3 Interpretations of Summer

[@audreyyyhappened6831]

"Sometimes people you love are just more compatible with someone else." This hurts my dudes.

[@RojoandtTorta]

audrey seee: yeah that one hit really hard lol

[@jameshall5556]

AGH! STOPPPP

[@7Mushrooms7]

One of the hardest lessons we have to learn.

[@lenalena8710]

@@7Mushrooms7 I'm learning it right now.

[@lenalena8710]

Or just have more feelings towards another person. No matter how hard you tried. It's so awful!

[@a.l.michael6240]

It’s always hard to accept that you may not be the love of somebody’s life.

[@DJSlaughter]

I needed to hear that in my teenage years

[@a.l.michael6240]

DJ Slaughter yeah me too

[@MM.Ent175]

i've learned it the hard way.

[@hamza12ism]

@@DJSlaughter here here

[@jonathanreynosa3261]

Hamza Nadir yeah honestly,well said

[@nicoleo6413]

Man, this movie's portrayal of dating and relationships will age like wine. It fees more relatable now than it did in 2009

[@rediah]

Each time I watch this movie, I always uncover a layer.

[@moistass5573]

That rhymed

[@ClaireMakesVids]

@@rediah for real it was so ahead of it's time tbh

[@VirandoGringa]

totally!

[@louiejanedorian2825]

The best movie ever

[@primadonnaqueen3685]

A major detail that i love in that movie is at the very end where Summer describes how she met her husband, and she said 'Tom was right'. Showing how Tom changed her perspective a bit just like how she changed him. From her perspective, Tom is the manic pixie dream girl. I love how you can tell there are two completely different stories happening at the same time, but you only see Tom's perspective. Summer still existed even when she was off the screen.

[@dontleadmedry]

"From her perspective, Tom is the manic pixie dream girl." !!!! amazing 🤯

[@FIREGOD333]

this the most underrated comment i ever seen💯 its true we never really see her off screen so a lot of her perspective , inner monologue, motivations/intentions etc is missing. but she tried her best to convey that she is scared of opening up and getting hurt and shed rather just have fun no strings attached and she did her best to be upfront about it and literally everyone is responsible for their OWN actions and decisions including tom and its not her fault he was a bit delusional and not wanting to see things for exactly what they were. both of the characters had a lot of growth but we dont really know much about summer so we dont see all the struggles she also faced. and so its a lot of butthurt incel losers who watch this and think shes an awful person because the movie only showed one perspective. and its really just very representative of life. because u wont always know. people wont tell u every thought inside their head. but i dont think its a healthy thing to assume someone had ill intent or was a pos or "only wanted attention" or whatever. people are so complex and multidimensional. some people cant handle that theyre not in control of how someone else chooses to live their life. because theyre not yet in control of theirs, taking accountability for their choices, and still in a victim mindset screaming to the hills that everyone else is the problem. this movie wasnt as toxic as people would have acted in real life, reason for that is because its an opportunity for the viewer to also grow as a person while watching. thats why i love this movie. summer was someone who was in full control of herself and her actions, she knew what she wanted and didnt want, and also had the heart to not be a decptive asshole despite the fact SOME people will still perceive her as such. she told tom what it was from the start. he is responsible for himself and where he chooses to steer the ship of his life.

[@neptunianheart]

@@FIREGOD333!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@yashsinghal1023]

​@@FIREGOD333i really feel you are neglecting the fault of autumn throughout... She wasn't entirely in clear and despite making her intentions clear it's true she tried to initiate things in between which is not just friendship. Both are wrong in some respect

[@millyv8787]

I agree, I believe they both came into each other's lives for a reason, but not to end up together.

[@AnAstronautsLoveLet]

The hard part isn’t that someone doesn’t like you and just flat out rejects you. That part gets over fast. Hard part is when someone isn’t compatible with you but also attracted to you to the point they won’t reject you or commit to you, they would go along with the feelings you have for them for a long time because they sincerely do like you, but eventually end up with someone they are compatible with and break your heart.

[@rudra_rps_0202]

should we put in efforts for that person or not?

[@ranitmandal6542]

@@rudra_rps_0202 nope years will pass by you'll find yourself in a ruined life and a ruined mental health...

[@rudra_rps_0202]

@@ranitmandal6542 👍 thanks for saving me then

[@markmywords12u]

@@rudra_rps_0202 no, got in 6 yrs deep off of a hs relationship, but realize it wasnt worth it

[@vincentphilippart4669]

Exactly. The cruelest way you can act is treat someone like a buffet. Taking whatever is convenient and pretending it's their fault the rest is left to rot on the table, because they shouldn't have displayed something you did not want. Summer should have dumped Tom. Honesty is not enough. You need to be accountable for what your actions cause. Even if you don't intend it. If you're able to see the pain happening in consequence of your choices, it's your mess.

[@woesella8509]

" how many of us entered a relationship thinking we can love someone enough to that they will change ?" That hit me hard

[@hazzelnut28]

It happened to me. Used to be in a romantic relationship with a woman, and that woman told me "she doesnt look for a serious relationship" we had sex and did all it requires to be in a serious relationship. I thought i can change her thinking by doing many romantic things to her like picking her up from work, buying flowers, romantic dinners , vacations after vacations and all, after 8 months she still doesn't want it and i left the country to forget her. It was so sad and depressing, but i have moved on yet we are still a good friend till now.

[@woesella8509]

Dendy Triputra atleast you did everything you can and if she still doesn't want a relafionship , maybe she has her reasons . I don't know if you believe in fate but I do. When the karmic wind blows , you will get your love . Till then , best to let it go if it goes , let it come if it comes .

[@lenalena8710]

I did. Still am sad about "what ifs"

[@unosheem6210]

Lena Lena The what ifs still keep me up at night I know she doesn't lose sleep though

[@eastcoastsailingcenter7768]

beauty and theeeee beast..... complex

[@TriColoredTiger]

They are both speaking their 'truth', but in the end, neither is listening. They are both in their own world.

[@charlestoncabasal348]

No. Summer did say it upfront. It was Tom who has a problem. Summer did also emphasize that she can't assure that she's gonna wake up in the mornng and will not feel different.

[@hofhofandaway]

Aren’t we all?

[@altrogeruvah]

@@charlestoncabasal348 Any decent human being who's not interested in 'something serious' doesn't sleep with people that are.

[@charlestoncabasal348]

@@altrogeruvah In what are year are you referring to?

[@Figs3]

@@charlestoncabasal348 Tom is the one with more issues. True. He idealized her the same way that Gatsby idealized Daisy in The Great Gatsby. She is her own person with her own set of issues. Not the fantasy Tom imagined in his head. But while she did warn Tom she also knew how he was. She could have made it clearer or broken it off. But she didn't. She kept the relationship going knowing that he was falling harder for her. Knowing that he was probably going to get hurt if/when they broke it off. She knew. Now that's not to say that Tom is the victim in this. JGL said it himself that Tom isn't someone that should be emulated. But like Summer, he is someone with a set of issues. Neither of them are them are truly innocent in this. One can be supposedly more at fault than the other, but BOTH share blame. Regardless, they both are very flawed characters that made an interesting story.

[@chasevictory9465]

It's such a human movie. That's the best part about it. Hating Summer and hating Tom aren't the point. They are both people with very real flaws and their realistic interactions drive the movie. Honestly one of my top 10, love this video man.

[@Dogtles]

Very underated imo. One of my favourite films ever

[@Dogtles]

@Clark Culver underrated in the sense it's under appreciated

[@lizarysrodriguez7506]

What’s ur top ten list?

