Can ESTP Women Be Happy? | CS Joseph Responds

[@roseindecember]

My estp best friend is alot like how you described, men find her very desirable, probably gets treated as the most attractive woman ive seen in real time yet she often complains to me that none of them bother to get to know the real her. They’re inlove with this sweet illusion when in reality shes very masculine and headstrong

[@wattle2394]

To the contrary, pretty sure estp women are very attractive to men. The masculine part is on the inside, especially in the thinking. On the outside is fitness, grooming, and whatever else gets us by. And being thinkers, we found out early on to dance and stretch and ski andwalk the dogs - activities which support the best of figures. True - we like food. I agree that a balance of fem and masc provides best results.

[@JusticeLeanne717]

Yeas this is what I here all the time. They are very charismatic

[@insideanorca]

My sister is an ESTP and from us three sisters she is the one who looks the least like what the common beauty standard is (she looks good though just that we are those blond typical dolls and she is more sporty type) and all of her boyfriends until this point were extremely good-looking hot hipster dudes, really the type of guys the girls go after and they were all really in love with her and she left them all. So from my experience, I can't confirm ESTP women are unattractive to men. She is with ISFP now, he adores her. Rest of what you said: absolutely spot on. This is exactly what happened with my sister. You know ESTPs very well!

[@gabi_hart]

Maybe I'm just an unhealthy estp or something because this hurt me alot. I guess I have to deal with men absolutely hating me and finding me so ugly that they compare me to there fellow man. Maybe I should just die young considering I might never have a husband and I would never have children. What's the point in living if I'm never going to be happy. No matter what I do I'll always be lonely because not only am I super masculine but I'm 6'1, have big shoulders and I have locs. I guess that's why the only time I ever had sex in my life was when someone in my own family raped me. It doesn't even matter that I'm extremely kind, I care about others, I put others first, I don't want to have to lead a man because I get tired of it, I buy gifts, I want to make people smile, I love fashion, and I'm learning how to do makeup and to like makeup slowly, and on top of all that I want to learn from men and women alike. I find a man super attractive when he is smarter than I am because I want to learn from him. The right man makes me clean up my act and makes me want to be feminine. I would try to look as perfect as I can just to get a look from him or a smile. I also don't want to be married to my career but I am working on it to have something I bring to the table.

[@malakashraf2801]

i love to see your notification , man , the most enjoyable content , post everyday .

[@Lenaa923]

My problem in relationships has been the opposite which was detachment. I'd never tried to make a man dependent on me. In fact, I cringe at such a thought. I believe, culture and lifestyle should be considered in the ESTP.

[@savannahlee6899]

i actively seek out fulfilling relationships but get afraid of commitment to potentially clingy and needy people. i used to be obsessed with controlling how people viewed me and used to sneakily manipulate to get things my way. I was kind of traumatised by my past consecutive friendships with 2 ISFJs who were always passive aggressive, boring, needy and hypersensitive and now am afraid of getting too close. I might be an ESTP female according to your type grid but don't know yet. For the longest time I thought I was an ENTP. I was kind of ashamed of my masculinity and tried to hide it from the world after those ISFJs passive aggressively told me how to act to fit social norms. Never going to get into a relationship with an ISFJ again, terrible waste of time.

[@kimngandong]

As an ESTP woman, I have experienced hatred and gossip the most with xSFJ and xSTJ women. They belong to the Guardian group, which adhere and protect traditions in society. Therefore, they always have problem with unconventional people, especially us ESTP tomboys. Even when I dress and act femininely, they still seem to find faults in me. I can't never please them. SFJ and STJ are extremely judgmental and overbearing imo, both men and women.

[@Samwise108]

Hi Chase, I don't mean to be pedantic, but I know you are someone who takes definitions and word choice seriously. As such I want to point out that 'jealousy' is reserved for situations in which a person is uncomfortable with sharing something they have or are afraid they might lose something they possess. Like a starting QB might be jealous of the backup if the coach sits the starter for a game and plays the backup. Or a man might feel jealous if he knows his wife works with an attractive friendly guy. 'Envy' is the word for when a person wishes they had something that someone else has.

