Women Who Do Not Fit Normative Femininity: ESTP ISTP ENTP INTP

[@vanitaconnery3411]

omg Dr Cherie, you are amazing! i have watched sooo many videos of yours and loved them all. i have however found it so difficult to identify my type as it seemed contradictory until now. I have studied personalty frameworks endlessly as you describe for the reasons you explain - can't wait for consultation in March!

[@lavinder11]

Yep. I'm an INTJ woman who struggled in relationship, especially re male/female dynamic. However, past 30, I stopped explaining myself. You either like it or leave it and even of you leave it, the sun is still gonna shine on me.

[@beritter]

Wow…I’m an INTP and this made me tear up. All those things you mentioned us doing (geeking out on something, people pleasing and shutting down)…been there, done that. Trying to embrace who I am now, unapologetically. Thank you so much for this 💜

[@DrCherieTypes]

Thank you for your comment - it means the world to me that it resonates with you ❤️

[@Tamaranth404]

"Geeking out...spending a lot of time researching and learning about human behavior..." Okay but did you have to call me out THAT hard?! 😂 On another note I would really love to see a video talking about the inverse - Fe dominant with a lower Ti (especially in the 3rd position) and how that might present itself. Like, is there a similar potential to cope with things by trying to override the Fe with doubling down on the Ti? I know the social stigmas/pressures aren't really so much of a thing in that case, but I still feel like it would provide a fascinating contrast! Especially for anyone who might be like me - a female likely-INTP (never officially evaluated, but it's always seemed to fit) who also resonates strongly with how you describe Fe-dominant types and is now questioning if I'm actually Ti-dominant, or if I've actually just been coping too hard! 😅

[@brunobrancopontarolli8160]

As an ENTP, the raw truth ressembles strongly at me. The criticism can be hard if I sense it don't comes from a place of debate, yet it comes from a judging perspective. If it's open and fair, I can receive, so long we can linger and review the opinion

[@DrCherieTypes]

Very good point. Debate to sharpen each other in order to reach the truth is very different from stabbing at your feelings, at your core

[@citrigagne2029]

Even though I am an INTJ (Te dom) and not a Ti dom user, I 100% could relate to wanting people to be direct with their emotional needs since it's way less stressful versus trying to figure it out myself.

[@daebak_hana]

🎯🎯🎯

[@tiffybl00bs99]

Actually, Te doms are ENTJ and ESTJs. INTJs are Ni dominant and Te Auxiliary, you aren't a Te Dom.

[@dxfifa]

INTJs have Fe blindspot so along with ISTJs are the most clueless to social norms and how to create harmony and good emotions. To an IxTJ feelings and norms are so personal they often assume everybody wants to be treated completely individually and therefore project their own personal norms by default (assuming everybody shares their norms until proven otherwise). Thus they do what would make them feel happy and included completely ignoring that Fe users have rules they believe are polite for anyone to follow and high Fi users are also obsessed with their own personal values of politeness that are usually less naive and more thought out comparing values of their own to other Fe and Fi users to get the system better equipped. The only people who really don't care about the IxTJs strange behaviour are the Fe demon types, or people of any type who have all the same ideas of politeness and social skills by coincidence. You'll find the types with low Fe are the worst, but low Se is also huge, and low Fi of the types with no Fe are the "weird and rude types" ISTJ are completely clueless outside of their narrow comfort zone. They're almost always incredibly rude, rigid, impolite and selfish when in a group of people who aren't like them. ESTJ are just as bad. INTJ can be charismatic and clever about seeming interesting, but seeming interested and socially skilled is beyond them. Their Se is a little bit rudimentary but they can sometimes pull off giving others entertainment and engagement, they are socially oblivious though. INFP are completely oblivious to how to play a crowd and entertain and come across as very self centered and unaware of how anyone but themselves feels. Reading the room is almost impossible for them. INTP are also oblivious to their surroundings and how to make others have a good time, but they don't struggle to understand how everyone is feeling, they do struggle a bit to affect it how they would like to though. These are probably those with the worst social skills. ENTJ, ISTP, ENTP, ISFP are better but all struggle a lot in certain situations

[@studioseagraves]

Oh thank u for this!! I’m an INTP and have always felt a bit Unfeminine but I’m glad I have such great analytical + logical skills! Omg I’m always researching astrology + mbti so I can figure people out. I research everything!

