Why Don't I Throw Far in Disc Golf Part 1 | Distance Road Blocks for Beginners

[@JustDisc]

We can't say enough of how appreciative we are that you mentioned us in one of your videos. It truly means a lot and we can't thank you enough. Much appreciate Robbie C Disc Golf, keep doing what you are doing! 👍❤

[@petrafied99]

“Just one dude, trying to help.” Thanks for helping.

[@Nova-BlackStrat]

Been playing over a decade, but after a couple year hiatus, when I came back, I was struggling getting the same distance/speed as I used to have. I found out Innova made something called BLIZZARD plastic, so I tried it out, and it allowed me to start throwing Destroyers and Katana’s again, where at “regular” weight (170+’ish) I could not. One tip, don’t go TOO light, I tried a 139g destroyer, and it flies more under stable than a Roadrunner! Lol. I found the 150-160 range is my sweet spot to hit those 12 (sometimes even 13) speed numbers. P.S. I don’t remember if he mentioned this exactly, but lighter discs do NOT respond well in higher wind conditions! So be very mindful of that! Good Luck!

[@arlingtonguy54]

Been playing for 3 months and throw 60-100x almost daily focusing on form. Can throw 200+ ft now with my go to disc the Leopard. My distance and placement is improving slowly. Throwing and playing with friends is now my therapy in this F’ed up world. Great video and channel! They’re very valuable and entertaining. (BTW, I’m 68 😫)

[@onanthebarbarian9883]

I'm always pleased to see post-retirement age folks out there playing, it gives me something to look forward to. /58 here

[@jeffheyer7783]

Welcome to disc golf :)

[@thekushjedi]

I love the leopard. Favorite is the Pro Leopard!

[@joeydupont7664]

Hyper flipping a leopard is my go-to, my dx one is super flippy now so I just got a pro leopard to replace it along with a leopard3, welcome to disc golf, it’s an amazing sport.

[@jacheech95]

The Leopard is an excellent disc. I found a purple champion Leopard and could throw that about 375'. It eventually became too understable for me and I replaced it

[@southwest82]

Gstar has been my go to. It retains the durability of premium plastic but flies slightly understable vs same mold in star or champion. The other characteristics I love about gstar is incredible grip hot or cold. if it nails a tree it just drops as the plastic absorbs the impact. I dont see those 75ft tree kicks with gstar that you have with champion.

[@burtantone657]

☝🏼same

[@snikwahjets]

Yeah i like G Star for max distance. I feel more like Calvin throwing my G Star destroyer than my Calvin Heinburg Star destroyer 😁

[@jeromea1659]

Durability over the long term. Now we need G-StarLite

[@heikkihartikainen9881]

Same!

[@southwest82]

@@jeromea1659 a lot of times you can get f2 gstar in light weight on the factory store

[@joshuawaddell6640]

7:36 You missed a threshold for the counter 😁 Awesome video as always Robbie, very helpful. God bless!

[@bensalemi7783]

On a give hole, in a given round, trying to throw “far” doesn’t particularly lead to better scores. But, IMO, distance is THE number one factor in scoring. If you can’t reach the basket, your odds of birdieing the hole go down dramatically. The closer to your max distance you have to throw to reach a hole, the less likely you are to hit your line. The faster the disc that you have to throw, the more variable your shots are. If your buddy regularly puts it 20 feet on a hole, and you can get to 45 only on your very farthest throw, he can dramatically improve his average score by doing a little work on putting. You can do all the work you want on putting, but you’d need to reach pro level to birdie the hole more than once in a blue moon. But we get these tips about not trying to throw far, because, when a beginner is trying to throw far, that is likely the biggest factor in holding them back from achieving good distance.

[@Beaglefaust]

Those are great points. Most pros obviously gear up for big drives with a long run-up. But for me, it's far more important to get the fundamentals right for distance. And trying to throw far almost always makes it worse.

[@bernan1]

spot on. In DG, distance is king. Look no further than the stats for C2 in Reg as a predictor for high finishes...(or strokes gained tee to green compared to putting). I say this as someone who's 80+% in C1x putting....

