Murder investigation in the jungle - The Fifth Estate

[@sarahbee3868]

4:22 "I'm going to do my best to help other people" but not his own son, by maintaining steady employment, regularly paying child support, or just being a consistent presence in the child's life?

[@邓梓薇]

It is strange simetimes we care more about others than the people around ud

[@H_A_L_7]

@@邓梓薇 That’s a saviour complex issue really. If you’re a caring person, you automatically cared for your family and others too. I suspect it’s his excuse to abandon family and go off to this part of the world where he can be free from the life he left behind. I remember a case of a young girl going off to somewhere in Africa and end up killing so many children due to her inexperience and have no business to be there in the first place...she’s not trained or have the skills in healthcare.

[@TheElectricalTrainer]

@@H_A_L_7 The absolute scummy Renee Bach and her Serving His Children organisation.

[@joepicot9981]

GreaT poInT banG on 👍🤩👍

[@VolunteerAbroadForFree]

This guy had little to no understanding of plant medicine , the entire point of taking the plant medicine is not to mix it with western medicine .

[@teenieneenie630]

People especially parents, always say "I know my son, daughter, etc. and they wouldnt do that." No one EVER really "knows" someone. You can know someone for 50 yrs. and they'll still surprise you with what their capable of. It's Human Nature.

[@lunagoodhart5489]

It amazed me how little they chose to know about his final weeks and his behavior leading up to his and Olivia's death. Which only leads me to wonder how much and how well they chose know him when he was in Canada. Even from his social media posts you can see him slowly unraveling.

[@wendystewart3826]

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[@wendystewart3826]

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[@jaxxiet5851]

I totally agree with this!

[@davemullins1609]

2 people are dead because of his actions not cause somebody sold him a gun Sebastian pulled the trigger nobody else

[@siennammp4492]

He was a drug addict. His family and friends knew this . You can’t tell me they didn’t know he was ‘off’ if they had to plead to him not to go back . He clearly was not ok had a psychotic episode and killed. Ppl who say ‘ oh he would never do this or that’ are completely in denial. And it’s understandable! But never say never . Especially when the person has mental illness.

[@riverdeep399]

"Help other people" ... His *only* job is to raise his son. All else is secondary. He wanted to get high. He has irreparably damaged a whole community that he did not respect.

[@dhss333]

O perfection & virtue thou art!!

[@riverdeep399]

@@dhss333 Hit a nerve, did thy?

[@ruuutbear]

The villagers weren't frosty, you guys were. They tolerated you but you have no respect for the fact they had a bad experience wit Sebastian, their loss of Olivia or their village boundaries.

[@vickiekay8317]

Sebastian was a demon

[@simonjohnston9488]

KZbin commenter finds it hard to pay attention, nevertheless pretends to know it all. SHOCKER.

[@riverdeep399]

A&W Yes. I would say to me, they came across as still in pain. Not frosty, I thought considering the situation they were very hospitable. They didn't have to invite them to the ceremony, talk with them or show Olivias house.

[@kevinporter861]

Amen.

[@tumbas299]

Not frosty but defensive-- they didn't want the dudes who lynched Sebastian to get caught.

[@whiteraven69]

I am familiar with Ayuahausca and living in South America. First, the number of foreigners like Sebastian looking for the answers and seeking out Shamans for help would surprise this audience. Many if not the majority, have issues mental, spiritual and physical that draws him to this medicine. A large number want to be a “shaman”. What is missing from this short episode is the dark and malevolent spirits that are “attracted” to these individuals and in the shamanic community. Aside from the obvious, mixing pharmaceuticals used for other mental disorders and doing Ayuahuasca is a prescription for a psychotic break. This is just one story involving murder and death in SA , seeking this medicine and traveling into a culture drastically different than western mindsets is not to be taken lightly. I’ve observed and heard numerous stories of people who become addicted to these ceremonies and having complete break downs. These tragedies have happened before and will continue ...people really need to understand what door they are opening when they seek this medicine and the healers who lead them.

[@sidstovell2177]

Same in 'Magic Mushroom' land, close to the city, where I live.

[@esmeraldarivera2262]

Nice thanks for the info

[@kiritarapipipi3252]

Enjoyed reading this!

[@Alezensxm]

Very informative thanks!

[@aliwalker7667]

@@sidstovell2177 no, not the same!

