ATC: Different controllers, different tempers at JFK! - PART 2

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[@haroldwilkes6608]

I'd love to hear the conversations Steve has with his family...hold short of the bathroom, you are cleared to depart the kitchen, etc.

[@XBradTC]

One thing about Kennedy Steve (Steve Abraham). Notice how he saves the joking for domestic crews. He slows down for foreign carriers and enunciates very clearly for them. But not tug drivers. :)

[@GhostHostMemories]

+XBradTC are the tugs the red-headed step children of the av world?

[@ijalgila]

1:39 I think European airports give direction for the tail of the airplanes to face a certain direction during push back (the direction the tug is pushing), but american airports gives direction for the nose to face a certain direction. so maybe there was a confusion by the captain or tug crew due to habit. interesting to see too that Kennedy Steve always give direction such as southwest etc.. while other controllers may say face the sea, which might cause irritation when pilot had to call again (southwest? south?)..

[@Jrez]

I have seen Steve call for the plane to be facing a geographical object, like the city.

[@joseron523]

Reizaal Aziz that’s not true, when I get cleared to push a certain way it’s always “cleared to push tail _____” not nose facing a certain way

[@2011blueman]

@@ijalgila Yes that is exactly correct, Europeans general use direction of tail while North America uses direction of the nose. The main problem is that a lot of the foreign pilots are not proficient enough in English to catch that distinction.

[@daphnedumont7241]

I bet Kennedy Steve could make a nice post-retirement living by speaking at pilots' conventions and training seminars! What I like about him is that he has time for those rare brilliant comments, but it's not "all about him"; his professional skills are always to the fore. He can put genuine warmth and a light personal touch into the highly regulated communication style which ATC demands. It must be nice to be an arriving pilot hearing his voice on the other end. Love your videos!

[@YPOC]

I'm sure Kennedy Steve would make for an excellent stand-up comedian

[@bethfrazier414]

I like to hear the comparisons between Kennedy Steve and other controllers. He should be the gold standard in the manual. Thanks again!

[@animal16365]

Comparing Kenndy Steve to the others is like comparing gold to lead.

[@2011blueman]

"that is correct lady", would have loved to see that ATC's face when that pilot said that.

[@briane173]

I was thinking the same thing. She was a pro about it; not sure I would've been under similar circumstances.

[@ej2758]

If she had a reasonable concept of Spanish grammar (or if she’d spoken to Spanish-speaking pilots before), she’d know this was likely the pilot’s way of trying to say, “that is correct ma’am/miss.”

[@airplane6176]

"That's correct, lady!" Aerolíneas pilot is such a stud with the ladies.

[@Jchillin757]

Yeah that was pretty uncalled for in my opinion

[@prosperusdoo4520]

Well, linguistic difference. If it was a male Atc, he would ve said Sir.

[@Elisevetter]

@@prosperusdoo4520 Lady isn't the equival of sir, though. Man would be the equivalent. Miss or Ma'am would've been more called for.

[@grmpf]

@@Elisevetter I think the previous commenter's point was that the pilot didn't know or forgot that "lady" isn't the equivalent to "sir". Maybe I need to relisten later with fresh ears, but it really didn't sound like anything else to me.

[@orphmills]

It's an English as a second language thing. I'm sure he was looking for the equivalent of "señora", and couldn´t land on a proper word and so went with "lady" pulling from the commonly used phrase "ladies and gentlemen", or the use of "lady" as a more elegant choice. I doubt there were any bad intentions there. BTW "ma'am" can be so hard to learn, both the word and its usage.

[@MrREH1962]

Kennedy Steve was amazing. He is the standard by which ALL ground controllers will be forever measured by and most will be found wanting. Hope he is enjoying retirement.

[@aaronwcary]

"That's correct, lady!"

[@jackiedeans6603]

Love Kennedy Steve. He can't retire!!

[@adolphuscampbell4339]

Kennedy Steve always cracks me out! How YOU doing? lol

[@joshwelch9639]

That exchange had me cracking up too.

[@BarbarossaTheOcean]

GND: TURKISH2, are you ready for taxi or jut saying "Hi"? lol 02:59

[@ReinSouls]

Kennedy Steve retire in 26 months? And all the aviation lovers said "No!!!!!!"

[@GhostHostMemories]

+Buidalot well 2 years is still a long time.

[@11csewa0]

Obviously not long enough

[@woody6754]

@@11csewa0 he gone

[@thomasdaniels6824]

Not me. The man worked hard in a difficult field in a shitty part of New York for a very long time. He earned his retirement. Hes happy being retired, that should make us all happy for him

[@jenjaine3728]

Only 26 months left 😢. Please say it isn't so.....

