bronco (unlike Chevy just slapping Blazer on another crossover). Eh. It’d be awesome if they took the basic 2-door Wrangler, made it a little smaller, and made it as retro as possible.

[@markkelly3300]

Personally I’m not interested in a n EV but being a startup I don’t think it’s a bad idea to focus on electric. Then the mandates by the government? Yay, don’t appreciate being told what to buy and these people need to be out of office.

[@AdventureBraten01]

Why full ev? I mean I see following California but in my state chargers are so scarce it’s not even possible for a road trip

[@richardclark5187]

How about a 6 Cylinder, with a 5 Speed Manual Transmission ?? You know, the kind of Vehicle, a True Off-road Enthusiast, would really Love to have !!!

[@terrymcginnis5206]

Bubble popped at 38 seconds. 😢

[@chuckschilling9113]

I own a 66 Travelall which I acquired from the original owner many decades ago...beautiful styling and glass.

[@redacted2763]

I was excited until I heard "an all electric Scout".

[@PghGameFix]

Was excited about it.... but I'm kind of guessing it won't ever get built since USA really doesn't want EV's. If they put a gas or diesel engine in it, and make it compete with the Wrangler.... then they will have a product that USA buyers will actually want.

[@angeloplanes8497]

Is the wrangler 4xe still the best selling phev after all of the price hikes? There seems to be a market for 4wd turbo 4 cylinder hybrid and they plan to ignore it.

[@legostud]

By the time they actually produce a Scout vehicle, BEVs will have reduced in cost and increased in range. Better to aim for the future, then to be obsolete right out the door.

[@mattbrew11]

@@legostudnga do you realize how aerodynamicly inefficient that design is? These vehicles will NOT have 300 miles of range

[@NickTarterOKC]

My interest in an off-road EV is basically nill. Give us a decently fuel efficient ICE off-road vehicle and I would be interested. Styling is okay though.

[@Datastacked]

I think EV's are great commuter, ridshare, short range fleet vehicles, even potentially a farm rig. Offroading/adventure/towing EV's seem to push the capability of that powertrain. I like Toyotas philosophy of using hybrids to increase engine longitivity, mpg, and torque. Is there market research on what customers use Rivians, hummer EV's, and other offroad EV's for?

[@Offensivebeast]

I haven’t seen any data stating what the EVs like the Rivian, HummerEV, Lightning etc are used for, but from what I’ve seen from owners they seem to be the same pool of people who buy premium/ luxury SUVs, so you get a lot of them just being used as commuters/ family haulers/ tax incentives with a niche amount using them for off roading and towing, but in the case of these EVs, there’s a lot of negative experiences when it comes to the towing and off roading, but those same people seem to be very happy to use them as a normal a to b car.

[@Offensivebeast]

@@jimjones-pz1tt a lot of EV owners charge their vehicles at night when their asleep.

[@sunbeam8866]

@@Offensivebeast Until they take a trip!

[@nirfz]

May i ask how you come to the conclusin that hybrids increase engine longevity? Given i only drive 1 hybrid to this day, but it is less than a year old. (A Skoda Octavia PHEV) But i can't see it increasing engine longevity, rather the opposite: It always wants to start in EV mode unless you press a button to make it go into hybrid mode. So by default, it empties the battery complete and then from 0 to anywhere between 1500 and 6000 rpm (depending on the speed and situation you are driving in) snaps in the ice engine. The ICe engine has no preheating or anything, it starts cold and gets kicked in at high rpms when more power is demanded than the battery can provide or the battery is empty. Doing high rpms with a cold ice engine is not what i learned as prolonging engine life. Also constant starts and stops of an ice engine (like a hybrid does) also ins't good for engine life. To me the only engine prolonging way would be like Opel did with the Ampera (no idea how that model chevy was named in the US) or BMW's i3 with the range extender do: there the ice engine isn't constantly started and stopped and kicked in from 0 and cold. They run the engine to produce electricity. So the ice engine runs at it's most efficient rpms and basically like a static motor. No changes in load, no 10-20 cold starts per trip...

[@Datastacked]

​@@nirfz, Hmm I'm not familiar with that brand, my experience is with a traditional hybrid AWD Toyota and the ice engine is always running the moment you start the car. Toyota uses both engines to power the drivetrain, the hybrid assists and puts less strain on the engine. Plus you never have to charge a traditional hybrid battery because it's using your engine to stay charged .If I understand it correctly you're PHEV doesn't start the engine until you go pedal down?

