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@goatman3358
@goatman3358 11 сағат бұрын
Great video. Wiki says Novella 1953, novel 1961. Would be interesting to see how much was added in the novel, hopefully just fleshed out more (i liked your review and listening to the novel’s audiobook now).
@Eckendenker
@Eckendenker 20 сағат бұрын
Yes yes yes, thank you, this will be a pleasure. I just finally managed to get a friend to start reading it and am on a huge reread experience.
@unstopitable
@unstopitable Күн бұрын
Yet another one to add to my TBR list. Thanks, Sci-Fi Shed. The interesting thing (to me, at least) is how every ranking has an effect on every other work (in that category). It's tough, man. It would drive me nuts. I enjoy watching you do it, though.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Күн бұрын
Thank you kindly, it doesn't get any easier :) but I try.
@8020Alive
@8020Alive Күн бұрын
Red Mars Moving Mars Mars Plus So many mars memories when i was younger. Good stuff. ✅
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Күн бұрын
Indeed, so many great novels that had/have us marvelling at the stars and the wonderful planets that are orbiting them.
@vintagesf
@vintagesf Күн бұрын
If my count is right this is the 45th novel on the ladder. What an accomplishment! Five more and you could make a top 50 video!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Күн бұрын
Thank you kindly Richard, that's a great idea. I'll definitely do that. 👍
@rachelpsmith3129
@rachelpsmith3129 5 күн бұрын
Memorable book. One of Miéville's best along with Embassytown and the last two Bas Lag novels. I think I like this one with the least reservations out of the four. Miéville always excels in cleverness and invention but all the rest also worked well for me. The problem you menton with the prose crops up for me too -- I can't point out any particular flaws but it requires extra effort in unexpected places that just aren't clear like they could be. Miéville's reach exceeds his grasp but that's not a bad flaw as flaws go.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 5 күн бұрын
@@rachelpsmith3129 thanks for the comment. Yes, he definitely has some great ideas and some great books. I'm glad I'm not alone with the prose issue 😁👍
@NevsBookChannel
@NevsBookChannel 7 күн бұрын
Nice review. I haven’t read any Mieville yet but I’ve got Perdido on my bookshelf waiting for me
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 5 күн бұрын
@@NevsBookChannel thanks Nev, lI'm looking forward to your review of it.
@andrapascale-henke2692
@andrapascale-henke2692 7 күн бұрын
What a wonderful review! Looking forward to reading this book!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 7 күн бұрын
@@andrapascale-henke2692 Thank you kindly 😊 I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
@TRYCLOPS1
@TRYCLOPS1 7 күн бұрын
I liked it. It was a bit confusing at times tho but got easier the more you read. Dune influence is there for sure. Unspace was a great idea and probably the most interesting aspect of the whole world-building. It was a bit terrifying. Got the second book right away but at the same time got the first Mistborn novel and after I was done got the other two so haven’t been able to get to it yet unfortunately… and also got the first book of Stormlight Archives smh 🤦‍♂️
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Күн бұрын
I've recently finished a review of the Eyes of the Void, please keep an eye out for it.
@KToll5784
@KToll5784 7 күн бұрын
A serious misunderstanding of the story. The spiders seem like humans because the human interpreters are actively interpreting their society, not just their language. This is explicitly explained. Trying to understand a completely alien language would be useless without some kind of social context.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Күн бұрын
Fair point, but all too human for me nevertheless
@8020Alive
@8020Alive 8 күн бұрын
+1 to the scar 🎉 - It doesn't have the biggest of scope..... But the environment and the characters are so well drawn and so poetic with descriptions. It's an amazing read if you play some experimental music in the background. He's an incredibly talented author. Shame he didn't produce more or push science fiction elements more.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 8 күн бұрын
I haven't read scar, another one to add to the TBR, thank you :)
@stephenmorton8017
@stephenmorton8017 8 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed Perdido Street Station and The Scar but I remember reading a so-so review of this one and passed it up. I actually have another copy of The Scar here to reread someday. I found that this type of fiction really appealed to me. The weirder the better. A tough one to rank. I considered it alternate universe fiction. Have you watched " Counterpart " you would probably really like it if you haven't. Cheers.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip Stephen, I need to add The Scar to me TBR. I just read a quick premise of "Counterpart" it does sound interesting, I'll check if it is available from my streaming providers.
