Why Do F1 Tracks Have Kerbs?

[@WTF1official]

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[@SHZ_Tristan19]

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[@HerkusisntabotYT132]

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[@stopklock9591]

IM NOT A FANBOY IM JUST PASSIONATE

[@fiy9162]

it so weird to see most of videos from this channel got more than a million views but still have less than a million subscribers.

[@sayakchakraborty4206]

The sound of the tyres riding on the kerbs is one of the most beautiful and satisfying sounds in F1.

[@flywithaziz]

F1 car go BZZZZZ

[@chadchadison2591]

Every motorsports

[@ginginho9967]

You can heat the sound of it just thinking about it

[@johnm5092]

Haha kerbs go BRRRRRRRR

[@charlesbair2527]

@@flywithaziz more like brrrrrrrrr

[@erikr968]

Sorry, but the video failed to discuss WHY curbs are used (as the title suggests). The main reason why curbs were used in the first place was to prevent dirt and gravel from being dragged onto the track when drivers cut the track (which they will do, regardles of if a curb is there or not). As track limits are often tarmac these days, they are often not needed for their original purpose and instead function as a (mostly unsuccessful) deterrant from cutting the track.

[@Shiva_Codes]

He has more focus on inserting more memes in the video than caring about the quality of the video

[@Petrol_head44]

Thanks for the comment it gave me more information than the whole video..🤙🏻

[@erikwestrheim804]

Nice time saving comment right here. Thanks.

[@elisha2358]

Your comment is true, but he sort of does mention this 2:33

[@Mercman1010]

How about protecting the edge of the ashpalt from being dug up and damaged as the corners are cut. Just think of how bad that hole one the inside of the follow through got on Top Hear

[@tharushsomashekar]

POV : you know the bloody answer but still watching it for literally no particular reason

[@WTF1official]

You're watching it to be entertained... are you not entertained????? :')

[@tharushsomashekar]

@@WTF1official yeah... Of course I am... Why else would I be here

[@lucwijngaard8413]

I'm really entertained as always

[@cpgautam172]

@@WTF1official I have more questions than I entered the video with now!

[@josue24]

Weird use of the phrase point of view

[@louisbaleston2814]

In the safety aspect, you should’ve mentioned that kerbs also make a distinguishable noise, so drivers know when they are at the edge of the track. It’s a useful auditive guide

[@eruiluuvatar]

especially useful for blind drivers

[@harshlahoti8368]

@@eruiluuvatar So Mazepin?

[@eruiluuvatar]

@@harshlahoti8368 kerbs have no use for Mazespin. He spins before reaching the first one.

[@le-coup-détat]

@@eruiluuvatar Mazespin isn’t THAT bad. Sometimes he manages to get a penalty before blowing his dad’s money on car repairs!

[@Thiago100Zwetsch]

@@eruiluuvatar I've never ever seen a blind driver gets to F1. They really should allow them on a team 😂😂😂😂

[@lePierre1860]

3:22 having those hitmarker sounds throughout the race would be hilarious

[@kaustavkapur5532]

sounds like minecraft

[@tomaspetro4966]

Imagine 20 F1 cars passing beside you through the corner and all you hear is just hitmarkers

[@HDSpectrums]

@@kaustavkapur5532 bro what

[@PiPArtemis]

"Your kerbs cost us $250,000! Remove them!" "Maybe stay on the track instead?"

[@grommile]

Well, yes, if any other team principal had complained about the kerbs at the Red Bull Ring, that might have been the answer. Christian Horner, of course, is team principal for Red Bull Racing :)

[@fintonmainz7845]

Or get a billionsres son to drive...

[@evann5451]

And if they lose control of the car and go off track?

[@davidkasparek1621]

@@evann5451 then you get boring circuits like Paul Ricard, for going off track you should be punished

[@andyowens5494]

@@evann5451 If a driver "looses control" and goes off track, its either because they ran out of talent, or got punted; either way, the kerb damage is unlikely to be the issue (the broken suspension that got them there, or the tyre wall impact is likely more significant). I'd agree with you for sausage kerbs, because an error (even by someone else) can put a driver in danger.

