Women Who Do Not Fit Normative Femininity: ESTP ISTP ENTP INTP

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Dr Cherie Types

Dr Cherie Types

Күн бұрын

Explaining who the Introverted Thinking (Ti) types really are (ESTP ISTP ENTP INTP) and how women of these types are often misunderstood in societies with limiting definitions of gender. Using Yu Ling and Crissa from Netflix The Circle S4 as examples.
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00:00 Intro
02:17 Which Types are Ti dominant?
02:43 What is Ti?
03:55 Ti versus Fi
04:45 Fi is associated with femininity
05:22 Ti makes you blunt with the truth
06:15 Growing up as a girl with Ti
06:48 Ti dominant = Lower Fe
08:09 Coping mechanisms
11:27 Ti welcomes the raw truth
12:59 Lower Fe is deeply caring
14:04 Ti needs instruction
16:01 Ti/Fe sources values externally
17:08 The Circle Crissa & Yu Ling
19:20 Ti women: Be yourself :)
In the meantime, if you wanted to learn more about the basics of personality type, I would recommend the channel ‪@lovewho‬ who does a great job explaining in a thoughtful and unbiased way
#16personalities #Netflix #TheCircle
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@beritter
@beritter Жыл бұрын
Wow…I’m an INTP and this made me tear up. All those things you mentioned us doing (geeking out on something, people pleasing and shutting down)…been there, done that. Trying to embrace who I am now, unapologetically. Thank you so much for this 💜
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment - it means the world to me that it resonates with you ❤️
@lavinder11
@lavinder11 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I'm an INTJ woman who struggled in relationship, especially re male/female dynamic. However, past 30, I stopped explaining myself. You either like it or leave it and even of you leave it, the sun is still gonna shine on me.
@citrigagne2029
@citrigagne2029 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I am an INTJ (Te dom) and not a Ti dom user, I 100% could relate to wanting people to be direct with their emotional needs since it's way less stressful versus trying to figure it out myself.
@daebak_hana
@daebak_hana Жыл бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@tiffybl00bs99
@tiffybl00bs99 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Te doms are ENTJ and ESTJs. INTJs are Ni dominant and Te Auxiliary, you aren't a Te Dom.
@dxfifa
@dxfifa Ай бұрын
INTJs have Fe blindspot so along with ISTJs are the most clueless to social norms and how to create harmony and good emotions. To an IxTJ feelings and norms are so personal they often assume everybody wants to be treated completely individually and therefore project their own personal norms by default (assuming everybody shares their norms until proven otherwise). Thus they do what would make them feel happy and included completely ignoring that Fe users have rules they believe are polite for anyone to follow and high Fi users are also obsessed with their own personal values of politeness that are usually less naive and more thought out comparing values of their own to other Fe and Fi users to get the system better equipped. The only people who really don't care about the IxTJs strange behaviour are the Fe demon types, or people of any type who have all the same ideas of politeness and social skills by coincidence. You'll find the types with low Fe are the worst, but low Se is also huge, and low Fi of the types with no Fe are the "weird and rude types" ISTJ are completely clueless outside of their narrow comfort zone. They're almost always incredibly rude, rigid, impolite and selfish when in a group of people who aren't like them. ESTJ are just as bad. INTJ can be charismatic and clever about seeming interesting, but seeming interested and socially skilled is beyond them. Their Se is a little bit rudimentary but they can sometimes pull off giving others entertainment and engagement, they are socially oblivious though. INFP are completely oblivious to how to play a crowd and entertain and come across as very self centered and unaware of how anyone but themselves feels. Reading the room is almost impossible for them. INTP are also oblivious to their surroundings and how to make others have a good time, but they don't struggle to understand how everyone is feeling, they do struggle a bit to affect it how they would like to though. These are probably those with the worst social skills. ENTJ, ISTP, ENTP, ISFP are better but all struggle a lot in certain situations
@studioseagraves
@studioseagraves 2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank u for this!! I’m an INTP and have always felt a bit Unfeminine but I’m glad I have such great analytical + logical skills! Omg I’m always researching astrology + mbti so I can figure people out. I research everything!