[@cglasford1]

I mostly agree with this but I still strongly believe that new players need to work on their skills in this order, Putting because the better putter you are the less important your drive is, 2 your up shots those 150-200ft shots because the more accurate you are the close you can get to the pin and the less putting you have to do, I know kind of counter intuitive and then back hand driving, then forehand driving. I put the driving last because unless you are playing a course that is somewhat short 350 or less to the pin on average it will require most am players especially in MA4-MA2 to throw an up shot and then putt. MA1 that number probably goes out to 400-450. That said if you can get your accurate drives to that 380-420 range you will be a better player. Caveat to that you still have to be able to put because my C2 in regulation stat from the last tournament was approximately 85% on par 3s but my C2 putting was only 10% and C1x was 55%.... and I got 14th in MA2. I can consistently throw in that 400-425 range off the tee but I'm not great at putting, yet.

[@bensalemi7783]

@@cglasford1 To a certain extent, it very much depends on where you start out and what goals you have. That said, I'm going to disagree for the simple fact that hitting first available off the tee, or throwing it on a noob hyzer to nowhere on an open hole, these hurt you the most as a rank beginner. Work on throwing putters first and play very short,

[@cglasford1]

@@bensalemi7783 Those are all fair and great points. And I guess I would never instruct anyone who’s just starting out to simply focus on one aspect of the game all by itself but I would still probably prioritize it in the way that I have listed it. Standstill shots aka approach shots over drives. But you’re 100% correct everyone is so different. If the person has any athletic experience typically they pick up driving very quickly from my experience. That’s why I typically recommend working on putting as a primary focus

[@m.taylor7025]

Clay disc golf course...my dad lives near there, you must be from around Birmingham? I saw magnolia links in another video.

[@Fableddd]

I love and have no shame in throwing light weight discs. I bag 3 different weights of mvp waves. 154g fission for easy hyzer flips/tailwind bomber. 164g fission for distance that needs to come back at the end/ if there is a bit of wind. 175g glow that goes straight for a good while while having a dependable strong fade at the end. It also helps with mold minimalization so that instead of 3 different molds, I just have 3 slightly different waves. I also throw a 149g relay that I know will flip up and turn no matter what I do, which is very helpful since I do not have a forehand that I can trust off the tee. Great video Robbie, excited to see the future installments of this series.

[@LME1]

I started with a champ boss in my hand... It took years to move away from that. Now I mash on my sapphire, such a cool disc.

[@dannyturner2937]

Thanks Robbie you’re the man! Love all your videos and you’re making me better as a 53 year old beginner has been play in about eight months almost had my first ACE yesterday 170 yard to the basket. With my Pure. Rattled the chains on the back of the basket.😂

[@samuelrasmussen9458]

Looking forward to the series! I've hit a plateau at 350 ft it seems. *Controllable* distance is significant because you can put yourself in position for birdies that weren't possible even 50 feet less.

[@robertjosephwilson3596]

Robbie, you change my whole game for the better. I am now disc down in speed and playing so much more consistent. My arm speed right now is between a 9 to 11. I am driving farther than ever. It goes now, with out LUCK , where I want it to go. I’m throwing so much smoother. Your videos are funny and so helpful for people who have been playing for a while. I would like to thank you so much. If I didn’t work. I would watch your videos and play every day!

[@MadShifter20]

Wow, exactly what I am experiencing in my field work Rob. I use like 7 to 9 speed with a weight of 163 to 168 g discs. DX plastic . So glad to hear I'm on the right path in my practice. Thank you.

[@5stringaustin]

Tern is my go-to max distance driver. Absolutely love it. Thrasher and Trace are a couple other bombers.

