“You’re NOT A WOMAN Just Because You Got Surgery!” Macy Gray on Transgender Identity

American R&B and soul singer Macy Gray joins Piers Morgan Uncensored to discuss issues on racial inequality, transgender identity and even the advice successful artist and singer Prince gave her.
Piers asks the 'I Try' singer what her definition of a woman is and Macy gives her response before telling us the methods of identity have become very confusing. She also believes that getting gender reassignment surgey "doesn't make you a woman". Although she is happy to use whichever pronouns someone identifies with, she explains that she feels women go through such a unique experience growing up that trans women cannot truly be called women.
Subscribe to stay up-to-date on all Uncensored content.
Follow Piers Morgan Uncensored on:
Twitter: / piersuncensored
Instagram: / piersmorgan. .
Facebook: / piersmorganu. .
TikTok: / piersmorganun. .
Follow Piers Morgan on:
Twitter: / piersmorgan
Instagram: / piersmorgan
Piers Morgan Uncensored is now available on TalkTV, Fox Nation and Sky News Australia!
#piersmorgan #trans #lgbt #macygray #women #lgbt #talktv #piersuncensored

[@dewilew2137]

The amount of pure PRIDE and JOY I feel when a beautiful and fearless WOMAN speaks out against this nonsense. THANK YOU MACY!!!

[@IlsaTheLion]

You can also be that person

[@AnilKumar-mp9hk]

Bunch of bigots n fascists

[@dewilew2137]

Ilsa Schader I am. I have no friends because of it, and half of my family doesn’t speak to me, but I am.

[@coldrollercourier85]

@@dewilew2137 No FREINDS because of it. Same here. But I will always speak truth and fact in the face of losing friends.

[@morganpike7612]

@@dewilew2137 That's very sad. To be shunned for a difference of opinion. I have to constantly remind myself I shouldn't be angry with those who act this way. I should remember to reserve my anger for those who programmed them to act this way.

[@kath6720]

I never thought, growing up and learning about suffragettes and all the women who paved the way for us, that someday I would have to explain my gender and actually be afraid. Not ever! Thank you Macy Gray for speaking up at what unfortunately could be of a personal cost to you.

[@HajSa371]

Spot on. ❤️🙏❤️

[@esthellakomerl8084]

Crazy isn't it??

[@Evan8787]

What's hilarious is that the woke Left's definition of a woman changes depending on the topic. If the topic is athletics, a trans woman is 100% a woman. If the topic is abortion then a woman goes back to being defined by their vagina and reproductive organs. According to the woke Left's definition of a woman, don't men also have a say in abortion since men can get pregnant too?

[@cynthiamckenzie1462]

It is amazing to me that we are living though a time that there is an element of our society that does not respect the sacrifices that many of our countrymen have made. GOOD BLESS AMERICA!! Respect our flag! Everyone loves each other and respect everyone.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

The battle has to be fought again, and it must be women who fight it.

[@Honesty4yoass]

Agreed. Being born female, being a baby girl, becoming a little girl, a teenage girl, a young woman etc… that is something no one can take away from us, nor mimic it into existence, no matter how much they try. It is an experience that cannot be bought, or operated by a doctor into fruition. Being a woman, having a monthly menstrual cycle, becoming pregnant, giving birth to a new life, breastfeeding a baby; no doctor, hormone therapy or medication can or ever will morph your way into or out of this reality. Have all the surgeries you want. Do with your body as you please. Transition if you feel comfortable doing so. Do whatever makes you feel better about yourself. Be happy and content with what makes you comfortable. More power to ya! However, please, be fully aware that no amount of aesthetics will ever make you or turn you into something you’re not nor will ever be. It is what it is and it’s not what it’s not.

[@user-dx4wo6ws4m]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@meganhenry8345]

Absolutely 😁

[@denesejamerson2356]

VERY TRUE, and well said.

[@Cynthia-fx4we]

1000 thumbs up to you!

[@hollytourond]

You hit the nail right on the fricken head with this comment 😊

[@robertcurry4832]

“Being a little girl is a whole epic book” is an entire explanation in itself

[@azureavocado5195]

Despite her soft voice and her childlike artistry people forget that this is a grown woman who’s lived almost 5 decades in this society. She’s earned the right to speak her truth. Period.

[@agricolaregs]

No, she got that right from birth.

[@candyluna2929]

And is not her truth, is the truth

[@MediaBuster]

"her truth" = lies.

[@chrismarit2362]

The truth.

[@djbarbergreen3388]

childlike ? Anyone can see this is an intelligent grown woman ,not what you described as a lesser human being

[@billmayor8567]

There is a vulnerability about her that is so endearing. She speaks from her heart

[@christineperez7562]

She has no choice to. Only certain people can get angry.

[@fastmoney7204]

@@christineperez7562 what ?

[@Mt.Moonface]

Yes it’s very childlike

[@TheLanternZ]

And that’s the way it should be, speaking from the heart. We cannot agree on everything but that doesn’t make you my enemy.

[@JohnCarterRocks]

She speaks from a place of ignorance.

[@maryblencowe]

What a delightful interview. The main contribution to it being so is because, for once, you didn’t talk over your guest and you actually listened to what she had to say. How I wish you did this for all your interviews Piers. This interview was really worth watching. Thank you.

[@christinegovan3712]

E talked about his interviewing techniques with Jordon Peterson...

[@rodneynyamutswa5267]

Can't be the 1st time they have met. They were comfortable with each other

[@blake4604]

I really like it when the host and interviewee get on well and appear to have a genuine connection.

[@marvellous-goddavid2401]

She's so childlike and honest in her responses that it's refreshing, endearing and beautiful. No guile, no trying to sound smart, no trying to be superior, just being yourself and being open. She's so beautiful ❤️

[@JohnCarterRocks]

Yet she managed to sound so profoundly ignorant.

[@gervas4935]

She is predagist

[@michaelmaps2004]

I agree and she said what needed to be said

[@francaevans4326]

Authentic, honest, and humble, she’s beautiful.

[@dray7276]

@@JohnCarterRocks Did she lie about something? What has she ignored?

[@aspen327]

I love her quirky personality. She a honest person and down to earth.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

Me too. I don't even agree with half of what she says but she's so sweet I'm happy to listen. I would be interested in a body language expert explaining how she does that.

[@christineperez7562]

She has a soulful singing voice too.