[@chasevictory9465]

@@lizarysrodriguez7506 it's a mess. No real cohesion and it's extremely subjective. These are just movies that resonate with me or bring up good memories: 1. Spongebob the Movie 2. 500 Days of Summer 3. Mr. Nobody 4. Redline 5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind 6. Spiderman Enter The Spiderverse 7. Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World 8. Waking Life 9. Pokemon the First Movie 10. Mad Max Fury Road

[@ordinarytree4678]

@@chasevictory9465 >redline, Scott Pilgrim, Spiderverse We seem to have similar movie tastes, so Ill recommend one to you that is always on my lists: Paprika. Happy watching :)

[@happybaby8346]

i love that the end shows there is hope for tom. he's more assured in his life. he's chasing his dreams. he's not "waiting" for love to inspire him. he also asks autumn out right then and there without completely overthinking it. he's giving himself another chance at love and he's learned and matured from last time. the whole point is that he doesn't give up, that's why the numbers restart bc it's a new season, new beginning.

[@FIREGOD333]

i love this comment 🌱🌞

[@xandertaylorrr]

Summer is the biggest red herring for the manic pixie dream girl trope. She has motivations, she has desires. She doesn’t only serve the male protagonists growth. I feel like that label greatly underserves the meaning of the movie and Summer’s character

[@SummerSun-sg3wf]

Summer is a man. The writer switched genders. At the time this came out, men were waiting until 40 and women were getting married at 25 and were still romantics.

[@saurabhbanerjee6368]

The whole movie is summed up by Chloe morez dialogue that just because a cute girl like the same bizzare crap as you doesn't makes her your true love

[@ultimadum7785]

"Bizzaro"*****************

[@michaelcarbajal.]

Soulmate*

[@wastagwaga]

Moretz's*

[@sukanyabaliarsingh204]

Trueeeeeeee.

[@swissidol8403]

that’s definitely part of it but more than that it’s about how both tom and summer’s perspectives on their relationship directly clash with each other and that neither are necessarily wrong for feeling the way that they do

[@katelorraine4947]

I will never and I mean this, I will never ever get bored of watching analysis videos on 500 days of summer - the only movie that has changed my perspective on love.

[@ZarathrustaTate]

Kate Lorraine gotta watch more movies

[@katelorraine4947]

ZarathrustaTate ...but i do 😆 i’ve watched movies that are ‘better’ than 500DOS but they’ve not impacted my life like 500DOS did.

[@ZarathrustaTate]

@@katelorraine4947 watch any bergman film. its even parodied in 500dos. persona is mega incredible.

[@Alyssa18633]

In what way?

[@paigeross5948]

honestly!!

[@brodhax6148]

I was always on Summers side, but the guy is right at 9:25. You cant behave romantically with someone and not expect them to get attached. Even friends with benefits set boundaries. Summer was behaving as if they were in a romantic relationship.

[@bonedface]

That's one fetish of Summer, I mean it's not right or wrong. The reality is the girl didn't plan anything if she want just fantasized sex or anything. I watch this movie twice, the first time is when I was fresh in the relationship and the second time when I was just broke up. The second time the film hit me hard and totally give me a different perspective, it very true when it reflect real life relationship like this.

[@carltripole8107]

All i can say is.... never expect anything. Live a simple life. Its easier that way ;)

[@Scurvywormstudios]

@@bonedface also remember, it's from his point of view. He will romanticize everything.

[@RainyDayWolf]

The thing is that anything can be seen as "romantic" if you want to. I had a friend with benefits and eventually started falling in love with him until he ended it because he started a relationship, it was very difficult but I could not blame him... He's still my best friend.

[@brodhax6148]

@@RainyDayWolf No, some things are explicitly "relationship" type stuff. Notice in the movie they go on alot of public dates, spend alot of their free time together, are accountable for each others time. At some point you arent FWBs, youre actually dating and just in an "open relationship". In this movie, I agree the guy is clingy and has a warped view of Summer, but she 100% failed to establish boundaries, which then led him to falling in love. It was mean and cruel on her part. And guys do that all the time to girls. Im saying that whoever does it, is an a-hole. They lead somebody on thinking they are interested in a relationship, even sleeping with them. But then hit them with the "oh, we were just talking, I dont view you as a BF/GF" when the other person clearly does.

[@daviddockery8962]

i was tom. it sucked, and the worst part is realizing you were mostly in the wrong. the whole dreamworld thing really hits home. i think it’s about maturity, and it’s relationships like this one that serve as a learning experience.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

Mostly in the wrong for being led in and manipulated? Men are weak.

[@CiaraB927]

Honestly you nailed it here, you’re so right. The first time I watched this film, as a young teenager, I hated Summer because I was convinced that they were perfect together. The second time, I hated Tom, because I saw myself in him-pining for the idea of someone, but never truly seeing them through the rose-tinted glasses. I’m ready for a third rewatch, and now I’ve moved on from yearning for someone that never loved me, truly moved on, after years I mean, I wonder what lense I’ll see the film through. What an amazing film, that even years later we’re still analysing it and applying the whole idealisms of love with our own, messy experiences so much.

[@onurunal5267]

I knew i was the Tom but I was thinking like summer is one to blame that led tom to be delusional and blamed her now i realize that i was mostly the wrong one. I'm still talking with her . She is a perfect person really would like to stay as a friend but I'm still struggling i don't know what should I do 🥲

[@daviddockery8962]

@@onurunal5267 you need to spend some time away from her and it’s only then that you will be able to see the truth. You will only be able to be friends with her after you have gotten over your feelings for her. It’s tough to get past the idea you have in your head, but you will only hurt yourself more if you let it continue.

[@daviddockery8962]

@@onurunal5267 you need to spend some time away from her and it’s only then that you will be able to see the truth. You will only be able to be friends with her after you have gotten over your feelings for her. It’s tough to get past the idea you have in your head, but you will only hurt yourself more if you let it continue.

[@wafflemaker6590]

I think the problem is that summer doesn’t want a relationship because they’re messy but she wants the stuff that comes with a relationship without having to get attached

[@johnvermintide]

SHE DOESNT KNOW WHAT SHE WANTS Thats the thing

[@howtoeataham]

That’s what I’m saying! It’s not fair to Tom to say one thing but act a different way.

[@fatoumatacisse3796]

exactly thats her problem in the movie. She straights up tells tom she DOESNT want a relationship but proceeds to kiss him at work and hold hands, touch each other, act like she is his girlfriend

[@brad6546]

@@fatoumatacisse3796but those things don't HAVE to be attached to a relationship though

[@ziadahmedsamy]

​@@brad6546They're all relationship milestones/flags. If you see a house with smoke coming out of it and a red glow from all the windows would it be wrong to assume that it's on fire?

[@absbox_]

Autumn is just an extended Summer. What we are really looking for is Winter. She is cool.

[@just-trying-my-best-everyday]

I laughed 🤣

[@_nahnahnah9207]

@@just-trying-my-best-everyday I fucked XD

[@esaladesoysa5752]

Unless you are in Canada lol

[@pozelydozely]

top tier comment

[@icydec3346]

But Cool Girls don't exist. They're technically missing, soon to be dead

[@gummibear1735]

"Love is seasonal" that's so poetic

[@IncredibleMet]

I'm currently in the longest winter...

[@mikethepokemaster2012]

Only love that not seasonal is family love probably plonatic love.

[@ultimadum7785]

@@IncredibleMet same but im cool with it. At least for now.

[@mandaworth]

it really is seasonal! you go through seasons in your life and you attract who you need in that season.

[@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry]

Have a look at the lyrics of Simon and Garfunkel's, "April Come She Will". Pretty sure the screen writer did.

[@kimberlyl.543]

the last part made me tear up, no matter what you say, what song you sing, or what you do: you can’t force yourself to be love of someone’s life

[@adfr1806]

You can its just not worth it and not as magical

[@dontleadmedry]

and you can't force someone to be the love of your life...

[@reiaya4202]

"its hurts to realize that the people we love, are more compatible with someone else"

[@D0MO4]

I'm going through an almost exact replica of tom and summer's relationship with a girl that I really like and it fucking sucks. But the line "Sometimes the people you love are just more compatible with someone else" really hit me and I realised that I have to let her go, just as tom did in the movie. As much much pain I'm gonna be in I just wanted to say thank you Jesse.