[@CSJoseph]

Jealousy is an aspect of lust. Lust is technically wanting what others have, so colloquially it’s not too much of a stretch.

[@billySquanto]

@@CSJoseph I could already hear Chase say "uhm.. actually.."

[@aladdout9454]

@@CSJoseph ehhh no? jealousy is a product of lust and pretty situational, yes true. Jealousy is its own thing that can be a product of envy, lust, ...greed and pride even. But lust is not jealousy itself.

[@nataliestoppard4431]

Not really recognising myself here? Yes I'm extremely 'masculine', but I've rarely been 'off the market' since I was 18. I was married a good length of time (but you are right about respinding to positive feedback, which is how my husband manipulated me so comprehensively). I'm always loyal in relationships. I'm great with money - we are the entrepeneurs, after all! I love commerce, making a deal. My bodycount doesn't even come up, I find men dont even want to talk about it.

[@David_Robert]

Hello 👋 How are you doing today??

[@themoonbleu627]

Same I’ve only been single 6 months of my life I actually forced it bc I wanted to be alone and work more on loving me after I left my first husband now I’m married again

[@feliciaspeaks8663]

My mom is a ESTP and she does having a spending problem 😅 she is so disrespectful and acts ratchet. She is a single mom. She actually knows how to dress but she sometimes projects her shadow and wears hideous boring clothes. My mom thinks everyone is guilty and makes up weird scenarios of how someone is depraved. My mom pushes me to be independent more than her which causes me to have a self fulfilling prophecy. She is controlling to the point she never let me do anything and takes my freedom away. I wish she was openminded enough to watch this video. She is a great mom though.

[@oncetimeupon]

She sounds more like an ESTJ to me...

[@martasw8885]

great content, thank you

[@seabird3896]

Can confirm, working on my femininity as an ESTP woman has been one of the best things I've done for myself, and others. Being feminine doesn't come naturally to me, and it's literally my Ti being all like "If I'm not told how am I to know?" and i wanna slap myself for it sometimes 😂 After studying the Law of Polarity and understanding why men find women attractive to begin with, I totally see why in my past men haven't genuinely been attracted to me (I wasn't willing to receive help, I wasn't particularly warm or open or willing to submit - things I've changed since then. The way I understand you saying men aren't attracted to ESTP women is because of these things, as physical attraction is a different thing.) Ever since focusing on developing my feminine energy, there have been very good changes in the way people interact with me (more genuine connections with my female friends, and actual attraction from men). I still absolutely value chastity though and won't bend even when I'm shamed by other women for not being sexually active (which happens nearly every time another woman finds out I do value chastity,,, which is silly, women why do you do this? 🤡). I'm glad I'm on the right track after watching this video! Thanks Chase 😊

[@giuseppelorisnuzzo2840]

Let's talk about how hard infp men have It aswell(?)

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

INxP in general...

[@matteoadel3717]

@@jhinthevirtuoso4886 maybe NP men

[@李穹歌]

I’m an estp woman. I have struggled with my relationship so I came here to look for answers. I shared the part of video where you discussed how to be desirable with my infp friend. She said she had a similar observation on me but didn’t know how to put them into words properly until this video. We talked and I learned a lot. Thank you for this video. It enlightened me.

[@jt_rooster3228]

14:00 welcome to the world where The 9 to 5 Pyramid Scheme has become the new low hanging fruit.

[@nourelhouda2628]

Meh, every type has it rough.

[@themoonbleu627]

Wow, I’m sorry I made so many comments but this is like explaining my life and I’m at a point in my life where this is so valuable to me. I grew up in a very religious family and I listen to my family and I stayed married because they forced me to, and all the stuff that I rebelled against I see it truly was best for me like in my family. I’m just taught that you’re supposed to submit to a man I’ve just been raised that way you know my accomplishments mean nothing like all of this masculine energy in me up always had to suppress so I guess instead of rebelling and being angry at my family. I need to start embracing more what they taught me and just stay in that role. The only thing is I don’t know how I’m going to get this energy out of me this very ambitious kind of like liter energy without it being seen basically because it’s going to come off too masculine like even the guy I am married to now he doesn’t want me to work, and I make more money than him way more money than him and I work remotely so it’s like effortlessly that I’m making more money than him and I have more education to him now and my family they don’t care. They’re just happy that I was married and he likes that.