[@christineperez7562]

@@chesterdonnelly1212 You don't agree with what a woman is? You don't think our country is behind? You don't think we need to update our laws or expire very outdated laws.

[@chesterdonnelly1212]

@@christineperez7562 no I don't agree the American flag should have different colour stars. The flag is fine as it is.

[@xaviertr6240]

that’s not quirky that’s tweaker

[@tommym7321]

What sucks is that she's actually right about everything, and you can tell that she's approaching all of these issues as an artist/thinker, instead of a politician. That doesn't matter to people that only see politics in everything. Even her more "liberal" points like the flag stuff I agree with her on and I'm glad Piers showed the early American flag so that she had an opportunity to point out how ridiculous it is that people are so precious about our current flag that's only been around for a short time. I don't personally aesthetically like her new flag concept, but that isn't the point.

[@Alwayzblessed36]

Her response is legendary💜💜💜 she worded it in a way that no one else was able

[@LeSpaghet]

yeah but unfortunately she got so much backlsash that she retracted her statement

[@stephenwilson9480]

Two people with different opinions having an adult conversation.How refreshing

[@manchudashe7519]

Very refreshing 😌

[@sulfa5506]

they mostly agreed tho ...

[@quiners9174]

No you said it

[@georgeball6997]

Piers has to have a different opinion though otherwise his show is cancelled 😅

[@marctempler3250]

You consider this an adult "conversation? You must have very low standards ...or don''t know what ''adult" is, which is more likely.

[@Lyons_T-BAG]

Macy Gray has bigger balls than almost all the male celebrities in America.. Speak the truth Macy!

[@redpillras3456]

She’s always been based. She’s never really given a f**k

[@rayzor5289]

Nope...she's a real women....that means no balls 🙂

[@christopherlewis2194]

F3males get way more chances than men STOP IT

[@cheesetoast8312]

Dave got em

[@Lyons_T-BAG]

@@JoshTheTechnoShaman But a man talking about a transexual "Male" is not talking about women he's talking about men cutting off their cucumbers. 🤣

[@Serendipityfemme]

she is so earthy, grounded and humble, her energy is so calm and soothing even through the screen! What prince said to her "it's not about you." is something we can all take and adapt into our lives, especially this cristal generation that walks around feeling victimized and offended over everything, thinking the world owes them everything.

[@teegeedavid5085]

At least someone had the courage to speak the truth. Weldone Macy, you're such a rare gem

[@blondiegirl5460]

Courage? She's ignorant at best.

[@ericaleon8027]

When she said "growing up as a little girl" explained it all!! So much goes into that as us being born a woman!!! We go through so much with our emotions and bodies. Well said 👏 👏💜💜

[@joymcarthur5429]

How is transgenderism not cultural appropriation? I remember when you couldn't cook a taco without being accused of cultural appropriation. Now all these males want to become women. I say hell no. You don't get hormones and have a penectomy and get to say you are a woman. Actually what you are is a man who had some medical procedures.

[@moemohamed8891]

@@ninibugg6203 you can identify as whatever you want but when your choices start to have real life consequences like crushing biological womens skulls or breaking record after record in whatever competition, you'll be reminded of your biology. Stop watering down what it means to be a woman. The damn line should be drawn somewhere. There was a coach, i think they did some sort of track. The coach was telling the trans woman to fucking SLOW down. You can't deny science and reality while claiming you're on the side of science(not you specifically).

[@patsayjack402]

@@ninibugg6203 blue isn't male pink isn't female. Sensitivity isn't female. Toughness isn't male. Those are lies you have to believe to hold the ideological belief that gender is a social construct. Let's discard those falsehoods instead of doing the mental gymnastics you've just displayed. It's much simpler and beneficial to all. A woman or man can have any personality type, clothing style, and career but the one thing they can't to is change their gender.

[@audreymai2773]

So true.

[@audreymai2773]

@@ninibugg6203 my mother never forced me to play with dolls or wear pink. I did those things but I also played Nintendo and played with GI Joe's and Star Wars figures and climbed trees and got dirty. Being a girl doesn't boil down to those things. If you are not a woman then I can see how you might not understand, but if you are I am flabbergasted that you think that is all we are! We are the life givers of the world. And now people are trying to belittle us and make us less. WE ARE WOMAN! That is powerful! All of us women should protest this bs before they take the word MOTHER from the dictionary and all birth certificates. It should NOT be allowed to happen.

[@Lala_monzz]

as a woman, i’m offended that ppl are changing MY identity. trans ppl prove again that no one gives a fk about women, it’s always about other ppl and their feelings. all the shit i go through like periods, period pain, pregnancy, birth, postpartum, breastfeeding are what make me a strong woman. ur not a woman LIKE ME just cuz u changed ur parts. that’s not fair or right. ur not a real woman, ur a transwoman. PERIOD

[@jasonpow6341]

Well said!🔒

[@xenogeve8163]

No ones taking away your identity. Feminism stops when you tear down something to achieve it. Stop being so insecure, if you don’t see them as real women then you shouldn’t be threatened. Weakling.

[@jayjaydubful]

​@@xenogeve8163 oh peak victim blaming! Always women's fault eh? If we notice that a men's sexual rights movement is attempting to (in the US, succeeding) erase our identity & legal rights & speak against that then WE are weaklings? DO ONE

[@flipperflipper-eo2gp]

Periods are not easy for any women ... childbirth is hard ...are hormones are difficult ...feel the same ..sick of it ❤️

[@imanijames9115]

@@xenogeve8163 It’s not about insecurity or viewing them as competition. It’s about how society views biological women. My cousin is a trans woman and they don’t like men at all. They don’t like men because they are abusive towards her for having a feminine appearance and she’s used by misogynistic men to fuel more hate towards the gender/sex they truly believe they are. Please stop trying to invalidate women, in the most stereotypical way, as being “jealous” when trans women are telling us what men are doing themselves.

[@kerrycamden1861]

Loves the way she says “being a little girl is a whole book” ❤

[@dannyolortegui3776]

Just because "I try" is a timeless classic, I'm automatically obligated to agree with Macy Gray

[@thatfast3002]

This is what bravery looks like, SPEAKING THE TRUTH even when you know you'll be attacked

[@ellebelle6439]

Exactly I wish more people did this

[@tinagreencreates]

It’s making a comeback. I am speaking it into existence.

