Let Japan make the movies

Even the g man would not eat this toxin

Damn, I didn't know this was an issue in the fanbase back then. Sucks that it got worse over the years.

Donny while I agree with what you are saying and suggesting we need to realize the harassment is happening not to just select groups of people but anyone can be a victim. Charles Dunphey has posted harassment he has faced, and it actually came from a woman. I am supporting all that have been harassed Alyssa Charpentier, Kaiju Kim, you, and Charles as well as anyone else who has been harassed. And final Kaiju Battle is a safe haven as well.

Just tell Them this word: Phak Yoo

It's great to have this conversation now while we're still growing and can improve thanks. Subbed

These things happen in every fandom because these are basic patterns of humans. The conversation is important in every context and outlet, especially the ones where it is implicit, because for me, it has been best to examine my own biases previously in passive and implicit representations. I think it's definitely a very important conversation for every member of the community to hear or have, and I am regretful to learn that bigotry and abuse have been undercurrents of the fandom I hadn't heard about until finding this channel for the people hurt and those who weren't aware enough of the problem to try to do anything about it (I don't mean to say it would have ended if cishetwhite male allies joined the fray but just that it being a known topic of conversation about the franchise would have helped everyone's awareness in navigating these situations previously) If there wasn't a constant humanist fight corresponding to many of the people that are disproportionately affected by the seeming systemic issues you and others have brought up, maybe it would be easier to say that X film franchise fandom doesn't need to be all inclusive (but even then, I myself, a young adult Westerner, have so little in common culturally with the creators and intended audience of most of these films, and their ability to reach me means that they can reach anybody, so I think the very idea of this fandom calls for inclusivity) I agree that it is important to call out, because, as I've said, this fandom itself is a marriage of vastly different cultures, and, if someone is incapable of respecting people different than them, then they don't really belong in the fandom devoted to that (not a no true Scotsman fallacy, just literally the tools to be here) I don't think there is much else I can say, and if I crept back into any counterproductive thinking in this comment, anyone please point it out. We need to start and continue these important discussions.

Always a true champ of the Godzilla fandom. Thank you so much for this video and for making the community a better place!

Good video. I do really appreciate you looking for actual solutions rather than just pointing the finger at the next guy . I wish I had your same positive outlook on how to deal with fandom issues , but it honestly just gets so old . Like if you say you actually enjoy any of the lesser liked films in the franchise, people just come at you like a lynch mob . It’s like people aren’t even allowed to have their own opinions anymore. I remember I commented on one video that a KZbinr had posted talking about the 98 Godzilla and when I’m mentioned I liked it one user immediately attacked me and posted. nasty comment with like 10 laughing emojis at the end. Like wow could you be any more passive aggressive about it? The unfortunate truth is that some people are just assholes and don’t care to or just don’t know how to respectfully disagree with another person or just let that person have their own opinion and take on a film. It’s ridiculous and this is why I don’t go on any Facebook groups or discussion forms anymore.

First off, this video should have way more likes than it has. I agree 100%, Donny. Having tough conversations is part of life and part of the human experience. Why should that be a bad thing to some? The common “this happens in every fandom” is a typical response, but it’s important to be self aware and acknowledge that just because that may be true, it doesn’t excuse the toxic behaviors of some. We need to do better as human beings and as a community because the advantage that we have is being a still fairly niche fandom. It’s certainly growing, but still so intimate in size. We have the power together, to make things better! To those who have been affected by these toxic behaviors, just know that many of us, if not most of us, hear you and we see you. Much love everyone!

My solution: Just make it clear to the more toxic fans that they are not welcome.

there's already a change happening in the fandom as a result of this conversation. thank you all for being persistent

People getting defensive about this are so self-centered, its disgusting. Just people looking for ways to cope and avoid the main issue

Those are some pretty sound solutions, Donny. Oh, yeah you got my support, but you already know that.

You make great points and glad you made this video.

Easy 1. Handle peoples opinion on who the best and strongest Godzilla incarnation is and what the best era in the series is 2. No inappropriate fanart shipping is fine as long as it’s canon or makes since

Thank you so much for both videos! This is absolutely a step forward in the right direction and its past time this was taken more seriously 👏

Ive never even noticed any toxicity in the fans of godzilla. But im pretty new here. That reallt sucks for her.