[@ashuranero5721]

What exactly do you do for work?

[@themoonbleu627]

Most of my career was as a child care center director now I’m a recruiter

[@malakashraf2801]

I relate - istp

[@irmavanguard4097]

I like how your rexent videos have a lot touch of fit and fresh mentality

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Chastity is a virtue that never grows old.

[@themoonbleu627]

Wow this explains so much for me this is why I can’t “be myself “ in any relationship with a man I have to hide who I am I never been in love which I don’t even know if that is actually real … yikes sad truth

[@nemesis27]

Get with Si users men

[@mlghs8771]

I don’t agree with the reasons you line up for why we do what we do! Or that we say everyone was doing it so I have the green light to do it as well! You got the Intentions off!

[@themoonbleu627]

Can you make a video on ways to improve as an Estp woman I’m now grateful for growing up in my traditional religious family or wow I would be screwed according to this video . … I basically hide my personality until they are locked in that’s probably why I have no issue getting and keeping my ex ESFJ and I’ll see about the Istj we got into a fight and I never called him he never called me but we are married but I feel nothing …

[@jaredvaughan1665]

A better background than the electronic one.

[@Rubycella]

This is actually super true- estp

[@mackennawilson]

I fear commitment. I've never been in a relationship and I'm afraid to choose my man. I've liked many guys till now. As a kid I was into a guy 7 yrs older than me but my heart broke after I heard he's been with many women before. He's also unethical. I thought I'd spend the rest of my life with him but now I feel like I'm loveless. I fear I might change my mind and fall out of love. I'm sort of sapiosexual.

[@CSJoseph]

You sound entitled

[@CSJoseph]

Join our women’s group on discord and get help with being feminine

[@gabi_hart]

​@@CSJoseph Wow. Dude this is the exact thing you said about women. You said if a women has been with many men her value goes down but now if a women doesn't like the fact that a man has been with many other women she is now entitled and needs to be coached in being feminine? Are you serious?

[@t-man5196]

Why do ESTPs feel soulless?

[@nourelhouda2628]

Fi trickster

[@ryanqin893]

when alone and around unfriendly and impolite people

[@t-man5196]

@@nourelhouda2628 can you elaborate?

[@syahrulshiddiq9733]

@@t-man5196 Fi trickster means weak Fi function, Fi is the function that makes one recognise how oneself currently/truly feels. So weak Fi makes someone struggle to recognise his/her own feeling. But Fi-trickster types have Fe as its child, so while ESTP/ENTP struggle to recognise their own feeling, they are quite capable to feel by feeling how other people currently feel. They feel trough empathy. They feel by copying how other people feel, that's why the thumbnail says 'everyone else is doing it, it must be okay' But because of this, they may be felt a bit fake at times, maybe that's why you feel that ESTPs feel soulless

[@t-man5196]

@@syahrulshiddiq9733 I don't feel that they feel soulless, it's just something CS Joseph said in the video

[@kgizzla]

Love the estp videos!

[@Orspark]

At 1.5x you sound like Jim Carrey in “the mask” 😂 especially at the end. The annoyance of stating the obvious kind of tone (Ti parent) but still humorous in a dark way. Ooohoho fun 👹

[@themoonbleu627]

Estp woman very desired by many men but it is hard to find the right one .,. I was married to an ESFJ male for 14 years and now married to a Istj and already want out I grew up surrounded by INTJs religious and education driven people who brainwashed me into thinking I need and must submit to A man which conflicts with who I naturally am to the point when I enter meyers Briggs study groups they accuse me of being an ENTJ …

[@themoonbleu627]

Oh and SJs

[@MrEvldreamr]

Maybe you are a entj?

[@themoonbleu627]

@@MrEvldreamr no I’m not lol my best friend and brother are major difference money and power is not my motivation I enjoy working but not like the ENTJ

[@nourelhouda2628]

Weirdly ESTP women are very attractive to men in the middle east. Generally masculine women are more attractive to them weirdly. Perhaps because men here are feminine?

