Written By Idiots Who Don’t Care

[@Theleasinoz]

Great work John, keep it going. We just cancelled our licence, as so many have done so lately. The BBC is biased and wasteful. They must be defunded.

[@JJONNYREPP]

Written By Idiots Who Don’t Care 1222pm 6.11.23 i think our mate, john, works for tv licence team. probably trynna garner how they, the masses, really feel... just once!!!! they take notice of what someone is trynna impart as opposed to reeling off a pre-conceived script... i have only had one person listen to my concerns - and she seemed to be middle aged and well versed in the idiocies of the facelessness of plutocracy/ panocracy/ bureaucracy.... what a fookin joke. the undue stress is not welcomed. ummmmmmmmmmm...

[@harry2.01]

If you have just cancelled, make sure you apply for any refund due. You pay six months in advance on a yearly payment.

[@JJONNYREPP]

@@harry2.01 Written By Idiots Who Don’t Care 1602pm 6.11.23 i didnt cancel my tv licence payment plan.. i was waiting to acquire the funds to begin paying the 2024/25 tv licence. as i have paid this year's tv licence (2023/24) i dont see why these guy are so prissy and stuck up their ass - seeing as it' sonly november and my licence begins next year...... though, again, conversing with Ai is gonna make it seem that way.. i suggest they seek out more willing candidates for Ai experimentation/interaction...... i certainly aint a fan...

[@nigeloverton1487]

why hasn't the monopolies commission looked into this ,the bbc has the monopoly on live tv

[@chrisbuxton1958]

Always remember: when the goon calls, say nothing, don’t disclose your name, and never sign anything.

[@zog97xy]

Just slam the door or don't answer at all!

[@englishciderlover7347]

@@zog97xy If I'm not expecting visitors, I don't answer the door.

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

@@englishciderlover7347 Same here, and I haff vays to check and see who iss at ze door.

[@sonofmuttley3755]

Ditched my license during the first lockdown. Declared myself as not requiring, very easy to do. Had letter after two years giving me the opportunity to renew, just declared again, even easier .

[@vanessawilkie6887]

Love a new letter review! Just received the one with the window shaming me to my postie that I'm being investigated 😂 Thanks to you I have no fear, I don't watch anything I shouldn't and know what to do if they knock. Love your channels, thank you.

[@JASON-rq5gl]

Don't worry about the postie thinking your bad or anything. I'm a postman and I'm delivering hundreds of these BBC threatening letters on my delivery every week in sheffield to residential address, shops, business, student accommodations ect, you wouldn't believe how many people have cancelled, and more and more are cancelling. Also all my colleagues are delivering hundreds of these letters and we are just getting pissed off with them. I cancelled my tv licence just over 2 years ago just like some others at my work, I just watch on demand from netflix, amazon ect, and now I get a threatening letter from TV licencing every month so I know what everyone of these letters looks like. Watching live tv is an out of date idea, why should you plan your life around not been able to go out because you might miss something that's on live, catch up tv is the modern way of watching now. When I receive a letter I open it up and look at what it says and laugh and put it in the bin, you are not legally required to reply to them, and the same goes if they do come to your door, just say sorry I'm not interested in watching live TV anymore or any BBC products thank you and then shut the door.

[@alanjones9101]

I've had another one of them as well. Went straight into recycle 😁

[@Tom-ws2zx]

John, I’ve watched all of your videos for a few years now, and I must say you’ve done absolutely brilliant. You’re very relatable with everything and agree with pretty much everything you’ve discussed on the TV Licencing etc. Always look forward to your “hi, it’s me again” introductions too!

[@user-zu6qn9ux9n]

I got the same letter on Friday. In the fire it goes 😂

[@janetpigram3615]

Ive received another informing my post man we dont have a tv licence. When i stopped it it did it on line and received a reply but the letters still keep coming. Ive saved them all as PROOF OF HARASSMENT

[@stephenwhite345]

The other channels don't want competition for the advertisers pound notes, that's why they keep stum, presumably if the licence goes, the BBC would be after a slice of the cake

[@scottshaw3835]

These mupppets are comedy gold! Nice vid Jon exposing these desperate idiots.

[@russellh9113]

The other broadcasters probably do not complain as if the bbc showed adverts they would have competition for ad money. Love your content john.

