Andy Stanley vs the OT: The Hebrews Series pt 2 (1:1-2)

[@MikeWinger]

Sorry for the abrupt ending. I realized as I was going that it would be wise to break this study into two parts, at least I think it will be. The second part, where I deal with the attributes of Christ and the connection to the Wisdom of Solomon will be coming soon!

[@winninggemchannel8819]

@@MikeWinger Look Forward to it brother

[@Miss_B_Theriault]

@MikeWinger What do I do if the church I attend is affiliated with Andy Stanley? 😢

[@chasep2001]

I was surprised when I saw it was just 1 hour. Have you ever done a video that short before? ;-P

[@FireflowerDancer]

I'm really appreciating your teaching lately, Mike! Your coverage of Rob the Polygamist was just crazy, but to see everyone faithfully challenging him with scripture (in the comments) was so enriching for me. Thanks for what you bring to KZbin, and thanks for being you!

[@shaunl3757]

It's not his job to save. Only GOD does that according to your heart. Somehow the enemy has entered through one of his gates and is blinding him to the truth. I pray the LORD will wake him up before he does anymore damage to the body of Christ. Church, pray for Andy. He is lost in pride.

[@leviwarren6222]

"Imagine what can be, unburdened by what has been." - Apparently Andy Stanley

[@MikeWinger]

@@leviwarren6222 ooooooo

[@RobCee4ever]

@@leviwarren6222 🤣😂😂🤣👏👏👏👏

[@PBAdventures146]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@wvest167]

That sounds like Kamala Harris! 😄

[@trinitycreek01]

🤣🤣🤣

[@BeginAgain316]

Matthew 5:17 -" Do not think that i have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"❤

[@lauramikow2381]

❤❤❤

[@katierucker2870]

Seems like Andy needs to think about this verse at all times.

[@robertdouglas8895]

..by changing them completely."..God told Moses to kill all adulterers? Jesus forgives all adulterers.

[@tombradley8114]

@robertdouglas8895 That's not what fulfill means. You put words in Jesus' mouth to your detriment

[@lauramikow2381]

@@tombradley8114 What do you mean?

[@Bedlam_6]

'All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, ' 2 Timothy 3:16

[@MooJoo]

And what people don't stop to think about is the only scriptures that existed when Paul said that were the Old Testament scriptures! How anyone can even consider them irrelevant today is mind boggling. 🤯

[@elanorglf]

And what Paul meant by that was, the Law of God was used for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training.

[@Deacondan240]

@@Bedlam_6 and Paul was referring to the OT scriptures primarily, for NT canon didn’t exist yet.

[@sirllamaiii9708]

​@@Deacondan240though I do believe he knew some of his letters would become scripture. I believe it was in first Corinthians, where he says something and says "the Lord says, not I"

[@MooJoo]

@@elanorglf You forgot to finish the sentence. It's "training in righteousness". That's a very important word in there. And Paul "meant" exactly what he said. It's all God-breathed. God spoke to us through the writers of the OT, as well as the new. It's the OT that shows our need for a Savior in the first place. It also shows man's redemption through the Messiah as our Savior. Those are the scriptures that Paul and the other disciples used to show their fellow Jews that Jesus was the fulfillment of the promise. Plus almost 30% of scripture is prophecy. Knowing the OT helps connect the dots with the prophecy of the NT as well. It's all critical.

[@SilentEcho4178]

THANK YOU for this! As someone in GA who is surrounded by people (friends, family and neighbors) that go to Andy's churches, I am so hopeful that more pastors with a larger influence / ministry, such as Mike, will expose him and his theology. He, along with others like him, has created a generation of lukewarm "Christians" with no desire to repent or revere God, and it breaks my heart.

[@ellenyearick1039]

& obviously do not revere his writ word. the word="word" refers to an intelligent utterance, or writ. i know Dr. Charles Stanley has passed to God, & i assume he is carefree now; but even now i feel sorry for him for the heartaches he suffered in his temp. life~ & there was plenty. He was a truly godly man, like Jo & Paul. I thank God for his exemplary life.

[@ellenyearick1039]

Voddie Baucham courageously teaches the true of God's word too. & so does Tony Evans & Charles (Chuck) Swindoll, all three who have helpful sermons on youtube. These 3 all graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary. I am new to Mike's teaching; he seems to be a godly teacher, from what i have heard so far. meticulous to put the scripts on screen for our viewing while he teaches them : that is inviting scrutiny.

