Exactly

Brother, thank you for this nuanced approach to a vital topic in the 21st century Church. So many focus on what Jesus did not discuss, rather than focusing on what He did say. I have done a fair amount of research recently on this topic, and have not yet heard such a clear application of the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Thank you and God bless you in your work.

❤❤ honesty in this. Being gay isn't about sex.

This was very good Justin.

When l became a Christian in 1982, God healed me of schizophrenia, but He didn't heal my being gay. It took 10 years to realize that I wasn't broken, the church is. 1946themovie proves the Bible is not anti-gay. God doesn't heal gay people of being gay because you can't fix what's not broken. Jesus came to give a new covenant. It's faith & Love. 1John3:23 ❤

Not it's definitely not a sexual temptation truly it is being in love with that person as a person not what they have between there legs

Great break down! This should be taught in middle and high school! We also need more art in middle and high school. We need more art and more love and kindness today and always.

I never understood the argument people make: “I don’t want to show my kids any kind of sexuality, so obviously that includes exposing them to homosexuality.” It is such a common argument and hearing it so often just confuses me. I’ve always thought about things the way you do in this video so I can’t even empathize.

Justin, you are a true Christian. You have been reborn again. Thank you for sharing your story with all. ✌️ peace, jim colahan

I love how you break down everything in simplicity step by step. Your video is now going to be my reference to challenge homophobia❤😊

Thank you for sharing this. ⛅️🌤️☀️

Good work Justin-it’s time that conservative Christians acknowledged the elephant in the room-that being gay is simply about sex, but the need for emotional intimacy,companionship and a remedy for loneliness. It simply isn’t viable or fair to expect gay Christians to be celibate and single for their entire lives.For a start, intense loneliness will destroy most people with depression,and leave them with battered self-esteem -especially comparing themselves with everyone else in the world who is part of a couple and a family.Loneliness,depression and low self esteem are not fruits of the spirit Friendships simply cannot meet the needs for companionship, intimacy or affection.friendships are emotionally detached and can’t enjoy the love or deep intimacy that a romantic relationship can. Also, friends simply can’t or won’t “be there for you” like a partner can.Straight friends have spouses and families to look after, and single gay friends are often very individualistic and self obsessed.

reminder to self to come back to 5:05 and transcribe it for myself. That really puts into words what I've been trying to articulate for 20 years

As a left-handed man, I’ve been experiencing this kind of discrimination so regularly that I’m used to it 😂

I wish your videos were available 30 years ago when I came out to my parents. Thank you, your videos are great

I'm gay and close to being asexual. lol. I don't really care for sex with other people, but I'll do it.

I’ve been in a committed same-sex relationship for 6 years. We own a house together, have a dog and two cats, he’s our church’s music minister and choir director in which I sing. All of that being said… We haven’t had sex for going on like 3 years? I love him with all my heart, and that doesnt have much to do with sexual desire most days. So it’s hilarious to me when being gay is equated with a sex. It’s about who you’re attracted to, sure, but who you romantically love, and romantic love is regularly devoid of sex. Ask any married couple of more than a decade.

I use the term Gay celibate to refer to myself because I am not interesting in sexual relationships before I am in a proper relationship with another guy

Love the video. ❤

Gurl i *wish* it was a choice I don't wanna be gay nah NAW *NAH* 😭

This was beautifully explained thank you

My problem with most churches' attitude towards gay people is this: no other sin will get you condemned this way. I don't believe being gay is a sin for one minute, the "clobber verses" are never speaking of equal, loving relationships of adult men. But even if you felt it was a sin, even a chosen sin... We don't treat adulterers this way, or liars, or any other sin. Only gay people are banished from God's house. That's not fair. In this one area, Christians allow their fearful bigotry, and hatred, to overrule the love they should have for their neighbor. And that's a much bigger sin than just being gay could ever be.

U had me subbing to u❤keep up the good work mate

Why would we CHOOSE to be gay according to some religious mfs? 😭 Like whyyy would we choose lesser rights and more discrimination 💀

This was the most useful vid I’ve ever seen. Ty!