[@nicolaslanglais]

I was there about a decade ago, and believe me, you'll look back on this and be happy you went through it. It was defining moments like those that made who I am.

[@FIREGOD333]

Been there too man good luck. im really stubborn so i was in denial abt it for a long time lol i really hate not gettign what i want but i took the L(esson) with humility and grew a lot as a person and im in a much better place not solely in terms of romantic connections but just my life in general. its truly beautiful on the other side so im rooting for u man just keep moving forward dont look back

[@FIREGOD333]

me too a whole decade ago... its crazy to look back and see how much ive grown as a person im really grateful for the experience we had shared together and im glad it didnt workout because it helped me find myself@@nicolaslanglais

[@rohanrouth6592]

Just show love, care and unrealistic efforts she will be yours...and try to make her happy whenever you are there

[@jesusa.7064]

The reason there’s so many interpretations for the film is that both Tom and Summer are written and feel like real people. Real people get jealous, they get insecure, they’re unsure of what they want sometimes in relationships, and the list goes on and on.

[@greenfrog2891]

i saw a comment that disagreed with all interpretations and claimed "They're both terrible romantic partners. Not just for each other, but for anyone." and my first thought was - well yeah! they're written like real people and not print-outs! Anywho, back to Matt Maltese

[@annajulianogueira4189]

he said "10th aniversary" of the movie and i thought "wow 2005 was a long tine ago" but the movie is from 2009

[@gabrielmecenas2075]

Anna Júlia Nogueira O tempo tá voando rápido demais

[@Gemnist98]

Aaaaaaand we’re old.

[@emototheextremo5571]

Oh God

[@1fromoutside]

Now 2005 was 15 years ago and I'm really scared of writing this though I'm only 17 yo

[@ShayanKhan]

This actually sums up 5 years of my life, failing at attempting to force a relationship into what i imagined it could be, even though we were not compatible for each other

[@amberaishaa]

SAMEEE SAMEEE SAMEE

[@ShayanKhan]

@Split Dimension The worst is that you can see it happening with a friend and advice them correctly to get out of there, yet when its happening to you...you somehow plow forward, delusional thinking it will be different for you...even though that little voice was always there telling you it was never going to work. Now i'm at a place where i'm the older uncle, married w/ kids trying to give advice to my college age nephews...and i can see the missteps waiting for them...and knowing that no matter how much i advice them on avoiding them, they are going to go head first into a few. Sometimes the lessons of life suck ass!

[@lenalena8710]

So true! I wasted less time but got my lesson. You can't make someone love you. Still feel "what if"

[@lenalena8710]

@Split Dimension My case was less extreme but I knew right away yet still wanted them to change their mind. I ended up being Tom.

[@lenalena8710]

@Clark Culver "I can't make you love me". Same for me. I chased after guys who didn't want me but in my fantasy they were the ones for me. And then you meet someone who is delighted to spend time with you, makes times for you, cares for you. It's when you no longer accept anything less.

[@Danthadangman]

Man... It’s unbelievable how I just lived through everything that this movie portraits, every sign, every pain, situation, breakdown... how didn’t I understand? Thank you

[@melaniehuard554]

I love this movie because my perception of it changes all the time. I watch it about once a year and each time I feel different watching it.

[@sunrac]

The last few seconds with Autumn show a loop, he won't change, but he probably found someone more compatible.

[@Real_Boye]

I'm literally copying and pasting a comment I made on another thread but it still holds.. I think your interpretation of the last shot kinda falls apart when Summer literally agrees with Tom about his view of love in their last scene together... It's actually very fitting that he got back to his romantic self at the end when he had his personal growth first :D

[@Gemnist98]

LukaANDkrusty I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be ambiguous. Neither was right in their treatment of love; you have to find some kind of balance, and it’ll happen by near circumstance.

[@Real_Boye]

​@@Gemnist98 Why did Summer deadass agree with Tom about his view on love? If Tom is on this doomed loop why didn't he fall back on it earlier in the story when he hadn't had his personal growth first? You can't say that *neither* was right in their treatment of love when one is clearly chosen over the other, it just wasn't in the way we (and the protagonist) thought...

[@Gemnist98]

@@Real_Boye Because like you said about Tom, Summer needed to go through growth first. While Tom needed to overcome his sheltered view on the world and The Graduate and learn that love doesn't always work out, Summer needed to overcome her parents' divorce and learn that love CAN work out. Essentially, the movie's message is that love is going to go through some rough patches, and not everyone is going to be "the one", but that should not deter a person but rather encourage them to keep trying to find the one for them.

[@Real_Boye]

@@Gemnist98 What does anything you just said have to do with the original comment by sunrac? Stay on topic.. The last shot is not ambiguous, neither this sad ending where the protagonist doesn't change..

[@evindrews]

I think 500 Days of summer really encapsulates the millennial culture change post 90s. You're right bring it up as generational kind of movie.

[@surfingpenguin2279]

It was a warning to the younger millenials on what dating was going to be like haha

[@deedumeday518]

@@surfingpenguin2279 brutal

[@surfingpenguin2279]

@@deedumeday518 yep, just the truth bro

[@Lili-cc7pz]

I think deep in Summer's heart she wanted to find love, but Tom wasn't "the one". Explains how she got married in appx 3 months after she broke it off with Tom, because the new guy was her "One". I also think Summer has either dismissive-avoidant or fearful-avoidant attachment style and that explains why she doesn't believe in "love"; due to her traumatic past of her parents' bad marriage and separation she feels like love doesn't exist and marriage only ends up in disappointment and hurt feelings. But avoidants, deep in their hearts, are human too and need love --- they just don't know how to seek for it in a sense normal people do, and their distancing mechanisms kick in (ie. saying upfront they're only looking for casual, no strings attached, etc so no one gets attached and hurt) because they believe their needs would only be met with disappointment. Summer's now husband must have loved her in a way where she didn't feel smothered and also able to feel secure, where as Summer wasn't sure of Tom's love because Tom's love was pretty selfish - He was in love with the idea of being in love, not actually Summer. I have an avoidant attachment style too so I really empathized with Summer - her only fault was I think she was confused too and gave Tom too much hope and what she said (we're casual) vs what she was doing (her actions were definitely more than "casual" in some areas). Now I'm just wondering how the heck did Summer find someone who helped her overcome her attachment style in 3 months... this is the only part of the movie I don't understand lmao

[@mahdikhandaker2510]

Did you find someone who challenged you to change your attachment style?

[@lenalena8710]

I'm the same type of avoidant style! I met two guys though and chased after them because they were unavailable. It didn't work out. It taught me appreciate the good guys but boy, the highs and lows of the "not right" type of guy!

[@Prototyp3m1nd]

I think it's supposed to be left at Tom was right, he just wasn't right about Summer. Real relationships take work and commitment, but they can't be forced, and when she finally met her one it was mostly natural. I know someone similar and she said she never saw it coming. He was loving and kind, but he also called her out when she was avoidant or tried to create conflict unnecessarily. He was a good partner to her rather than someone just trying to make her into some ideal he saw. It's definitely unclear if Tom's outlook truly changed by the end, but I think they both learned valuable lessons.

[@wildbill562]

Summer married a "rebound" guy. Probably more alpha and higher status than Tom. But she is definitely damaged goods and the marriage will fail. He will dump her and she will resume her cynicism about love and life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGipan6PityJe8U

[@sergioa.serrano7993]

This is the best description for 500dos I have ever read.

[@daoyang223]

The movie is a realistic take on love. Its so unpredictable, explosive and so mentally devastating. Took ten years to appreciate because no one i knew talked about it until just last year. It was the first time ive seen it too

[@Sarablueunicorn]

I met a guy like Summer, stringing me along. The thing is that he was the one asking for a relationship and saying he was serious LOL his definition of "serious relationship" was casually dating until he finds someone more suitable, while making me believe that he was commited.