[@boomtoastedgaming3942]

Same here!

[@karricompton]

As someone who has been to Northpoint and used to listen to Andy all the time, it disgusts me what he has become in the last few years. It really is sad.

[@rlee1185]

Is that you, Ben?

[@Bedlam_6]

'Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching. ' 1 Timothy 4:13

[@annette8770]

To think most of the Gospels hadn’t been written at the time Paul wrote that.

[@TheLegendaryCazoo]

@@annette8770in that same letter he references Luke's gospel as scripture though

[@PistisAdelphos]

Thank you so much. Doing something big idk why this verse didn't come to mind, other than it was for this moment. the following verses are so good for this. Thank you.

[@malaynaschulthies1087]

If people want to listen to a Stanley, I highly recommend that they listen to Andy's father Charles Stanley. Thanks Mike for exposing us to this content. Hebrews is one of my favorite New Testament books.

[@Screwed_Up_World]

I listen to Dr. Charles Stanley everyday. He is a solid biblical teacher and preacher.

[@kimpreslar303]

Charles Stanley was the BEST. He faithfully honored the Scriptures and taught the Truth. He is dearly missed. I am saddened that his son is misleading people and not faithful to the Word not only on this topic but in other topics too. Thousands of sheep naively follow him. Pray for him to repent!

[@Ntmoffi]

Sometimes the apple falls from the tree and rolls away.

[@stephendickinson7071]

Goes to show that God has no grandchildren.

[@sumerian2]

@@Screwed_Up_Worldlike Mike, pastors who weave the scriptures into their sermons are gold!

[@ChildOfGodSJ]

I was invited to an Andy Stanley church in 2016. At the time, I was probably in the agnostic group. I liked what I heard and kept going. Eventually, I softened up and came back to Christ. I think Andy serves the milk to get folks in the door. It tickles the ears and brings in the $$. But I stopped going a little over a year ago, when the Sunday after Oct 7th there was absolutely no mention of the events in Israel. Our campus pastor was a native Isreali and I imagine it killed him inside. Maybe they didn't get it approved in time.... If the red tape keeps you from preaching and praying about current, Biblical events, then there's an issue. No spine. The organization is too big for its own good. I have since found a Bible teaching church and read my Bible daily with prayers to not be lead astray. Thank you, Andy for pulling me back in but I need the meat, not just the milk. I appreciate Mike's respectful and thoughtful rebuke here.

[@daltonbrasier5491]

Im very confused why that would be an issue for you. Israel is a secular nation that has legal abortions and provides the world with gender transition drugs for children.

[@kevinmorris4517]

My Sister and Brother in law used to attend Andy's Church. We now attend Calvary Chapel Alpharetta. Glad to hear you found a good church as well!

[@haffnewie]

@@ChildOfGodSJ I stopped going to an Andy Stanley church after he did a 3 part series on (I forget the actual title) how to get through this life. I kept waiting for him to mention the Holy Spirit, expecting that he was building up to that, but he never did. Not even once. I was so sad. People need the Holy Spirit to get through life, not another list of “to do’s”. I appreciate Mikes teachings SO much!

[@BeginAgain316]

Awesome testimony ❤

[@emmanuellaford5868]

I am glad you were saved there but Andy is teaching too much error to call it milk. Milk in 1 Peter 2:2 is the pure milk of the word. It is not a lesser form of meat, it is still the pure word, just that newborns will eventually grow into being able to use their senses more (Hebrews 5:14). Milk with poison is not the pure unadulterated milk.

[@charlieshammer6129]

As a 56 year old Christian who was born again in my elementary years I thank God for the OT. The last decade + I have been buried in the OT being blessed by Gods message to the nations. Truly the greatest story (Truth) ever told. Gods revelation is infinte, beautifull and profound beyond the human ability to comprehend, I'm humbled daily by the Truth and Wisom discovered in the TNK. I'm ashamed of not being a lifetime student of ALL the scripture.

[@shortalbino]

Andy apologists gonna come on this one haaaard. God bless you, Mike. Never back down from what God has set you on.

[@carriecosner8166]

Yes, want to add Mike to my prayers for protection

[@floridaLise]

Humans have good intentions sometimes for the things that they try to change. Keep in mind that it says in the Bible, somewhere near the end that you are not to change or delete anything from the Bible. (Which is also confusing considering that the Catholic Church did that.) That would be my argument if they would come against you

[@sumerian2]

Jesus *is* The Word! To throw out the OT is throwing away parts of Jesus! Is going to say you don’t need to believe Jesus was the son of God? The fulfillment of prophesy? Died for our sins? What will he boil Jesus down to-your bro?