[@_Zekken]

When I did my first track day, I touched a few Kerbs just like I'd always seen racing drivers do and as I'd normally do in racing games. The difference in grip levels for those split seconds was insane, it was like being on ice. I very quickly decided to stay off them for the rest of the day lol.

[@jamescrook2077]

I was just rewatching the Le Mans video

[@SenseiFamilyJedi]

Still learning about kerburbs 🤣 Grew up watching racing a bit here and there but....... Just got into f1 this season because of the engineering marvels behind the cars and fell in love with the teams and drivers! Definitely here to stay as a growing fan of the sport!

[@n111254789]

As an American I always figured it was a compromise to enforce track limits. Little more effective than painted lines, little less effective than landmines. Just something, somewhere in the middle of those two alternatives.

[@SolidSonicTH]

Which is also what ultimately led to sausage curbs (an increasing demand to set firm track limits), which is a terrible solution to a minor issue.

[@AUBravo15]

Kerbs vs Curbs is exactly like Tyres vs Tires. Until F1, I’ve never seen it spelled Tyres or Kerbs.

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Yep... Ever since the crown lost to a bunch of angry farmers across the Atlantic, they have had spelling problems! A bonnet goes on your head, boots go on your feet, and gas is a liquid that powers your car. Silly brits!

[@harrison9691]

@@brandonhoffman4712 you speak English so therefore the way it's said in England is correct

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@@harrison9691 you must be the squarest person ive met on the net. The 4th grade called, they want their style back...

[@brandonhoffman4712]

@@harrison9691 P.S. if you do fancy yourself correct then your last name is spelt wrong as it should be grey not gray.

[@sameerdodger]

@@brandonhoffman4712 how tf can 'gas' be a liquid..

[@louiseugeniojr.3530]

I always wondered why the courses had those curbs to begin with.

[@McPlayer8t]

I always thought the kerbs were there to stop the tyres digging up the grass on the edge of the circuit if a driver ran wide, but that’s just a guess.

[@wotwott2319]

tires touching the grass or gravel if it runs wide is a big no no most of the time because it upsets the balance of the car enough to cause major accidents in the grass' case, and produce clouds of smoke that blocks vision for other drivers in the gravel's case. Originally Kerbs were intended to be strict track limit warning tools as they were built with a very steep angle with the intention to bounce drivers off of the sides of the tracks if they touch it, but it has since been replaced with flatter kerbs as the cliff kerbs back then ironically became one of the major causes of roll over accidents.

[@hectornon3847]

Can you do why f1 cars have steering wheels ?¿

[@WTF1official]

Great idea

[@metro3313]

Quite obvious, without a steering wheel an F1 can't take off or land.

[@mrragge7986]

To steer

[@matth8292]

@@WTF1official can you create a video why do F1 cars use traction control and why traction control have to be switched off.

[@jounaas]

Ask kimi

[@NickMissiaen]

The person that makes these animations is doing his job very well. Animation takes a lot of time! Hat of to you sir

[@Christoph5782]

I’ve always just assumed that racetracks have kerbs, but your local neighborhood has curbs

[@PeterJPickles]

Explain Kerby ;)

[@McPlayer8t]

Nope, Americans have curbs, Australians and Brits have kerbs.

[@lexuslfa4739]

@@McPlayer8t pavement?

[@McPlayer8t]

The kerb/curb is the step down from the pavement/footpath/sidewalk to the road.

[@johnrodrigues2018]

Kerb is british for curb. They're both the same thing. We just spell it curb.

[@ZIGAG1999]

"Why do F1 tracks have kerbs?" idk why do MOST tracks have kerbs.

[@tvjablko]

Thank you Czech Republic is finally made it to a f1 video! 😃

[@lukipalec6779]

(:

[@jounaas]

Tšekkoslovakia

[@tondys2642]

Konečně slavní xd

[@zeplyr]

If 0:08 is accurate, your evenings are defenitely hotter than mine

[@lejohnd2430]

They’re both boys

[@nicholassalapoutis2829]

you also have to Remember that most f1 tracks are also used for gt cup racing, Nasscar, Indy, and moto Gp so the kerbs need to be suited for all of the different types of races

[@brandonhoffman4712]

It's not like they could be moved or anything... Also seeing that f1 car perched in a fence doesn't seem to suit F1, which is one of the types of races held at these tracks.