@beritter
@beritter Жыл бұрын
Same 💜
@cb64
@cb64 Жыл бұрын
This video is so spot on it brought me to tears. I'm an INTP woman and I identified with everything you said, the part about shutting down, feeling alienated and misunderstood... wow.
@brunobrancopontarolli8160
@brunobrancopontarolli8160 2 жыл бұрын
As an ENTP, the raw truth ressembles strongly at me. The criticism can be hard if I sense it don't comes from a place of debate, yet it comes from a judging perspective. If it's open and fair, I can receive, so long we can linger and review the opinion
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Debate to sharpen each other in order to reach the truth is very different from stabbing at your feelings, at your core
@SilentRiver00
@SilentRiver00 9 ай бұрын
"Geeking out...spending a lot of time researching and learning about human behavior..." Okay but did you have to call me out THAT hard?! 😂 On another note I would really love to see a video talking about the inverse - Fe dominant with a lower Ti (especially in the 3rd position) and how that might present itself. Like, is there a similar potential to cope with things by trying to override the Fe with doubling down on the Ti? I know the social stigmas/pressures aren't really so much of a thing in that case, but I still feel like it would provide a fascinating contrast! Especially for anyone who might be like me - a female likely-INTP (never officially evaluated, but it's always seemed to fit) who also resonates strongly with how you describe Fe-dominant types and is now questioning if I'm actually Ti-dominant, or if I've actually just been coping too hard! 😅
@user-lx4uk5un7s
@user-lx4uk5un7s 2 жыл бұрын
Ti: "Personal framework of logic" Fi: "Internal value system". Both seem to be subjective to themselves, their own knowledge base, frame of reference.
@freelyrenee3494
@freelyrenee3494 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha!!! I definitely can relate I’m a strong TI but I had to learn to work on my FE and now my journey is to merge or balance the two. OMG you are sooo accurate! 😂 I love it ❤❤❤
@anelisaqase1168
@anelisaqase1168 Жыл бұрын
I love this video. I've struggled with my dominant Ti. People never appreciated my honesty and they still don't, but I love this video it makes me aware of why people misunderstood my honesty as being judgmental. Thank you!
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes Жыл бұрын
Those who appreciate the truth and your good intentions will appreciate you 🫶
@thisishowitallends9321
@thisishowitallends9321 Жыл бұрын
I always loved being different. Being called bossy and bitchy sounds like a praise to me. Would never want to be perceived as nice or sweet. ENTP
@pizzamassacre
@pizzamassacre 2 жыл бұрын
As an INTP I resonate with a lot of what you said 😁
@Macxzz7532
@Macxzz7532 4 ай бұрын
INTP here and I am at a point where i'm mentally and and emotionally exhausted because of trying to navigate between Ti and Fe and i just can't figure it out. I want to have deep relationships but I feel like I'm doing it wrong. I mostly feel like an alien, observing instead of being in the moment, when i try to develop my Fe, it feels so mechanical so i end up isolating myself, then i regret that. I've been called blunt, cold and aloof but i know that's not me i just don't know how to navigate it. As you said, I have a huge interest in human psychology, personality types, even astrology in a bid to understand people better but it's still a struggle. I'm at a point of just wanting to shut down my Ti and not bother with Fe. This video made me feel less crazy😅, thank you.
@moniqueeebite
@moniqueeebite 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna cry cause this is so accurate 🥲
@k8schmate
@k8schmate Жыл бұрын
already there get me the kleenex
@cfiocco
@cfiocco 2 жыл бұрын
As an infp i am so annoyed with my own type and love and admire ti people. I admire them, i love listening to them, i love their vibe! They truly inspire me :)
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Ti appreciation ❤️
@laurendilaurentis6467
@laurendilaurentis6467 9 ай бұрын
why are you annoyed?