Thanks a lot Justin. I just bought the first edition. I guess I have to forgive you, don't I. Really though, you've helped more people than you know. You'll need a knapsack in heaven to carry all the crowns you'll get before you cast them.

This is just so good. Thank you for creating this video essay so carefully! The illustrations are excellent

I lived THIS until the age of 57. I knew who and what I was but poorly defined "gay" as merely a temptation to be resisted. In my 30s (after one failed marriage to a woman), I met a lovely woman who quickly became my best friend. I confessed my homosexuality to her. We both held the same view that being gay was not a 'terminal' diagnosis. We were married for 20+ years and had one son. In 2020, I was afflicted with a crushing depression. Within that depression, I realized that much of my turmoil arose from trying to be someone I wasn't and the debilitating disappointment of coming face to face with the fact that, after 25 years of daily begging and pleading and denying myself God was never going to 'fix' me. I handled my coming out poorly (after 20+ years of fidelity to my wife, I had a hook-up with a man to be certain of who I was before I broke the devastating news to my wife. Before I could tell her that I knew now who I was and where my life was headed, She discovered my infidelity and asked me to move out. A legal separation followed and divorce shortly after. In the course of one weekend, I lost my family, my church, 90% of my friends (The 10% who stuck around did so to 'save' me from my sin) and it FELT like I had lost my relationship with Jesus. I have now been out for about 3 years but only recently found your channel. I'm loving everything about it.

To me the most hurtful thing is that I feel I was told directly that homosexuality wasn't as black and white as people make it out to be, and then again when I met a guy years later at an evangelical school that helps people decide on a careerpath among other things, but I could not and still can't believe in it because I've been told I just believe what I want for myself. The turning point was when I had been talking to this pastor guy (my mentor at the institution) for some months, and he had really been helping me, but then he dropped the bomb of wanting to introduce me to a celibate man. I remember I felt so hurt and misunderstood, this man who was telling me what he BELIEVED to be the truth and therefor wanted to send me on a path of utter loneliness all the while he could go back to his wife and family at the end of the day. People don't (want to) understand what they are asking of us yet do so so casually. Our desires are not hurtful to anyone in the process, it's not equatable to any other sin in that regard. But since it's so visible and a small percentage of the whole, itś easy to focus on us to make others feel better about themselves. We are the perverted deviants who chose their poison and they are the sinful christians who are 'truly' regretful of their sins. Christians make me sick, even if it's all real, I'm just so furious

Hi Justin. I watched this video twice. Glad to hear you say what you do. I am a gay Catholic, but am asexual. Trying to find another person like that is difficult. There are times when I ask myself if I did find someone that I truly loved and wanted to be with for the rest of my life would I want to have sex with him? It is a temptation for me to t if I had to chance to do it would I really do it? The other point I want to make is "gay" is only one of many titles we have i in this world. We are called by so many different titles. But the only real title or name that we have is "I am a child of God". I joined a Catholic men's group about twenty-two years ago and the first thing they asked in orientation was "Who are You?" I am not denying my being gay, but it is only a part of me. When we say I am gay to people most of the time they will think it is all about sex. That that's all it is about. I agree, a lot of gay people want it that way. Most gay guys want sex. A relationship? Maybe, but lets have sex first.

Some people are not born straight, that's all.

Confirmed bachelor

Years ago, I asked a native Greek on the subject of "arsénokitè" and "malakí" (I've chosen to write the pronunciation in Greek rather than the usual spelling in Latin letters). His answer was: Malakí means the feminine plural of "soft" which would be absurd for us to understand as effeminate males, or "used" males as some translations prefer to say... Arsénokitè is composed of Arsenios (god of fertility back then) + bed; which seem to denote a male prostitute who is sent to serve ladies on their premises... Those two terms are then used in another epistle, but this time coupled with "people who steal people" (or something along these lines, depending on the specific translation). Adding all this together, one would infer that St Paul in fact was referring to Sex Slavery: young girls, hunks and those who kidnapped them and/or sell their services.

wonderful video. absolutely loved it.