[@Jay00780]

lmao so brave A MAN WHO SOUNDS LIKE A BABY lmao bravery

[@DmanDice]

Come on now you know they all go back on tv and apologize cowering out.

[@318DoubleE]

@@DmanDice when trans women feel the need to put their hands on people for being offended you would backtrack as well if you weren’t walking around with guards 24/7

[@KianaG1280]

Finally. Thank you Macy Gray! Being a woman is biological not emotional.

[@Z.7895]

Exactly!!

[@jordancole5671]

Just over looking the part where trans women have similar brain chemistry or structure as cis women. That is the reason for the disphoria They don't just think or feel like a woman They have identical brain activity as a typical woman.

[@katrinawhite8293]

Total 1000 percent agree!

[@blahblahblah3722]

It's both, plus mental. We are different than men biologically, emotionally, and mentally. A surgeon can't change that

[@jessmorgan7738]

As I just said to another privileged woman. All trans women want is a better life and TO NOT GET MURDERED (which is happening at an alarming rate). Nothing is being taken from you. Classifying trans women as "women" or "real women" will not harm you at all, but it has the capacity to help them from being murdered. So, it is your choice . . . murder or let them live? I say that if allowing trans women to be classified as women helps save one life, then let it be. Why are you seeing this as such a threat to your life? You are not in danger like trans women are. You clearly are looking at this from some bias, and that is what is most alarming. If I were the parent of a trans child, I would not allow you to babysit my child.

[@NukukaNiko1]

Self-identity makes a person authentic, Macy and Pierce are authentic.

[@nickyo8467]

This is the best I have seen on pair’s show. Genuine, real conversation. No arguing or provoking each other. She made a lot of sense and in a calm, lady like way. Thank you for sharing

[@Riva2025]

"...Being a little girl is a whole EPIC BOOK, and you can't have that just because you want to be a woman." You can say that again!!! My childhood wasn't dressing up in pink clothes and copying makeup tutorials on KZbin. I love being a woman, but my life wasn't glamorous at all!!! Males who want to be women do not understand that. They want the good time, phony parts they see on TV, but don't realize how nervewracking and complicated life as a young girl can be.

[@Kace_Darbouze-Omolade]

You think that being a trans woman is glamorous? They are very vulnerable to hate crimes and many of them face discrimination, being disowned by their families/friends, have a hard time finding romantic partners, and general disrespect from the world. As someone that is close to multiple trans people I know that it is not a choice for them and it is so much deeper than the clothes and makeup.

[@KIRKSHINTATURNIPSEED]

@@Kace_Darbouze-Omolade your point ? Using your comparative….White people can have hard lives too it doesnt make them understand the complexities of race as it applies to black people Just because you transition doesnt mean you have experienced the nuances of being biologically female which is Macys point Oranges to apples

[@cu5864]

@@Kace_Darbouze-Omolade I'm pretty sure every group has had to experience hate, ridicule, and dismissal from others due to what they look like, or where they come from, or a variety of different things about themselves that they cannot and should not change. It happens to EVERY group, that doesn't give one group the right to take another group's identity and then dismiss their feelings and rights!

[@Riva2025]

@@Kace_Darbouze-Omolade You sort of proved my point!!! Little girls have very different problems than hate crimes or being disowned for being girls, or hard time finding romantic partners for being a bio female. In fact, I work in a field dominated by women, so I can't even remember ever being discriminated against for gender. I'm not saying it's all about clothing or makeup because I've never had to worry about being confused for male no matter how plainly dressed I was. There was disrespect for other reasons sometimes. The transexuals people's problems you mentioned come when they decide to become trans. Our problems/experiences are different and start at birth. That's why they will NEVER know what it really is to be female. Anyway, that's my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own. But just because someone tells you how much emotional pain or things they dealt with are, or how they were treated, does not make what they say correct.

[@Riva2025]

@@cu5864 Right!!! You said it more briefly than I could.

[@CollinsMichaelC]

Macy is amazing - calm, direct, honest - I think she identifies with most of the population around the world.

[@zerofox7347]

What a lovely lady. ☺️ A picture of clarity in a world of chaos.

[@ericmsandoval]

This WOMAN is absolutely a breath of fresh air

[@happysheepboys1935]

I was never a fan of her music.. but after this very calm debate. I like and admire her alot. She makes alot of sense.

[@ltme4134]

Same. I wanna hug her.

[@parishers6351]

It’s not a debate though 🤔

[@martinderek13]

a lot

[@vinnym5607]

"Not a fan of her music, but now that I know she's a transphobe...."

[@suharsya]

bro, give "i try" a try, and you would be a fan of her music

[@greatray6262]

Love Macy Gray and her wonderful unique personality. This attacking people for speaking the truth has got to stop.

[@MeNatalieMarie]

The truth is trans people are real. We have been around forever and we're not going anywhere either. Get the fuck over it.

[@jessmorgan7738]

Do you want to get in a time machine and go back in time with Macy Gray? That is what she is intimating. If you do, then "Good Luck." You want Civil Rights for yourself but don't give a damn about others. Sad commentary. You may get what you want.

[@greatray6262]

@@jessmorgan7738 I didn't have a problem with anything she said. Please do us all a huge favor and point out what she said specifically that could be an infringement on anyone's civil rights.

[@KCLundy007]

@@jessmorgan7738 Not agreeing with a false statement on sex is infringing on others civil rights? Explain?

[@janettedewar6617]

Watching Macy on stage is heartwarming the way she reaches out to people and she has had it tough.

[@user-mf3xs3mh6u]

It takes guts to speak up on what a woman is and what a woman is not. Good on ya Macy.

[@kennypartridge1853]

Great interview. Macy seems a really genuine person. I saw her live 23 years ago. Brilliant show, very entertaining, and I'm into my rock and metal. She was playing before a band I wanted to see at a festival, so I watched her show. Glad I did, she's very funny on stage.

[@c.bellamy2007]

I dunno what's the problem. I totally agree with her and I'm definitely not transphobic. This world is way too sensitive. Thank you Macy for not back tracking just to please the cancel culture crybabies.

[@clutchboi4038]

Yes you are transphobic. The definition of transphobic is doing anything that makes any trans person upset. So basically if you believe in reality and have basic common sense you're transphobic. At this point I'm just owning it because I don't care about what people say anymore.