[@drchtct]

High and wide kerbs like in Spa are wonderful. Such a nice flow going from one to the next. However, in Singapore and Baku are normal kerbs that are almost like sausage kerbs and they are awful for a nice flow. You touch them, you lose control, flow is gone. Sausage kerbs should only be in run off areas, not directly at apexes

[@brandonhoffman4712]

I just had sausage before watching this. I'm rooting we all keep the sausage in our bellies!

[@beefymcskillet5601]

In NASCAR the raised curbs are called “Turtles”

[@AudreyH48]

The huge curbs take away from some exciting racing so I agree getting rid of the sausage curbs is a good idea. I'd rather see a bit of grass or gravel right after the track limit curbs and if a driver were to push to hard, it's up to them to save it. btw, in America at least the overlords of windows 10 have decreed that "curbs" is correct for us, "kerbs" gives me that annoying red misspelled bar under it haha.

[@DANLi_]

KERB - UK spelling, and often the spelling used for racing track Kerbs CURB - US spelling, I often hear it referred to the side of a road : )

[@filip_reznicek]

Hello from Czechia & you are welcome :P

[@thehastywombat]

I'm with you on the bigger kerbs that have more of an impact on making the drivers slow or stay away.

[@kabirbhatia4038]

Love your content

[@WTF1official]

Love you too

[@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm]

All nice and dandy about the video, but... I can't now unsee the scene of Matty chilling by the fireplace while Tommy delicately caresses his hair... BEST LAP TIME just got a new meaning for me ^^'

[@miau31333]

I love watching ur videos at 2 am beacuse volume at 1 isnt too loud but I can still hear you clearly

[@TheMovingBricks]

The Editing is Amazing!!

[@jordany7018]

I think “new” tracks stay away from raised kerbs so they can easily switch between 2 and 4 wheel sessions with minimal cost

[@RabbitHead09]

I agree with you about wanting more raised curbs compared to the flat ones.

[@skuddingomcwinters6119]

As an American, KERB is the most hilarious spelling of CURB in the world to me. When I was younger and was just getting into racing and international spelling of English words, the first time I saw “kerb” I literally thought that “kerbs” were some special kind of more refined road border that I could never understand. Turns out it’s just manipulation of the same letters I’m familiar with, in way I am unfamiliar with and completely valid as my own. I don’t understand “kerb” at all, but that’s okay, because as I kid I still had to mow the grass up to the “curb” regardless of whether you want to call in a “lawn” or a “garden”

[@seewod9073]

They are also useful for the driver to feel the limit of the track without having to look at it and being able to look further to the next corner

[@brandonhoffman4712]

Then suddenly, they get smacked by the sausage!

[@Sebidkk]

I like the German version of the word. "Randstein" sounds like my favorit German band ;)

[@kshitijkawadiya5739]

Rammstein!

[@waggerps8776]

There is a Rammstein cover band called Randstein in my area

[@jtmmmm27]

Crazy YT, I was literally playing Grand Turismo 4 on my PS2 about an hour ago and thought this to myself and this gets suggested. I didn’t say anything out loud or have my PS2 hooked up to any internet.

[@Iltigo123]

Love the Czech joke... made me LOL hard!! Keep it up

[@matth8292]

@WTF1, can you create a video about why we use traction control and why we switch them off. Mazepin needs to watch this.

[@SolidSonicTH]

I like the curbs in the Las Vegas GP (they have roulette numbers on them).