[@RechurchedTV_10]

I happened to be reading the Bible through for the first time when my church started this very series called Aftermath, when the Lord began to show me that staying under Andy’s teaching would lead me away from the Lord. Thank you for doing this, people need to hear it.

[@JPGola-n9w]

👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑please pray for salvation for, My husband Pete, and two sons, Chris and Nick.

[@JuanBenjume]

@@JPGola-n9w prayer sent 🙏 to the Father in Jesus Name

[@JPGola-n9w]

@@JuanBenjume. Thank you so much Juan🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@SusanWendel]

I also have sons named Chris and Nick. We will pray for all of them. Love you sister in Christ Jesus. May his Holy Spirit work in all these hearts!❤️

[@JuanBenjume]

@@SusanWendel Amen Amen 🙏

[@cDs8880]

@@JPGola-n9w praying for you and for their salvation ❤️

[@justhectorjoseph]

I paused the video and searched “Hebrews 1 in Greek” on KZbin just to hear the alliteration, and it does sound really cool lol. The Holy Spirit is an amazing poet

[@jkadofo]

Link?

[@junk3996]

@@jkadofo pretty certain you can't post links on youtube. they just get insta-deleted (the whole comment)

[@matj12]

​@@junk3996That depends on the channel AFAIK.

[@Thecatspajames]

I thank you for giving me that idea, I have now found a new channel to help with my Greek studies

[@jamescampbelljr3954]

Andy is definitely leading people down the wrong path. Pray for him! 🙏

[@laurenmay2098]

Andy is a product in the making for a long time. He started developing this gospel, probably around his teen years. I, for some reason, do think he is going to come out as gay soon. I don't have anything against him or his ways of living. But he is a dangerous man and should be treated as such. Unfortunately, I don't think people like him will be back to God. He is the wicked that the Bible mentions.

[@susandunn5580]

It's good to point out false teachers. Keep up the good work Mike.

[@floridaLise]

Too bad. I agree but what a shame. I think I may have just realized that I idolized Dr. Charles Stanley which is a grave sin. So, seeing that the son is not someone to follow saddens me. That is confusing too. Should I beat myself up because I loved one teacher that told the truth, like Mike? There are many reasons why people leave their faith. I tend to have low self-confidence because I am so guilty of sins that I am not even aware of. I think Christians forget about grace. We're all on the same team, right? I feel like I can't breathe sometimes.

[@ellenyearick1039]

​@@floridaLise ★How could you know you are so guilty of sins if you aren't aware of them ? That sounds like self‐deceit to me. As if you are covering your eyes to not see & your ears to not hear the truth. May God help all his children to open our hearts to his truth, b/c walking in disobedience will bring heartbreaking consequences. You can take my word for that; i learned the hard way. But God IS merciful. We can take the attitude that if we tolerate a sex sin, or any, that God understands b/c of the pain we must endure to walk the life that embraces repentance, i.e. walking in God's Right his way< (of freedom). If you feel like you are being strangled for breath, ~speaking of spiritual issues,~ i suggest you contact some ★trusted★ Christian folk & ask for their prayers. I would call Christian ministries like Dr.Stanley's @ In Touch, & June Hunt's @ Hope For The Heart, & Joni Tada, & Mike Winger here, & be as honest as you can be, requesting to be put on a prayer list, if they have one. & i suggest FASTING PRAYER for yourself for BRIEF periods, like 1 day, or 2-2½. Remember that Esther fasted for at least part of a day, (maybe ⅔, + a full day + part of another day, maybe as much as ⅔, & her handmaids joined her in that,) before she went, unsummoned, to approach the king~ as God led her~ concerning the impending annihilation of her people in Persia (by Haman). Fasting for longer periods of time can permanently alter your metabolism; some doctors (professing Christians) have advised against it. God will help you

[@kgebhardt1187]

@@floridaLise Peace to you. Breathe freely and joyfully in the grace of God the Almighty! We all sin in thought, word, and deed, sometimes not even realizing what we are doing is sin. Our hearts are deceitful. Put your trust, hope, and confidence in our risen Lord, for Christ Jesus knows His sheep. Take heart! May the Lord be with you. Sending you a big hug ❤✝

[@floridaLise]

@@kgebhardt1187 Thank you so much for your positive message. May God Light your day with bountiful blessings.