[@RS54321]

Unfortunately she backtracked on the Today Show. Who knows how she was threatened.

[@kaecake9575]

Liberal Tears fuel my happiness now

[@tamasenebray4816]

@@kaecake9575 totally agree with you.

[@hitmankiller123]

@@RS54321 and this is the problem, I believe in letting people live how they want but they don’t believe you should live how you want!! getting so sick of this nonsense live your life just don’t force it down my throat!!, the sad part if she back tracked her statement it will never be enough 😵‍💫

[@Mar-fl7cx]

Something about her is so endearing. She seems like a very sweet person.

[@adeel-eh7xq]

You probably grew up listening to her music so it's nostalgia. I wasn't a huge R & B fan when I was a child but I remember seeing her on the first spiderman film in 2002 so seeing her always reminds me of my childhood.

[@HelloEveryonez678]

She is right, and should never have apologised for speaking the truth. Changing your parts does not make you a woman. This is a fact.

[@ncorp2668]

Loved how clear, concise, succinct and genuine her response was on the woman thing. She explained it perfectly. Wanting to be called a woman is not the same thing as actually BEING a woman. You can't duplicate or identify into our experience. It's that simple.

[@harigoodman7718]

Ok, but people do transition. When they do this, some look virtually indistinguishable from people born from the biological female sex. This means that they are treated by society as women. Due to this, do they not have a similar experience?

[@DavidKen878]

@@harigoodman7718 You made a really good point. People act like bleeding once a month or being able to get pregnant are the only real experiences there are for women to have.

[@harigoodman7718]

@Princess The original poster said that transgender women cannot identify with the “experience” of women. I was making the point that fully transitioned trans women have much of the same experience as cisgender women as they are treated very similarly by society. This means I disagree with the idea that trans women don’t live as women or have a similar experience.

[@harigoodman7718]

@Princess I’m not talking about transition either. I’m saying how transgender women present after transition is very similar to cisgender women. This results in them having similar and therefore shared experiences which many would consider a part of womanhood. I understand that the experiences of menstruation especially are quite large parts of being women. However, many women do not get periods (some never start a period). But, they are still women aren’t they? So surely living as a woman in society (dealing with how others treat you, gender roles and stereotypes) is a more significant part of being a woman as it is something that all women experience and throughout all stages of their life? The fact that they can’t have kids doesn’t mean anything. Quite a lot of women are infertile due to conditions such as PCOS. They’re still women. Even women who can conceive, they may have different goals and objectives in life and may not want to have kids. A trans woman can still adopt, have a surrogate, have a child biologically if they are a gay couple (using sperm banks before transitioning). There are plenty of ways a trans women can still be a mother.

[@TheRealNativeSun]

@@harigoodman7718 no they don’t. Being born something genetically just hits different.

[@ginathornburg9653]

"Women go through just a completely unique experience. ... Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know. And you can't have that just because you wanna be a woman."

[@ayou2142]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@smokexsmoke99]

No one is "pushing" children to transition. Parents don't want their child to transition, but they don't want them to be suicidal or alcoholic either. We can guide and influence a person. Doctors trained in gender dysphoria are qualified to decide when transitioning will help a child. The parents must also give consent. If a misdiagnosed child starts to transition then stops, they generally have very little change to overcome. If a child cannot transition until adulthood they are forced to endure the wrong hormones for years. It's the same as telling a misdiagnosed child then can't stop taking the wrong hormones until they're adults. It's torture beyond imagining. Let's not forget many children are GREATFUL for their time as the opposite sex. THERE IS NO PERFECT SOLUTION. Yes! Exactly true! So choose the path with the most success. That's what doctors continue to do. The regret rate for children transitioning on hormones (age 16+) is around 2%. For some 2% is too much; yet they don't seem to realize that the reverse means 98% have regret to save the 2%.

[@smokexsmoke99]

Transgender women tend to have brain structures that resemble cisgender women, rather than cisgender men. Two sexually dimorphic (differing between men and women) areas of the brain are often compared between men and women. The bed nucleus of the stria terminalus (BSTc) and sexually dimorphic nucleus of transgender women are more similar to those of cisgender woman than to those of cisgender men, suggesting that the general brain structure of these women is in keeping with their gender identity. Several studies have shown that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins, indicating that there is indeed a genetic influence for this identity. So, what genes might be responsible?

[@Dah42]

@@smokexsmoke99 Cisgender women? man, I hate liberal terminology!! just say "women". Also, if small children are mature enough to decide whether they want to "change" their gender then it's only fair to let children also vote and drive cars.

[@smokexsmoke99]

@@Dah42 Trans is a reality for a lot of people who’s external appearance doesn’t align with their internal thoughts and feelings. With a true trans child where it all really begins is with that internal feelings of being a girl or a boy.

[@lesliesmith5797]

Very interesting interview. I realized that Macy is intelligent and relaxed, and very pretty, but I had no idea who she was. Of course looked her up and found out she is a singer and songwriter. Everything she says is spot on 💗. Women are born females, change what you will on the outside, but a man is a man and a woman is just that, a woman. This was never an issue when I grew up, but the world is now upside down. I am very happy that I was born a woman’s and gave birth to three wonderful sons. Wouldn’t change it for the world. Macy is humble and very sweet. 🦋🦋🦋

[@talkingballs]

Love it that she speaks with no filter. A very likable lady

[@nikolai3498]

This is so refreshing!!!!!! Finally someone said it, she explained it without cutting people down. The experience of being a girl and growing into a woman is something that cannot be duplicated, the same goes for men as well.

[@Yourmom-tc4rn]

She wants to "reboot" the Constitution because "it's a new day". What is refreshing about that?

[@nunyab7434]

BEAUTIFULLY SAID💖

[@judyjudy1495]

People needs to remove gags from their mouth and speak the truth , We don't hate transgender , but taking my space , my sport , my freedom to speak as a woman who have a lot on my plate biologically because i will be called trans phobic noo big noo!! I am woman , biologically and all struggles that even if you change genitals you wont have the same struggles that biological women faces .

[@minanoch7613]

You took the words out of my mouth!!

[@bundlesjoy7408]

I second that

[@robjohnson9270]

as a man, I question how "woman" someone could be if they've NEVER had to even contemplate having to deal with a period every month....THAT is PART of being a woman, for better or worse....