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

I can’t wait to see what marvellous Christmas and New Year programmes they won’t be showing.

[@j0hnf_uk]

Another, 'extravaganza', of mediocre soaps, reality z-list celebrities strictly on ice and some Irish bloke in a wig saying, 'feck', in every other sentence that we're supposed to find amusing, no doubt.

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

@@j0hnf_uk And a James Bond film we all saw twice already last time, and that was long ago.

[@monkeybrains]

Dr who special woke edition

[@samsungcrossland2036]

I got another letter this week 😅 and even got a knock at door 🚪 but left car running it was that quick 😮 and I didn't open door

[@MikeEves]

Report the goon, section 42 RTA 1988

[@rayro999]

That is very similar to the letter I got end of October also signed by the ficticious Ms Garwood. I cancelled in March and the previous licence ran to end of September. I phoned up in March and they said I was due a refund but I was so p!ssed off with them I politely said 'I don't require a refund, send it to Lineker he obviously needs the cash'. I will now follow your advice, be polite if they knock the door and say 'no thanks' as i close the door.

[@rongates7311]

Buy a TV licence that means you can watch and listen to there lies

[@hi-tech55]

They should do more to make the BBC less controversial. The likes of Lineker and chums are haemorrhaging the corporation millions with their offensive views that many don't like. They waste our money hand over fist, hence having to write this kind of a garbage letter.

[@shallowfakes593]

we need to get just stop oil to protest this utter waste of paper, not to mention the energy used to get these letters to the houses!!

[@andreashaynes3346]

Great video Jon. I think you summed it in the title of your post!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@KarrierBag]

I live on a boat and due to an accident |I am unable to drive to my yard, which is my address, I always have loads of these letters, they are just so silly, i invited them a few years ago to come and take a look, they arrived, looked at the vehicles in the yard (all circus trucks) said, oh it is ok and left...... they not been back..... yet

[@darren7969]

I had the same letter, Bined Thanks m8 for yor advice .thay said my TV licence was coming to the end ,? I cancelled it 3 months ago 😂

[@petermach8635]

Be aware that unique textual identifiers can be inserted into letters ...... especially the name that letters arre "signed by", in order to track non-payers down.

[@marylauder3374]

You mean ready to show repeats over Christmas from 50 years ago! Stop paying extortionate salaries to muppets.

[@sharonwashington8150]

Defund it. There is NO value for money here. It will die out eventually all bad things do!

[@danielyoung_]

The people crafting these letters are not idiots, they know exactly what they're doing. Installing TV receving equipment for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of watching or recording Live TV is an offence, but that is not what the letter said, as it left the other half of that out. It's obviously very VERY dodgy wording, they are very intentionally framing and leaving out as much information as they can to make as many sales as possible. Totally misleading, and it makes me wonder what regulatory body, if any, keeps TV licensing accountable

[@j0hnf_uk]

They've taken a leaf out of the BBC's book by being extremely economical with the truth, hoping there's enough people who are unwise or gullible to their tactics who'll immediately sign-up through fear that if they don't, they'll somehow, 'get into trouble', for daring to own equipment that's capable of receiving live broadcasts, despite not their being no evidence that they're actually using it for that purpose.

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

I wonder, trades description act or similar?

[@steamhammer2k]

I am surprised that they do not want more money for businesses, like the banks and telecom`s

[@zog97xy]

I'm jealous! they sent me one of the old ones!

[@johnblack6161]

Ive had that many letters ,i got 1 the other day and never bothered opening it i just chucked it in the recycling bin, its probably the same as yours ,but i dont care what it says nothing to do with me,i dont watch their crap.

[@KarrierBag]

9:02 toilet paper? Would you really wipe ya ar$e with that Rubbish? I very much doubt it, you would end up in more of a mess than the BBC 🤣

[@breakit46]

Be like Izal bog roll from years ago, like tracing paper, you had to have faith wiping with that.

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

RC school?