[@npcimknot958]

Summer wasn’t stringingtho.. summer was trying to make it work.. because she felt bad.. she made it clear day one.. she wasn’t looking for that.. but it was when his drunk friends told her tom really liked her that she didnt’ want to hurt him so she tried to make it work.. and time and time again she said they should break up.but because tom got so mad.. she apologized and tried again.. There is no stringing.. tom was the one in control

[@Jdn__0001]

That’s not summer then, that’s just a manipulative asshole

[@homiesenatep]

@@npcimknot958Tom wasn’t really in control, he was quite manic for control, but that doesn’t mean he was. Summer didn’t agree with what he wanted, so Tom kept going at it, but he failed. Summer quite had the natural control her, she was able to hurt his feelings quite effortlessly, while Tom was reaching out for every effort from his being

[@IROC400]

Love does not conquer all. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can be free.

[@neelamdhaanda5066]

Halsey vibes*

[@ChurlzVA]

Well, fairy tale love doesn't.

[@mind9726]

Churlz that is the word.

[@duartelobo9435]

If you think of love in a more spiritual sense it can and it does, but this kind of romantic love surely does not.

[@graciebridge2072]

Unconditional love can conquer all, in my opinion. But romantic love cannot, because it isn't unconditional.

[@FabioSuave]

Watching this just made me realize I'm going through a similar situation. I am the head-in-the-clouds romantic in love with a realist cynic. Except we're not kissing in the copy room or holding hands in Ikea.

[@markmendoza7856]

I felt the Same way

[@michaelaramis1210]

carefull you could break your heart, do it only if you acknowledge the risk and expect the worst to happen, but dont expect it to go for the better. take into account that it may take a long time to heal. i just did the whole thing and it was fun and nice, worth it even given the fact that i have the chance to face aspects of me that i need to embrace and grow from there. but i wouldnt recommend it

[@chriscampbell3055]

Once you get your heart broken into 10 million pieces you wont feel that way about love anymore.

[@michaelaramis1210]

Chris Campbell what way?

[@chriscampbell3055]

@@michaelaramis1210 Because, when you are young you idealize love and think its all about flowers and rainbows and happiness. Then it never works out like that in the long run, so you get your heart broken and it changes you. You learn love is more about finding someone you can share your life with and have that special relationship rather than thinking it should be the way it is shown in the movies...

[@christiandulay9397]

All this time I've always thought I was a Tom, then I got into my first relationship and realized I was a Summer.

[@christiandulay9397]

There's just so much more to life than love, especially when you're young. The only thing you need to commit to at that age is your own wellbeing.

[@Real_Boye]

Ugh, stop.

[@bloodthirstybutcher8365]

@Ajay Singh sigma

[@johnvermintide]

Oh no

[@mariycs]

no cuz literally

[@_aiko020]

I loved this movie because I could relate to both tom and summer. I've always been good at seeing things through the other person's perspective. It's probably because I've experienced what they have gone through. I know what it's like to be spontaneous with my decisions, like summer does. I also know what it's like to fall for someone at first sight, like tom did. Ive never related to characters so strongly before. It was so interesting.

[@Bacchusmbt]

I saw this movie in the theater when it came out. I wasn’t quite sure what it was about, but I was hoping it was some stupid romantic comedy to get over my heart being ripped out of my chest and stomped on from a recent breakup. Right. I literally saw my relationship on that screen, and I had a nice, quiet cry during Tom and Summer’s final scene on the bench. That scene actually provided the closure I needed from my own failed relationship. I had never experienced a movie impacting me so deeply and personally before. I’m married now to the most amazing spouse in the planet and as happy as I could ever be. For all you hopeless romantic Tom’s out there…hold on to what you believe in. It will happen.

[@howintheworld9390]

If you truly love someone, you should respect them as a person, and in doing so, be prepared for and accepting of the unexpected incompatibility that may emerge. Many people fall into the trap of loving the idea of someone instead of the true person they know. You may see certain qualities that you admire, and you alter the rest of their personality in your mind to fit what would make for a perfect partner. Due to the moments of seemingly pure bliss, you believe that you can change them with time to fit your mind's construction. I think what makes life beautiful is that you cannot truly change anyone to whom you are attracted, but instead have to search for someone who is already compatible, as then it leads to amazing cases in which both parties find what they have been looking for. To anyone reading this who is feeling heartbroken, lost, or confused, I hope you find what you are searching for without losing respect for the wishes of others. I love you all.

[@Tamoooose]

Thank you

[@johnwebb7238]

Fuck love

[@NN-re7cy]

Beautifully said. 💖💖

[@samanthagordon667]

thank you

[@ChrisFDOT94]

I needed this at the beginning of my relationship.

[@macb6528]

Thesis; Anti-thesis; Synthesis A Hegelian interpretation of 500 Days of Summer

[@PublicEnemy04]

very nicely put

[@johnvermintide]

Beautiful

[@danesorensen1775]

In my 20s I was on board with Tom and Summer was just confusing and cold. In my 30s, it seems clear as day why the question of how she feels about him has no real answer - she was trying to find that out for herself. I wonder what it'll mean in my 40s.

[@aishamuwafaqabed4890]

she never loved him she just needed a man any man she was afraid of falling in love she didnt wanna get hurt she stayed with him cause she knows that she will never fall in love with him she will take what she needed at that time and lift she was kind of selfish and im sayibg that though im a woman

[@lenalena8710]

Dane I'm almost the same but not yet in thirties but close. She was like "no wedding, no love" but she had no idea. All she knew that she didn't love Tom. It changed because she met someone she cared about. I've been Tom recently.

[@David-qv9yy]

well at least you didnt go through a phase in my early 20s i saw this movie over and over again like idk at least well over 20-30 times over the course of a few months. I was just high and lost in life. I really wanted a girlfriend. Now, I just let life happen.

[@yosepha2383]

@@aishamuwafaqabed4890 totally true thats it!!

[@manolokonosko2868]

I hope that in your 40s you'll know better not to become 100% like "Tom", and that if you have kids, that you'll teach them to LISTEN and to THINK, rather than just react or foolishly act without critically thinking.

[@Idkwtmmythandle2024]

I saw this movie when I was younger before any of my serious relationships, and now after all of them, it's not only gotten WAY better, but watching it makes me feel way more and I am physically and emotionally sad. This is ana amazing movie and captures relationships really really well.

[@soda1850]

I've been in both Summers and Toms shoes. Last summer I met a guy who was a huge romantic and he started treating me like his girlfriend right away, putting everything else aside and wanting to see a future with me although we hardly knew each other. I tried telling him several times i'm not looking for a relationship right now and he said it's fine pretty much but kept pushing. Funny thing is I actually did like him but he was too pushy and I didn't even have time for a relationship and he refused to give it time because he said literally nothing can get in the way for love without respecting everything that was keeping me occupied which at the time was mostly school and I was studying for some very important tests coming up soon. I've also dated guys whom i've ended up romanticizing from very early on and gotten really hurt when they didn't want a relationship. I think nearly everyone has experienced both sides of this but in this story I still see Summer as having done nothing wrong because she was honest, Tom wouldn't listen. It's natural to stay with someone anyway and hope they'll change their mind but it's not realistic to expect them to do so just because you have fun together and have things in common. You also have to look at the other person and look deeper than your fantasy-version of them. Things in common are great but a relationship needs a ton of other things more.

[@FIREGOD333]

i been that guy u mentioned in paragraph 1 and yeah i was the problem. but i already knew that

[@danhas_]

I was tin the same exact situation literally a couple of days ago. I overwhelmed her out by calling one of her friends whom I didn't know cause I was worried something happened to her (she hasn't responded to my message from morning until night). That was a turn off and for her, it felt like I was moving too fast and invading her privacy. Lesson learnt I guess.

[@-AyubFerdinand]

but i think summer still wrong, i mean yeah right she's being honest from the beginning but why she's started all the move? like kissing or holding hands even have sex dude :) summer didn't want a relationship, summer know that tom want a relationship, but why summer make a move to do all the stuff that's couple do? that's not how u treat your friend :)

[@kevintandian6257]

When we love，we see what we WANT to see. Not what we really see.