[@chrisbrown5743]

Exactly! I knew a person who transitioned. I knew them as male and eventually as female. When I simple brought up biological truths when the Lia Thomas thing came up I was automatically labeled as transphobic and all of the biological facts I stated were deemed to be bigoted. I do t care what ppl do with there own lives as long as it isn’t imposing on others and there is no denying the fact that trans women who go through male puberty have a biological advantage. I’m tired of ppl wanting us to believe the lies

[@juliawhite7768]

PREACH!!!

[@dicem8977]

Macy Gray comes across as such a genuine and likable woman. She's a delight. For all the criticism she received over her flag comments she's a very proud American and as a non-American myself, a Scotsman, she's an example of America at its best in my opinion. I've just Spotified her music, off to listen to it now.

[@stevejh69]

Well said Macy Gray. You are not only correct, but you are also honest. Thanks you.

[@LadyDazzleDance]

Very refreshing to see two grown adults from opposite ends of the spectrum having an open and honest conversation.

[@constitutionalrepublic1966]

I love that she’s honest and isn’t afraid to speak the truth.

[@DmanDice]

Until she goes back on tv and apologizes

[@aminuaidara8601]

@@DmanDice because they're going to do everything in their power to destroy her life for speaking the truth how can anybody in his right mind can even believe because of couple of surgeries a man can become a woman or woman can be man this is the biggest lie in the history of human being on this planet

[@elizabethtrainer9732]

She can't even put a full sentence together for Christ's sake, but sure, go ahead, applaud her for her "truth."

[@ninibugg6203]

I'm kind of split down the middle when it comes to transgenderism. On one hand, I agree with Macy Gray when she says trans women and female women are not the same thing. That's a fact, one is male the other is female. However, I also can understand people who state that gender and sex are not the same thing. If you actually research, their argument makes sense. Gender IS a socially constructed thing. For example, females are "supposed" to be Women, who wear pink and womanly things, display softer, "feminine" traits, while males are "supposed" to be men, who wear blue and manly things, display harder, "masculine" traits. These things aren't how some biological males and females are, so it's not fair to force males to be "men" and females to be "women". What if there's a natural born male who caters to being what society considers "womanhood" rather than "manhood", and therefore identifies as a woman? Not as a FEMALE, but as a WOMAN.

[@moemohamed8891]

@@ninibugg6203 what's wrong with just calling transwomen transwomen? Why try to silence actual biological women just to make room for transwomen? A woman is a female and a male is a man. They can both be transmen or transwomen. When you leave the word trans out, you are going out of your way to muddy the water.

[@0521Official]

I love Macy. I met her in 2000 when I had just walked off stage after my performance at The Scala in London and she came over and complimented me for my performance and energy on stage. To this day I have always admired her personality and the person she is. She just seems like a really in tune person and I personally don't see anything wrong with what she's saying here. Never change who you are Macy, thats who we all fell in love with from the get go ❤

[@blackLaidback]

Her unique way to honestly articulate is humbling

[@april-tui3524]

Love her ❤️ a woman is not a feeling in a man’s head, a woman is an adult human female!

[@denise4487]

Great explanation 👍 you are so right its not a feeling

[@Chakotay2222]

wow you are so smart, what is a female?

[@sammon1018]

Amen to that

[@thetransagender2866]

@@Chakotay2222 What is a stupid transphobic dogwhistle?

[@thetransagender2866]

Dog whistling

[@WowDaniX]

Thank you for speaking up for women. You’re such a breath of fresh air.

[@cynthiagonzalezgomez9184]

Such a beautiful spirit; and from the heart moment - interview. Loved it!

[@katherineseymour6239]

An interview of someone with common sense, what a treat. Calm, realistic, lovely.

[@ltme4134]

Seems like a kind soul. I could use a hug from a woman like her. I just need a hug.

[@fizzypop1249]

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@ChelseaJadeC]

*hug*

[@jennywinter3025]

🤗

[@fastmoney7204]

Agree

[@missraeray]

Hug hug hug ☺️☺️

[@mariadelaart5897]

Piers genuinely really likes and admires Macy Gray. And so do I A talented artist from a generation who is grounded and honest Not selling her soul for popularity ❤

[@ERSReed2024]

I love what Macy stands for. Big 🤗 &💖

[@angelmatos9143]

Macy has always understood life better than most.

[@chrisbrown5743]

She is living proof that true beauty starts from the inside and then exudes to the outside . I don’t even have to know this woman to know that she is a wonderful person.

[@ClassicAudiobooksInspirations]

Yep. She just owns it... And you cant take it away from her. Aged with grace too

[@trendkill1891]

Try to say goodbyyye but I choke, try to walk away and I stumbllllllle

[@jihigh482]

Because you strongly agree with her on one topic?? lol I do agree with her too by the way but I wouldn't say she's a "wonderful" person based just on that

[@trendkill1891]

@@jihigh482 based

[@chrisbrown5743]

@@jihigh482 who says I am basing this on just this one opinion? Stop trying to be funny by assuming things … it makes you look ignorant

[@joanspragg9395]

I have just been given food for thought after this interview. Thank you for a great thought provoking programme

[@davidcook4457]

If everyone in the world were like this woman this world would be paradise amazing interview and wow she speaks the truth so talented and such an inspiring speaker respect from London England

[@Randomshii166]

I thank her from the bottom of my heart for being the voice of us women. There are times we feel completely shut out and our feelings are invalidated because we don’t appreciate people stealing from us and wanting to mix in with us. The beauty we are naturally born with being obtained by force against Mother Nature and then claiming our gender is unfair to us.

[@ktwashere5637]

the word "woman" has been stolen by people who are biologically male. its a fucking scandal. Trans ideology is misogyny. Its like when women used to complain about sexual harassment. We were told we were wrong then too. Its the exact same thing.

[@carverhighalumni]

🌸Thank you... & #Ladies I notice they're also trying to clutch our pearls now too smh!!

[@Moonstone115]

Absolutely, we've only been allowed to vote, get jobs and have a voice for the last 100 years or so. It's been a fight. We get disrespected when we are suffering that time of the month, which by the way is a real painful struggle! It's a mans world and now men want to cut their power tool off and be like us...can we not have anything without men gegging in?!! 😔

[@biggswilder]

Weird comments 🤢🤢🤢

[@biggswilder]

Just let people transition and shut up

[@chongxina8288]

Aww bless her. She’s a sweetie. You can tell she’s just being honest. Not trying to fit in with some trendy political agenda. That’s much more rock and roll than most of today’s rockstars.