[@zenobiashamrock5907]

Andy is a really good teacher and knows how to make something practical and easy to understand. We've been watching some of his sermons in our small group for quite some time and in the beginning I loved it. But as I started reading deeper into scripture I got a little uncomfortable with his teachings but could not really pin point what it was. It was always small little comments I did not agree with. Thank you for this.

[@interrupts165]

Andy is a wolf. He needs to be avoided all together. a little leaven leaven’s the whole lump. And Andy has a lot of leaven.

[@laurenmay2098]

He is dangerous. He started this transformation a long time ago. Because he was raised as Baptist, IMHO, he just rebelled against God. He might come out as gay or bissexual. There is nothing wrong if he decides to do that. But he is taking many others with him. If a church doesn't agree with you and your view, open one. That's Andy's motivation. I wish I had anything good to say about him. People will go to hell if they don't read the Bible for real.

[@mdsmd55]

🤔… anyone heard of Marcion?? He too felt the OT God was mean and arbitrary… Nothing new under the sun…

[@mdsmd55]

@@interrupts165

[@christinamurphy3845]

As I’ve been growing in the study of the Bible, one of my favourite parts is seeing how connected the New Testament is to the Old Testament. Commentary ordered. Thank you so much for highlighting this false teaching from Andy Stanley.

[@Sandra.shafer7]

This kind of boring is my kind of exciting! Thank you brother Mike for doing these studies.

[@SJQuirke]

Ja - but when your pastor starts sprouting this heresy it will quickly become "not boring"

[@happygirl65]

Mike, thank you so much for doing this. You are so gracious in your presentation of what that man says. A lot of what he says makes me physically ill.

[@emmanuellaford5868]

Same! I felt like I was hearing Satan speak.

[@alexanderplain3398]

Thank you Mike for your faithfulness and Ministry. We love your biblical leadership and example in our household. Praying for you and your family. 😊

[@michaelmiller-bp3zq]

The world needs more Bible based teaching. We as a society have become lazy with our faith and do not want to put time, effort, faith and practice

[@allthethingsyouwillsee1081]

Oh Mike thank you thank you thank you for this video. Please continue to correct Andy Stanley he is in such grave error and I am heartbroken about it. My children go to that church 😢. I thought I had taught them to be more discerning but to my horror they believe every word he says. I am unable to talk to them about it without being told they will no longer have a relationship with me. I cannot send them wonderful information like your video which would help them. Please pray that they will come out of this awful teaching and please pray that our family relationship can be restored. Many blessings to you and your family

[@bethl]

I’m so sorry

[@allthethingsyouwillsee1081]

@@bethl thank you for your kindness

[@droe2570]

Sounds like idolatry to break off a relationship with a parent because the parent disagrees with someone's teaching.

[@morninglynn6281]

​@@droe2570all the more reason to pray for this family

[@megofiachra3247]

Wow, that’s cult mentality.

[@greywisker3180]

Man, hearing that this is being taught by Andy Stanley makes we wanna be the proverbial crazy person in Andy Stanley’s church theater and yell FIRE!

[@mtjc5336]

He recently resigned

[@Andijt]

@@mtjc5336 I don't think he did. Where did you hear that?

[@mtjc5336]

@ I heard it and found it online (Google) that he stepped down from Lead Pastorship on May 1, 2024 but now I’m looking and seeing mixed information

[@tiasherrill6920]

Loved it! I see the transfiguration in a whole new light! How delightful! Also, I've been doubtful of Stanley's teachings for a while. It verges on heretical in too many areas. So thanks for walking through that teaching on the importance of the whole of scripture. The Bible is beautiful!

[@bc4yt]

"Whoever breaks the least of these comandments, and TEACHES others to do so, will be considered least in the Kingdom"

[@danielcarroll8889]

Ah, a cliffhanger. Can't wait for next episode. Really glad you are digging into Hebrews like this. I have been looking forward to this series for a while

[@snowbirdgirl10]

I found you through other Apologetic teachers and have been so enriched by the path you take to teach scripture; theology, apologetics, historical relevancy, application. Thank you for bringing your gift of teaching to the greater social media setting. I’ve been so blessed by your wisdom and knowledge and share it with others. You and your family are in my prayers as you seek to share God’s holy word with the world.

[@ellenyearick1039]

Thank you for that recommend.

