twenty minutes in and we finally get to almost making a v-block. great stuff. love the way you think brother.
@melgross9 күн бұрын
I waiting on a ?norton wheel. It’s silicon carbide, 60 grit, non porous, J hardness. It’s rated, by Norton for Bronze; Natural Stone; 300 Series Stainless; Aluminum; Brass; Titanium; Gray Iron; Masonry; Copper. I’ve never tried this before, so it should. E an interesting experience. I really mostly want it for cast iron, but I’m going to be trying g it on the other substances as well. I’m particularly curious as to how it works with stone as I wasn’t expecting that to be in the list.
@melgross14 күн бұрын
A lot of people wonder why high quality tooling costs so much. All they have to do is to watch these videos and they’ll understand.
@melgross14 күн бұрын
Since that edge is so fine, how quickly does it wear? We depend on the thickness of the wheel when normally grinding to make up for the wear on the front edge. There doesn’t seem to be anything to compensate for that wear when side grinding, something I’ve rarely done.
@Pappaoh15 күн бұрын
Great vid Barton fam. Hope things are well with you all
@stringmanipulator20 күн бұрын
you're a genius man ... how do you come up with all those cool jigs and fixtures ?
@REKKnivesАй бұрын
Hi, thanks so much for posting this video! Quick question... The dresser tool doesn't seem to be available any more, any recommendations?
@melgrossАй бұрын
I just caught your channel recently, so I’m trying to watch them in the order I need them rather than just starting at one. I must have missed something, but with the cheap diamond points for sharpening available these days, I was wondering why you couldn’t use that to level the surface, even if you wear a couple of them out.
@PappaohАй бұрын
I miss the heck out of you guys and your great vids. Hope all's well with you guys.
@darranedmundson1505Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this video; the time it took is appreciated. Did you fabricate that knurling tool yourself? I like how it isn't resists twisting.
@ChooChoo16Ай бұрын
Daryl Smith is my grandpa
@SolidRockMachineShopIncАй бұрын
You are very fortunate to have him as a grandpa. He is a super guy in my book. Steve
@mudnducs2 ай бұрын
Hope things are getting better for you. 🙂
@Mark4star12 ай бұрын
Thanks for that, very informative.
@rappy418613 ай бұрын
dress wheels and jig grind daily at work. three years experience. thanks for advice. :)
@SolidRockMachineShopInc3 ай бұрын
You are welcome.
@davidmata39924 ай бұрын
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@shannonsears34964 ай бұрын
I just grind right on center but my fixture is always set square. Ground some D2 punches recently on a harig head and no problem with taper. Stamping mylar so shot for 0.0001 a side clearance on punch guide and 0.0002 on die. Next time i find a little taper i will try going off center but don't think it matters much if care is taken to get fixture square. I was grinding a form with 2 different size radiuses and 2 flats. If I'm off center tangent points will be off so going off center in that situation would be bad. Nice video and ty.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc4 ай бұрын
You are welcome.
@mitralyoz43265 ай бұрын
ich hasse das wenn jemand so viel labert..
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
Easy fix, watch another channel or better yet create your own and show the rest of us how it is done.
@Vladimir_Viktorovich_Skrylev5 ай бұрын
👍💯
@radiusnorth16755 ай бұрын
First off thank you for the time and quality you and your family put into these videos. I realize this is an old post, but I'm hoping it might still get a response. As a hobbyist and rookie to grinding what wheel might be appropriate for surfacing a small mag chuck if NO coolant was available. Only hoping to achieve "reasonable tolerances" nothing like what you are producing!
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
I would go with a 46H porous wheel. Normally I would not use porous wheels on the mag but heat is going to be your greatest enemy here so the porous wheel will help a lot with that. Light cuts no more than .0003" and redress after 2 passes (.0006"). Finish cuts no more than .0001" and blank passes.
@niclascarlsson41505 ай бұрын
Hello! Did you find a solution for your surface grinder problem? I have the exact same machine, bought brand new. It´s capable of very accurate work and true mirror finish from certain angles. Problem is that when light hits in the "wrong" angle the surface finish looks like crap. Like a tractor tire pattern. Even the factory table grind looks bad in the same way. Impossible to get a UNIFORM surface finish, rough or fine! Niclas from Sweden
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
No. Johnny had to trade it in for a Hydrophilic Acer. The Acer is great. In the past I liked Chevalier grinders but will never by another new one after the bad experience with this machine. I will never recommend them to anyone again and warn others to stay away from this company.
@niclascarlsson41505 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc Ah, ok! I suspect something is wrong with the spindle on these machines(?). I have tried everything from dynamic balancing of wheels to special suspension of coolant hose to prevent vibration transfering from the pump. Adjusting Z-axis ways... It´s very frustrating because the machine grinds extremely flat and accurate, but not as pretty as one would like. Thank you for your answer!