@SFVintageCollector
@SFVintageCollector 10 күн бұрын
Great review thanks for sharing your thoughts, will add to the list to find and read
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 9 күн бұрын
@@SFVintageCollector you're welcome
@bookishmartin
@bookishmartin 12 күн бұрын
This is my least favorite of the Hugo and nebula winners that I've read so far It seems much more like a stage play than a novel With all the action taking place off stage And lots of expository dialogue.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 12 күн бұрын
@@bookishmartinthat's a similar comment that Paul, a few comments below made. Perhaps that was the point Fritz was driving at, and maybe if it was read that way, one may appreciate it more. 🤔
@newsfromthegelding
@newsfromthegelding 14 күн бұрын
Very short novel indeed! I've only previously heard of Fritz Leiber's sword and scorcery stuff, had no idea he'd won the Hugo for this one. Interesting premise despite the flaws. Might have to get a copy! Cheers for the review Pete!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 11 күн бұрын
My pleasure mate, it's definitely worth the read.
@paulcooper3611
@paulcooper3611 14 күн бұрын
I think part of your problem with 'The Big Time' is a matter of perspective. You were expecting an adventure story from Fritz Leiber, the teller of tall tales. What you got was a story from Fritz Leiber, the actor. I came across a review that explained that the story is a one-act play. You have a limited number of characters trapped in a single stage set who interact with each other in very subtle, and often confrontational, ways. If you approach it that way, you find yourself looking in awe at what Leiber accomplished. At least, that was the way it was for me. Also, let it sit for a few years and come back to it. It tops the list for re-readability.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 14 күн бұрын
Very good point Paul, i should revisit this book again in a couple of years. I did get that 'one-act play' feel to it. My mind wondered a few times to the teleplay "12 Angry Men" i definitely see that 'play/actor' in the novel. Very nice food for thought, thank you Paul, much appreciated.
@LiamsLyceum
@LiamsLyceum 15 күн бұрын
This is a great novel but I seem to be in the minority from other contemporary opinions I’ve heard. What a showman and stylist Leiber was.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 15 күн бұрын
I actually agree with you, I just felt a little let down, I thought it could have been even better than it was. I still rate it highly, but hard to justify its place on the sci-fi shed ladder above where it finally ended. Where would you have ranked it?
@paulcooper3611
@paulcooper3611 14 күн бұрын
I have to agree with you. This is one of those books that I go back and read every decade, or so. And, yes, it has faded in my memory so I have the pleasure of reading it again for the first time.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 14 күн бұрын
You've inspired me to reread it with that actor/play lens, maybe it would have ranked a little higher with that in mind. :)
@mikehallaron
@mikehallaron 16 күн бұрын
A good read! Just read this one recently.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 16 күн бұрын
@@mikehallaron nice! Was there anything I said that you agreed or disagreed with?
@mikehallaron
@mikehallaron 15 күн бұрын
@@thesci-fishedAgree there was so much here that contributed to the foundations of D&D. That was what drew me to the book. This was my first Poul Anderson read. I knew that Science Fiction was his primary genre. I really enjoyed “Three Hearts” but I didn’t make a connection to Tolkien. Like you, I thought it felt more Arthurian, but with a strong tie to Moorcock’s chaos vs law Elric universe. Fun read!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 15 күн бұрын
@@mikehallaron Nice one. I have "The Broken Sword" on my TBR, i'm looking forward to reading it. I think it 's been close to 40 years since I read that one. Should definitely be a trip down memory lane.
@carlzeichner8168
@carlzeichner8168 20 күн бұрын
The hero's real name is Holger Danske, a major figure in the Danish imagination. When the Danes formed a resistance group against the Nazis, they use his name.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 20 күн бұрын
Ah right, that's an interesting tie in I was not aware of. Thanks for sharing.