[@matanai8883]

Nice words

[@AnimeFriendship]

So true

[@JimmyKristanto]

yea so true

[@johnvermintide]

Wow

[@abbakarenina]

In my mind Summer isn’t a manic pixie dream girl for several reasons, but mainly because the ‘lesson’ she was ‘supposed’ to teach Tom was about his ideals of love, but that final look at the camera in reaction to meeting Autumn shows that he hasn’t learnt a thing in regard to romanticising women

[@abbakarenina]

Makayla Ryan-Wade !!!!! 😁

[@lalisasmr]

How exactly is that proof that he is still romanticizing women? I could easily interpret his expression at the end as hopefulness. Tom is a romantic, there isn't anything inherently wrong with that. After Summer, he is despondent and seemingly apathetic when it comes to the idea of love. When he meets Autumn, she is receptive in a way Summer never was. She actually seems interested. This is made clear by her mentioning seeing Tom at the park and teasing him for not noticing her. She also changes her plans to get coffee with him. Wouldn't you be elated if for once, someone shows the same degree of interest as you? The relationship with Summer was never equal, it was on her terms and based on how she felt at any given moment. Personally I think Tom grows significantly from the experience. Could he still make bad relationship decisions, sure? That's just being a human.

[@mechantechatonne]

@@lalisasmr Summer showed interest in Tom at first as well. She kissed him first, for example.

[@darkphoenix2]

I always thought the look at the camera, due to it's nature, is simply to show Tom's reaction to the coincidence of meeting a girl named Autumn after moving on from Summer.

[@ethandram]

And all of these interpretations are perfectly acceptable, beautiful answers.

[@canttellyoucuzurastranger9400]

i just had a similar break up and now google's recommending a whole bunch of videos like this wtf stop tryna make me a better person

[@cascadestars]

hahahahahaha

[@zigbo5659]

Movie hit me like a train bound for "reality check" station. The movie was released in 2009, I was only 6 back then. Haven't watched it until yesterday night, I'm 19 as of typing this out. Don't know why I had felt the impulse to watch the movie. I think a comment on Instagram mentioned the title of the movie a scene was taken from in one of the shorts. Recently, I fell in love, or say, infatuated with a girl I had only met in college. She was the first to approach me and engaged in convos. She even greeted me everytime we pass by each other. I never thought of anything at first, but as weeks go by, something started to slowly grow inside me, it was a liking for her, and it was the first time I had felt like this towards a girl. I reciprocated, assuming she perhaps might like me, by taking the initiative to start convos, check on her in the library and buying her chocolate for her birthday. I even helped sell off all of her cookies during a sale she was involved with, which I bought 5 packs of. Later on, I felt like she kinda distanced herself from me. I don't exactly know when was the onset, but I felt it slowly getting noticeable. She doesn't come up to my table in the library like she used to. Conversations felt like I was the one carrying it the whole time. Pretty much kinda showed obvious signs that she wasn't as interested as before in having me around. Long story short, last November, before the end of the semester dinner, I confessed to her. This was somewhat her response : "I had known you liked me, but I think you should move on. You can keep on liking me, I don't mind. But I don't feel the same way to you. I don't mind if you want to keep on liking me, but I think you should move on" I choked on my breath. Not knowing what to say, I just said : "Oh I see. Thanks a lot for being sincere and straightforward with me. I really appreciate it. I guess, see you during the dinner tonight" Later that night, I avoided her, I just couldn't bring myself to look in her way. There was always a huge weight that stops me from looking at her that night. Right after the dinner, semester break commenced. I'd reckoned I can recuperate my feelings and my mental state, since I won't have to cross paths with her for a month. But here I am, just finished watching this movie and having to face a deluge of emotions tearing down the walls of my mind, dragging me back to the vortex of emotions I had once thought to be gone. I got dragged back to a viscous cycle of my mind saying things like : "you two may be together in the end" "she might change her mind" And all sorts of things that would convince me to still have hope, knowing enough that I would just end up tormenting myself further by holding on to it. This movie couldn't be anymore resonant to what I had just recently gone through. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that I had watched the movie right after a tumultuous ordeal. But that coincidence is uncanny and somewhat ridiculous for me to see it as sheer coincidence. The ending of the movie was the true definition of bittersweet. I felt the bitterness and the underlying sweetness in the final scene. Ripped my heart into a million pieces but at the same time draped my heart with a heartfelt sensation. And I keep on wondering what the future has in store for me ?

[@nondescriptbeing5944]

That’s heavy man. all I can say is be open and the future will bring countless opportunities

[@danzoboyo]

The only issue I have with Summer is doing things like holding Tom's hand and saying I like you in a flirty tone. Yes, she was very clear she didn't want anything serious, but that's pretty messed up to lead someone on like that who clearly likes you

[@rutealmeida3331]

exactly! yes she expresses how she doesn't want anything serious, but her behaviors say the opposite and that incongruence leaves a bit of hope that they may work out :/ even after being married, she held toms hand in a place where they had lots of cute moments, that's messed up bro she had to disappear from his live forever so he could move on but she kept coming back

[@simonster-9094]

What you gotta remember is that the movie is most likely told through Tom's perspective. So in the "real world" of the movie, Summer probably just held his hand for a second and said it in a more platonic/matter-of-fact way whilst Tom's memories are making it more romantic than it actually was.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

@@simonster-9094That's such a cope.

[@mateussantiagolage1005]

@@youcantbeatk7006 this is shown in the movie lol The scene in the record store is played out twice, the 1st while he is in love and the 2nd after they breakup. In the 1st (representing his view) is shown like she was flirting back, in the 2nd (representing what actually happened) she ignores him.

[@GoodMomo]

@@youcantbeatk7006 Getting mad that a gesture like holding hands and saying "I like you" is some sort of unbreakable seal of unrequitable love that means a person should abide to for the rest of their lives, seems like a huge coping mechanic to not accepting that someone isn't forced to love you.

[@christyseagraves8774]

You have such a talent for using film as a lens for seeing life. But of course it's your insights and thoughtful attention to detail that make your videos so amazing! And this one is a great take on love and perspectives about relationships. Thanks and keep them coming!

[@PGPP]

When i first watched the movie, I was going through a breakup, I felt him and understood him completely. After a couple of years, I saw the movie again with a friend who was going through a break up and I realised I had become more cynic myself, like Summer. Then after I watching it again by myself, I realised both sides of the coin and I reflected trying to accept things from my past. Thank you for the video, It's been a long time that I feel someone understands these things, It's been a long time since someone almost brought a tear to my eye. Cheers!

[@lenalena8710]

Thank you, I've been both Summer and Tom. Which is painful because Summer must have seen Tom was a great catch. But feelings are feelings. I was Tom recently and no matter how great I was.. he wasn't feeling it.