[@mountainman971]

Just because I don't see it in the comments. As I understand it, the tractor side of International Harvester went to Case IH. And they came out with a more true to form Scout of their own as a UTV. Which is basically what the Scout 80 was, a street legal UTV.

[@anthonymrskipt9252]

I’m actually pro EV, but I’m not sure this is a good choice for a pure EV. A PHEV would seem to make much more sense. My Tesla is great for what it does, but I like that my Wrangler 4xe doesn’t actually create a problem if there’s no obvious place to charge. I also really like running under electric off-road, so an electric off-roader is actually appealing to me. However, we are about to drive to Yellowstone tomorrow and we’re taking the Jeep because I’m not confident that the Tesla would like being left unplugged for days up there and the charging options start to get scarce up that way. For an adventure rig, right now, we just don’t have enough viable charging options. The issue is not the electric drivetrain (in my opinion). The worst charging network was created by VW, so maybe they’ll fix that part of the equation if they ever want to be able to sell these here in the US.

[@tro_b0t]

It surprised me how truly mechanically simple my International 1100 was, the hardest part of restoration has been cosmetic! Making an EV, I doubt that'll stay the same..

[@larshamilton40]

i had a '73 International Travelall (exactly like the middle pic @ 4:50) thing was a beast !

[@lib556]

I was excited until the mid-point of the video when the electric only bomb was dropped... Personally the niche that needs to be filled is a simple, no frills utilitarian vehicle for a reasonable price which is impossible to find these days. I saw another video about the new stripped down, inexpensive Toyota Hilux. People want these vehicles as opposed to luxury SUVs that cost an arm and a leg. That's what I was hoping for the Scout. EV only? Uggh.

[@tal0ndarktalon637]

An all electric off roader, is an issue. Don’t get me wrong, 99% of these will be pavement princesses anyway, so what does it matter? Yeah, probably correct, for the most part. However, I’d want a true off roader, and at this time, EVs really don’t work for overlanding. You can have some fun, at an off road park, but they just done work, as an overland vehicle, unless you want to bring a generator. So, why not bring the generator along, as a hybrid. Diesel electric would be perfect, but after dieselgate, VW isn’t going there, so gas electric would be perfect for these. I’m still happy to see the scout return, and all EV is fine for most, it just wouldn’t work for me.

[@josebisquerra8269]

At this point the the "man" from Scout Motors on EV's is off. Sales of EV's have cooled off substantially. Actually, one thing keeping EV's alive at this point is the subsidies. Without those the sales of EV's would be worse.

[@americanrambler4972]

Is the scout going to look and feel somewhat like a historical Scout, or is it going to be a Rivian clone? Is this going to be just another thick skate board battery chassis with a current generic body plopped on top of it or is it going to be something really special?

[@MineGames131]

I hope that it has similar Retrofuturistic design to the new Bronco. Heck the bronco already has rounded Scout wheel openings.

[@Luv_2_Watch]

Based upon the two sketches Scout Motors released two years ago, it is not going to be very heritage looking - more crossover and short (height) looking. They showed the two sketches in this video. No way will it be available in two years anyway.

[@Cloud30000]

Looking forward to a bunch of used 2-year old Scout lease returns being sold for 70% off

[@Joemama_515]

If only they were gonna build a hybrid 😩😩 EV won’t work for me, I drive 500+ miles on one go sometimes

[@petervandoren2984]

I remember my dad saying he almost bought an IH Travelall, but decided on the Jeep Wagoneer after hearing that IH was on their way out. He bought a 1983 Jeep Wagoneer with Quadratrac. which was a fully automatic four-wheel drive system. You could really feel it when the front wheels kicked in and started driving, though it didn't generally do so unless we had a good snow or were driving it in the fields.

[@rodeowerewolf3004]

all electric...i'm out

[@waynegardella6263]

Change is oh so difficult for some folks, aye?

[@bradh7472]

I had a 62 half cab and I had a 78 Terra Scout. They were very interesting, very simple trucks. Funny to think, they used medium size truck engines in the Scout so they were very heavy on the front. The 304 and 345 ci engines were used in the IH dump trucks as well. The 392 was put in the pickups and Travelall (suburban size SUV). very durable industrial engines and probably to much for the Scout really. My uncle worked at IH Fort Wayne when he graduated engineering school. He worked on all that and then transitioned over the the heavy truck side.