[@jamesmecham4266]

Another exemplary instruction. Thank you Pastor Mike. Andy began his false teaching trek a few years ago when he made the statement (paraphrasing): He wouldn't want to debate with today's atheists. Implying he, Stanley, wouldn't be able to refute the supposed brilliance of these worldly people. Hence, Stanley's fear of adhering to Scripture. He's since tried to "unhitch" from the bible entirely.

[@stetsonwatkins]

Thanks for the video, Mike. Throwing away the Old Testament means throwing away the Old Testament prophecies that Jesus clearly fulfilled. The Old Testament has reinforced my faith that Jesus is the promised Jewish Messiah. I definitely don’t understand everything in the Old Testament, but I have enough evidence to convince me that Jesus fulfills the promises contained within and that encourages me to submit to His yoke and trust Him for the rest. Thanks for defending the Word! Stetson

[@FireflowerDancer]

I'm really appreciating your teaching lately, Mike! Your coverage of Rob the Polygamist was just crazy, but to see everyone faithfully challenging him with scripture (in the comments) was so enriching for me. Thanks for what you bring to KZbin, and thanks for being you!

[@seanfreimond]

The whole new testament presupposes the old testament and (inconveniently for Andy) keeps on quoting it... like... THE WHOLE TIME

[@crownsword8045]

Every video of yours encourages me to have a bible-based way of thinking - especially videos like this - keep going, your gift and work is a huge blessing to us! Thanks for walking in integrity and serving the body of Christ with your gift so we may be cleansed by His Word

[@kyle2056]

Thank you Pastor Winger for this video! Not only did you point out the error's in Andy's teaching but you did it in a kind and thoughtful way. Great work!!!

[@terirudnick3197]

You have perfected the most incredible twisting of the teachings of the bible I have ever heard.

[@ogloc6308]

”And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house- for I have five brothers-so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’”“ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭16‬:‭27‬-‭31‬ ‭ESV‬‬ If Andy Stanley’s congregation won’t believe Moses and the Prophets, then they probably won’t believe in Jesus.

[@katierucker2870]

Definitely. Many people these days want a “soft” Jesus. They don’t like the truth.

[@liselbitsangravat]

I attended North Poi t from 1999 to 2011. Andy had some brilliant and beautiful sermons. This is so disheartening. Pray for Andy.

[@sarahteibomusic]

So excited for this series, as I’m going through the Old Testament (hopefully properly) right now!!

[@Horseyperson12]

Charles Stanley's great faith in God must have struggled greatly and sadly watching his son wander off into the weeds. 😢

[@TheChembro]

Andy says he was taught #3 to do all of it. I know who it was who trained him and that was not the message. Will continue to pray this man repents and steps down.

[@JRRodriguez-nu7po]

Charles used to preach that divorce disqualified a pastor and such must step down....until he got divorced. Based on his actions Charles Stanley acted as a hypocrite. Thus I trust nothing he said either. Perhaps the son followed what the father did which was to interpret the Bible to what suited him.

[@traceywood5948]

Thanks, Mike! I love the content, and I like learning from the scriptures.

[@lizmarsi1034]

Thank you for so much truth & scripture to back it up- this man isn’t just in error, but lying to his audience 😢

[@megofiachra3247]

Pastors like Andy are the reason I ALWAYS read my own Bible during a sermon, and do not rely on the scripture provided by the pastor on the screen.

[@pearldrummer2008]

Thanks so much for your ministry Mike! I've been so blessed by it, thanks to the Lord of course. May you never question the importance of your work brother.

[@stewartgray4301]

Hello Mike. I view the letter to the Hebrews as a summary of the whole Bible. It quotes the OT extensively. It does not supersede it. It ties the NT and OT together ... as one.

[@terrignazari6330]

The only word I can think of to describe Andy Stanley is 'Heretic'.

[@Sky-xd2nu]

Christ is King.. Almost picked up my plasma gun for the emperor before I remembered my true allegiance😅😂

[@benjaminprice3219]

Mike wouldn’t affirm this.

[@Sky-xd2nu]

@@benjaminprice3219 Mike doesn't have to. Andy's already preaching a "different gospel" - one that rejects the prophets. He's already in the "accursed category". Hopefully, he repents and return.

[@shadow3porthos2]

I'm doing a re-read of my Bible, and I WILL be watching all your videos on my next read through. Great job and I look forward to watching more. I didn't know this was a world view (to ignore the Old Testament). The new testament enriches the old and vice versa, we understand God and his mercy and love and protection and support and peace only after reading and digesting EACH TESTAMENT.