[@mr.fluffypantz4150]

I love the way you argue. It combines the things I love about science writing and melds those over the problems I have with humanities writing, at least on a college level. Your method is very satisfying to me, and I’ll explain why with several points. Normally I wouldn’t make a post this long, but you seem like you’d appreciate the unpacking of it, and this is the best way I know how to tell you that I love your videos: explaining why. I’m a graduate student in Math and Computer Science, so most of the papers I write are very proof and logic oriented. I make assumptions, explain those assumptions, apply logic and experiments to show how those assumptions derive new facts, and make conclusions based on the applicability of the approach. I like it because I don’t have to be flowery, and I get to lay out what I’ve learned in an understandable manner, and nobody judges my work based on the persuasive nature of it. I don’t have to try to come up with something new, I don’t have to pretend to understand the nature of people, and I don’t have to watch where I step to avoid peoples’ biases and cultural differences. The downside to scientific writing is that you often lose some of the wonder and power that comes from getting people to rethink what they might have already thought to be true. My paper about how an old algorithm applies to a new problem isn’t going to get people to change their hearts or develop an understanding or appreciation for a topic they previously felt ambivalent about. The problem I have with all of the times I’ve had to write for that effect in humanities classes is that the professors seem to appreciate the use of emotionally charged phrasing and carefully chosen examples to manipulate the perception of the audience. I may fully agree with what I’m saying when I write for humanities classes, but often times I feel like I’m trying to manipulate my audience instead of sparking discussion, mostly because the professors want persuasion and hot theses. Your videos are everything I love about STEM writing with the subject matter and effect of humanities writing. You take calm, non-biased looks at the subject matter you love, and you tell me the cool things you’ve noticed about it. You’re not trying to argue that 500 days of summer is pushing an agenda, and you’re not trying to say that you understand the movie and it’s purpose in sociological commentary, you’re telling us, in a well put together logical structure, what you found in it that was so interesting. Because you approach the argument from a very neutral stance where you’re just trying to learn, it makes me extremely receptive of what you have to say, and your high logical capability allows me to easily follow along. Many times in humanities research, I have many “yeah but that’s not always true” thoughts because they try to apply their arguments to as broad a scale as possible. You, on the other hand, look at media for what it is and try to find the beauty in it through logical analysis, and I appreciate it so much. I hardly ever leave without learning something profound or coming to a new appreciation of a topic, and I believe that’s your goal. I never thought someone would be able to do that with media critique, and I’m very glad you proved me wrong. I love your content, and it’s my belief that you are criminally underrated. You deserve millions of subscribers. As long as you continue to make content the way you are now, I will be a strong supporter. Please don’t give in to capitalism and sacrifice content for views like GameTheory and most news sources did. Your videos are phenomenal, and nobody does this niche better than you.

[@JesseTribble]

Wow! I'm flattered! I put a lot of work into tone and logic and emotions, so I'm glad that resonates. Thank you for your response! (But as soon as I reach a million subscribers, it's going to be nothing but 'Top 10 Easter Eggs YOU MISSED!' I don't make the rules.)

[@mr.fluffypantz4150]

Jesse Tribble you know, if you put as much work into those Easter eggs as you do these vids, they’ll probably be the best Easter eggs on the cite😂

[@jonathanrouse]

Man that’s a pretty crazy comment from a guy calling himself “Mr. Fluffypantz” 👌🏻

[@gogetyourgun1490]

I have a feeling Summer got married to someone that might have been in her previous life. The way she talks about her past seems sort of mysterious and vague. I think she was either not telling the whole story, or made some stuff up. Why else would she get married to someone she just met? At least that's my personal theory anyways. We only see Tom's perspective, so we don't really know who Summer is. He thinks he knows who Summer is, but he really doesn't because he keeps pushing ideals and expectations that are not her. I just feel like Summer had a lot of personal baggage that Tom wasn't capable of alleviating. No one was really in the wrong here, it just is what it is.

[@KINGAustralia]

How cool would it be to have a sequel with them older and with Summer telling her story 🤭😲

[@gogetyourgun1490]

@@KINGAustralia It would be fascinating to see her perspective. I think she also mentioned that she JUST moved to LA because she "wanted something different". When she said that, it sounded like she was running away from something. Which is why I theorize that she probably married someone she met previously. Maybe a childhood friend or something.

[@anacarolinam7603]

just like in real life we're left wondering who's the other person

[@Lemana28021989]

I think she knew her future husband before meeting Tom and wasn't sure and Tom was "the last before". She then realized who she really wanted, got (back) together and engaged. This would make sense to me as she moved to LA, feels like a "I first habe to sort things out" move.

[@dorydaydreamer]

​@@Lemana28021989yeah, that would be explain the day when she broke up with him.. before the breakup she was really sad, moody and she cried during the movie for unknown reasons.

[@brandonbarnes6283]

As an adult this movie, an indecent proposal manage to scare me more than any horror movie. They both dive deep into reality managing to make me feel the pain of the characters all while I dread ,and anticipate the outcomes. They also leave me with bleak real world expectations, which scares the life out me. 😂

[@delaney1690]

and i’m pissed can everyone stop acting like he sucks so much for being a romantic. neither of them are in the wrong they just don’t belong together. i think tom is beautiful and he’s just in love with her thanks

[@EE-tx2lc]

He never really loved her. He loved the idea of her. When she talks about stuff to him all he can think about is "I wonder if she's told anybody else this" he doesn't actually truly care about what she's saying. They were both selfish in that relationship tbh but that's what makes them human.

[@mobydick3769]

I think people demonize Tom for being a romantic and not a cynic, which is what nowadays is the fetish of relationships. He/she who is the cynic is the one with the power to leave at any time and the one who gets attached faster is the pathetic clingy sad person we make fun of when that relationship ends. But in reality, Tom's devotion towards Summer shows he's capable of deep emotion and vulnerability and he's not afraid of love. I think the problem with him was that he was so desperate to feel that love that he focused it on the wrong person by idealizing her as the "love of his life" when in reality she wasn't. I can totally connect way more to Tom because I recognize myself in him and the way I treated former relationships. But I agree with you that this "Tom is the one in the wrong and we should all pin the blame on him" is really annoying. I think people just hate seeing themselves in Tom because as cynical as they might be, we've all gone through a phase of our lives in which this was us.

[@soda1850]

In love with his idea of her. He never once respects her views on love

[@drshohinidas4051]

Absolutely true. Tom is not stupid or selfish to have fallen in love with summer. We all have done that at some point. It doesn't make him immature. It makes him a human.

[@QuietlyCurious]

@@mobydick3769 Dude, say it louder.

[@fdlarts7676]

Never understood the hate towards Summer. She clearly stated that she's not looking for something serious

[@nateds7326]

You don’t fuck somebody if your not looking for something serious

[@방구머겅]

Not hate Annoying

[@jonathanlafleche5984]

@@nateds7326 What a naive thing to say. Non-serious relationships, aka friends with benefits have never been more popular.

[@nateds7326]

@@jonathanlafleche5984 hey if you do that fine you do you

[@Sam-es2gf]

imo it's morally wrong to sleep with someone you know has feelings for you if you want something casual. i think that's it's part of why there's such polarised views on tom/summer in this film because a lot of people can identify with being either of them

[@soul_vicex]

Here's the thing though, and its a strong problem in modern day dating. Both people agreeing it wont get serious, yet do all the serious things a growing relationship would do, giving one, or both, the idea that it's more than what they felt it would be 1 - 2 - 3 months before. This is why more people hate Summer over Tom, as Tom genuinely wants something real, where as she is happy to jump from man to man because and I quote ''wants to''. Something that's reflected in society more now, than it did on the films release.

[@prashanthb6521]

True.

[@lenalena8710]

So agree. 10 years and now it's more relevant. When someone tells you he's not into you for real listen to it and run. It doesn't work. Learned the hard way.

[@youtubesucks2755]

@@sugabud But she didn't real behave "casual". Actions speak louder than words. If somebody tells you they are not looking for anything serious and behave that way, it's okay. But if they start behaving like they are in a relationship, then shit gets weird.

[@Zahra-wd6gb]

Exactly. I think actions are really the only thing that defines a relationship at the end of they day. People just use the 'casual' label because they want all the good aspects of being in a serious romantic relationship and none of the responsibility. It's extremely toxic because in real life you can't just "do what ever you want" without consequence and live as a child forever. Tom was right when he said they were a couple, because she did enforce that with her actions, no matter what label she wanted to avoid. She just didn't want to accept responsibility, and that't why so many people hated her

[@damianaraya3110]

@@youtubesucks2755 But then again, what is "acting" like being in a relationship? holding hands? kissing?. Words do matter.