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
@@niclascarlsson4150 We tried everything I could think of to fix it to no avail. I was getting a better finish at .005" depth of cut on my Acer than we could at .0001 depth of cut on this machine. And the Acer cut was 10 times better in on the profilometer. There was an extra coupling in the tool box that I never seen ship with a machine before and when Johnny received the machine that back spindle guard was removed which lead me to believe they tried to fix it before and yet sold it to Johnny as a new machine.
@SUNEELKANDA5 ай бұрын
I have been on the surface grinding field for a long time... But today's video taught me some important lessons.... Great video with great information.... Grab Love from your new Subscriber Suneel Kanda from India Uttar Pradesh Agra The City of Taj Mahal
@mashed-out5 ай бұрын
Dude you gotta fix that wobbly ass cog wheel...I'm gonna freekout watching it...that wobble has to transfer to part in some manner.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
Fixed a long time ago.
@dbensavage5 ай бұрын
Great video!
@SUNEELKANDA5 ай бұрын
I use the same technique to grind the sides with surface grinder, It's the best idea to grind with perfection... Grab Love from your Subscriber Suneel Kanda from India Uttar Pradesh Agra The City of Taj Mahal
@SolidRockMachineShopInc5 ай бұрын
Glad it help.
@Timeonabike6 ай бұрын
Great video mate, well explained. Thank you.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@brianhalicki40786 ай бұрын
Is the saltwater aquarium in the lobby of your office. I'd like to see it.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc6 ай бұрын
It was in the main entrance lobby.
@JHowell-kt5gx7 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, when you are measuring how round the part was on the surface plate, do you use the same method to identify taper in the part? Is finding the high spot at each point a valid comparison or is the part in the fixture not parallel to the surface plate?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc7 ай бұрын
Yes, this will show taper also. When measuring the part in the fixture you are checking the roundness of the part to the centers. If the centers in the part are not perfect they can hide the true roundness of the part.
@JHowell-kt5gx7 ай бұрын
How does the Indi-Square compare accuracy wise to the radius base indicator squareness comparator? Do you still use it?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc7 ай бұрын
The Indi-Square is nice in that it can travel up and down and check the whole surface of a part not just at point of contact like the Squareness Comparator checker. It is very accurate but not as much as the Squareness Comparator checker. To check the whole surface with the Squareness Comparator checker you have one more step involved. You need to check the flatness and parallel of the surface first. If it is flat and parallel then you know the whole surface is square even at a single point of contact. I use them both.
@TheZakkmylde8 ай бұрын
The diamond stone for dressing the wheel should it not be on a slight angle like maybe 15° so you can rotate it all the time to keep a clean edge. Otherwise won’t the diamond develop a flat spot?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
If it is a single point diamond then yes. If it is a cluster diamond then no.
@TheZakkmylde8 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc oh ok. Hmmm. I’m not sure what I have then. I assume if you look at it if it looks like it’s fragmented pieces together then I won’t have to rotate it but if it looks like it’s one piece, then put it on an angle.?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
A single point diamond has only one diamond in it but a cluster diamond has many diamond in it. Mine usually have seven smaller separate diamonds. What you are describing sounds like a "grit dresser" which is used for CBN wheels. It has many very small diamonds embedded in a metallic base which looks like a single unit. @@TheZakkmylde
@stockstergates40618 ай бұрын
where to buy the indicator base?
@stockstergates40618 ай бұрын
How can I buy the indicator base? thanks
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
Right now I am way behind due to same health issues for the last 4 years. Things are looking better now and I can do some work in the shop. I have 2 almost done and 10 in the machining stage. They are all spoken for but I am sure there will be some cancellations due the wait. I can out you on a long waiting list if you like. You can contact me here solidrock@nlbchapel .org. Do not put the space after nlbchapel. It is there because of bot harvesting. Steve
@sto27798 ай бұрын
22:50 - What about buying a used Brown & Sharpe Micromaster surface grinder? Would that be most likely out of spec? Thanks. 27:25 - Jeeze talking 25-50 millionths of inch here.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
Buying a used surface grinders is a throw of the dice. You may be getting a great deal or you may be buying an expense machine that will let you down. If possible bring a a few pieces of steel the same thickness and place them at different spots on the mag chuck and grind them to the same thickness. Check to see if they measure the same and without taper. If it passes that test you may have a good one.