[@frozenburrito9313]

The sound of turn 9 and 10 kurbs of RB ring is the best. BRRRRRR

[@anowysz6]

i think it would be good if at least in some places, there wasn't always an exit kerb to kind of smooth out the transition between the fastest line and being slow in the grass/gravel. if it's just the edge of the pavement and then grass, we'd be able to see the drivers carry speed right up to the last inch of road. it would be like a less exciting version of seeing cars having to go inches from the walls on street tracks

[@matth8292]

Max when he is looking at the rules for track limits at Turn 4 when it changed for the race: *my time has come to beat Lewis and got to give the position back to Lewis and angry Dutch noises* FIA: The MaFIA Master🅱️lan is successful

[@koolguy3]

point of clarification...apex kerb =/= entry kerb. Entry kerbs are situated on the outside entry to some corners similar to the location of exit kerbs, and drivers will tend to specifically use them to slow down more quickly, and to unsettle the car for turn in. Apex kerbs are what the video tried to refer to as entry kerbs. See turn 1, Circuit of the Americas for an example of an actual entry kerb.

[@sot1susy-amogus]

For me its"curb"

[@hairohukosu433]

"Curb" as in "Curb your track extensions"

[@ayushpatel2402]

Loved the video yet again. Just wanted to ask wasn't Peroni's crash because of a loose gutter or something not a sausage kerb?

[@Chrisovideos]

You can drive the Montreal Circuit since it is used as a road most of the time to access the Casino. Of course you 'll want to run you tires over the curbs to get the F1 feel.... Driving over them at any speed in a regular car makes you feel like you are going to rip off your suspension, and these are the lowest white and red ones. Amazing that F1 cars glide right over them like they do.

[@rubenide147]

1:52 in the middle is that Aiden from MrAIdenRule lol

[@michaelpeters794]

Lots of kudos to the post-production team for this video; the animations were helluva funny!

[@thezone5592]

Legends have it that if you are early enough you get a like from the content creator

[@EW1R]

lol didn't work

[@thezone5592]

@@EW1R 😩

[@EW1R]

@@thezone5592 :(

[@MartinJakobs]

I think technology by now should be able to allow the following: If a driver a) leaves the track (i.e. tarmac) with all four wheels of if b) one or two wheels touch an area beyond a kerb, an electronic signal should be activated that does cut the electric power of the MGU-K and MGU-H for a limited amount of time (say a second), and if one car breaks the track limits say 3 times during qualifying or a race the time exponentially increases to 3 or 5 secs or disables electric power for a whole lap. I Mean i'd still prefer gravel pits since it does force the driver to actually find the fastest line ON TRACK, but I acknowledge that gravel traps may even impose a safety risk for certain situations or ar impossible to have at street circuits.

[@AllisonMarlyn]

Thank you for making this video! Just got into F1 in the past few months and I’ve had a difficult time finding a good answer to this question

[@philreyes6555]

There are many videos similar to this on this channel. You can check them out; They have a lot of the information you would want to know about

[@Wizzkidwas]

1:52 I see that Mr. Aiden F1 cameo

[@surtrgaming1730]

I don't mind small kerbs, when the track can punish track limit issues on their own. For example, if a driver goes beyond the kerb in Monaco, he's probably hitting a wall. But, after watching Bahrain, I feel the Kerbs should be higher as to punish drivers who would want to ignore the intended track limits

[@jonclark25]

Side note is they can sometimes also be used to pull you into a corner better/help rotation.

[@SolidKnight64]

What if some kerbs were banked just slightly, but still maintained a large enough run off area? This would make a hill, meaning those who "fall off track" not only have to drive uphill (adding more tenths lost) to rejoin the race but may risk scraping and bumping the bottom of their cars? This would be a high risk corner in terms of difficulty and perhaps unnecessary complexity, but with enough safety measures, artificial "sand turf" (designed not break engine/car parts), and Nascar walls like in COTA. It could be a new level or just called F1 rallying 🤣

[@Drew262]

The kerbs at Silverstone are black and white. This is (apparently) a cost saving measure. When cars go over them, the white parts only need repainting. Other places that have red and white have to paint the red AND white after cars have been over them.

[@elliottbeetz6753]

Wow I’m just somehow finding this channel and it’s amazing. So subscribed

[@ChadOHara98]

It is "curb" in USA. For motorcycle racing I often see curbs used in European circuits as part of the racing line. I've done some motorcycle racing here CA, and most often, you do not want to use the curbs. In americica, or at least in California, the curbs are there for safety only.

[@forzaferrari9709]

For me kerb is more of a target just like in a firing range (for apex and exit point) whenever i drive race sim, without a kerb it's kinda awkward to drive.