Another excellent video, twin! At this point when I see the “all fandoms are like this” argument my eyes roll so far back I can see my brain. It’s so dismissive and completely misses the point. As for the “attention seeking” argument, I literally just wanted to get some stuff off my chest like I do on my channel from time to time. I wasn’t expecting it to explode the way it did. But if it’s leading to conversations that need to be had then so be it! Thank you for continuing the conversation and for providing solutions. Keep up the great work! ❤

We can’t always expect Godzilla to do all the work, it’s only up to us to make sure we keep the fandom in balance

A great video for addressing (diplomatically and in good faith) the criticisms of this conversation and for offering practical solutions. I hope things improve for people moving forward!

Man it was certainly an eye opener with everything you’ve said, honestly well done for not only call-out the negative but also follow up with how this community can be a better place. All to often I see people just say “this community is toxic” but never talk if there’s ways to improve. So it’s nice seeing done for constructive reasons instead of views.

I'm honestly quite glad to see that you're managing to take a positive perspective of "How can we solve these issues?" Often people will fall into a sort of doomeristic, "Why even bother?" mindset that prevents any sort of meaningful progress from ever occuring and I hope this video will help deal with that mindset. I'll admit that I've not fully seen through the video, and you probably end up addressing this, but in my opinion the solution to the issue at hand is just... Don't tolerate this behavior. Call anyone with this type of behavior out. Yeah, I can understand the sensation of not wanting to see a creator that you really like getting outed and leaving the platform, but you just have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. You have to understand that these are more than just buzzwords, under different circumstances you or some you care for could be abused by these people or people like them. That's all I have to say.

well done video. yeah, I can agree big issues like this are no longer things we can just ignore, especially when it greatly affects people within the fandom. I know it is probably going to take a lot of effort to make this fandom better then the dumpster fire it is now, but if we all work together I believe it can be done. we really need to do better if everyone in this fandom is going to feel safe.

This is really appalling. I have never interacted much with the Godzilla fandom, but I'm surprised with how bad it is currently.

It's probably because I'm a jerk, but I think one of the best solutions is to call these things out when we see it happening. The more that happens, the more the hate will get drowned out.

I agree with everything you said. I’m glad this conversation is continuing because this kind of behavior needs to get called out and handled. Fandom should be safer not another avenue for people to be bullies to each other.

I won't go to G Fest ever again after the experience my wife had the last time we went (right before they started spreading covid misinformation and general bigotry). I know folks have their friend groups who they meet up with there and maybe can't meet up with otherwise but holy shit I wish folks would just abandon it for new options. These conversations come up in every fandom and it sucks every time it has to happen but it's great to see folks speaking out and standing up for each other.

quit wining

I've been a fan for literal decades and been openly trans for a decade. I can't gage when I'm treated worse in the fandom-when I wasn't or was out as trans. Seriously, I think what makes this fandom so insidious with this stuff isn't just like...the handwaving it's the dismissal of going "this happens in every fandom" because literally no the fuck it does not, and it has *always* been this grotesque in this fandom,. It's such a weird fandom for it to happen in? Why is the, specifically, American fanbase of a Japanese franchise letting weirdos just say and do what ever the fuck they want? I think it's only gotten worse because of the fandom boom in 2013 when younger and newer fans flooded in after Pacific Rim and older gen fans were REALLY gross and weird about (mostly) literal kids getting into the fandom they seem to care so much about. There is this weird "we found it first, so we have control of the narrative/canon" in this fandom that's so distinctive. Like as in, actively attempting to appropriate the characters (and sometimes creators and creator comments on said characters) within their own ideology/mindset specifically with complete lack of awareness or nuance of Japanese viewpoints, culture, or politics. I say this as someone who wasn't out in 2014 and was sent death threats after saying I had a Head Canon of a monster being a girl! I have a lot of close friends I've made through the fandom and G-Fest, but I eventually just kind of had to step the fuck back because a lot of these people get so absolutely intolerable.

This is very sad to hear. I live in Taiwan and I've never been to G-Fest, but hearing that that sort of behavior goes on at the event? That needs to be called out for sure. Thank you for bring this to light.