[@johngilbert572]

The other channels are worried about the amount of adverts being thinned down by the bbc entering the competition pool, it's cheaper to keep them out

[@jezzdavis9059]

Just got the launched investigation one... good luck in my high-rise 😂

[@MikeEves]

I'm on my 40th investigation, none of the other were ever closed.🤣

[@louiswilliamterminator2887]

Hopefully they won't be able to catch you with their detector van😂

[@usertl2235]

Thanks. Just received similar renew letter. But will cancel my licence. I was thinking you need pay licence fee for owning a TV. I am wrong! Cannot remember when I last watched “live” TV.

[@derektaylor7844]

Actually owning a TV as long as not used to view live programmes does not need a licence , you can legally view DVD , Blue Ray , on demand catch up programmes that you view at a time to suit you , or use as a computer monitor legally without a licence ,The main offence , the one most prosecuted is the section of the law that is If you install or cause to be installed any device as a TV receiver with the intention to view or allow other to view live TV without a licence you are committing a criminal offence , Currently around 2000 cases a week are being held , most charged with that section is the Act , and it’s the section most state is wrong ,

[@usertl2235]

Intention is an interesting word. A group of people intended and acted to block Motoways, and nothing happened to them. Many people intended and acted to demonstrate on London streets to show supports to another group of people who did enter another country and massacred innocent people, and nothing happened to them. And BBC is kindly to avoid to use "te......s" to describ that group, intended to ingore the facts. But just by assuming someone intend to watch TV, they will be threatened officially. Is this ridiculous?

[@derektaylor7844]

⁠​⁠@@usertl2235agreed , and in most case so do the courts,

[@jonwyatt3694]

​@@derektaylor7844 ". . 2,000 cases are a week being held . ." What does this mean? Being held? By who? Where? Link please. Or state a verifiable source.

[@robburrows2737]

I operate a black hole policy. I received two letters. It was apparent who they were from by the timing and envelopes, I did not open either as I don't want their propaganda in my head.

[@valkyriedd5849]

Happy bonfire night everyone.

[@personalcheeses8073]

Surely if you have a tv licence for your home. You can watch whatever you want on your personal device anywhere.

[@derektaylor7844]

If battery powered and not connected to mains supply , yes

[@laceandwhisky]

So wish chilliejoncarne would be invited to talking pints with nigel farage on GB news 😊

[@Andy-lw5xk]

Careful they don't use the persons name who signed it as a traceable code to catch you, like a reference number. Great work, keep it up!

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

Nah, our Jackie Garswood's name is all over the net, and it is not polite. I suspect that it's a fake name. For 'her' safety it should be!

[@TamRoo75]

Great video again Jon! That really was quite a bizzare & poorly drafted letter huh, so maybe I'm just more paranoid 😂 but I wonder if they were trying to identify someone, they would send one off letters that sort of act like the reference numbers!! Not sure if knowing who you are matters with no proof of wrongdoing, but I wouldn't put this sht past them...

[@monkeybrains]

Keep up the good work.

[@Larry1000]

What if one of the goons comes in to your work and catches a visitor on their phone watching live TV, and they don't have a TV licence at their home ,and the visitor assumes that the work has got a license?

[@ianherd569]

I have not enjoyed live TV for many years.

[@steveross8364]

Question: What does your device drawing electrical power from a power outlet have to do with your right (or not) to watch TV programs on your wireless mobile device? Question: If an employee is covered by their HOME TV license at work, why then isn't the business covered by the OWNER'S HOME TV license?

[@monkeybrains]

Its just the way the law is

[@jackiehenderson9781]

The blackbelt barrister has different info about the TV licence letters, check it out...😮

[@johncostello3174]

2:15 Dear Sir / Madam / Doctor/ Professor / Lord. Two days ago when I applied online for a nectar card I used the prefix 'Lord' so that any letters are addressed to Lord John Costello and hopefully that will be on my nectar card. XD

[@breakit46]

The bbc will be proper nutted when millions more of us choose not to pay anymore. Even when I did pay online with the tv license card the wording they used was forceful and quite rude, pay x amount immediately in red etc. I don’t worry and I don’t miss bbc or tv at all, it is ancient history and obsolete.

[@davidhaslett9777]

A business will get a different threatogram.

[@oldfatbastad6053]

Legally TV License Free Since 2007.

[@keithdenton8386]

Soon they will say 1.8 pence per hour to make it sound cheep

[@jackwaycombe]

That other broadcasters, presumably with the finances to pay a few lawyers, don't legally challenge the BBC/Crapitas protection racket, is one of the biggest mysteries in this entire discussion.