[@beritter]

Same 💜

[@TheMisslili8]

I just hope to find ti women friends. Im surrounded by great people i don't relate to. I get exhausted depressed isolate easily

[@cb64]

This video is so spot on it brought me to tears. I'm an INTP woman and I identified with everything you said, the part about shutting down, feeling alienated and misunderstood... wow.

[@user-lx4uk5un7s]

Ti: "Personal framework of logic" Fi: "Internal value system". Both seem to be subjective to themselves, their own knowledge base, frame of reference.

[@freelyrenee3494]

Hahaha!!! I definitely can relate I’m a strong TI but I had to learn to work on my FE and now my journey is to merge or balance the two. OMG you are sooo accurate! 😂 I love it ❤❤❤

[@dreaoca]

Thank you so much for this video. I'm an estp and I've always felt like there was something "wrong" with me because I'm not very feminine or in touch with my feelings.

[@maryoath]

Istp here. Thanks for this!

[@anelisaqase1168]

I love this video. I've struggled with my dominant Ti. People never appreciated my honesty and they still don't, but I love this video it makes me aware of why people misunderstood my honesty as being judgmental. Thank you!

[@DrCherieTypes]

Those who appreciate the truth and your good intentions will appreciate you 🫶

[@pochiskitchen]

I’m gonna cry cause this is so accurate 🥲

[@k8schmate]

already there get me the kleenex

[@cfiocco]

As an infp i am so annoyed with my own type and love and admire ti people. I admire them, i love listening to them, i love their vibe! They truly inspire me :)

[@DrCherieTypes]

Ti appreciation ❤️

[@laurendilaurentis6467]

why are you annoyed?

[@einfachjoe719]

10:32 thats exactly what I experienced.. I learned the hard way to be more myself even when people don’t like I think its better to have fewer to no friends than to adept all the time

[@Macxzz7532]

INTP here and I am at a point where i'm mentally and and emotionally exhausted because of trying to navigate between Ti and Fe and i just can't figure it out. I want to have deep relationships but I feel like I'm doing it wrong. I mostly feel like an alien, observing instead of being in the moment, when i try to develop my Fe, it feels so mechanical so i end up isolating myself, then i regret that. I've been called blunt, cold and aloof but i know that's not me i just don't know how to navigate it. As you said, I have a huge interest in human psychology, personality types, even astrology in a bid to understand people better but it's still a struggle. I'm at a point of just wanting to shut down my Ti and not bother with Fe. This video made me feel less crazy😅, thank you.

[@thisishowitallends9321]

I always loved being different. Being called bossy and bitchy sounds like a praise to me. Would never want to be perceived as nice or sweet. ENTP

[@neuman_adventures]

My x-gf was an ISTP and her "optimization" simplified me as an ENFP, she couldn't handle any of my individual thoughts that didn't fit her template. That makes sense of adopting the values of external resources for a high Ti, with her it was being a radical lefty in politics, whereas my values on politics are flexible and I pick and choose within the left to-right spectrum. I also see that people's personal choices come from systemic issues and she couldn't handle that to the point it seemed she would ignore reality to make sure nothing questioned her way of thinking.

[@DrCherieTypes]

It seems like several things are happening with your ex. 1) Fe Inferior has a binary understanding of values, vs your F dominant capable of understanding nuances. 2) Ne Blindspot struggles to hold paradoxical ideas simultaneously, whilst you can slide comfortably left and right within the political spectrum depending on situation and it still make sense to you. Of course, it doesn’t mean all ISTPs will share your ex’s thinking. But it’ll require the ISTP to broaden their sources of info (Ti), have experiences with a variety of people and situations (Se), in order to open their mind up (improved Ni and Fe). Thanks for sharing

[@neuman_adventures]

@@DrCherieTypes Aww you're are so awesome to expand on this for me as I still struggle a year later losing her. Thank you so much!