[@SPEliteTV]

The fact that we are having these conversations just shows you how crazy and unsettling this world is.

[@maureen621]

So nice to hear a conversation and no one trying to talk over the other.

[@lawannalw]

The things that a woman's body goes through cannot be handled by men, and a woman's body cannot handle the things that a man's body goes through. The things that we go through would absolutely kill a man if he had to experience those things. We are build totally different, and no matter how many surgeries, hormones that are taken, or what someone tells themselves, we will never be able to change DNA. Love yourself and stop pretending to be something that you are not. And a phobia is a fear of something. Since the 50's or 60's people have been messing up the English language and definitions. They are really messing up this generation and future generations by inappropriately using pronouns. Just ridiculous. Macy Gray just spoke truth. People will tell themselves anything to justify their wants.

[@7CConstitution]

Then why does our DNA allow us to transform into the opposite gender, with the right hormones? You are also missing the two points of reincarnation, and auto-philias. 1) We incarnated too many times as one gender. 2) We want more joy of what the other has, but couldn't experience in our earlier life, and %99 found we were correct, and are much happier for it. Why should this even matter anyway? We have nothing to do with anyone's life anyway. Nobody own anyone else, but the right thinks they do, and that's wrong.

[@themoviedealers]

You definitely are fearful, even if you won't admit it.

[@shroudedgrove4679]

DNA is not gender. Keep up.

[@cu5864]

Agreed! There is a distinct difference between men and women and no amount of surgeries, hormone replacements, or make up can change that. It is disrespectful to not only lay claim to the opposite sex but then to also tell women they shouldn't speak up about their sex. That's why I disagree with entertaining any delusions that someone can change their sex in any capacity. We, as women, need to stand up for our own sex and stop playing pretend to placate their adult feelings.

[@lawannalw]

@@cu5864 Amen!!!! Totally on the same page. I feel insulted when these dudes say that they know what it feels like to be a woman. Impossible.

[@aspen327]

I have to admit it nice to hear two adults can talk and be civil to each other. Agree to not disagree . Good job to both of you.

[@fizzypop1249]

It’s nice he’s not speaking over her like he usually does.

[@morganpike7612]

And imagine... this used to be the norm. Now when it happens it's something to comment on. So Sad.

[@sirennoir258]

Yes I have been wanting to hear something civilized for YEARS.

[@jjohnson4160]

Macy is amazing, delightful, and speaks the truth so simply. She makes me smile 😊

[@chaole1000]

She was all over the place in explaining things

[@maryqueenofscots3006]

Finally a woman that did not mince her words.

[@quiethills1999]

My thoughts exactly.

[@sitdownstandup91]

Bette Midler has indirectly spoken about this too!

[@atlantic_love]

Gracy is a woman? Wouldn't know it from the pic.

[@sitdownstandup91]

@@atlantic_love who the hell is gracy?

[@F.R.F937]

Finally ? Thousand of women do that for years now

[@carolineplant5510]

i give this woman a standing ovation she said we need to let it go well done she hit the nail on the head let go of the hang up's Macy gray certainly is not a snowflake she is a warrior this woman is talking the truth .. bring her back soon

[@_artorical_]

Opinions expressed without facts-because they’re opinions-is not “talking truth.”

[@mikecadams7801]

@@_artorical_ so what are you saying 😒

[@1archengdes111]

she said she was born in the 60's !! black really don't crack, she looks really young, she's beautiful, genuine, and she is a proud American so she absolutely has the right to expressed different views about America and its symbols.

[@steffnar.509]

I love you Macy! I remember my high school days with your music everywhere...you're still great even today. Much love from Italy

[@bekindandyouwillgofar8717]

macy said nothing malicious. it was sincere and from the heart. I appreciate her braveness. she made me proud to be from USA, black, and a woman. she showed respect to the trans community by saying i don't agree with you but support you. it is okay to not agree yet be respectful as pierce and macy reminded us of with this interview. everyone stop letting our differences define everyone

[@nomanisawoman5458]

why don't you agree? JK rowling was also respectful, heartfelt she got so much abuse it was shocking. but no man can ever be a woman, we now have men with sexual fetish for being women end up in prisons with women, raping them. and in their spaces. weilding power to change the defintion of woman. as a biologist major and a woman, and a south asian women in a country where girls get murdered for their sex when they are fetuses. all this lies about gender are pushing womens rights to a difficult position

[@thefreestate762]

I don’t know. I feel as though the LQBTQ community isn’t happy or content until people not only let them be, but then have to promote their lifestyle and praise it. I can’t do that. I won’t. I respect their right to be what they want but cannot and will not praise or promote it. To them, if often seems they call you transphobic for that opinion.

[@tyronebranch2946]

@@thefreestate762 It's not about promoting and praising. It's about respect.

[@reespace]

@@thefreestate762 LGB has nothing to do with the T.

[@tabithacastro805]

Thank you, Macy -- being a "Woman" and a girl, encompasses so much more than just the sum of your parts. Going through puberty, the confusion of your first period and beyond that, a history of fighting battles for justice, equity and representation -- all of that being narrowed down to hormones, new fleshy parts and an absence of other parts. It's as if women must reclaim our humanity -- we've been "othered" and made to feel as if we exist in theory only... Bell Hooks might have been canceled & ostracized simply for naming her famous and groundbreaking work: "Ain't I a Woman"... Such strange times we live in...

[@ChocolateShakti]

"Aint I a Woman" is by Sojourner Truth. And yes agree to all you stated!!!

[@bsquared4604]

oh please, you're not suffering because someone else is a transgender.

[@smokexsmoke99]

So you transphobes claim that transgender people just pretend in order to get easy access to the opposite sex? I guess whoever thinks so has no clue about gender dysphoria and not interacted with affected people. I have a transgender boy in my house, and he can't help have a male identity... even though his body is female. There is a mismatch between brain and body, hard-wired into the brain, it is just a biological fact. He can't switch to the identity that matches his biological sex, just as we cis folks can't do the reverse. That's just a stubborn fact

[@smokexsmoke99]

There's a very small segment of society that doesn't identify as their gender at birth. These are people born with female genitals and male genitals who just don't identify with their gender. It's not any kind of assault on woman's rights. It's hard to get housing and a job as a transgender person, it's really just about giving people the dignity of being themselves and not being discriminated against. I think you would be hard pressed to find a transgender individual that doesn't support women's rights. From equal pay to anti-discriminatory policy and beyond. There's a lot of really good people in the transgender community. The vast majority of transgender people just want to work and live normally like everyone else and have healthy relationships.