[@derektaylor7844]

They would not be challenging the BBC or Capita , The licence conditions are laid down by law , not the BBC , the challenge would be be to the Secretary of State at the Department of of Media , Culture and Sport , the government department responsible for the relevant act controlling and regulating the TV licence ,,

[@gerrimilner9448]

its protection money,

[@kienhwengtai8113]

UK TV license isn't going away, because it would require the UK government to actually allocate money from taxes for the BBC.

[@Kingcarparpeggio]

Well if they’re not going to do that and we don’t pay our licences then the British Bullshitting Corporation will go bust…..it’s a win win situation. 👍👍

[@necropink9200]

No channels are free to view if you have to pay the bbc to watch them.

[@glassowlie]

They are starting to add BBC Reith Sans into the letters. Also this looks like a new letter design.

[@grahamcook9289]

OMG, not Call Out, but CHALLENGE!!!!!!!!

[@barukkazhad8998]

I look forward to my letters...alwas makes me smile that they waste money and time on me

[@peterallen2904]

Well, Chilli, perhaps you are the one who has the tenacity to pursue the other TV companies into complaining about the BBC getting all the cash.

[@shearali3048]

outsourced all done on the cheap

[@clawrence6190]

Ok then BBC, bring back proper non-woke, non-political, non-propaganda real entertainment like Morecambe & Wise, The Good Life, Sunday Night at the London Palladium, Val Doonican, Roger Whittaker, Matt Monroe, Dad's Army, feel good tv .... etc etc. No? No tv licence for me then, it is not required.

[@andylornastuff]

Jesus wept. Some people say the BBCs output is mediocre or poor now, but you've just given a load of examples of how dire it was in the past. Nobody under the age of about 50 would want any of those shows back or anything like them. Keep that stuff on Gold and Britbox. I'd give Dad's Army a general pass, but there's a lot of filler in between a few gems of episodes.

[@daz222]

What if you had a TV screen that someone cast/mirrored their phone that wasn't plugged in to it, to show the news on from BBC or other shows etc?! Or even, the TV was a 12V battery powered TV like in a caravan, owned by a staff member, so even that wasn't plugged in....... Can we see a video in the future for a fully legal office/business setup?! 😁

[@crabby7668]

Iirc channel 4 and 5 get subs out of the licence fee as well. That, if still true, is criminal because they do get revenue from adverts.

[@derektaylor7844]

The only TV providers that get any of the TV licence fee are BBC 86% and some to the Welsh channel S4C , a small amount if also available to part fund local TV stations ,

[@neilgoodall1768]

We have had the initial letter. Got a plan if they visit. Our South African Mastiff can get from the door to the gate in under 2 seconds. Can they 😂😂

[@kevinpotts9583]

i see the bbc pension pot is 1.7 billion out and they want £70 off each customer 🤣🤣

[@londonerwalks]

"Dear sir/madam"? I would write back and make an official complaint that the BBC have "misgendered" you and/or not referring to your correct pronoun. That would tie them up in knots!

[@EpicGamingWithMorons]

Can i ask my uncle had visit and his front room window was open a little the guy peaked in was it allowed to? Just saying the guy peeping in scared the hell out of him while he was listening and watching songs on youtube.

[@derektaylor7844]

No , any so called evidence could be considered as obtained through illegal search , also could lead to charges if children present , You Tube apart from its live news does not require a licence to view , There would be be little point unfortunately in complaining as would almost certainly deny and unless on camera you would have difficulty proving , They really should read their training manual.

[@EpicGamingWithMorons]

@@derektaylor7844 I appreciate this info as the hounding over this has been a nightmare for him.

[@raychambers3646]

Be nice to know how much Jackie gets from the licence fee.

[@frankbrodie5168]

It's a truly bizarre situation that the TVL exists in the current age. The word 'anachronism' doesn't even do it justice. It's actually a proper unjustifiable extortion of the poor and vunerable. Because no wealthy person cares about paying £159/year. In fact, that might just be the way to get it removed. Make it a sliding scale payment so that the wealthy pay more TVL. And stand back and watch it be abolished faster than you can say "HOW DARE YOU!" Because if there's one thing rich people don't like, it's spending money.