[@jerryhiggins4816]

Listened to your message about Andy and then switched over to radio for his father, Charles. Wow, they must have been having some interesting discussion at family meetings. Keep up the great proclaiming!

[@TSMart-qi5pp]

Thank you for teaching and help in discerning and understanding scripture.

[@SaniThePoet]

Thank you for your faithfulness

[@4runner4GOD]

Very good! Thank you so much brother Mike! I am so appreciated for your gift of studying and researching on the scriptures! May GOD bless you and your family!

[@liselbitsangravat]

Mike, I am Blessed to have fou d your channel. I unhitched from church during g 2020. I dabble in it Herr and there but it is so hard to find a church that is 100% on point. So I come here, read my Bible and pray.

[@phile.1381]

Pastor Mike, I would not be surprised if Andy Stanley attempts to shut this down as it goes viral. Hold firm my brother and don't let that false teacher intimidate you!

[@hfrt29]

This is far from boring Mike thank you so much for all of your videos❤

[@Peter_Morris]

This is good teaching. I hope those led astray at Northpoint will find it.

[@samsonadebayo890]

Hi Mike, I'm glad to see that the second installment of "The Hebrews series" is ready. I've patiently waited for it, and you have no idea how super excited I am right now. God bless you. PS: Please make it more consistent, thank you.

[@batshuayaddah1567]

Charles Stanley has helped me grow in my life with God more than any other teacher. He was so Spirit-filled. What happened to his son? I don't get it.

[@annettecrady7142]

My husband was talking to an ex Pastor who told him he wanted to read the whole Bible through this year. The man who is still a Christian told him it’s not necessary to read the old testament. That he should just focus on the New Testament. He was not down with that and we talked about it and I said it’s all important. I can’t believe people are trying to separate the Bible as what is important and what is not.

[@peterfox7663]

It isn't necessary to start with the old. And if someone only read the new, they could still be a Christian, but they would miss out on being a mature Christian

[@OJackieO]

Andy almost sounds like he is apologizing to the anti-Israel crowd. It never ends if you go away from truth to tickle ears. Praying for him.

[@JES5181]

Thank you so much for these videos, I know you put a lot of time and work into them. Some times when I am reading the Bible, I am just reading the words and miss a lot. Every video of yours I have watched, something new is revealed to me and it is exciting. I don't care how long they are i am always so interested. You also crack me up some times, you have a great sense of humor. Love you and your cat. 🥰😻

[@markhaszoe-life6337]

Brother Mike, I've been very blessed by your ministry, I've said this before I want you to understand the positive change it's made in my life. Something that I appreciate about you and don't take this wrong is the fact that you're flawed, you're human, and you don't try to hide that. I don't feel the need to hold you up on a pedestal to benefit from your ministry. on the contrary knowing that you're just as human as I am helps me to understand that nobody is perfect except Christ and that he uses us with our imperfections to accomplish his will, in, and through his people. God bless you my brother, May God's blessings follow you and your family.

[@donnahines125]

Thank you for speaking up for the truth and also the apostles teaching..

[@solacemusic242]

Thanks Pas Mike! As a 40+ year believer, I am finding that now more than ever I am fighting doubts about Old/New testament passages, the so called "difficult" passages. I have watched and read a lot of good stuff that attempts to answer those difficult passages (Frank Turek and yourself have some really great stuff on that topic), but I find that it is not 100% satisfying, i.e., I have not had that "aha! there you go, case closed" moment. I end up coming back to "God can and will do whatever He wants, and it is not capricious, but will always be wise and the best to accomplish His plans/purposes". Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that He is Lord. What it seems like Mr Stanley is trying to do is a slight of hand to point people away from the "difficult" things, but in the end it will only make it seem like he is trying to just say "hey, look over there...".

[@jenniferp1826]

Well done Mike. Andy Stanley has started down a dark road.

[@staaudio]

Beginning or ending? Consider a man who the scriptures say was an insane false prophet. He loved the wage$ of unrighteousness, and departed from the truth going astray into error. God has made an example for those doing the same thing by rebuking him by a talking donkey! God has the last laugh.

[@kimbers1238]

This is so packed with great stuff. I'm grateful it's an hour. I get intimidated when it's 3 hours. I've had to back up several times because it's just so packed with knowledge. I'm just so excited

[@junesolomonson5643]

Thank you so much for including your notes! It's really helpful for highly visual learners like me. I had to watch this twice to really understand the heart of why Andy Stanley's teaching comprised such a major portion of this teaching. I admit the first time I didn't think it was necessary and as much as I agree with you that his teaching was extremely harmful, it even felt a little like a hit piece, even though I know you are not that kind of teacher. When I rewatched it made much more sense why it was so relevant to the central message of Hebrews 1. Really looking forward to the rest of this series.