@user-pj8so8kf1c
@user-pj8so8kf1c 20 күн бұрын
I definitely love this book!!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 20 күн бұрын
Nice one!
@thomassmith6232
@thomassmith6232 20 күн бұрын
I love this book! It would be great to see a movie of it!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 20 күн бұрын
Yes indeed, that would be fun.
@no-pie
@no-pie 20 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, the "traveling to another world" (obviously in a fantasy, not science fiction way) is one of the tropes that interest me the least. And gaining certain "lessons" from that travel for our world... Also, incorporating existing myths (like from, say, Shakespeare) into the different world, as a sort of explantion for their origin in our world. Or like it is a great surprise and discovery (a rather dull discovery, honestly). I just don't like it particularly much. To me, it feels a little antiquated, like Victorian whimsy.
@walterroche8192
@walterroche8192 20 күн бұрын
Amusingly enough it was quite big in 60's-80's Fantasy & Science Fiction literature. Sadly several authors latched into the trope and made careers of it.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 20 күн бұрын
I can definitely appreciate your point of view, it is a little dated but I still enjoyed the trip down memory lane.
@RichardPhillips1066
@RichardPhillips1066 12 күн бұрын
Its been replaced by litrpg , new mainstream fantasy is nearly always about an Indigenous Protagonist
@NevsBookChannel
@NevsBookChannel 21 күн бұрын
I just looked up Appendix N in the 1st edition Dungeon Masters Guide (a list of books for inspirational reading) and sure enough, it’s the first book listed!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 20 күн бұрын
haha, I just did the same and indeed, there it is, appendix N as you say.
@drzander3378
@drzander3378 7 күн бұрын
'Three Hearts and Three Lions' was very influential on D&D. The versions of the troll, nixie and swanmay in the book - though already extant as mythical creatures - are direct lifts. D&D's concept of a paladin was influenced by 'Three Hearts' and the AD&D 1st Edition gnome is, I believe, based on Hugi. The latter is described as a 'dwarf' in the book but his physical and supernatural characteristics closely match those of D&D's earliest gnomes. I asked Gary Gygax, co-creator of D&D, about that once and he said that while it was possible that Hugi was the inspiration for D&D's gnomes, he couldn't remember as it was too long ago.
@davidbrewer9030
@davidbrewer9030 21 күн бұрын
Poul is one of my favorite authors, both for fantasy and science fiction. Another author is Lord Dunsany, who wrote, among other things, Beyond the Fields We Know, and The King of Elfland's Daughter.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 21 күн бұрын
I'll have to keep an eye out for him, thanks for the tip.
@paulbeardsley4095
@paulbeardsley4095 18 күн бұрын
@@thesci-fishedHis stories are very mixed. Some are like, really obvious allegories at best, where (for example) time is the enemy that ages you. Other times it’s immersive fantasy of the best kind.
@gruingas
@gruingas 21 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for the tip!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 21 күн бұрын
You're most welcome
@gon8go
@gon8go 21 күн бұрын
I just picked that one up the other day. I read the broken sword by him a few months back so I'm definitely going to get to this one.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 21 күн бұрын
I've got the Broken Sword on my TBR, it has been 40 years since I last read it.
@matthewgilmore4307
@matthewgilmore4307 22 күн бұрын
very excellent beard
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 22 күн бұрын
hahaa, thanks mate, sadly, it's had a bit of a hair cut lately, but there's still a couple of videos where you can see it in all its glory :D
@unstopitable
@unstopitable 22 күн бұрын
You might like the channel of KZbinr "TheWorstThingAboutNewBooks." He has video(s) that go into detail about the books that inspired Gary Gygax. Thanks for putting this book on my radar. Cheers.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 22 күн бұрын
I'll check it out!
@rickcantrell5302
@rickcantrell5302 22 күн бұрын
Very perceptive review of a classic fantasy novel. I read and loved this book many years ago, and this inspires me to give it another read, since as you mention, it's only 150 pages. I also loved The Broken Sword, The High Crusade and Harold Kraki's Saga. Still looking forward to reading Operation Otherworld, A Midsummer Tempest, The Merman's Children and Conan the Rebel. And that's only looking at his fantasy output! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this book!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 22 күн бұрын
you're most welcome, and it's so true Poul Anderson was so influential, I need to feature him a bit more on this channel.