[@helloworld8136]

12:12 is the real reason why its electric

[@billw6182]

Bringing the scout back would be great if it had solid axles front and back , and a modern efficient ICE which new computer controlled fuel injected ICE's are now , very efficient and very low emmissions . The many problems with electric vehicles (as the tech stands now) , such as range, range off road (running out of battery in the bush, can't plug into a tree and solar is a no go, again how battery tech stands now) and range during cold weather , infrastructure , pollution created from mining the raw materials, to make the batteries as well as generating the power to charge the millions of electric vehicles that potentially will be out there in the future , battery disposal and cost, not to mention the human cost of the horrific exploitation of cheap labour (child labour) to mine the materials off shore. No , it all sounds good but the tech isn't there yet , not by a long way , they keep pushing these electric vehicles and in some instances they are a good fit i.e.. running around town , then go home and plug it in , but then if everyone had one the grid would crash . And how about the battery fires that produce it's own oxygen and are very, very difficult to extinguish without the correct fire fighting gear.... Just to name a few. For an off road vehicle or heavy hauler or long distance on and off road tourer , as the technology stands now it is a no go. The powers that be are trying ram this down peoples throats before the tech is there or the grid-infrastructure. Should they keep working on alternate forms of power yes of course hydrogen is a good one , but as of this writing it just isn't there yet for electric. As I said ICE are very efficient and low, low emitters of pollution and they are getting better and better all the time . This is what engineers should be concentrating on , making the ICE as efficient as possible and continue to evolve it. Cheers Wild Bill Jeep overloading the remotest parts of northern Canada .

[@sonofagun1037]

I don't know if a european brand can properly pay homage to the Scouts. I am worried that it'll just be another luxury "off-road" crossover like the new defenders and not a mid size truck SUV like the wranglers and broncos. Europe doesn't really do trucks, even VW's Amarok is just a reskin of the ranger. I don't want another glammed up 80k midsize crossover that went for road feel over genuine off-road capability. Take a look at what they are doing to jeep, every vehicle outside of the wrangler is just some uber luxury vehicle which doesn't fit with Jeep's heritage. From a literal utility vehicle made for war, to a farm vehicle, to an enthusiast off roader. Even the "Luxury" jeeps of the past like the original grand wagoneer were more on par with mid level luxury like an olds or a plymouth and not this mercedes fighter they are making now. It would be cool if they could get it right

[@WC_Beer_Reviews]

Should have went with a turbo 4 cylinder. They make as much or more horsepower of classic scout v-8s with double the economy. A turbo diesel would be another good option. And make it a stripped down spartan chariot, with no unnecessary bells and whistles. And a manual transmission for goodness sake!

[@waynegardella6263]

My huntch is that they will offer those options at some point in the future.

[@stephenbrown3760]

Too bad navistar (who designed the original powerstroke 7.3) couldn’t put a smaller modern diesel in there, or a TDI

[@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj]

2.8 cummins

[@tenpoundburrito]

I'm personally really bummed. When I heard Volkswagen had bought it, I was like "That's great! A 4- or 6-Cylinder turbodiesel off-roader will be great! Maybe it'll be like a more street-legal version of those Mahindra Roxors with the Peugeot turbodiesels". Now that I know it's electric, I've lost all interest.

[@byhsu6140]

So this new Scout will be really just for people who don't really go long distances and who have off road access close to where they live?

[@sunbeam8866]

....and don't go off-road more than 50 miles from the charging-station!

[@nirfz]

Maybe they include a pack of folding solar panels that can charge the battery up 10% in a week of sunshine, so you could even reach a charging station after a month or so. It could be ideal for alpine refuges though. (the small buildings in the alps where hikers can stay over night) They people running them usually go down into the valley once a week to get supplies and then back up. (Usually around 20-30km one way) and they could charge it fully in the valley while loading up all the groceries. This way they make it up back up the moutain. And down again a week later, they recharge enough to make the few kms on the flat. (as i would expect it to loose charge like all EV's while standing around trying to "phone home" and stuff) But i doubt they will buy that, those guys usually use pretty old things with no modern tech in them that they could get rather cheap and run relatively cheap. (Like small old offroad trucks from the 70's and early 80's. Even old "surplus" military G-wagons from the 80's that got auctioned off for low money)

[@dennislesh2374]

I owned two Scouts and a pickup in the early 70's.........looking forward to see what they come out with.