[@Spyder_V]

I started playing last August and my friend who got me into dg gifted me three discs, one of which was a Halo Destroyer. I understood that it was way out of my throw ability, but I kept it in my bag to motivate me to continue to pursue reaching the ability to throw it. I do a lot of max distance fieldwork and I always included throwing that destroyer, even when it wouldn't reach the same distance as my mids. Thankfully, now I am able to get my destroyer to actually fly flat and fade at the end, but I know there's still a long way to go. For max distance, I currently bank on my Undertaker, but I've gotten some lucky throws in fieldwork with the new Halo Wraith that even put some of my Undertaker throws to shame. I think having a discs that's "out of your league" is great to maintain motivation in improving technique and constantly seeing progress with its flight.

[@ballzz2thewall]

Love that you mentioned the Tern, that is my go to Distance driver.

[@calebdyer6332]

The thing that helped me is loosening my arm. I was having trouble with rounding. My max distance throw was about 330 and my accuracy on long shots was terrible. I started throwing with a loose arm and snapping the disc. Now I can throw 400 pretty easily. And on a slight downhill I can almost hit 500.

[@Iliyena87]

Great that you've achieved all that timing and snap! I have yet to reach 400 ft but recently unlocked the same thing you are talking about. The tip to "Slam my elbow as if to hit a wall" made me use my torso and sling my arm over my chest finding the power pocket instead of rounding using the arm muscles. Unlocking this also made my forehand make more sense, as if a load on my brain of not getting either of them to work took from the other.

[@jeffheyer7783]

Yep letting your wrist go limp and snapping the disc not only gets you more distance, but allows you to throw easy distance. Hitting the power pocket and focusing the power through your hips. The key really is to slow everything down. The longer your “reach back” and the longer you wait to pull through, the faster the disc snaps.

[@jeffheyer7783]

I can hit 350 accurately. And 360-380 often. Downhill 450-500 is no issue

[@jeffheyer7783]

Still. I’d you can throw consistent 330-350 you can easily throw 400 with a little work

[@calebdyer6332]

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[@goodcopbadcopwrestlingpodc6117]

Heard someone say recently on a past about "what are some great tips for beginners" (i've been playing nearly 3 years). "The speed disc you should throw should be your maximum distance / 35". I did the math and I figured out that my speed 7 Teebird I throw well fits that very well ( I throw 230-250). I am working on engaging those hips more will definitely be watching this series.

[@romanvigil1555]

I started with a Jade and it really helped me to learn how to throw without manipulating the disc to get the flight flat. Now it is a great roller disc, Premium plastic 167

[@UtahDarkHorse]

Thank you so much Robbie for your excellent content. I really appreciate your affect (easy to listen to), your authenticity and sharing your personal journey along the way. I don't get quite as much from those who talk down to us from on high. Thanks again and best of luck.

[@daltonjohnson7033]

Hey! The gandalf disc at 10:37, I dyed that! I feel a little famous being on a Robbie C video haha.

[@treaustin1]

Your store looks like a dream. I’ve started booting out the super overstable discs from my bag except a felon and firebird for forehands. Not quite ready to give those up. Thanks for the tips!

[@chrisdavies7564]

G-Star for me. Started out as a forehand only player last year and liked how that plastic didn’t tear my index finger up with blisters and whatnot. I’ve come to really appreciate it’s durability and overall feel in any weather for forehand or backhand shots.

[@williaminkley1587]

162g Maverick had become a staple in my long range slot. Disk makes such a beautiful flight

[@tonyerskine4987]

The Kastaplast Grym is the disc I’ve been most successful with getting consistent distance. I’ve only been playing a year and don’t have a fast alarm yet. The impulse, insanity, and mamba are other great options.

[@tucker1623]

as someone who throws 500 feet, I still find the champ mamba in my bag as a great shot shaper or max distance for a big tailwind. it really is underrated

[@WillEnj0y]

You should try the Kastaplast Falk. Also great. Currently my straight flyer, but I only throw about 350 max currently.

[@iBenJammin]

Thanks for being a reliable source for information that's easy to digest. I've pointed my little 12 year old cousin here, but also a couple of my friends in their mid 20s! Great stuff Mr. Crawford

[@tyleranderson6533]

i love that you showcased the valkrie, just got it and im loving it, i only got it in star plastic tho so i might buy it in cchampion because it flies so straight for me and very far

[@MonkeyFreeZone]

I am so looking forward to watching Robbie throw that Pink Destroyer 500 feet. Keep improving - we go where our eyes are looking.