[@johncarminati2326]

What is so sad, is how many people are going to & listening to Andy Stanley. So many will not be ready for Jesus's return. Pray for revival and repentance and morning...

[@ellenyearick1039]

i think you mean 'mourning'

[@johncarminati2326]

@ellenyearick1039 yes, thank you.

[@arditienthusiast8384]

Luckily God is the "Author and finisher of our faith". Take heart in that Jesus doesn't lose any of His sheep. He is the Good Shepard.

[@kigensama]

Thank you for the video and this series. God bless you.

[@MsMlowrey]

I’m excited about these I’ve been waiting 2 months to continue it…

[@melanierollins508]

Its great you addressed this, anytime you get away from the Word of God you are entering dangerous territory, it’s sad

[@Zumbamom]

I love the OT! We need to know the entire story. So many gems in the OT.

[@mungbean345]

Mike, this is valuable. Thank you for putting in the time to compare these views against specific Bible passages in a format that is easily revisited and shareable.

[@jameswelsh3433]

Thank you, Mike. I believe you are spot on here.

[@floridaLise]

What is GOOD about Andy Stanley's "Unhitching" is that it is a platform in which we can delve deeper into the Old Testament truths and help people understand the very basics of Christianity and why Christ dying is relevant. It took me a long time to understand why God required sacrifice and there is much more to the story here. To delete the history, ... the "details" would be even more confusing, in my opinion.

[@colleenowens5181]

@MikeWinger May we have Hebrews separate from Andy Stanley? (I think Hebrews alone alone will age better once it is archived, if that makes sense.) I appreciate all your teaching, and the time and meticulous effort you put all you do. Thank you😊

[@sajiboyz]

YES! Been waiting so long for this series!!!!

[@bntaft5133]

Thank you, my brother. Kudos!

[@1stGenHomestead]

Wait, wait wait you’re telling me that the authors of the New Testament didn’t have the New Testament to read or teach from? I can’t believe it

[@TheLegendaryCazoo]

1 Timothy 5:18 is one of verrrry few examples, that and Peter calling Paul's writings in general scripture

[@ElChinoKwan]

I can understand where he is coming from. Trying to help someone who is struggling with reconciling stories with old testament with new testament. There are stories in the old trstament that can cause division nowadays. For example, God created male and female. Nowadays, people are wanting to add more sexes (and genders). But as you say, Mike. If you can't reconcile both testaments, then you have no foundations and will read scripture according to their own knowledge and not as it was intended. Hopefully, Andy can rephrase this approach. It is ok to still doubt and question things in the Bible. Since we will not be able to understand the Bible to its 100% accuracy. The idea is to keep studying the Bible and try to search for such answers while being ok with not knowing everything. Thanks Mike! Love your videos!!

[@yblackie]

I don't understand your comment. Are you saying the New Testament differs in its view on gender than the Old Testament?

[@ElChinoKwan]

@@yblackie Apologies if you misunderstood what I said! Regarding your question: No, I did not say that. I will try to explain it again, hopefully it makes sense! The world view of today says there are more than 2 genders. The Bible views it as only male and female. (More can be added to the argument of debate between gender and sex, but lets stick to simplicity). Someone with the world view who says there are more genders will see the New Testament as Christ died for our sins and we are to Love one another (Some ignore or never read the rest of Christ teachings). Which those are true, but those teachings come from the foundation set in the Old Testament (which is what Mike Winger was saying in the video). The person will take their world view and see it consistent to New Testament, but when they read the Old Testament it will be inconsistent with their world view and their view of Christ (Specially when they read the laws and stories that go against their world view.) Granted, gender and sex are not the only topics that could cause someone to leave faith due to unable to reconcile between, both, Old and New Testaments. I believe that Pastor Stanley is trying to prevent someone to become discourage when reading the Old Testament and leave the faith, because it does not align with their world view. It is an action that may come from a good heart, but without wisdom, which can lead to worst outcomes (e.g. a poor foundation in their Christian Faith, etc.) Hope I explained it well!

[@KRoy-lx4xg]

The purpose of the Law is to convict us of sin. People want a promise of heaven as glory, or even just God's temporal favor, without having to believe that we are really bad and NEED Him.