[@tabithacastro805]

@@ChocolateShakti Bell Hooks' book title is based on the speech written by Sojourner Truth and it's called "Ain't I a Woman" -- I own the book and it's beautifully written, just as timely and almost as powerful as Sojourner's historic speech!

[@user-xm5ny2ju9m]

When she asked him why he has the US flag was halarious. But he didn't answer.

[@Coach_Maji]

She’s such a vibe and transparency. Bless you Macy Gray. 🙏🏽 May you have much love & we love you.

[@moniquecooper5487]

The fact is, i was born as a woman, I grew up in that role, this is who I am. I gave birth to a beautiful baby girl and that is who she is. No man wanting to be a woman can claim that and take that away from us. If you want I will call you a a transwoman, because that is what you are. You can wear your crown as a transwoman, and be proud of that and I will stand behind you and fight for your rights with you, but I will wear my own crown as a born and raised proud woman and no one will take that from me!

[@cu5864]

"Transwomen" already have the same rights as everyone else, they want additional rights to trample over the rights of women.

[@mariaspeirs9725]

Well said 👏 👌 👍

[@elizabethtrainer9732]

Is somebody TRYING to take that away from you?

[@moniquecooper5487]

@@elizabethtrainer9732 not from me alone from all of us women, and wr are all trying to hard to be woke that we are loosing sight off what is actually going on, there are people from the trans community trying to tske the title of woman away from actual women and call us baby makers. I support and love all people and everyone has the right to live their authentic life, God bless us all, but i am not going to teach my beautiful daughter that she can no longer be called a woman because it offense transwomen, and if you dont know that this is happening, stand back and just look♥️ i want all trans people to feel safe and that their feelings matter, but so does mine

[@divakhaleesi8657]

@@elizabethtrainer9732 yes they are!

[@marionbrecht8212]

„Being a Women of Girl is a Whole Epic Book and you can‘t change That“ yes! Thank You , macy gray!!!!

[@AndriaaLeoLove]

“Can’t Change That” Was The Jam 😊

[@cookie_lukey1924]

It’s sad that we’re battling this issue when it’s clearly we don’t have to

[@djfhfh]

Didnt know i loved macy gray as a person untill now

[@philip9566]

Macy Gray I have always loved… and now I love her even more!!! She’s always done everything on her own even writing her own lyrics to her songs - she’s still staying true to herself more than ever!!! I LOVE YOU MACY GRAY!!!!!

[@jacksoncothren5831]

She is one of the first celebrities I have seen to actually tell the truth by stating that racism is a personal aspect of an individual. Other than the flag thing I find I agree with a lot of her views. And while I disagree with her about the flag I can see where she is coming from and I don't think she comes at it with malice or hate.

[@andreilyas1426]

She said what you believe does not make it true, and she is absolutely right about the flag thing

[@juliehirsh1436]

What’s wrong with a few brown stars geez

[@being2real943]

@@juliehirsh1436 why not just put rainbow stars

[@atlantic_love]

@@andreilyas1426 Nor does disagreeing with something make it false.

[@williesartsdesignscuisines]

She is right about the flag issue.... The flag should be redesigned to represent what the United States is today.👈🏾

[@MyLife-hl4or]

What a wonderful human being Macy Gray is. Totally uplifting and positive. Pleasure listening to this interview. Thank you Ms. Gray and I wish you well and send you my very best wishes. xxx

[@SoldierAmber]

Transphobia is a very strong word. This is NOT transphobia, this is just facts. It’s Macy’s opinion. If you have a problem why are you even here

[@katalinrvt529]

I could never imagine that these days would come when we are happy if someone dares to say what a woman is. I am very grateful for Macy and J. K. Rowling for being our voice, however it is very sad that we are here in 2022.

[@Dah42]

What is ironic is that the political party that supports this madness is the same political party that most women support!! This is as ironic as blacks supporting the same political party that used to defend slavery, segregation and then created planned parenthood--which targets black kids in the womb. If nothing changes, the democratic party will succeed at destroying women's sports and many other things that used to belong to women.

[@derrickjohnson9313]

You definitely nailed it!!

[@alexojideagu]

This is something I always wonder. How does someone "Know" what being the opposite gender is like when you've never experienced it? How can you feel like something you've never been. I think SOME non binary and trans people have a fantasy of what being the opposite gender is like based on stereotypes. I'm not saying there are no legit cases.

[@robjohnson9270]

the BEST they can do is SPECULATE....we KNOW men and women think differently. It's preposterous and asinine to think that one could KNOW how the other gender thinks....it's arrogant and conceited....it's irrational and downright CRAZY

[@ktwashere5637]

its so so SO true. If you remove biology from the equation then what does being a woman even mean? The trans notion of gender is so sexist. its about clothes. Its also very conservative. Girls like pink and wear dresses and if you like pink and wear dresses then you must be a girl. That's absurd.

[@alexojideagu]

@@ktwashere5637 Exactly. I saw a fully trans "Man" on youtube complaining he doesn't understand other men or how men think and behave, and wishes he could still play on women's sports teams, and relates to women socially and emotionally. This person clearly doesn't understand men because they're not a man! I don't know how they think they're male.

[@alexojideagu]

@@robjohnson9270 Rob Johnson exactly, how can I know what a girl goes through emotionally and physically, with Puberty, periods, emotions, Cramps, body changes, hormones etc. And women's sexual expression is totally different to men, whether gay or straight.

[@aprilrae6551]

Yes, they have a 'fantasy' of the opposite sex. It's not based in reality at all.

[@shellymcgrew4412]

Courage to be yourself, listen to others being their selves and to grow in understanding the world around you, is a good thing. I see that with Macy.

[@michaelfischer1586]

Have always adored your voice (perfect as it is) and music. Strangely enough I can not recall having ever seen a interview with you before this outtake on the PM show. After such earned fame and success, I admire how genuinely down to earth you are with honest sincerity and healthy views and opinions. Macy my compliments

[@JP-qn4uo]

Don't agree with her on the flag, but so refreshing to see someone not afraid to say what a woman is! This gender ideology woke madness has gone waaaay too far, and it's time for people to speak out against the madness! She sums it up perfectly "But it's the truth!" So great to hear people who may not agree on things, but can have a civil conversation!