[@m1co294]

On some cars, the outside kerbs act as braking point markers for me

[@101jir]

Curbs are like boundaries: you start off with a soft one and if it keeps getting violated or goes too far you have hard ones. In a manner of speaking, they literally are boundaries, albeit in a somewhat different context than the social sense. Flat curbs are the "that wasn't really that funny, but let's continue." Hotdog curbs are the storming out of the room. Or perhaps "this drive is over."

[@kuba324x2]

I was trying to find out why do RX cars have Nets on Windows and got info about kerbs instead. Nice video anyway

[@AmirPomen]

In current season, motogp races have implimented electronic track limit excursion detection... Much safer, less human eye and camera angle error... Exceeding limit is exceeding not "maybe" I can see this also can be used in 4wheel racing probably in near future? Maybe?

[@joaoie]

Coming from Karting, I'm 100% for raised kerbs. For raised kerb you have the risk vs reward. You need to decide if it will save you time, the margin of error before it upsets the car, and how it might affect your tires. Flat kerb needs no decision making. Use it.

[@conqrd1238]

I subbed after u asked me too cause the way you did was just funny as hell, but when put the hitmarkers in when touched the kerbs i activated the bell 😂

[@aswandanawawan]

Aaah that sausage kerbs, or should i say, Verstopper

[@be6378]

when I started watching F1 as 4 y/o, I thought that the drivers will get a better highscore when drive longer over the Kerbs..

[@_fiftyseven_]

Eyo, underrated comment!🤣

[@Laurens_en_Daire]

I think they should install (literal) mines beyond the kerbs and then place an electrically charged 'speed boost line' you can only utilize if you stay within the stricter interpretation of the track limits. Some would call it 'fake' and video-gamey (looking at you forumula E) but hey, it would encourage cleaner interpretation of the racing line.

[@mikulec9944]

3:24 I'm from Czech republic

[@Ethan.YT.]

Silverstone 2022 will (hopefully) be my first time watching a race at the GP

[@jonathanolsgaard599]

I like the idea of the washboard kurbs, because it incentivizes the driver to STAY WHERE THEY SHOULD, if the sausage kurb is to be removed.

[@HardwareHaven-124]

for short to follow the kerbs on corners cause you will go flying in the barrier if they don’t have the apex/curbs

[@vernonbear]

That sausage kerb at the Bus Stop at Spa-Francochamps, what a beautiful addition that was, helping F1 cars to FLY 😀 Kerbs themselves aren’t the issue are they? It’s the fluid approach to track limits that’s the problem, the drivers aren’t being given concise and clear instructions or having those instructions backed up by the stewards during FP, Quali and then the race. They stretch the track out as far as they can and see if they get caught, if they don’t then the drivers who are adhering the track limits as laid out are being penalised for sticking to the rules. Time for race stewards to hand out time penalties earlier in the weekend and force the drivers to drive the track as it is designed to be used.

[@bono-js5ne]

curbs are ment to be ridden on in series like nascar and v8 supercars bc 1 it looks more fun and 2 simply because it kinda helps them more in a way

[@yutakahano]

I usually do not subscribe to the channel when they advertise that...but your approach was simply awesome! Soo funny! Ahh..nice content btw. Thanks! Love u too 😂😂😂😂😂

[@advaittilak614]

In MotoGP its simple : Any kerb you use other than the ones that are for example red and white (here) should mean a track limits warning.

[@Evning]

I feel that there needed to be special dishonourable mention of the tortoises that used to live on turn 10 of the singapore street circuit. Those things looked to be higher than the ground clearance of the cars. What were they thinking.

[@linkscarlet9094]

I almost think it would be worth having a slight drop of a few inches at most with standing water outside of the flat curve. Nothing that would cause a car to crash or deap enough to drown in in the case of a roll, but enough to eliminate traction and force a tire (tyre :p) change. Great because during practice, said tires are not damaged.

[@juanacosta47]

Sausage kerbs started to appear after the standardization of asphalted run-off areas, in order to increase the penalty of making a mistake. Make gravel traps the norm again and see how no special kerbs will be needed.