[@amyc5912]

I feel like you were talking about me in this episode. I’ve finally been able to figure myself out after watching this and it’s answered so many questions for me.

[@DrCherieTypes]

I’m glad it’s helped you 🙂

[@nicholasblythe7572]

Insightful video. Sadly, Ti dom women have to deal with so much in society. It is a shame. 😔

[@blondy450]

im INTP and I can related to everything you mention thank so much

[@Sleepingwei]

This was so accurate in every way

[@beachbomb]

Yess queen I'm glad i found ur channel 💚💚💚 (Entp Male)

[@arsyoubae5092]

your videos never fail to disappoint. i always leave taking things away

[@alnsubuga]

I'm a female INTJ but so much of this resonated with me, particularly doubling down on or shutting off Fe. It's an interesting lens to view much of my personal development from my teens to mid-40's. Thank you! 🙏🏾

[@CelestialSoular]

I feel this. Thank you for this video. ✨☀️✨

[@CRFSUIGENERIS]

I feel seen! Thank you!

[@katherines144]

I'm an INTP. You're right about the unappreciated bluntness. I work in marketing and I'm really good at it because I research SEO and know what motivates people. Sometimes when I tell others what type of marketing messages and campaigns work, they get so insulted. I find it kind of funny but it holds me back so much in my career because I just can't seem to sugar coat things, especially when I get excited about an idea

[@Melinamiu007]

It doesn’t give you 2:06 an excuse for forgetting the humanity of people. Every marketing woman exec I’ve met are miserable and maybe that’s why they lack humanity and that means you don’t value your own.

[@CDProclaim180]

Wow TI female watching this and never feeling more understood in my life 🤣. When I heard part that says “TI love instructions!” - I almost cried out of joy. I keep telling people “Tell me what you need from me” but often time people think I’m just lazy and don’t want to put in effort on being thoughtful. However, in my head I’m like “but taking the time to do what you want from me is the thoughtfulness” Honestly it’s a never ending circle 😭

[@misumisu1]

I really love your videos❤

[@Lenastar23]

I would not have seen Yu Ling as ESTP- another once to think on- thanks for the video

[@DrCherieTypes]

I must admit Yu Ling was one I did a double take on. My first impression was ESFP, but that quickly didn’t make sense in terms of how others related to her. Then I realised it’s because she doesn’t have Fi.

[@Lenastar23]

@@DrCherieTypes To be fair I wasn't as invested in this season the way I had been in previous seasons- mostly listening in the background. I will rewatch for this purpose specifically :)

[@fleuve4737]

Hello! What you said about Ti women has really resonated with me and the way I approach ppl and situations and especially what you said about Yu Ling's lack of belonging to a group and therefore missing at least part of her identity so I wanted to ask is it ok to not to want to belong or identity with a group (still maintaining group relations tho) and actually want to belong and find more trust in one person and whether or not this might be detrimental?

[@pugninja7037]

Im alistener on a therapy platform.. a infp came to me saying I'm lonely, i was like wtf does she need.. i honestly had no idea

[@gustavofelix4079]

Spot on!

[@totalsaikou4520]

Very insightful! I related quite a bit with this episode since you discussed trying to grapple with lesser feeling functions (mine are reversed as an INTJ, I have low FI and a FE blindspot) as a woman. I can't wait to see what you discuss next!

[@freelyrenee3494]

Thank you for this opportunity to present this information!!! Very well said

[@colorsmith5569]

You were basically describing my boyfriend.

[@spicychai]

Another great video!! I loved this topic.

[@babycakes8514]

TE women are more protected by their FI, they don't need group harmony. As an ESTP, I relate to this on a deep level. Know that being myself will offend people so I dont express myself much or just stick to being nice, but then some people accuse me of not being genuinely nice or of being stand offish!

[@RocioPereyraQuaglia]

not me ending up in this video trying to learn about personalities to mask better ☠️

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

🤯😳 WTF? is my type wrong???? you described me to a T (i'm currently on the 3rd coping mechanism, it's safer here); but....i could've sworn i was an INTJ. i'm so confused.