@doug2424
@doug2424 24 күн бұрын
Loved deathworld, stainless steel rat, and alittle newer west of eden. Your bookshelf looks like mine. LOL.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 24 күн бұрын
Nice! Is that the contents of the shelf or the shelf itself? I've got three Ikea bookshelves behind me, good value, at least for the shed 😁😁
@doug2424
@doug2424 24 күн бұрын
@thesci-fished alot of books I've got over 500 books From my childhood. Science fiction that is.
@doug2424
@doug2424 24 күн бұрын
Looks like you got the original 3 books of death world close to it. Maybe I got the trilogy In a single book.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 24 күн бұрын
@@doug2424 I used to have a much bigger collection but culled so many books when the kids came along, glad I have my little shed where I can collect a few more. I'd love to see pictures of your collection one day.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 24 күн бұрын
@@doug2424 yeah I have a few harrison novels and all the deathworld novels, plus some later releases as well. There's a few a Harry Harrison in there and I have pretty big ebook collection of Harrison as well.
@allopez8563
@allopez8563 29 күн бұрын
If this Malthusian non sense had took hold in the times of Asimov most of us wouldn't be alive. In caves of steel the Population was 8 billion and they lived crammed in caves of steel 😂. Food and renewable resources are populations too and it seems population controls itself naturally actually declining in first world and developing countries like Argentina and in some third world countries.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished 22 күн бұрын
Yeah I hear you, makes for an interesting novel though :D
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
Deathworld 1 & 2 are free on the Internet.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
There are also some good audiobook of Deathworld 1 and 2 on the internet.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
This is weird. It is also named *The Killer Thing* I have never seen the title Killing Thing before.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Yes I've noticed that as well.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
*The Uplift War* is the only one in the trilogy really worth reading.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
It was my favourite of the series as well!
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
*Citizen of the Galaxy* to prepare for the weirdness of: *Stranger in a Strange Land* Heinlein's supposed preachiness never bothered me. I don't mind thinking about ideas even if I disagree with them. I decided that I was an agnostic at 12.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Good suggestion, I still think this one is also a good place to start. I don't mind reading new ideas even when I don't agree with them, however I sometimes feel his tone is a little condescending which gets a little under my skin at times lol
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
No! LOL
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
😁 which do you think will top the chart when it's all said and done?
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
@@thesci-fished Ender's Game The Uplift War The Dispossessed I would rate *The Mote in God's Eye* higher than EG but it only got nominated.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
@@psikeyhackr6914 Ender's is definitely going to be a contender . The others are all great novels, and worthy contenders as well, but when I applied my criteria on them, they just didn't rank as highly.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
@@thesci-fished That is the issue, ain't it, *"My Criteria"* ? The *Mote in God's Eye* has the best aliens with a description of their culture. Hyperion does not come close to my Hard SF standards. Science is what makes the stuff science fiction.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
@@psikeyhackr6914 that's the wonderful thing, the reading experience is really personal and very subjective. That's why I love to talk to fellow SF fans, so nice to hear of your personal tastes. By the way, I absolutely loved The Mote in God"s Eyes, the CoDominium universe was awesome.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
*The Long Tomorrow*
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
I'll see if I can get it. 👍
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 Ай бұрын
You should check out: *Voyage from Yesteryear* by James P Hogan Another economic dichotomy story but it has a resolution. I suspect Hogan knew more about economics and technology than Le Guin.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll see if I can hunt it down.