@sto27798 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc Thank you sir for the reply. By far the most helpful information I have learned. I will take this advice. Also do you have any recommendations where would be a good place to find a low priced used reliable surface grinder?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
That I do not know. You can start by doing a web search in your area and keep an eye out for auctions listings. @@sto2779
@sto27798 ай бұрын
42:56 - Tenth a half for $2,500 Moore Jig Grinder... not bad. I believe these grinders have a max accuracy / tolerances of 2 tenths, so this means you have got them spot on when getting results of 1-2 tenths.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
I can compensate in the set up. So far I am happy with it. Used Jig Grinders are cheap in today's world. I have a friend who picked up one in way better shape than mine for under $50 at an auction. It was a moore #3 if I remember right.
@sto27798 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc Thanks you for the reply. It’s good to know you’re still active in KZbin. Your videos are cutting edge and inspirational. I am in the market to get one, but have no clue where to find one for a good price. $50? Wow, lucky guy. Have any recommendations where I could buy one? Thanks.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
I have seen good Moore #3 for about 8K jest for doing a google search in the past. You are talking about Jig Grinders right? Also, machine auctions are a good place.@@sto2779
@sto27798 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc Thanks for the reply. Yes, it is about Moore Jig Grinders #3. Right now I see every where not less than $5K. I found one on Facebook Marketplace, being sold for $3,500 but the seller told me that the upper unit is from model #2 and bottom is from model #3, which I find weird, two different models into one unit.
@orlandosanfeliz29569 ай бұрын
Congratulations that a very good job. 😊
@SolidRockMachineShopInc8 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😃
@absolute___zero9 ай бұрын
what "magnet" is he talking about? never heard that magnets are somehow related to ginding
@jacquelinesears17709 ай бұрын
Wheel load up "the wheel is what we call loaded"
@niceguydmm9 ай бұрын
We used a Norton Norbide stick back in my days at Talon as a tool and die maker to feather the wheel. Gave a nice cross cut. I remember dressing wheels down below a 0.100 thousandths and dropping slots in punches and holding .0001 tolerances. Mostly Zipper die tooling. Uses a Parker grinder. You did have to watch the fingers and be pretty confident on a surface grinder.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
I spent most of my working career in deep drawn stamping. Work on a lot of press tooling in those days. Before hard turning we did a lot of profile grinding.
@jmc69409 ай бұрын
I've been following you for Mabey 4 to 5 years now. I've been able to apply the knowledge I've learned from your channel in home guarge. It's truly a great feeling. Thank-you.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
That is awesome!
@harlech29 ай бұрын
Steve, when getting a new (used) machine that includes a chuck, should you true to bottom of the chuck as a matter of course? I have heard that it is best practice.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
I always do. I also grind the the table surface that the chuck gets fastened to. Steve
@harlech29 ай бұрын
Not joking, I learn 2 or 3 new things every video I watch from you guys!
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad they are helpful to you. Steve
@harlech29 ай бұрын
@@SolidRockMachineShopInc By the way Steve, I am not finding a website to purchase your products. Can you point the way?
@renee469 ай бұрын
How do I purchase one
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
I have one used one in great shape if you are interested. Steve
@sheriffroylambifs8949 ай бұрын
YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ACROSS THE BOARD !!!
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@wildcatmahone-md6me9 ай бұрын
Excellent info cheers from central TX.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@marceloiannini819910 ай бұрын
First time I sww the explanation why you should use the 15 degree angle on the diamond, so that you can rotate and expose a non-dull edge. Thanks!
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
You are welcome. It is most likely the number one mistake people make.
@billlawton891410 ай бұрын
I need help dressing a 6° angle on the side and all we have is a j& s dresser. Can you explain it to me please?
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
Check out this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/onm7lnRvlJ6Id9k Just don"t place your left hand on the unit like he does in the video. Those are nice units, I have used them many times and like them a lot.
@gerardlibut173910 ай бұрын
have you finished the modular set that you were talking about? its a nice thing to have
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
Yes we have.
@shannonsears349610 ай бұрын
This guy and the old man from Surburban tool have both made some of the most informative videos i have seen on KZbin. I disagree with them at times but their videos are a huge step above most videos on grinding. TY
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@shannonsears349610 ай бұрын
Good video. Thanks for showing how to dress a lip rather than trashing the side of the wheel with a norbide stick. I hate when people do that.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
You are welcome.
@shannonsears349610 ай бұрын
The dressing side of wheel to get balance was nice also. All the youtube wheel balancing videos seemed to omit that step.@@SolidRockMachineShopInc
@shannonsears349610 ай бұрын
Good informative video. The surface finish chart you showed is for cylinderical grinding, results will be different on a surface grinder or material other than 4140.
@SolidRockMachineShopInc10 ай бұрын
The point was that a finer grit does not necessarily mean a better finish. I have the same results on the surface grinder if not more so.
@charlieromeo766310 ай бұрын
Your mill turning reminds me of the VTL machines in our machine shop where I work. They have tables that are 30 feet in diameter. We have 4 of them. They are amazing.