[@bb3ca201]

Steve and his tug conversations are legendary

[@H89SA]

First of all, thank you for watching and your support! I really appreciate it. This video is a part of a short compilations I'll upload sometimes in the future, it will contain short transmissions with different controllers. I'll link PART 1 in the description. If you're already subscribed and don't want to miss any of my next uploads, click here kzbin.info_manager, find my name, and on the right side click on the settings and tick the box next to „Send me all notifications for this channel“.

[@kavioconnor9223]

+H89SA Great video :) BTW, GND doesn't say "Copy" when talking to BAW116, he says "South East."

[@H89SA]

+Kavi O'Connor Fuck it, I'm deaf. :D

[@kavioconnor9223]

haha lol

[@chiekoj7273]

So Kennedy Steve is already retired! 😢

[@MrJOHNEBOB]

Can't imagine how Steve unwinds after his shift and what he will do to replace his high stress job once he retires. 😎

[@tomski787]

These are so good...Just when you think Iife is really shitty, it turns out someone's having an even WORSE day than you!

[@H89SA]

+Tom Foyle It's always like that. I'm just glad you enjoy my videos. :)

[@tomski787]

+H89SA I do indeed...PIease keep 'em coming!

[@thomasbaker3262]

Word has it Lan Chile is still trying to figure out where to meet up with Golf lolol

[@shreddder999]

1:05 Okay, this part is incredibly hilarious!

[@peteferretbear3648]

Fuck what a stressful job, these guys are amazing.

[@ungebildet]

Kennedy Steve is the best. I really like him.

[@DigThroughTheClay]

Am I the only one who pictures Keith Olbermann in the tower when Kennedy Steve is talking? Yeah, I figured I was.

[@allybamma1415]

Gosh it's like listening in a taxi office lol same sort thing but planes

[@AA-cw7ql]

Intresting

[@tamidmiller4348]

Someone should make a comedy series out of Kennedy Steve's experiences!

[@jbmbanter]

Just glad we have 26 more months to listen to Kennedy Steve. Something is wrong with my Ytube notify. Will I see all of your new vids just by checking daily like I do know? Thanks.

[@RohitAswath]

+jbmbanter exactly.. I hope he gets to stay longer if he likes. Has any one met Steve?

[@H89SA]

+jbmbanter Yes, you'll find new uploads by checking daily. I don't have fixed days for uploads, so if you want to know by email when I upload something, check out my first post. :)

[@jbmbanter]

When you say 'first post' do you mean the very first post ever? I will look for it.

[@BartoszDotryw]

+jbmbanter The author means first comment under this video - just under the video.

[@GhostHostMemories]

+jbmbanter I'm flying into JFK next month. hope he's working the early-bird shift!

[@marcel1416]

Man, the only one who is doing their job AND having fun doing it is Kennedy Steve (isn't he named like that?). Not trying to be racy, but most of those harsher transmissions are against non-american airlines/pilots. Not only in this video, but many others. They need to realize that air traffic control is very different internationaly. Like the "ramp" thing, I only see that in the US. For example here in Germany the ground controller is controlling you from runway to your explicit gate and vice versa. The ground controller here in Germany will give every plane the "facing" (where to turn the nose to) with their pushback clearance (if there are more than one ways to push). Just an example.

[@GhostHostMemories]

+marcel1416 i think he legally changed his name to kennedy Steve! not really.

[@GermanMinerEU]

falsch. in münchen z.B. gibt es auCh einen APRON Lotsen. Oder in Frankfurt.

[@unclerojelio6320]

Yeah, but pilots are professionals and are expected to know their jobs.

[@mgoblue0970]

Yes, they do seem to be harsh to the foreign pilots. I wish they wouldn't. All except for Air China. Fuck Air China; those clowns mumble like they have a mouth full of marbles. I'd lose my patience too.

[@it-o9910]

I would love to hear you speak couple words in mandarin or whatever they language called.

[@doge1031]

Aw, Kennedy Steve really only has 26 months left with us until retirement?

[@danielmesko4587]

When the guy asks “confirm hold short of kilo-golf?”, probably not advisable for controller to say “negative, hold short of single golf”. Sounds like the exact same thing over a shitty VHF lol

[@mcospottinghd7157]

Turkish 2, lol

[@GhostHostMemories]

+MCOSpotting HD kilo-golf? tango-golf? there's a KG, but i don't think any other @-G taxiways

[@rainbowwriter672]

Kennedy Steve needs to work justa couple days a year…enough for more awesome recordings!

[@woodchuckchipschipschuckwo9839]

Sounds like a .....Few Professionals Hearding a bunch of house cat's....✈🚁🚀🐺🐯🐱

[@norbert1636]

2:16 only NY controller can say things like that xD

[@francesnorred944]

I ALways Wondered Where Kennedy Steve lived;; he doesn't seem to have an accent at All. After a while, listening to tons of tapes, I decided he was from the Bronx because of the way he pronounces November....