[@m1co294]

Oh sausage kerbs are punishing alright, they can make cars fly.

[@phillwainewright4221]

It's Kerb. Curb means something quite different. Kerb - noun - a stone edging to a pavement or raised path. Curb - verb - putting a check or restraint on something.

[@Glowhyena]

2:44 - The meme is clear for me to understand the purpose of kerbs

[@maxmorris7216]

If I remember correct, its so when someone tries to overtake on the kerbing they have to go off the power or they risk crashing again, into another force india car, and the driver has to expect the limits of the car

[@reecejarman3722]

Aren't inside apex kerbs used in weight transfer to the outside wheel to help more aggressive turn in??

[@Necrobin]

I accidentally started watching at 0.75 speed and it was even funnier to watch, I thought the talking speed was intentional.

[@christophvonwaldhuf]

Best kerbs are the ones you forgot. The best are flat ones with abressive coating it’s basically like sand paper. It’s not much slower but your tires get rubbed off much quicker. Therefore drivers will avoid it.

[@kaustavkapur5532]

who expected matt to have at least a couple million subscribers by now. He has a really nice channel

[@vannustube]

wasn't there a Silverstone race where drivers were pushing so hard they'd come off the track, not gain an advantage, but still be able to come back & challenge for position at next corner? maybe one with Button in it? I remember thinking that's how F1 should be - dogfighting over a sequence of corners.

[@pyetrosouza8364]

F1: ad kerbs "the pilots finaly will stop running out the track Drivers : "more room"

[@markpellman4941]

Proper track layers: tarmac -> traditional non-sausage kerb -> grass (or wall)

[@dylanporter8105]

I've always wondered are the kerbs in monaco left red and white because no one wants to repaint them or have they always been red and white over there?

[@mal0ko]

Just bring back gravel traps, no more ultra wide wide runoffs. or make the limit beside the track gravel, and then after maybe 10 meter width of gravel, nearer the wall, would be asphalt again where tires will grip, to prevent a high speed crash in the wall. And the gravel is there to prevent the car from being able to go back in the track again.

[@maxgoesracing]

Entry kerbs, you know, the kerbs on the entry to a corner that can be used to widen your entry. Not like the apex kerbs that are in the apex of a corner.

[@AnyaKittyMeow]

bring back 90's curbs

[@_kijetesantakalu]

Don't forget that the sausage kerbs almost killed Sophia Floersch in Macau as well

[@Jakub_Grubka]

Well... Question is easy right? But answer is hard but also in the same time it's easy to tell "Why do race tracks have Kerbs". That's why I watched this video (don't mind me wrong, I'm watching all of WTF1 videos) (sorry for my English if anything is wrong)

[@DaniMacYo]

Kers? No Curbs! Kers? No Curb oh the kurbing!

[@Ranger5355]

I support the idea of tracks that limit how far a driver can push the boundary. I don't buy the argument that it shouldn't be possible to cause damage if you exceed the track limit. The drivers can deal with Monaco or Singapore without feeling unfairly put upon.

[@AmitDebnath09]

I like low profile kerbs that need to be attacked hard, with grass/gravel just outside the kerb limit so that there is a clear and distinct limit to the track.

[@MrKelenek]

How about a progressive Kerb, that raises more and more the farther you go from tarmac, either linearly or exponentially... that way, a little wheel on it is fine but go too far and it gets way too high to be usefull (within reason ofc)

[@edkarter7062]

I drove 2 diffent road cars on the track in Montreal. For my automatic station wagon BORING ! Was much more fun in my manual Tiburon !! The kerbs gave the car a good shaking !! For Karting I did back to back kerb hits and bent a axle . If you want kerbs look no further than the V8 Supercars ! Its a thing of beauty on the street courses !

[@brittgardner2923]

So I suggest a solution: Mandate that whether red-and-whites exist or not, there is a gravel trap or grass placed the exact max regulation width of a car beyond the white line on the outside at every corner that does not have a wall or other barrier preventing track limit abuse. This does two things: It discourages track limit abuse and provides immediate verification of track limit exceedence without the need for twenty laps of review before a drive-through penalty or some such is handed down.