[@Daydreamerr13]

I first watched this when I was in 6th grade, now at 21 my perspective on it has changed so much. This will always be one of my favorite movies forever 💕

[@missjo5ie]

This movie came out when I was a teenager and trying to figure out love. I appreciated summer as a character, especially when she explains to Tom that she was distant in their relationship because she “wasn’t sure” - and then when she met the right guy she “knew” what she never knew with Tom. My parents always said “when you know, you know” - they KNEW when they met their person. That’s what I got from it anyway

[@sharpdude100]

I remember having heard of the movie, and that it involved a not so romantic ending. I ended up watching it at the right time and it helped me by giving me perspective and showing me the bigger picture; the sky. We don't look up enough sometimes.

[@bjenkins6954]

I’ve had a “summer” once. you tell someone you’re intentions at the beginning and if they agree that’s on them. but she knowingly did things bc she felt like it regardless of how thomas felt. he openly expressed how he no longer wanted what she did. and yet she wouldn’t cut things off completely for a while. when she finally did, she invited him to a party. which everyone now can assume was an engagement party maybe. without even mentioning it. she enjoyed is company and attention knowing he was freshly heartbroken. she knew he fell. we’re all adults here and you don’t have to care about another’s feelings or shit they did to themselves. but she was inconsiderate of him. constantly. he thought was most would, if i’m right for her. she’ll change her mind. and he desperately wanted to be that person. she was just a wall. she cared then didn’t. gave him some of what he was begging for then would stop. she knew what she wanted but would wish wash back n forth instead of staying completely true to what she said in the beginning. is it hard to stop a relationship cold turkey for the others benefit if you clearly see they’re in too deep? she was mature but not. a mature person would take the loss of that friendship bc it was for the best of that person. she would do the right thing then go back on it later. bc she could. that’s why the line at the end about her not mentioning her engagement was there. she DOES do what she wants. and she always did. and that’s her flaw.

[@bjenkins6954]

they are both wrong. please don’t interpret this as i side with thomas. he is very delusional. i once had that same delusion and it left a scar.

[@GeneTonics]

@@bjenkins6954 I agree. I pity Thomas because he's a fool. But I don't like Summer because she played that fool like a fiddle.

[@euminkong]

@@GeneTonics this is too true. My wife and I saw it together both yelling at the TV when she had the ring on..

[@p0rq]

I really like how carefully you handled the different sides to this film. Nice job.

[@Jumsut_]

holy shit a killjoy

[@suzieque2884]

I hope they’d make a sequel but on summer’s perspective. I’m really curious to see what her experience was like.

[@CandyPinkcake]

the fact that tom didnt cry during the graduate when summer did is very telling

[@sumowrestler2687]

Thank you! Everyone always tries to villainize either Tom or Summer, but both of them are just people. They have really great qualities, and bad ones too. Sometimes things just don`t work out, and both people play a part in it.

[@CarterFromThe7]

Just sounds like such a childish immature move to distance from the things you claim to love but when actions don't align its just that. I could never cut and run from people I truly love and I guess that's what makes some of us different. Someone can love you and lie straight to you just because like some comments above said.. She saw he was a great catch, but feelings are feelings. Just super dismissive and realistically avoidant for the fact you know the other would do anything for you. And its like when people have that.. You just aren't good enough. Come as you are and hope for the best is what I've learned. Most aren't here like they say they are so always keep yourself situated. Self love above all.

[@Jaerb4]

Great video. I think Summer's motivations actually change during the movie (and Tom's probably don't.) She was upfront that she wanted something casual and he agreed to it. But when they become a couple, after the fight, it's her trying to accommodate him and testing out if she does actually want a relationship. I've seen people paint it as her taking advantage of him, but that's not her intention at all. It's at that point she becomes more of a romantic herself, and she wants to give it a shot with him. That may even be where she learned she wanted one, which prepared her for her next relationship and marriage. At that point, it's not that she still wanted something casual. It's that she wanted something serious but in the end Tom just wasn't the right guy. And given Tom (like many of us) shies away from direct confrontation and is often very passive aggressive, he probably would've taken their failing relationship to the grave had she not broken it off. On the bench when he says, "you just do what you want", he means it like an indictment. She says, "yes" as a positive affirmation. And quite frankly, I think her outlook is right. If you want something, go for it. If you don't want something, say it. Tom has incredible difficulty doing this. I think it also plays into why he couldn't ask her out, and she had to take the first step (and why this is a fantasy for so many guys.) The "nice guy" archetype (who often ends up not being so nice, but that's a different discussion) won't express their real feelings or desires, which leads to miscommunication, misinterpreting things and eventual heartbreak, which fuels a victim complex even more. Learn to be honest and direct. Make sure you're on the same page. And once you do that, you won't feel so slighted when something unfortunate happens. You begin to realize sometimes shit does just happen and it's not because someone was taking advantage of you. My last relationship ended in June. It sucked. It hurts. But it wasn't intentional or malicious. We both knew what we wanted, and it turned out that wasn't it.

[@tribecalledmaya]

Jaerb4 one of the most beautiful movie interpretations/ YT comments I’ve ever read

[@minicc26]

This. As a summer this is exactly what happened to me mentally. I was a cynic and meet a Tom. I grew to like him and wanted to give it a shot for real to see if I could fall in love but no matter what i couldn't and the guilt would kill me. On the outside it looks like I lead him on but I really did want to see if it could work. In the end you can't force love. I learned that.

[@looeesj]

9:51 "How many of us have entered a relationship thinking we can love someone enough that they will change?"

[@looeesj]

A little bit later on the video: "But people change, that's life. It is just that Tom was not the one who made it happen, like he was hopping. Change can't be forced. You can't say all the right things, sing the right songs or love someone enough. And maybe it hurts to realize that people we love is more compatible with somebody else." I needed to listen to this.

[@lenalena8710]

@@looeesj It makes me cry, so true.

[@aspyn.j_]

This is why it’s important to know that you have to accept people for who they are NOW. Even if they could change, that change comes on their own and it comes with growth. I think if people accepted this, they’d stop chasing unavailable people.

[@roberthipolito1351]

I've never fallen in love, not for real, a genuine love. And every time I've been with some girl, I've always known deep down "this won't go anywhere". I mean I'm a romantic like he is, but how can I know love if I've never felt it. So even though I hated her character so much when she said "Cause I wanted to", I fully understand her in the line: "What I was never sure of with you." I think perhaps those 2 lines explain it all. A person can be romantic and also become a cynic, I mean perhaps she too wanted to feel love, but didn't believe in it. She didn't believe in it, she had never felt it and she thought she didn't want it, but wasn't sure. Until she randomly found the right person, and unfortunately for Tom is wasn't him. So me being a romantic, knowing I've never fallen in love and that I might never find the right person, every time a new girl appears I keep having that cynical thought in the back of my head "this most likely won't go anywhere." "Just because a cute girl likes the same bizarre crap as you doesn't makes her your soulmate." But for reasons, I sometimes just go along with it, and we start going out *'cause I still want to try*, even though *I'm never sure of love with that person*. No matter how romantic I can be, it'll always come in conflict with my cynicism. So when I watch this film I kinda understand both sides: wanting love, and not believing in love. You can want love so much, it won't make a person love you back; and even if you don't believe in it, out of nowhere randomly you could just find it.

[@sxnxqa2335]

When i was 15 (in High school) the first time I ever watched this movie I thought it was such a romantic movie, and was confused why Summer didnt end up with Tom. and hated her like many people did. After rewatching it over and over again, I realised that it’s more realistic than most “romantic” films. And it’s sad because that’s just how life is. It’s not all rainbows and sunshines. and that’s why it’s such a good film, because it shows how life really is.

[@LittleHomieLightningtech]

I just watched this and I'm fifteen but I don't really get it.

[@alexandersalamander1887]

I hate how this video grounded me when i had my head in the clouds about a girl. but it grounded me and that’s what i needed.