I grew up in a rather libertarian but at the same time socially conservative environment, where (after coming out to my parents, at a rather embarrassingly old age by today's standards, although of course they already knew) we somehow tacitly agreed to not discuss about it. I was never bothered about my personal life, as long as it did not affect the rest of the family (with which, mind you, I enjoyed an excellent relationship). Many many years after I moved out, had my own job, a rather successful career and a bf I lived with, I was discussing with my mom whether I should bring him home for the holidays. She genuinely looked at me perplexed and said, "well, I guess you could, but what am I then supposed to tell my friends?". It was not an accusation neither did this have any reprimanding undertone, it was a real concern of hers. I decided against bringing him so she actually never met him although I lived with the guy for a few years..... Whenever some of her friends made any unpleasant remark, she would always stand up for me, but still would feel uncomfortable about the situation, so I simply never put her through such a dilemma because she had been a really good mother in every other respect. I guess what I'm trying to say is that even the ones who try to understand gay people (especially the older generations) themselves dread social pressure, which makes their position not easy either. If a devout christian is embarrassed about his/her son being gay because it is mentioned as being a sin in the church on a weekly basis, it will probably be a larger step ahead to accept it.

That what I agree with. There is nothing explicitly wrong with being gay, straight, lesbian or what have you, but the issue arises when anyone acts on sexual urges outside of God’s laws, which applies to both straight and queer. Great info 😊 !

The song say, "I feel, pretty and witty and bright."

“Or watched rupauls drag race” lol. Although I don’t fit a lot a stereotypes, I sadly am guilty of rupaul-show attracted

I loled going up to a widow and saying “ I bet you’re going miss that sex”

Thanks for this. As a gay but celibate man who is also a retired minister in a conservative church this has given me a lot to think through. Thanks again.

Justin, im surprised that you have not said much about the term " homosexual lifestyle!" And its connotative oversimplified implication of choice and its impactive entrenchment upon the collective societal psyche.

The larger conversation that is not being had is " why is it so important for homosexuality to be seen as being chosen "? The reason is because, before something can be seen as being wrong, it first must be seen as being chosen, and, therefore subconsciously worthy of contempt and hatred through subjective comparison.

This topic has come up again recently in my life. There are many transgender men who identify as gay because they are men who are attracted to men, but not necessarily same-sex attracted. So even now, there are significant differences between "Gay" and "Same-sex attracted".

almost 4 years ago, at 57 years old and in 20+ year marriage to a woman, I had to face the fact that I was gay (an incredible bout of depression DEMANDED I learn to be honest about myself). When I met with my Pastor, the FIRST things he said was "let's get one thing, I've known you for 15 years. You are NOT gay! You might be same sex-attracted but you are not gay!" I was so incredibly confused and, honestly, deeply hurt that this man who was a true and respected friend to me would so callously invalidate a truth I had battled against for decades upon decades. It had cost me dearly to be open about who I was and what had felt my whole life and this man was totally invalidating that, insulting my sacrifices and inferring that I was ignorant my own self. That was the last time I spoke with him. Now, seeing your video, I think I realize that he was simply using outmoded terminology that was incongruent with my experience. Thank you for sharing this. So HAPPY to have found you content!

Right on! I totally get you, as someone who has an emotional attachment style.

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THIS VIDEO IS DYNAMITE JUSTIN!!! 💥💥💥💥💥

So true. I met you in Australia. I was a Baptist Pastor and missionary and married to my accepting wife for 51 years. I cared for her with MS for 26 years before she passed in 2022. I am now free to fall in love with a man and be the gay man I always was. I am not sexually active with anyone. But I am 77. Too old now for a gay relationship and physically not able to satisfy him. But when I go to the beach and see a really hot guy in speedos, I can pray, sincerely, Lord when you created that guy you did an amazing job. :-) I really do enjoy being gay. But the Baptist Church told me I am not welcome to even attend church because I am gay. Then that Baptist Pastor who told me that put a sign up outside saying "Everyone welcome".

A very valuable video. Thank you.

Thank you Justin