[@chancelebron3975]

Love my Terns and I used to try to throw more stable distance drivers but the Tern is just so easy to shape shots with through the woods.

[@brosa1212]

Gstar plastic 165g to 170g Understable or used beat up discs Lots of form practice

[@a.j.5108]

Robbie is right. As a beginner my drives have substantially improved by going from a 13 speed max weight distance driver to a 146g 7 speed fairway driver.

[@Pwrcritter]

Sprained my sc joint throwing backhand. Been taking it easy the past few weeks..

[@deanneufeld9122]

Brilliantly done, Robbie. This really does a lot to help explain and justify why I need to use lower speed discs to appropriately match my arm speed. Everything good comes to those who wait and practice, patience and persistence with this beautiful game will eventually bring me from fairway drivers to distance drivers. Ain't no same in throwing an Eagle, TL or a Leopard. 6 months in! Cheers, my Friend:)

[@sethjones3941]

For beginners I blend is awesome. S blend requires more power. Esp beats in nicely as well in time. Royal plastic is gorgeous too

[@derekhubbard8918]

Robbie C. knows! The Tern is an awesome disc, one of my favorites! Accuracy is definitely helped if you are not jammin on heavy overstable discs. Great video!

[@johna5915]

I added the lightweight assassin and lightweight journey from Gateway both in suregrip plastic and 159 grams to my bag and they are easily my furtherest flying discs

[@bgrelle]

While I do have a couple high speed discs in my bag right now, they are only there for headwind throws off the tee. The highest speed disc I use normally is an 8, but even that one doesn't get used much. Most of the time I am throwing 7 speeds off the tee if I need max distance for me (usually about 290').

[@gabehart9092]

Gotta mention Discmania Neo plastic. I think the Essence is a great driver option for people throwing in the 250-300ft range. That said, there's no substitute for field work. Last summer, I gained 100ft, but it took somewhere around 100 hrs in the field.

[@usptasouthern]

Another great video by RC. Thanks for the great info. Ready to drop by Birmingham and grab a round with you. Was hoping to catch you at Lula, but could not get there on that weekend.

[@Aigler6]

Robbie you're the man! Been recommending you to a bunch of my buddies who are just starting out! Thank you for your hard work and great attitude!

[@NJT1013]

After playing for three years, I was able to correctly throw my Wraith out to around 360-380 without compromising form. Never bagged anything faster than the Wraith, never needed to. Most beginners would do well with something like an FD. One day, I threw a Dedtroyer. Maybe it was a Nuke. Very early on, and then I threw a mid that sailed past where that fast disc landed. It was all clear at that point.

[@ryansuter4424]

Glide!! Higher the glide the longer it will stay in the air and therefore more distance. Warning can loose control in headwinds😯

[@kenthomas1535]

I remember the first time I played disc golf it was at Woodstock in 1969...we were on LSD and buddy bet me I couldn’t throw my Whamo frisbee and hit Country Joe McDonald in the head. I took my time, set my feet and hurled it at the stage. The frisbee cleared the stage and actually hit jimmy Hendrix’s base player David Noel Redding in head. Ever since that day I have only used the best golf disc to separate my weed on. I love disc golf now. I love wasting my time throwing a piece of plastic around.

[@mikehess4494]

And you remembered...excellent!

[@lkeeton32gaming96]

Robbie, first all of all thanks for all the content you put out! You've helped me develop so much in just a few weeks. Secondly, as I was watching I realized you were throwing on my home course. I actually parred that hole for the first time ever today. Hope I run into you out there sometime. Definitely gonna have to make a trip over to the shop.

[@gagavon9237]

I wish your channel was around when I started playing. Great tips. Great channel. Peace!