@katherines144
@katherines144 2 ай бұрын
I'm an INTP. You're right about the unappreciated bluntness. I work in marketing and I'm really good at it because I research SEO and know what motivates people. Sometimes when I tell others what type of marketing messages and campaigns work, they get so insulted. I find it kind of funny but it holds me back so much in my career because I just can't seem to sugar coat things, especially when I get excited about an idea
@Melinamiu007
@Melinamiu007 2 ай бұрын
It doesn’t give you 2:06 an excuse for forgetting the humanity of people. Every marketing woman exec I’ve met are miserable and maybe that’s why they lack humanity and that means you don’t value your own.
@nicholasblythe7572
@nicholasblythe7572 2 жыл бұрын
Insightful video. Sadly, Ti dom women have to deal with so much in society. It is a shame. 😔
@maryoath
@maryoath 2 жыл бұрын
Istp here. Thanks for this!
@spicychai
@spicychai 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video!! I loved this topic.
@freelyrenee3494
@freelyrenee3494 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this opportunity to present this information!!! Very well said
@CelestialSoular
@CelestialSoular 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this. Thank you for this video. ✨☀️✨
@arsyoubae5092
@arsyoubae5092 2 жыл бұрын
your videos never fail to disappoint. i always leave taking things away
@Sleepingwei
@Sleepingwei 2 жыл бұрын
This was so accurate in every way
@beachbomb
@beachbomb 2 жыл бұрын
Yess queen I'm glad i found ur channel 💚💚💚 (Entp Male)
@misumisu1
@misumisu1 Жыл бұрын
I really love your videos❤
@amyc5912
@amyc5912 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you were talking about me in this episode. I’ve finally been able to figure myself out after watching this and it’s answered so many questions for me.
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it’s helped you 🙂
@CRFSUIGENERIS
@CRFSUIGENERIS 4 ай бұрын
I feel seen! Thank you!
@gustavofelix4079
@gustavofelix4079 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@blondy450
@blondy450 Жыл бұрын
im INTP and I can related to everything you mention thank so much
@colorsmith5569
@colorsmith5569 2 жыл бұрын
You were basically describing my boyfriend.
@dreaoca
@dreaoca 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I'm an estp and I've always felt like there was something "wrong" with me because I'm not very feminine or in touch with my feelings.
@Grace-jb7me
@Grace-jb7me Жыл бұрын
You say you cant be both but I often come off as blunt and too logical to my family and friends and yet am an ENFP. This video generally sounds like me. There's nothing I dislike more than people not telling me what they need. I still have values but I don't like the guesswork. Maybe Ive changed over the years...who knows
@babycakes8514
@babycakes8514 2 ай бұрын
TE women are more protected by their FI, they don't need group harmony. As an ESTP, I relate to this on a deep level. Know that being myself will offend people so I dont express myself much or just stick to being nice, but then some people accuse me of not being genuinely nice or of being stand offish!
@neuman_adventures
@neuman_adventures Жыл бұрын
My x-gf was an ISTP and her "optimization" simplified me as an ENFP, she couldn't handle any of my individual thoughts that didn't fit her template. That makes sense of adopting the values of external resources for a high Ti, with her it was being a radical lefty in politics, whereas my values on politics are flexible and I pick and choose within the left to-right spectrum. I also see that people's personal choices come from systemic issues and she couldn't handle that to the point it seemed she would ignore reality to make sure nothing questioned her way of thinking.
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes Жыл бұрын
It seems like several things are happening with your ex. 1) Fe Inferior has a binary understanding of values, vs your F dominant capable of understanding nuances. 2) Ne Blindspot struggles to hold paradoxical ideas simultaneously, whilst you can slide comfortably left and right within the political spectrum depending on situation and it still make sense to you. Of course, it doesn’t mean all ISTPs will share your ex’s thinking. But it’ll require the ISTP to broaden their sources of info (Ti), have experiences with a variety of people and situations (Se), in order to open their mind up (improved Ni and Fe). Thanks for sharing
@neuman_adventures
@neuman_adventures Жыл бұрын
@@DrCherieTypes Aww you're are so awesome to expand on this for me as I still struggle a year later losing her. Thank you so much!