[@gpilsitz1783]

I would really like to see a pickup make a comeback. Do you remember the truck in the movie "Tremors?" The hero truck was awesome!

[@jimgriffin464]

And if i live in an apartment just where do I plug it in , ?????? No garage ? no scout plug in .

[@mediocreman2]

I'm sure the demographics they're shooting for have two homes and 5 other cars.

[@sunbeam8866]

Well then, you just can't have one. If the tree-huggers get their way, you, and your fellow apartment dwellers, will be taking the bus, or walking!

[@waynegardella6263]

I live in Southern Florida where we have probably the highest percentage of EVs of any area in the country. The issue of apartments and condos is real. Now, most condos are starting to add "in the fence" charging stations as their owners are demanding them. Now, the older apartments around here, not so much. I own an EV but can charge it at home. If I had to go to a charging station and pay for electricity I would clearly be out of my mind. EVs just do not make any economic sense at all if you can't charge them at home.

[@christinajacobs3189]

sorry guys moving on. 1. electric 2. an AG/GmbH is never 'hands off' 3. can't even get the reboot of the type-2 right. ... though i will be hunting for a legit travel-all now.

[@B86432]

looks like the bronco, 85% of society doesnt want an EV ever lol

[@matthewgaines10]

Another classic misread of the U.S. market by the Volkswagen Group. Not a lot of chargers off road.

[@FriendlieGhost]

They are making a mistake not taking stuff from VW like a drive train from Porsche, etc. This is gonna be a miss.

[@thepontiacshop3765]

Agreed. These guys aren’t going to go far with this business model

[@paulcook1657]

I think a hybrid platform is the future. The pure EV platform still has a lot of improvements before it is truly accepted.

[@waynegardella6263]

Technology grows in time, it is never a light switch. Just think back to when your grandparents watched a KZbin videos on the whole new concept of a CAR? I am sure they thought Henry Ford was a total madman, aye? They then took out their cell phones and called their friends who were vacationing in Costa Rica and mentioned who crazy that man was.

[@kingpin3919]

Good luck to the company

[@TimeMariner]

It'll tank.

[@michaeldytrych]

Does potential Scout's buyers want actually the electric Scouts? I don't think so!

[@JogBird]

ohhh its Scout and not the much rumoured Toyota Stout

[@DaleWilly]

rumored****

[@dinsdaleseven1627]

I drove a red and white scout just like the one in this video over Black Bear Pass in 1978 when I was 15 years old. It was my grandfather's Scout.

[@RodVonLongrod]

They should go with a hybrid engine to start.

[@waynegardella6263]

VW has a solid line of ICE and hybrids that they could add if the EV market does not endorse their product.

[@AdamHillikerLikesRobots]

As a new 2dr bronco owner, what I really want is basically a 2dr bronco with ev power train. Small, simple, big tires, detachable body, go anywhere, be in nature. That would be perfect. I don't want a big ass hummer sized thing for off roading. Maybe I'll be happy if Ford just electrified the bronco but I do love the scout as well

[@Mlooong]

International makes ambulances too, to this day

[@texandy89]

International makes big rigs as well

[@opencurtin]

I remember reading Elvis bought a ranch outside Memphis in the 1960s and he purchased a load of Scouts for all his staff to drive around the grounds of the Ranch you can still see one at the Gracelands tour.

[@americanrambler4972]

I hate the snobby word “bespoke” it’s one of the snootiest sounding words around. Why not just use the proper historical word “custom”?

[@RChyshkevych]

Because bespoke now means something that is made from scratch to specification whereas custom means taking something that already exists and modifying it

[@americanrambler4972]

@@RChyshkevych Thanks for providing the distinction between the two.

[@mitchstein288]

This is really surprising actually. Here I was thinking that VW would just use the name as a rebadged VW and have it be a soft roader. I was not expecting VW to give Scout so much freedom on this project. I especially love how they're really trying to stay true to the heritage. Consulting with the enthusiast groups is a great move. I was not expecting this. I'm excited to see what they have offer.