[@MrEvldreamr]

American men are feminine compared to middle eastern men. I assume middle eastern men prob are used to feminine women and just like the IDEA of taming a masculine chick

[@themoonbleu627]

I find I end up with men people say are simps as an Estp I would say weak men with low self worth they usually allow me to walk all over them I have done a lot of growing no longer that way

[@wattle2394]

We're the most beautiful women everywhere. 😊 I mean Chase's cousin is just one person.

[@nourelhouda2628]

@@wattle2394 true, yall about hair makeup and looks

[@malakashraf2801]

Where did you get that from , not at all , and most men are masculine

[@MrEvldreamr]

None of this describes me at all. Aside from being angry that i have to be mom to my spouse. Also youre making alot of assumptions.... the only women who view all men like trash are women who dont have fathers and are the result of single parenting themselves. Ive always found estps to be very rational, not irrational and emotional.

[@CSJoseph]

You aren’t an ESTP then?

[@sunsetjesus4719]

A lot of women with fathers view all men like trash. It's more complicated than that

[@MrEvldreamr]

@@CSJoseph nah, i am unfortunately. Let me begin w where I agree w you in this video: The feeling like mom to your spouse thing is absolutely true, i would also agree w the being "career driven" part... AKA supermom or whatever other analogies apply to SIW stereotypes (strong independent women) Yes we are masculine types, theres no denying that, which drives us to succeed professionally. But where i think youre missing a crucial piece is this depends on your upbringing and what values were instilled, being driven to succeed doesnt just apply to work it applies to family as well and other life arenas we deem especially important. What youre missing is that any woman whose been raised traditionally in a 2parent home will generally pursue success in their homelife over success in our careers. Modern society today doesnt live by tradition which may be why youre assuming estp females (or any masculine type females) cannot make relationships work, yet in our home country this doesnt seem to be an issue bc traditional values and nuclear families are still a thing. So even masculine women can hold a man and her family down, she'll be tough as nails and probably the main disciplinary, but you dont see broken homes like you do in the states. So what youre missing is the childhood component which drives the success rate of relationships. Broken families will ruin any female/male regardless of personality type

[@davidpapojr8531]

im fucking amazing at it

[@Brickwilliams]

id be interested to see a ranking video about who has it the hardest in society for each gender. maybe it already exists idk

[@isabelledinneweth]

🤔 hmm . It seems like I have tha same problem ,but the other way around . And yet different .

[@davidpapojr8531]

yes im a 7 i run from pain

[@rhythmsharma4561]

Please make an ENFJ video... I've been waiting for months now

[@CSJoseph]

Please become an acolyte member and ask me to make one csjoseph.life/members upgrade from journeyman

[@jaredvaughan1665]

As an INTP I dislike women wearing makeup. Is that an Se trickster thing?

[@jhinthevirtuoso4886]

No we want authenticity. it's inferior FE making a judgement not our trickster. I also like intelligence, most girls with too much make up lack in that department.

[@malakashraf2801]

i relate

[@davidpapojr8531]

this is the best estp vid u made its a shame u only address it to woman.

[@marythompson2095]

whats up with your new demonic intro

[@jaredvaughan1665]

THE BEST REDPILL BOOK OF ALL TIME IS SHAKESPEARE'S "TAMING OF THE SCHREW." This book explains how to handle masculine and disrespectful women. And its not being the nice guy.

[@mayhawthorn5092]

wow

[@suzieeheng4666]

Okay (´-ω-`)

[@JusticeLeanne717]

You don’t sound like a good fit for her at all. Doesn’t seem like you are aware of (or willing to verbalize) her strengths … and that you rarely give her grace (i.e., allow her to be dependent on you from time to time)! Wow She is so strong for sticking it out with you. Phew … you are toxic. Manipulating her for sexual tension! If you are watching this - run!!

[@JusticeLeanne717]

Dang !! You definitely got screwed by an ESTP woman! This is so negatively biased. By the way- do you know there are ESTP women who marry as a virgin (in their mid twenties)? Who haven’t ever been pumped and dumped ? Or hurt/abused in a past relationship by a guy ? Watch the amount of time you say “all” maybe some.. maybe the ones you knew, but definitely not all.