[@emmerrick4563]

I like your name

[@jeongminlee1551]

It’s not supposed to do that

[@tribecalledmaya]

I first watched this movie when I was 13, and now I’m 21 expecting my first child. it used to be one of favorites but now that I rewatch it, it’s more of a movie that’s shaped me profoundly and also my outlook on love, relationships and idealization / who you’re with and who they actually are VS. how you see them in your mind and what you want them to be and love you. reciprocity, heartbreak, compatibility and angst. definitely a great movie and can be interpreted in many ways/used as an example, but I can only watch when I’m in a particular mood lol.

[@anupmaharjan4196]

Summer wanted FRIENDS WITH BENEFIT ( FWB) relationships and Tom wanted true love.

[@venti13]

I agree

[@ai_artistry638]

Just perfectly described

[@slopcrusher3482]

Summer wanted more. She was manipulative. FWB’s don’t hold hands, they don’t flirt with each other. They don’t go on dates.

[@FIREGOD333]

not always the case mate. its a case by case basis upon mutual agreement. the whole point of a FWB vs casual hookup sex is the friendship aspect. the emotional connection. the platonic affection that one could experience in a friend scenario. and being that its fwb theres also the sexual element. but both parties are in agreement that they do NOT want a relationship. so its really on tom for not understanding what he was getting into even tho she made it pretty clear from the start. @@slopcrusher3482

[@mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454]

@@slopcrusher3482 Not true. This one is for Rachel from the BK It was both. - Matt’s dad

[@joshuarodriguez7115]

Bruh this hit me deep and taught me a few things about relationships, dating, and even myself. Thank you, keep doing what you’re doing!

[@Bozomine]

I am impressed by the editing of this video essay. Particularly when you were discussing the characters views on their relations ship, and you said how the guy is more possessive of summer than she is of him and he was holding on to her, yet the next shot is her kissing him with her hand keeping him distant.

[@PicoFromTX]

Still one of my favorite movies about love After a while, I realized the significance of one scene After karaoke, Summer asks Tom if she likes him. Follows up with "As friends?". He tells her what he think she wants to hear. He failed to man up. From that moment, he set himself up for failure. He would be a placeholder until she found someone she truly wanted. He failed to realize that their entire "relationship".

[@Dale_Blackburn]

What a stupid analysis. He didn't fail at anything. He said that because it was too early and couldn't decide if Summer is bating or being serious with that question. He could have scared her off if he said "i like you more than a friend etc."

[@Window4503]

@@Dale_Blackburn No, the best thing he could have done was be clear from the start. Agreeing with “as friends” when you don’t mean it is the setup for a situationship where no one gets what they want. Always define relationships from the get-go and make it clear that you just want to be on the same page if you’re already struggling with that question. It saves a lot of heartache and a mature person won’t be scared by the question.

[@maybelikealittlebit]

I cried! relatable to my current situation. I am summer. Sad to know the pain I felt in being someone’s lesson, I will have to pass unto another.

[@keespacehyon]

Just rewatched this today. This was some great analysis which reflects real life. Thanks!

[@marymcallister7963]

I saw this movie when I was 14 and I think that unconsciously I built a whole part of my identity around Summer

[@pip1540]

Same

[@jgeybp]

I remembered watching this when I was 13 and I can say that I am the man that I am today because of this movie. I feel like Tom every once in awhile. I watch it atleast once a year. This and still is my favourite movie of all time and that won’t change anytime soon. But I remembered watching it and I was so mad to Summer coz ofcourse yes we all were on Tom’s perspective. Growing up older and older I came to realize that it wasn’t Summer’s fault and this video made it more clear to me. So happy I found this small youtuber. Thank you!

[@excessivelung2602]

I really appreciate how the topic transitional slides were in the style of the movie. Good editing along with insightful commentary very cool

[@Punkandcannonballer]

I love this film and your video on it. 500 Days of Summer is one of those movies I revisit every now and then and see in a new way, or a slightly different one at least. I love how the color palette of the film changes to reflect Tom becoming a part of Summer's world and being surrounded by blues, then after they break up returning to browns, with blue becoming more rare or out of reach. The expectations vs. reality scene always kills me. Aw jeez, I'm gonna go watch it again. Crazy that the guy that made this wonderful movie also made the Amazing Spider-man 2....

[@leeashford2259]

Summer seems to hold all the cards and that’s half the problem here! I’ve been In that situation where the person you’ve fallen for never seems fully involved , almost like they know they’ve got other options

[@derecwilsom4546]

6:25 companies sell products with love and in turn love starts to depend on products. Nicely put.

[@nickfiore2068]

This was fantastic, I loved how you broke down the easy perspective of the manic pixie dream girl that of course exists but when placing it on summer, loses the nuances of who she is as a character and what relationships are capable of or in this case not capable of.

[@Rebelka345]

5:15 Love becomes seasonal. Get it? Because he loves Summer and then meets Autumn?

[@dcplays108]

aahaa

[@kennethbgoodin]

Just discovered your channel from the office video and you make some top notch content. Love your breakdown of this movie into 3 interpretations, I've only really viewed it through the first two mentioned I think.

[@Melak-p3e]

Jessie hands down one of the best videos ever made great work

[@bagweed]

I watched this video a year ago and watched it again today and it is still very good and resonant. thanks for sharing.

[@bibliophilecb]

I am so glad this popped up in my recommended videos. I have been saying almost this exact thing about this movie for years and no one on the internet seemed to agree with me. This video perfectly articulates what I’ve always felt about Summer and Tom! Neither of them is perfect, neither of them is the enemy, it was just a bad situation. And that’s the point of the film, that’s the story the filmmakers set out to tell. Definitely a movie that benefits from second, third, even fourth viewing and I get something new each time I see it.

[@misterdelco3978]

No one agreed with you because you’re viewpoint is warped. Tom was absolutely unequivocally screwed over by summer and you don’t want to see that because it justifies similar actions you have made. If you aren’t serious about someone who wants something serious, then leave them alone

[@bibliophilecb]

Mister Delco uhhhh projecting much lol? I’ve actually been Tom much more often than I’ve been Summer, and his character actually helped my realize the flaws in my past actions. Also I’m married so I think I was pretty serious about someone who was serious about me.

[@adamracette5112]

Love becomes seasonal... what a line and what a message

[@444mutation]

Such a great video on one of my favourite movies of all time. You are killing it!!

[@shoozymusic]

"Im not looking for anything serious right now" *Gets fucking married*

[@ensarhasanic4963]

That wasn't right now though 😊

[@MuscleBandit]

A great and much needed insight into an iconic touching movie. Thanks.

[@orionskywalker2481]

To be honest summer was more relatable than Tom. She was honest with him but he wouldn't see her for who she really was. He could only see her through the filter he created

[@SewTubular]

It's very hard to walk away from the wrong person that you want to be the right person...

[@mariotuccitto5279]

I don't comment on videos but this was incredibly well done and articulate. A great discussion of a film that's transcended. Thank you!

[@jornojovanne1902]

What a tear shedding video. I saw so many parallels from my own life. Makes me reflect on what I need to do to achieve what I want most in life, love. Thank you for hanging up all these perspectives for me so I can watch them like an exposition.

[@koala5992]

I've always wanted to watch 500 days of summer, so after watching this video I rented it on youtube and it might be one of my favourite movies now

[@RyanMcCarty]

I love watching analysis' of movies I've never seen.

[@grimm256]

I hate being this person BUT this is exactly what I’m going through rn and it hurts to see it laid out so thoroughly in front of my eyes. I’m Tom the unrealistic romantic and my Manic Pixie Dream Girl is “making me stronger” but also tearing me apart:)

[@FIREGOD333]

:) ur gonna be ok dude i been there and before u are reborn like a pheonix u must turn to ashes 🔥😈 hurts like hell but worth it

[@pineappleagent1]

I think the end shows that he could find love even after his experience with Summer. Summer found love and it hurt him so much, you can’t force love but maybe you can find it.

[@deaddogproductions7363]

your analysis is always perfectly well composed and verbally pleasant. i love them. great job!

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

I appreciate narrators who don't talk fast and loud and don't alternate between quiet and suddenly loud moments; it makes watching a more enjoyable experience often