[@jakec5550]

Trilogy (DD, L64, Westside) plastics has the "AIR" option in many of their molds, I looked for it, but didn't see it. I also have ADD and probably got distracted by something shiny before completing the list that was plastered all over the screen. I have an "AIR" Evader and Hatchet that I love and I'm going to try a couple of 12 speed options in their "AIR" plastic.

[@prattacaster]

Also, the Diamond and Sapphire are both lighter weight discs even though you won't see that they are "Air" discs. I bag a Diamond quite often, it's nice to have later in the round when you need to hyzer flip something and have it go straight then turn. I have a Lucid air Trespass. You can find them still and they are the Bomb!!! Have good stability and dome.

[@charlessexton2630]

Agree. My lucid air trespass is absolutely my go to. Fantastic consistency for such a lightweight disc.

[@lyonlawncare4145]

My go-to is a Lucid Air Maverick, great turnover and hyzer flip disc for me, I typically max out around 280, and average about 250-260. I also keep a Lucid Maverick and Prime Maverick for more stable to overstable shots.

[@kieronmckay4276]

All i can say, is your form is your own and it is unique and if you're trying to improve, it's always evolving. What the pros use doesn't mean you have to use that. For most people building up to max distance (and I'm doing this myself as well) is go as understable as possible. The scale goes from -5 to +1, so you're looking at Mambas (-5), and Roadrunners (-4) and things like that. Build into those discs, and when those beat in and your form has improved enough to be able to reliably turn those because they will still act stable for lower arm speeds and if you're not getting them nose down, step down to less understable discs, and then to stable discs, then over stable discs. That turn number is probably the most important thing to focus on, not the name of the disc and how other people view that disc ("Oh I can't use those it's too flippy," "it's just a roller / utility disc for me," etc)

[@richardhislop-harvestthena4882]

Thanks for this man! Because this video I’m deff going to try our a Tern over a Wraith!

[@ryansuter4424]

Innova has light weight and understable discs! Try under 160 gram sidewinder(95-31)/ Roadrunner 95-41/ Mamba 116-51. I could not find the Monarch (105-41) in a light weight discs. For more under stability stay away from champion, blizzard and metal flake plastics. 150 G Star Mamba is my max distance disc with accuracy when not in a head wind. In headwind I go with the Star Sidewinder. For drivers Star plastic is my choice! I don’t play in a lot of rain. If you do try and find G-star.

[@Elmarias777]

My game weakness has mainly been consistency in throwing. It's something I have to consciously work on instead of distance. I have high strength so i can easily turn over destroyers (and not just release badly, i've had others check as well as seen the disc turn over mid flight, not just off the rip) but my foot placement and speed is inconsistent. So once I can get that down, I will be able to actually place my shots better instead of worrying if I will release early, late or near the perfect zone. Good distance, placement all over the place lol. I will be looking over your other videos to see what you have made to help me. Good work on this, I look forward to seeing you more. I use 3 destroyers right now (stable, over and under) as well as a Warship, mako3 and buzz for midranges, and my aviar or guard for putting, depending on if i need a spin putt or push putt.

[@rood5681]

Recently picked up a pre-owned Katana in blizzard champ. Weighs 151g and it feels like a cheat code. I can really chuck this one far and it has a very reliable fade in both FH and BH.

[@buildingbespoke4792]

Nice, my Favorite is a DX Thunderbird.

[@cadmando18]

Good video, I like how you touched on plastic selection. The type of plastic makes a huge difference in flight and consistency. I have a ton of destroyers and they all fly a little different.

[@mike-fb4fw]

i love the wraith! recently added a champion mamba because it felt so similar to a wraith and is as flippy as my most beat in wraith but i can throw it without worrying about losing it

[@WillEnj0y]

Yesterday was my first time throwing 2 300+ shots without feel like I’m about to destroy my body to do so. Pretty happy. Excited to continue to tweak it.

[@jeffheyer7783]

That’s the thing that people seldom talk about. Your throw shouldn’t hurt your body, hand, elbow, etc. If it does, it means your timing is off. Unless you are throwing 500-600 feet you really shouldn’t feel anything.