@user-zo7mr3op8i
@user-zo7mr3op8i Ай бұрын
If you trawl charity shops you will have sometimes been lucky enough to pick up a nice collection by a single author. It happened to me once or twice -a dozen nice Charles Sheffield books in one go, Just about every one of the Warlock books by Christopher Stachaff (?), a nice pick of rare Asimovs... If you are lucky enough to find all the Sector General books...GRAB THEM.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
You're right, charity stores are great. I've not been as lucky as you have been but you do get some great novels.. When I thinned down my collection 30 years ago due to the kids coming I gave my whole correction to charity. It was bigger than what I have now. Someone could have hit a jackpot 😊
@user-zo7mr3op8i
@user-zo7mr3op8i Ай бұрын
@@thesci-fished It will have been stripped of good books as quickly as a cornfield is stripped by locusts!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
@@user-zo7mr3op8i hahaha, yeah, I'm sure
@rachelpsmith3129
@rachelpsmith3129 Ай бұрын
Your videos are just so enjoyable! One of my top ten novels, not just sci fi novels, even above her LHoD. But I can only say that at age sixty now. The Dispossessed has grown in its inner impact on my conscious thoughts day by day as I have grown in years. It's gradually become one of the books that informs my world.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the lovely comment, I hope you continue enjoying my videos. Isn't it interesting your these books grow with you? One of the things I've really enjoyed about rereading these great novels with sometimes a gap of 30 years, is how my younger self missed some of the things that I picked up on now in my 50s. And what appealed to me in my 20s hasn't had the same impact today. You've gotta love books for that 😁
@SFVintageCollector
@SFVintageCollector Ай бұрын
Recently pickup up the book - 'The Practice Effect' by Brin with the same livery (Bantam Books). Nice little review
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Nice! Thank you for the comment
@SFVintageCollector
@SFVintageCollector Ай бұрын
Yes that would be a haul, thanks for sharing. Love an unboxing especially vintage SF and fantasy. Keen to checkout the Edmund Cooper (also a new author for me).
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Thank you for your support, I still have a few Cooper's on my tbr list
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 Ай бұрын
Economy of prose is a plus for me. I’d never heard of Bayley, or at least never came across any reviews. Sounds good.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
I enjoyed this one and I agree economy of prose is a good thing but at times it did feel a little rushed. ,
@bookspin
@bookspin Ай бұрын
Great review! First time I've heard of this author, but I do like philosophical SF and this sounds intriguing.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Thank you buddy, I think you'd enjoy this one
@gon8go
@gon8go Ай бұрын
I'm down for all 31 robot flavours!
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Hahaha, you'll enjoy this one then,
@gon8go
@gon8go Ай бұрын
@@thesci-fished I'm actually reading collision course by him right now.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
@@gon8go how are you finding it?
@gon8go
@gon8go Ай бұрын
@@thesci-fished Interesting. too soon to judge.
@SFVintageCollector
@SFVintageCollector Ай бұрын
Great little review thanks for sharing - new sub today (love to see a fellow SF channel)
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
Thanks buddy
@razumijinatreides4691
@razumijinatreides4691 Ай бұрын
It's a really weird novel. It feels so different to other PKD novels which is one of my favourite authors. The concept is extremely interesting, that's for sure, but the execution doesn't work too well for me.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
I find a lot of PKD strange, but I always enjoy it.
@gon8go
@gon8go Ай бұрын
Ive read a bunch of her stuff and I really like her writing. This will be the next book of her's I get to.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
I'm sure you'll enjoy it
@unstopitable
@unstopitable Ай бұрын
Great characters, great story, but what I found most interesting was the novel's structure. Also, what I found striking (and brilliant) was how she was able to convey the differences between the two cultures (the pros and cons) as the characters experienced them. The world and characters felt very real, as did their biases, preferences depending where they came from. There was one scene (when they were children) I found particularly moving. It's one of those novels that's stayed with me, though I read many years ago. She's very good at writing male characters. Patricia Highsmith was good at it, too. Anyway, it does lack dramatic tension. For what it's worth, I agree with your ranking. Thanks for the video.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you so much for your support.
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 Ай бұрын
I remember this novel reminding me of Dostoyevsky. It’s been too long since I read either writer, so I can’t elaborate.
@thesci-fished
@thesci-fished Ай бұрын
I can see why you would say that, I've not ready anything on Dostoevsky since leaving school,