@totalsaikou4520
@totalsaikou4520 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful! I related quite a bit with this episode since you discussed trying to grapple with lesser feeling functions (mine are reversed as an INTJ, I have low FI and a FE blindspot) as a woman. I can't wait to see what you discuss next!
@limxinyi9915
@limxinyi9915 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Lenastar23
@Lenastar23 2 жыл бұрын
I would not have seen Yu Ling as ESTP- another once to think on- thanks for the video
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes 2 жыл бұрын
I must admit Yu Ling was one I did a double take on. My first impression was ESFP, but that quickly didn’t make sense in terms of how others related to her. Then I realised it’s because she doesn’t have Fi.
@Lenastar23
@Lenastar23 2 жыл бұрын
@@DrCherieTypes To be fair I wasn't as invested in this season the way I had been in previous seasons- mostly listening in the background. I will rewatch for this purpose specifically :)
@mikaelaskalberg3640
@mikaelaskalberg3640 2 ай бұрын
All this fits me well 😁
@hellaSwankkyToo
@hellaSwankkyToo Жыл бұрын
🤯😳 WTF? is my type wrong???? you described me to a T (i'm currently on the 3rd coping mechanism, it's safer here); but....i could've sworn i was an INTJ. i'm so confused.
@hellaSwankkyToo
@hellaSwankkyToo Жыл бұрын
also a big fan of Crissa but don't watch TV so had no idea she was on The Circle. LOL but the thumbnail def caught my attention. LOL BTW, i think you nailed Crissa too. LOL so accurate. + i think she would agree.
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes Жыл бұрын
I type and define functions very differently from Myers Briggs so that can lead to confusion. INTJ has a lot of similar traits with Ti types, esp ISTP.
@AmbrogioColetti
@AmbrogioColetti 2 жыл бұрын
Can I write a comment to just boost your popularity? ok thx
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you 🙏
@Heezbungus
@Heezbungus Жыл бұрын
Fr
@_VISION.
@_VISION. 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may have incorrectly defined Ti and how it works. Sounds like you described Te instead. Ti isn't looking for practicality. It's a reductive thinking process that takes objects, extract for the essential properties and concludes for itself whether that essential property is true or not. It does this by comparing objects against its own method of coherency. Ti doesn't do this for logistical purposes like Te.
@annepaulinetiu4036
@annepaulinetiu4036 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is true. She got Te and Ti confused.
@DrJamesT
@DrJamesT 2 жыл бұрын
She differentiated Ti from Te by saying Ti is subjective thinking, implying Te is externally derived. Both Te and Ti, meaning thinking in general, can lead to practical results. I agree with your definition of Ti. The outcome of "comparing objects against its own method of coherency" could result in something practical or logistical. The team that invented Amazon Prime, a practical and logistical example, can't be exclusively Te able. Te seeks truth too, but differently. Once truth is found it will be utilised in the world - the definition of practicality.
@dsntgtbttr
@dsntgtbttr Жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely shut off my Ti and Fe 😖
@DrCherieTypes
@DrCherieTypes Жыл бұрын
I hope you take encouragement from my video ❤️
@specks_alot
@specks_alot Жыл бұрын
Where can we take a test????
@themoonbleu627
@themoonbleu627 Жыл бұрын
I’m an Estp this doesn’t apply to me internally I’m masculine thinking but externally very famine and I submit to men with Estp it’s very much how they were raised who we grew up and were conditioned by
@seacrest73
@seacrest73 2 жыл бұрын
I think I met someone like that who had shut down. She was just abrasive. And she straight up told me she hated ppl like me. 🥲 I was like naive and bubbly and open. It wasn't until she bullied me into crying that she stopped being agro with me.
@seacrest73
@seacrest73 2 жыл бұрын
@@calmingbabysleep1256 I think so. And the fact I didn't then respond in like. Like she showed me her ugliest meanest self and I still didn't dislike or hate her. I still wanted to be cordial and friendly. And I think that softened her.
@barbarabuttler7647
@barbarabuttler7647 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you were bullied! Stay bubbly and open; as an ENTP, I love bubbly, open people.❤
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