[@johncostello3174]

2:15 Why not just use 'Dear whatever' or "Dear Thingy'

[@colinreece3452]

As for the other channels, I've said this a few times on your videos, why are they saying nothing? Why don't they approach the BBC and say 'We want a share of the licence fee money you are telling ppl they need to pay to watch OUR channels.'

[@user-yl1xy5eg7b]

As long as it's not plugged in (tablet, mobile phone)? Power bank: sorted! The BBC is dying on its feet. [Edit] I can tentatively confirm that Jackie Garswood is probably a real person, and even has entries in well known professional fora. I won't use my facilities to track her down, though I could. However, I can confirm that her name is connected with a good deal of angry online debate. If she is using her real name she might want to change it or move to a new, less controversial job, because she sticks out like a spare wotsit at a wossername's wedding. (As the actress said to the bishop.)

[@casper1240]

The Threat letters are just getting more Farcical , there just Laughable now

[@MikeEves]

Absolutely. They are not even part of the legislation. The BBC made it all up.

[@WallyPyneoil]

Asymmetric national devolution and we need a BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation? Oh my goodness!

[@crabby7668]

What is the situation for those who are on virgin or sky.? Presumably these companies have already paid the BBC for the programmes that they show on their channel. So are you paying twice for BBC use if you have to pay for a licence?

[@derektaylor7844]

The licence is classed as a permit to view any live channels irrespective of the provider , unfair but we stuck with it till a least 2018 ,

[@micksmixxx]

@@derektaylor7844 Are you a time traveller, mate, or did your finger slip when it came to typing in the year? 😉😆

[@seeleeuk168]

The most stupid thing in that letter is; anyone can watch live on their device at the office if they have a license at home but as long as it's not plugged into the mains electricity on the premises. What in the world? What difference does it make whether it's plugged in or not? Do the B-BS-C have rights over electricity suppliers? I don't think so.

[@dp-ux8vi]

Hands up all those who still think smart meters are here to save us money

[@seeleeuk168]

@@dp-ux8vi hu? What's that got to do with the TV license, or my comment?

[@andylornastuff]

It's because actual TVs need to be plugged into the mains. So imagine if you own a second home, a holiday property etc. it's worded so that if you have a TV in there, you'll need a 2nd licence. A device that can run without being plugged into the mains covers more temporary methods of viewing, such as on a laptop or tablet, meaning you're legally covered if you have a licence at home but use such devices to watch TV while you're away. I think that's the crux of it, it ensures that people who rent out holiday properties or own second homes must pay for a licence for that property as well as their own if they are going to have a regular TV in there for their use or the use of people staying in the property. There was a time not long ago when it was 50/50 as to whether or not a holiday cottage would have a TV in! I had a lovely stay in the Yorkshire Dales back in the early 90s in a lovely cottage with no TV, just a radio. And it wasn't the last time it happened either.

[@louiswilliamterminator2887]

It's part of the scam

[@totherarf]

"This applies to any device you use" ........ So that means that if you as a license payer come to my house you can turn my TV to BBC and we can watch it together? If you leave the TV on as you leave does this mean they won't have a problem with me still watching it as I never turned it on? From this letter it would seem so!

[@derektaylor7844]

No the licence is for the address on the licence , If you install or cause to be installed any device as a TV receiver with the intent of viewing or allowing others to view live content without a licence you are committing an offence , So no any one with a licence visiting cannot legally view live TV even if licensed at their home ,

[@totherarf]

@@derektaylor7844 I agree with you .... but that is not what the letter says!

[@Simonsimon-fy3hq]

Topic for your next video. "BBC spend £1.7bn to top up pensions for ex-employees" Discuss.

[@necropink9200]

If you used this letter as toilet paper more shit would come off the page.