[@WillEnj0y]

@@jeffheyer7783 yeah, like most things, if it’s legitimately hurting you, don’t do it something is really wrong.

[@brandonmiller289]

I finally found my max distance disc. The GRACE! That disc fits my current arm speed perfectly.

[@nickwalsh643]

Take any driver that you like the feel of in your hand, and throw it. If it finishes left (for correct handed people 😜) earlier than you want, grind it in a figure 8 pattern on a side walk, repeat that until you get the flight pattern you want. I buy 3 at a time, same color and weight, keep one overstable, grind one till I can flip it a bit, and make the third one into a roller. This way every shot shape for distance that I need is with the exact same feeling disc, and it’s helped my game quite a bit.

[@claytonmitte5960]

Hooligan is manufactured by Lone Star Discs also out of Texas! Check out all Alpha plastic molds by LSD if you like the feel of the Hooligan plastic

[@Steventhrowsbirds]

10:35. Get out of my head! 😂 Also. Great video! You continue to produce amazing content. Can wait for the next video already. I’m throwing a (trace) or my DD3 on most distance drives. I reach 320 but can’t seem to get the extra distance i feel I have in me.. Couldn’t resist buying a C line PD1 under 169 a few days back. Going to try it as soon as it gets here.

[@iluvcmt09]

I throw normal Star destroyers for 400+ accurate shots but I have a G-star plastic one that does fly the same distance with alot less effort but accuracy is effected because of the weight and also it's ability to sometimes turnover and sometimes not. But 2 of the best distance drivers I have had success with are the Discraft Hades and Dynamic disc Captain. I rarely bag them unless I know the course is long and OB isn't a huge factor on shot placement.

[@ryansuter4424]

In my experience plastic type effects the disc flight quite a bit. I have some discs that are light weight and understable that still fly over-stable for me. (My Max flat distance is between 200-250) So if the premium (stiffer) plastic is too overstable go to the softer basic plastic.

[@pipertripp]

First driver I could throw well was a used star leopard that I found in the bin at play it again sports. Still have that disc and I use it in certain conditions. I still don't mess with anything over 11 speed, and I have some 7/8 speed discs that I really enjoy throwing. I don't crack 400 ft all that often but I've gone from being a 250 ft max distance to consistently getting out to 350 ft. But... my consistency isn't great, and accuracy is way more important that simply throwing a long ways. So I have plenty more work to do.

[@steveclarkreborn]

I've been playing for about a year now, and I can say from my journey that the disc that I grew into at the beginning (the Essence) has ALWAYS been the disc that I can throw the farthest. That distance has grown from 225ft to 350ft in that time, but I still cannot find a disc that gives me more distance than the one I know like the back of my hand. The only change is I can throw the premium plastic a lot more reliable now than when I started

[@danielrosborne]

People often forget that the Valkyrie was the world distance record disc for quite a while. I made the beginner mistake of going from dx plastic starter kit, everything in the 150 gram range, to buying a max weight champion destroyer. I eventually found pro plastic Valkyrie which I could throw decently and get decent distance with. And then I started losing them after turning them over on a 430' hole into a sea of bushes and lost like 3 of them that way, which is when I learned about disc weight, disc speed, and plastic type. I didn't know you could over throw a disc. I was using destroyers as forehand only discs that would always end right for me, and wraith for my distance driver. Eventually got to the point where I was turning my star wraith over... and started throwing my destroyers a bit more. I recently got a star destroyer instead of champion plastic and found that it's more manageable for my backhand, though it's a full send for sure and I don't always get any turn out of it. Anyway, it's been a journey and I've learned a lot and I have a lot yet to learn. Appreciate the content!