[@hellaSwankkyToo]

also a big fan of Crissa but don't watch TV so had no idea she was on The Circle. LOL but the thumbnail def caught my attention. LOL BTW, i think you nailed Crissa too. LOL so accurate. + i think she would agree.

[@DrCherieTypes]

I type and define functions very differently from Myers Briggs so that can lead to confusion. INTJ has a lot of similar traits with Ti types, esp ISTP.

[@limxinyi9915]

Thank you

[@mikaelaskalberg3640]

All this fits me well 😁

[@Grace-jb7me]

You say you cant be both but I often come off as blunt and too logical to my family and friends and yet am an ENFP. This video generally sounds like me. There's nothing I dislike more than people not telling me what they need. I still have values but I don't like the guesswork. Maybe Ive changed over the years...who knows

[@heidimdewan7046]

Are you sure you are an ENFP? I ask because the assessment says I’m ENFP, but deep down I’m an ENTP. The two types are close cousins and due to societal expectations women are expected to be F’s. Plus, I’ve heard that we experiment more with our tertiary when we reach maturity and that is often when we discover MBTI, which can lead to incorrect typing.

[@sofiarosario2383]

I'm ENTP and I grew up with my mom saying I was not feminine, and even as a child I always felt that my mom was overly emotional oriented and used to confuse me... also, can you suggest what are the most compatible functions for ENTP/Ti dominant?

[@DrCherieTypes]

Theoretically, the most compatible functions for ENTP (Ne, Ti, Fe, Si) would be your Shadow functions: Ni/Se, Te/Fi. However, working with clients and my own research and observations has taught me that each individual has their own function preferences depending on our own unique upbringing, surrounding culture and life experiences. For example, one ENTP may value F a lot, vs another was brought up to value T - they will therefore feel different chemistry and compatibility with different types. So in reality, we must explore what our own unique preferences are.

[@dsntgtbttr]

I’ve definitely shut off my Ti and Fe 😖

[@DrCherieTypes]

I hope you take encouragement from my video ❤️

[@_VISION.]

I think you may have incorrectly defined Ti and how it works. Sounds like you described Te instead. Ti isn't looking for practicality. It's a reductive thinking process that takes objects, extract for the essential properties and concludes for itself whether that essential property is true or not. It does this by comparing objects against its own method of coherency. Ti doesn't do this for logistical purposes like Te.

[@annepaulinetiu4036]

Yes, this is true. She got Te and Ti confused.

[@DrJamesT]

She differentiated Ti from Te by saying Ti is subjective thinking, implying Te is externally derived. Both Te and Ti, meaning thinking in general, can lead to practical results. I agree with your definition of Ti. The outcome of "comparing objects against its own method of coherency" could result in something practical or logistical. The team that invented Amazon Prime, a practical and logistical example, can't be exclusively Te able. Te seeks truth too, but differently. Once truth is found it will be utilised in the world - the definition of practicality.

[@specks_alot]

Where can we take a test????

[@AmbrogioColetti]

Can I write a comment to just boost your popularity? ok thx

[@DrCherieTypes]

Haha thank you 🙏

[@themoonbleu627]

I’m an Estp this doesn’t apply to me internally I’m masculine thinking but externally very famine and I submit to men with Estp it’s very much how they were raised who we grew up and were conditioned by

[@TheMisslili8]

Ti dom woman married to fi dom men. I dont know what im doing

[@Heezbungus]

Fr

[@elizadeburgh2442]

I'm ENFJ in Myer Briggs but I got SE - TI - FE - NI for this. Hmmmmm

[@pizzamassacre]

As an INTP I resonate with a lot of what you said 😁

[@seacrest73]

I think I met someone like that who had shut down. She was just abrasive. And she straight up told me she hated ppl like me. 🥲 I was like naive and bubbly and open. It wasn't until she bullied me into crying that she stopped being agro with me.

[@seacrest73]

@@calmingbabysleep1256 I think so. And the fact I didn't then respond in like. Like she showed me her ugliest meanest self and I still didn't dislike or hate her. I still wanted to be cordial and friendly. And I think that softened her.

[@barbarabuttler7647]

I'm sorry you were bullied! Stay bubbly and open; as an ENTP, I love bubbly, open people.❤