[@stephenlaw9886]

How could we do without Stayte, muncheti,gary lineker? Answer, cancel you’re subscription

[@stephenlittle7534]

How's this 😂😂😂😂 If you are in court. And are find. Ask the judge for the find to be divided into the other TV companies as well. If the licence is for all TV channels then. And see were that goes. 😂😂😂😂😂. THATS THE PROOF IF ITS CORRECT. THE JUDGE HAS TO SAY YES. 😅😅😅😅😅

[@derektaylor7844]

Wrong on so many levels, The licence is a permit to view live channels , the fine does not go to the BBC , they can and do claim cost ,

[@seajem2]

It should have been defunded years ago its total crap

[@lluke18]

The other channels arnt saying anything they don’t wanna loose adds to bbc

[@martinlouden9005]

Do all the transmitters belong to the BBC? This would be the only reason you'd need to have a licence to watch non BBC broadcasts. Otherwise they are surely breaking the law!?

[@derektaylor7844]

The Transmitters are privately owned, The need or not for a licence is determined by law , The BBC do not set the conditions under which a licence In needed that is done by the relevant laws ,

[@johnferguson40]

Your rallying cry of "how do they get away with it"? Will be changed in tthe near future to, " How DID they get away with it"? IT'S GOT TO STOP.

[@smythharris2635]

People who read The Guardian?

[@MinyaKinar]

I have an interesting question. What if you bought a bbc program on vhs/dvd/bray or online, like purchasing the full series of Bluestone 42 on Amazon? Do you need a license from the pedo thieves then or no?

[@derektaylor7844]

No , licence is only for viewing or recording live broadcasts , DVDs Blue-ray purchased do not require a licence ,,

[@richnorris1061]

I’d say politics is the biggest scam ever :-)

[@JahBeatSoundSystem]

🤜🏽🤛🏼

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

I’m not from Scotland but i watched the White Heather Club on KZbin for free! Yes, i have no doubt that if it wasn’t shown on repeat this year on the bbc then you probably all watched a woke American imported pc down your throat movie.😂😂

[@kbeesmot9928]

I redacted my details of one of their letters and posted it back to Darlington with "You send me your rubbish, I send you mine". I added potato peelings, other junk mail and a load of used cotton buds after cleaning my ears to them. OK, it cost me a 2nd Class stamp, but made me feel good.

[@queenberengaria9626]

@kbeesmot9928: 😂 Sweet. Should have left the stamp off, would have made them pay a fee to receive it!

[@dp-ux8vi]

Why would you have a load of used cotton buds lying around? Also RTS doesn't require a stamp

[@kbeesmot9928]

@@dp-ux8vi RTS is for an unopened envelop, I used an A4 size to get more of my crap in. The cotton buds was an example, I think there was an empty smoked salmon wrapper as well.

[@mygreatbigfoot1679]

New years day’s comments and moans:-

[@j0hnf_uk]

'Your must-have pass to 400+ live TV channels.' Except, it's not. Not even close. It's nothing more than the usual bumf you get with all advertising. Which is basically all that leaflet, (it's not a letter), that can't even identity the person it's been mailed to, is. Practically every sentence in it is a lie, or at best, exceedingly economical with the truth in regard to what you can watch on TV or the internet. It should be obvious where the money they do get is going. They have to keep those executives with their 6 figure salaries happy, after all. Programmes? Oh, they're way down on the list of priorities. Just give the proles the usual repetitive, mediocre guff they've been fed for years. I doubt the name of the bottom of that is even real. It sounds like one that's been made up, much like everything else in this, 'letter', that signifies it as nothing more than a scam.

[@TheXeroid]

That's a boring letter, I much prefer the funny "we're sending the boys round" letters.

[@WeAreThePeople1690]

You don't need a licence to listen to the radio either, yet another lie. If we needed one, do you not think with all the cars vans etc in Britain. They wouldn't be chasing everyone for their tax, loosing out on all that revenue.

[@suzieb8366]

Sighhh, that is terrible wording... Not sure whether to laugh or cry!

[@MikeEves]

The BBC are not that bright

[@ianstokes-c6i]

never bought 1 never will, all i do when they are at my door is say, its the devils worker my dear , the devils tv sinner is here, let put him on the cross let him repent , they leave me alone god nutter me lol

[@Cull-every-Tory]

Strange how I never receive letters from Bentley, Aston Martin, Rolls Royce or Lamborghini demanding to know why I haven't purchased one of their products, never called at my home either. Must only be the criminally harrasing TV Licence goons who have no fear of using scam tactics to fraudulently pressure people to pay for a TV license they may not need. Scumsters.