[@crimsontide1980]

I just started watching your channel, and this is the first video I watched of yours, subscribed right away BTW. Anyways I've been playing for right around 20 years and sadly my skill level hasnt really evolved very much over the last 2 decades. That's 100 percent on me, I haven't done much to step up my game as far as talking to higher skilled players, haven't really studied up by watching videos, I've never had anyone record me throwing, etc. And thanks to your video I now know I've been using the wrong mindset when choosing discs. My main discs I throw are the Destroyer, Daedalus, and Mamba. All 3 are higher speed discs, and like you alluded to in this video, I thought higher speed rating =more speed from my throws, not higher speed discs = the more arm speed you need to throw these discs. I decided to purchase a Leopard3 and a Valkyrie after watching this. Next step is trying to figure out everything I'm doing wrong before I can realistically expect to see any improvements in my game. I'm embarrassed to say, but my average drive is probably 250' or less, and always seems like the harder I try to throw it harder and faster, the less distance I seem to get. I really need a disc golf coach.....if you know of any in the West TN area, please point me in their direction. I love disc golf, even if I never improve past my current level, but it's so demoralizing to watch these other guys go up there and throw these beautiful, flat throws that seem to glide for eternity, and I try to replicate their throws and I throw one way up in the air that banks hard left, barely clearing 200 feet.

[@scottdonham]

That YEET looks sick! Getting one of those for sure.

[@rynoturtle]

Great video, i would recommend the dx beast, maybe 165-175 grams, depending on your arm. Once I was able to flip that over no problems I moved up to dx wraith( various weights), now I'm trying the dx destroyers in various weights. I also suggest the mamba, it's a good understable driver too.

[@energyvortex1000]

Yup I got 3 DX Beasts, 145, 150 and 158 grams, they are my farthest flying discs. Sidewinder in DX is a good one too

[@LutherAmosHouse]

getting back in to DG with some more effort this time around. It's awkward throwing from a wheelchair. Dig the videos and tips.

[@bryanfellenbaum9250]

*Starlord voice* FINALLY. Excited for this one. I think distance is overrated in terms of beginner skills (been playing for a year now and I like throwing mids and fairways more than anything distance driver), but there's a point when you want to practice and see just how far you can throw.

[@JuanJimenez-od1ho]

Robbie, this is super helpful! Where was this when I started 1.5 years ago, lol.

[@GIOVANNI-vf5ox]

BRO ! This was a super great video !! thanks for the proper breakdown and realistic expectations. High Five !!

[@RTEMPS5]

It is funny that your example of heavy vs lightweight discs was a captain. I actually have both a lucid and lucid air captain and the lucid air is WAY easier to throw. In my mind, I might outgrow the air one day and move up to the heavier one.

[@martins458]

Love the tern. Max distance for me comes from a pro wraith which is actually less stable than the tern. Pro plastic is awesome, i wish it was easier to source.

[@papajames8645]

That tie dye DD tapestry is pretty sick!

[@Daltonsollars47]

Innova PRO plastic changed my game. Pro Beast, Pro Wraith, Pro Destroyer especially when they get beat in.

[@jonspell88]

I don't think they make them anymore, but I used to really like StarLite from Innova. All understable drivers for me. Mamba, Valkyrie, Bolt. I think I need to try a Sidewinder or Roadrunner again.

[@whowhat1158]

Robbie, your vids are always a blast to watch! I love all the advice and mentorship you give out. Keep up the great work!

[@energyvortex1000]

Love G-Star…. I have a Gazelle and it’s 175 grams and a monster that eats headwinds and actually seems to fly further into one versus no wind. Just wish it was 5 grams lighter.

[@Beaglefaust]

I still have trouble with getting onto my right side throwing BH thanks to subconsciously favoring my right knee after surgery many years ago. But when I manage to push hard off my left foot on the X-step and really hit (crush the can, causes "snap" per Stokely, whatever) the front plant foot, boom, the disc suddenly goes pretty far (for me). And yeah, my super glidey 7-speed River is basically as long (or longer when my form sucks) as my 13-speed Mayhem 90% of the time. But it is interesting that even a 13-speed, which I really have no business throwing, works pretty well when I get the form right.

[@Venc1698]

Love it! This is way up there with Danny Lindahls content! Subscribed!