People complaining about words have never felt real pain, that's just a fact.

NGL it makes me sad when a YTer or just overall social media person I follow says they will step away from a fandom I love but then I realize I am kinda doing the same thing with Star Wars now Like after the Mandalorian S2, people just seem so bent on complaining about every show afterwards to the point where it is just pointless ragebait over nothing until it circled back to hating on the Mandalorian S2 saying it was only ever good cos "it had cameos" 😔 The Goji fandom is starting to have that now. It's been exposed to a larger audience but sadly that larger audience has some loud annoying, nitpicky fuckers

This sucks. Fandom can be such a great thing that can bring so many people together. It's so irritating and sad when it turns into a double edged sword that also brings in bad actors into the space as well. We should be making sure that the community feels safe and welcome above all else.

Having been a die hard Godzilla fan all my life I found this hard to believe at first. But after watching some of these videos and looking into what was being said I was disgusted by what I found. Fandoms are, by their original nature, places for inclusion and shared likes, often likes that would be mocked out in common culture. That people were made to feel so awful that they willingly removed themselves form a community that they should have been welcomed into to enjoy, by the vary said community that I consider myself a part of, makes me feel ashamed. I know that it's not much but I hope that this little bit of typed support helps, if even only a little.

that whole video hurt my soul, I've been lucky enough for my friends in this fandom to be great, but to know others don't have that experience and have to endure horrible behavior breaks my heart

Well shit, I thought she was fun and lighthearted. I was thinking of going to GFest to meet everyone for the first time. There always idiots ruining it for others. My thoughts… maybe start a fresh new Godzilla celebration somewhere else. I always wondered what it was like. Never been to G Fest.

Why did everyone simultaneously think to make a video like this?

WTF is a Godzilla Fandom?

Honestly I’m really disappointed how the fandom has turned out. Especially how Alyssa got treated is just horrible! I hope she’s doing well. It makes me wish that Godzilla didn’t become so mainstream and was still niche. I still love Godzilla and the franchise but it’s really frustrating when the fandom has become so divided that it’s hard to talk about what we like. That’s why I choose entertainment over fandom anytime. Nice video.

That’s the reality we live in unfortunately.

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As Old Solitary Godzilla Fan I never go in G-Fest in my entire Because when I was in Puerto Rico for long years there doesn't have any G-Fest Events in my island to be honest never were but reacting this video is very shocking for the situation of the fandom is very shocking.

Baffles me how nobody has really talked about this until this point. I had no clue this kind of stuff was going on at G-Fest of all places which is just bizarre, which I was planning on going to next year but now……. yeah………… Shit sucks, why can’t we just like Godzilla and not be creepy weirdo losers lmao?

This sucks to hear but thank you for making this. We all have to do our part!

I have no desire to fight with people over social media regardless , I just don't have it in me and it fucks my mental health, I am not gonna get involved sorry, I already don't like fellow fans at the best of times.

I hate that I have to agree with you. I feel like so many of us grew up being made fun of for liking Godzilla and other kaiju films. We should ALL be as inclusive, welcoming, and as warm as possible to our fellow fans regardless of race, gender identity, or anything. There is zero excuse for this kind of behavior. We're in a golden age of Godzilla, we should be celebrating not assaulting, stalking, verbally harassing, or threatening our fellow fans. I have personally been ignorant to this behavior at G-Fest but as a guy who typically keeps to himself, I suppose I haven't been on the lookout for it. I absolutely will be now as NO fan deserves any sort of harassment. I miss when I thought the toxic people were those that hated the monsterverse for being goofy. That was so much easier to stomach.

Oh, if I see something wrong or inappropriate oh, you damn right I'm calling it out.

I've been binge watching this show and am sad I started it this season (I need to go back and watch prior seasons). I must say, what you're doing here is monumental. This show carves out a space for people to share their Godzilla journeys and allows viewers to learn about how diverse our fandom is. I also love that you centralize marginalized voices - LGBTQ+, women, BIPOC, and neurodiverse perspectives. Please don't stop doing this important work because it's making a difference.

I've gotten death threats against me and my family for saying the stupid Monsterverse sucks. He looked up my home address and said he'd come find me.