[@chanman4rings]

Great! Subscribed! Thanks for the effort

[@H89SA]

+chanman4rings Thank you for subscribing! :)

[@GaryMCurran]

Yeah, and when that 26 months are up, a lot of people are going to be disappointed.

[@MrNiki14]

For first time I saw message for LOT7, can you please seed more with LOT airline? :)

[@H89SA]

+NikeR I think I already did 4 or 5 videos with the LOT. :) Thanks for watching!

[@salami99]

SHit he's retiring this year!

[@dayspook]

Are you ready to taxi or just saying hi? ROFL!!!!!!!!!

[@HamillszDaboss]

So there is more than one person ?

[@zmb412]

We only have another month of Kennedy Steve!! :(

[@H89SA]

Zak B Dude, he retired 3 months ago.

[@zmb412]

H89SA Damn, I was just going off of the video posting date and the 26 months. This brings a tear to my eye.

[@debbie4503]

What does he mean when he's saying Angry Puppy? Is that a picture on an airplane?

[@unclerojelio6320]

I finally have to ask. What is an 'Angry Puppy'?

[@ryanwilson4090]

Roger Banks it's a nick name for the MD88 :)

[@ryanwilson4090]

*MD80

[@JcohenK]

The MD80 is sometimes nicknamed "Mad Dog". "Angry Puppy" is a play on that

[@ChicagoMel23]

Also its descendant the Boeing 727

[@ocsrc]

2 Days till retirement

[@maureenpirone3658]

Can anyone explain what an angry puppy is?

[@annehaight9963]

The MD-80 series of aircraft is sometimes called a "Mad Dog" because of the MD designation. Mad dog = angry puppy.

[@maureenpirone3658]

@@annehaight9963 Thank you!

[@antoineroquentin2297]

Delta tug two what can i do for you

[@PowersDave1966]

Kennedy Steve is Seth Rogen. Has to be.

[@XBradTC]

How YOU doin'?

[@panchoscse77]

What does it means "angry puppy"?

[@airplane6176]

MD-80/90, mad dog is a joke off of the MD part.

[@airplane6176]

+Air Plane And angry puppy is a joke based off of that joke.

[@MarkRose1337]

+Francisco Figueroa It means an MD-80, which is also known as a Mad Dog.

[@thebigitchy]

Air Plane I thought that Angry Puppy referred to DC-9s, which are smaller than MD-80/90s.

[@ChicagoMel23]

It’s also used for the 727 which was a redesigned version of the MD80

[@leggo0116]

What's an "Angry Puppy?"

[@ritalman]

Based on other videos, the Angry Puppy also known as Mad Dog is the joke name for the MD-80 plane series

[@leggo0116]

@@ritalman thanks!

[@jazzi_0453]

@@leggo0116 Angry Puppy is the nickname for the 717, which basically is a smaller version of the "mad dog" MD80. Delta operates a ton of 717s

[@gustavlantz]

26 month of Jfk enjoyment left. When Steve leaves ATC will be a lot less entertaining.

[@ahmadhadder9834]

He's retiring for real? :(

[@Jrez]

"That's correct, lady!" How rude!

[@karlosbricks2413]

You say that, and if they were American I'd agree,though the same thing in spanish is perfectly acceptable (Lady is afterall the politer/formal version of woman), it's just a cultural thing, and I suppose the lack of knowledge of what it sounds like in English, they don't mean harm.

[@tugboat2]

Depends on which lady receives it...you never can tell these days if a woman thinks it a compliment or insult.

[@AntarticSiren]

as an argentinian (female) i can assure u it is likely that he tried to use the equivalent of sir, since we are taught that "señora/señorita" = lady, and we use both of those words to treat a female with respect. 2 years late but why not lol

[@Jrez]

It was just a joke, but I actually appreciate the replies I got to learn something!

[@AntarticSiren]

@@Jrez No worries, i can totally understand how it could have seen as something negative to call her "lady", just wanted to share why that might had happened! everyday the internet is full of new stuff haha

[@thomasbaker3262]

Can Steve come out of retirement please lol

[@deanwinchester7649]

NO OFFENCE TO ANY ONE,BUT I THINK BRITISH ENGLISH IS THE BEST FOR COMMUNICTION,❤️❤️

[@Wingnut353]

Nonsense... its needlessly posh and usually has ridiculous pronunciations for letters like H. Most other dialects of english are plain and to the point.... the fact is American English is much closer to colonial english than current British english.

[@ej2758]

Which language do you prefer for spelling and punctuation, and why are you screaming? 😂 LOL