[@maxray29]

I feel great about getting my 4 and 5 speed Rocs out to 300 - 320ft with some consistency. When I need to go farther, I pull out something in the 7 - 9 speed range, but then I throw them 250ft and I feel bad and I swear I'm going to quit playing disc golf and donate my bag to charity. Unrelated, my 9-year-old's vocabulary is about 60% 'Yeet', so I definitely know what I'm getting him for his birthday.

[@Beaglefaust]

I'll bet you have throwing nose up issues. Releasing nose up absolutely kills driver distance. The two main causes (out of many, including several throwing motion issues) are not getting on your front plant foot before pulling and not having your wrist in the "pouring coffee" position to keep the nose down. Good luck. I work on it every time I go out.

[@vanhor00]

Met you on Monday at the store, thank you for the help finding that blue Kona Panis escape. Looking forward to this series as I have just started introducing some distance drivers back into my bag after a year of throwing exclusively fairways.

[@thulsey022]

Another great video Robbie. I have really broken down my distance game to 3 molds. DDx - Scorpius - Wraiths. All in Star or S-line plastic. And all in various weights from 169 to 175. Based off of wind read and what I need the disc to do, where I need it to finish or how I'm feeling that round will determine my disc selection for that max drive to an ideal landing zone.

[@travis4863]

159g handeye lucid sapphire. Prefers a tailwind 168g I dye tern will take on any wind 168g gstar leopard3 for shorter drives Prefer my discmania slightly heavier low 170's

[@chrisschuster9828]

Dude?! When I figured out disc weight and stability had changed my game drastically!!! This video is going to help A LOT of people. Great stuff. 🙌❤️🥏💥⛓

[@KingKerrmitt]

I see those Kristin Tattar Graces in the background. Grace is the disc I found that matches my arm speed and flight for max distance currently. Well, between that and the Finish Line Era from Drew Gibson. Still figuring out which I actually want in the bag.

[@mindlander]

That's crazy! I bag both and they are my two favorite discs to throw.

[@KingKerrmitt]

@@mindlander what differences do you see in them? They overlap so much for me that if I bag both I'll always have indecision on which to throw in situations.

[@chadhasler1913]

That’s a lot of good looking MVP plastic back there!

[@orb2150tx]

5 glide fairway drivers. A nice field. Work on snap and form. Works for me.

[@Cristopher1976]

I hope to run across you this weekend. I will be at different course the same time as you Friday but im hoping at some point to make it happen. Maybe the fly mart even. Good luck bud

[@tomahoks]

You missed at least two thresholds. Nice video, very true. I throw Valkyrie and FD 250ft all day, maybe not.

[@guitarflop680]

Starter playing last summer and i got a hades that got a few months ago that just work it’s worderful to Throw and goes between 300-400feet

[@jasonredepenning]

I find if I buy new disks and leave them in my trunk a few years that they throw much better when I pull them out. This is why I have no problem buying used disc's.

[@alexvaltakis522]

I always recommend going to the used bin at shops and look for slightly beat in distance drivers. I’ve found some perfectly beat in wraiths that I can hyzer flip. Also you’re not breaking the bank by trying out discs..

[@energyvortex1000]

Agreed…. I’ve found some gems

[@nicholasnoah6529]

been playing just about 2 years now. ma40, i use a 170 star wraith, and a 173 champion tern for max dist.

[@SwankyDiscGolf]

Love this idea for a series! And Chop On 👀

[@triplespace007]

Thank you, I now know why I can throw my 166g Wraith better (backhand at least) than other discs in my bag.

[@energyvortex1000]

Same here, I got one at 162

[@amburger4963]

Great video Robbie appreciate the new content. 😀

[@christopherwilson2606]

O I remember the day I had to give up the Destroyer for the Wrath a few years ago being in my late 40's now. But still getting 350 feet fairly consistently, which I'm totally fine with at this point.

[@wisherb1]

I think that the inconsistencies of the plastics has a lot to do with it. This is why you can have large variations in a single mold type, like a destroyer. This affect the speed threshold greatly.