[@daliahenderson5771]

Totally agree!!

[@LanaW123]

Go to your child's school and make it clear that this is NOT OK when your 13.yo. child comes home and says he is bisexual.. Tell them that you are NOT giving any concent to any sexual indoctrination of minors. I did. Every parent must do the same. The woke gone too far.

[@brokenland5154]

I agree with this. The stars of the flag represent states, not the color of the people living there. Using her logic, since women are the majority of the country and did not have rights back when the flag was created, should we put a Venus symbol on the flag? No, because it was understood that the flag did not mean power or control over women, it represented all who lived under it, including women of the time.

[@brittaxX]

@@brokenland5154 you are completely correct and I love seeing people speak the truth.

[@terrancesimmons8056]

You clearly didn’t understand what she was saying but ok

[@medusaslair]

I am SO grateful that another celebrity finally has the courage to say the truth outloud. J.K. Rowling has had to carry this burden alone for long enough. More public figures and celebrities need to stand up for women, women's rights and the truth. Thank you, Macy and Piers! ❤

[@olandsmith2660]

Put her entire celebrity on the line. Wow

[@RealThisisA]

I'm grateful too.

[@sgrey2350]

Appearantly you have to have a uterus/breast in order to be a woman. Interestingly enough, plenty don’t. So the question is..what makes a woman a woman? (on a cellular level)

[@Wolf_90702]

@@sgrey2350 Gotta be born as one. If you're not then you're not a woman, female human being.

[@sgrey2350]

@@Wolf_90702 oh just how you have to be born with blonde hair in order to be a brunette later in life? Yea I’m gonna go with nope, you’re wrong.

[@LineaIbsen]

She is the breath and Heart beat of my youth 💜

[@CaribbeanPatience]

This was a nice interview. Very chill and informative 😊

[@taliyahs1918]

I try to say goodbye and I choke, I try to walk away and I stumble. Though I try to hide it, it's clear my world crumbles when you are not here.

[@fensterputzernuernberg]

She is really grounded.. i would say a very likeable person , a natural to interview.....

[@brittaxX]

I don't agree with her stance on the flag, but I appreciate this conversation and happy she is speaking out for women.

[@RONALD......]

Yeah the flag stays put

[@MissJade805]

Brittany Riot how was she speaking out for women?

[@ramanagal]

@@MissJade805 By defining us correctly and not going along with this push for MEN to co-opt our identities, spaces in the world, career opportunities (especially in sports), and essentially set any progress we've made back 100 years or more because MEN think that being a woman now only consists of their saying so--no parts even need to change! I actually received college credit in the '80s to learn all about "transexuals" at SF State, used to think I was so ahead of the curve in terms of what I knew about them, was in a punk band with a transwoman (no bottom surgery but at least hormones) and would always address her to reflect how she presented herself. Just like the abortion issue, this shit has gone too far (like abortion AFTER birth) and classical liberal values have been completely exploited for other agendas, like trafficking body parts and pushing for TRANSHUMANISM. F MEN in women's prisons, shelters, lockerrooms, bathrooms, bookclubs, sports or anywhere else that means WOMEN can't be safe, successful or just be themselves. I am still waiting to read about transmen breaking down the doors to compete against real men. Why is that? Because we have systematically lowered the expectations of what it means to be a man and because it is OBVIOUS that it would not be a fair competition and they would be creamed. Maybe for every transwoman who wants to compete, "she" needs to secure a transman to do the same. Or better yet, create trans competitions. That would be entertaining to watch that group decide on the rules!

[@hogwash3337]

The flag WILL change. Whether it's adding Puerto Rico and/or other territories, or states seceding. Count on it

[@hogwash3337]

@Utube Fknsucks - why is that?

[@dadyarusski4594]

I do agree with her views on biological sex, and that there are differences that can’t be changed like one would change a costume. They are real☕️

[@lisamuzz6973]

OH gosh I thought I am turning crazy, this world is turning mad, so refreshing to read the comments and to listen to fabulous Macy Gray..

[@janicehuff1183]

Thank you Macy, Bette Midler and JK Rowling for the courage to speak up and tell the truth. These are such sad times we live in, when in order to be "inclusive" towards one group, you have to use disrespectful and demeaning language towards another group, namely women. It has to stop.

[@staceypants5084]

Bette couldn't take the heat and changed her narrative very quickly

[@BassHeadsProduction]

so did macey rofl. Jk Rowling is the only one with a true backbone.

[@aprilrae6551]

They can roll, but we know how Macy and Bette really feel.

[@CHAD-fr4hh]

@@BassHeadsProduction it's not about "having a true backbone" it's about still maintaining your career after saying those things lol while i still don't see what was offensive about what Macy has said, i still know that others will be offended by it. And by "others" i mean her fans, her record labels, her crew that works for her and so on. There's a long list of people who works for her as well so i guess this is why she had to apologize (Even if she didn't even have to do that) It sucks that the world has come to this but i guess this is the "new normal" nowadays. It's sad but it's true.

[@reespace]

@@BassHeadsProduction they or their publicists?

[@houstonmarron]

She’s very good in being herself not minding whether the most powerful people in the world are watching her. That’s so chilling.

[@RavenLynn.007]

So sad she couldn't stand by what she said and walked back what she said here. Never apologize for telling the truth. Speak the truth, live the truth. Men can never be women.

[@ianhimmelstein5915]

Technically, she apologized for saying it in public but she never said she was sorry for what she said she knows what she’s doing

[@kizzerd]

Always loved Macy - she has such a storied past & her voice (especially nowadays) exudes true sincerity for diversity. Love you #MacyGray

[@miketexas4549]

If I tattoo all of my skin orange, dye my hair green, and stand in a hole in the ground all day, I'm a carrot. THIS IS THE LOGIC

[@arreyenowedmond2569]

You got correct bro

[@educational1651]

I thought you were gonna say Oompa Loompa.

[@jandramardges3368]

Can’t. Stop. Laughing!😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@blackkirbyopinion3355]

Bugs Bunny will love you lol 😆

[@qxqp]

Hello Mr Carrot