[@lauramikow2381]

Without the OT the NT makes absolutely NO SENSE! I'm saddened and appalled that a trained Christian pastor can say such a thing. I'm praying for his soul. He has a lot to answer for.

[@AlexanderosD]

Pretty sure there was a guy around here a long time ago, said something about; "I'm not here to abolish the law but to fullfil it" and "anyone who teaches you to disregard the law will be the least in the kingdom of heaven..." Something like that...nah it's probably nothing to be worried about Andy... 🙄

[@jonathanwilson4949]

Great stuff, Mike. Stay humble.

[@lindajohnson2252]

This is sooooo good!!!! Thank you!

[@BeginAgain316]

Wow ! Thanks, Mike ! One of your best posts EVER❤ ✝️

[@TravisActual-x8s]

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 2 Tim 3:16

[@sharonf3321]

It is really heartbreaking to think how alienating Andy Stanley's teaching must be to Jewish people!

[@larriveeman]

Its too bad folks look to their pastors/teachers for teaching truth, we need to study the scriptures ourselves and check out everything being taught. Stanley is just one of many teachers/pastors who have strayed from the truth.

[@arcguardian]

Well they should be looked at for truth, otherwise they shouldn't be looked at, at all. They are definitely not authoritative, but they should be oozing with truth, and we should be able to glean from them.

[@charliegarnett9757]

I belong to a “New Testament “ church. But we still believe in the whole Bible.

[@WholeBibleWithGeorgeCrabb]

Jesus is all over the Old Testament‼️ When you discover him in Joseph's story, Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, you get to know him more.

[@richard8998]

Andy Stanley is a good example of present western thought “take the win” and retreat.

[@HalLeath]

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11:6

[@ryantylervo]

unhitch from OT? No thanks. The Holy Spirit giving me understanding to the OT made me fall in love w/ reading GOD's Word. No thanks Pastor.

[@nutritionalrevolution]

After reading "Shepard's for sale." I am convinced that he is not preaching this out of concern for those who find the Old Testament distasteful, offensive or unbelievable, but he is saying what his funders are telling him to say.

[@perrimadden6964]

Yay! Been waiting for this!

[@kellichang2172]

Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

[@bc4yt]

I love the way Mike puts the reference video in an old style CRT monitor/tv 😂

[@jeffreybrannen9465]

You and your Critical Race Theory monitors 😄

[@bc4yt]

@@jeffreybrannen9465 😂😂😂

[@aikan7457]

Acts 15 tells us why they gave the Gentiles 3 rules: because Moses is read in the temple daily.

[@RCGWho]

I've heard a couple of great things about the division between the Old and New Testament: Reggie White, the NFL player, once said to tear out the page(s) in your Bible between the two testaments. Also, my childhood pastor used to say, "The New is in the Old contained; the Old is in the New explained."

[@waynejarvis370]

We learn more about the New Testament in the Book of Hebrews than any other book in the New Testament. Best not to unhitch from any of God’s word written, but instead, be led by the Holy Spirit in its understanding and application.

[@JeffreyWillis800]

Andy and his following pastors definitely are going toward evolution of Christianity. Evolving to reject OT, evolving to allow women pastors, evolving to the catholic church for a time and then evolving into something more modern, but all phases that had to be gone through. Next phase? One can only imagine.

[@Sky-xd2nu]

Actually, this has happened in the past. One Marcion and a gnostic group in the 2nd century AD who rejected Yahweh of the Old Testament as "evil." Nothing is new under the sun, I guess.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The entirety of traditional Christianity has rejected the First Testament. It's not a new thing, and it didn't start with Andy Stanley. The Catholicism and Protestantism were both built on a rejection of the First Testament. That's why those religions faithfully cling to their trinity beliefs, Easter, Christmas, and Sunday services as Christian while simultaneously rejecting the Torah's instructions on how God is supposed to be worshiped.

[@Sky-xd2nu]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Sir, this is a Wendy's

[@JeffreyWillis800]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 you didn't even try to watch the video did you?

[@DocLVG]

Huge Hugs & Prayers from Poulsbo, WA

[@marissa-b]

I visited one of Andy Stanley's satellite churches years ago. All I remember about the experience is they played a Michael Jackson song during worship, and I do not recall them tying it into the sermon in any way. I found that to be a little strange. It was only one visit, so I give them the benefit of the doubt. But still, my husband and I did not go back again.

[@ellenyearick1039]

Thanks for sharing that. It is more than a little strange, i think.