[@briarrose7016]

This guy had it coming. He had issues before ever going to Peru and his dad is clearly in denial. He'd rather go do drugs in another country than take care of his son.

[@camilleanderson450]

Excellent comment. Well said.

[@JosephKulik2016]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5almpmbm9t2is0 -- Sebastian originally started a crowd sourcing account in 2013, but it only got him $2400. He eventually sold his home and lived in a motor home to get more cash for his trips to Peru. AirCanada round trips between Vancouver BC and Lima Peru are around $1500 (for instance, 4 X $1500 = $ 6000). He killed the shaman because he had paid her son $6700 for just one session. Somehow, the financial accounting of this guy's Peruvian scheme still don't add up for me, even if he had a bunch of equity in his home. If he did finance this on his own, then he was probably close to poverty when he pulled that trigger. ... [e-mail]

[@elishbeourque3649]

BriarRose that’s pretty pathetic and you wonder why gods prevailing on the land cause of people like this

[@joepicot9981]

GREAT POINT 👍🤩👍

[@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Absolutely bang on..

[@pattihearse]

This episode should’ve been called “Who or what else but Sebastian can we blame for what happened?”

[@vickiekay8317]

His dad for inpregnated another devil

[@dianna1976]

Vickie, please stop...spread peace to the world not hate🙏🏽

[@elkeve2742]

Understanding and assigning blame are two different things.

[@spacecase7566]

Elke Ve exactly.

[@claires8735]

Exactly!

[@riverdeep399]

Blessings to Olivias community.

[@reneecellini6596]

Responsibility for the shooting was no one else's fault but the one who did the shooting. He bought the gun legally in that country and choose to take someone else's life. He paid the ultimate price, which was his life.

[@Cronoviajero]

Well said.

[@shunsloman9313]

@A Tangerine literally brought it from a police station idiot

[@carlomalatesta7680]

The fact that you can buy a weapon does not mean that you can carry the weapon. Sale of the weapon was legal. A carrying permit is a whole different conversation now.

[@ajfam871]

Thank you. Why in the world would the police man feel responsible. I’m tired of no one having the common sense of personal responsibility. Look this was obviously a troubled man who did not look after his own children, so I hate to see he poor parents saying he’s was a great person. He killed that a lady allegedly. The gun or any object would not kill a person. It takes the actions to an “accident” to do so. FACTS.

[@murrayflewelling1258]

Yup, he got himself killed and the real tragedy is the little old lady...what a POS !

[@LithaMoonSong]

I can't watch this, the absolutely foolish young man, took a life and his family are in denial, he was high, he shot her. Horrible outcome for all, that is all I need to know about the entire awful incident. Ayahuasca is not meant to be used time and again by tourists, it was a medicine and he abused it. sad, just sad for everyone.

[@Marseb574]

Well said! That friend was dumb, total denial.

[@RBFurious]

"he was high" is such bullshit. dont blame the drug blame the person for doing what they did. how is that any different than blaming a rapist for raping while high?

[@rinafabian538]

So what how did he get a gun...so wth

[@H_A_L_7]

@@rinafabian538 This documentary is trying hard to make the circumstances surrounding the incidence suspicious...including trying to put the blame on the person that sold him the gun... which coincidentally quite ironic. He actually went to a police station to buy a gun, that’s a first for me. At the end of the doc...he mentioned the drug tests, implying his body were cremated after the case...ie no chance of doing a second test. It did not cross his mind to ask why did his family not claim his body and give him a proper burial. This is irresponsible reporting...I expected better from the 5th estate.

[@Anonymous------]

@@rinafabian538 He could had done it with a knife. Do you blame the gun shops for all the guns sold by them and then used as murder weapons in Canada?

[@FM-jo1jh]

He went into a village, abused medicines while on prescription drugs and killed an elder, yet his family and this reporter re trying to find someone else to blame? You knew he was unstable.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Typical colonial settler way of going through life.

[@missypuffin8985]

Isn't that typical of liberal Canadian reporters?

[@Sara-jy2bt]

The guy sold him the gun legally. Why would he feel any sense of responsibility? Come on, now.

[@SusanMinhTrangNguyen]

His family and friends are in denial and it’s sad. A person on drugs is capable of anything!

[@SunflowerFlowerEmpire]

Indeed denial and sweeping everything under the rug and only thinking positive thoughts is the westerner way. Look where it got them? Look.

[@whelpdog1]

Why would the cop feel any responsibility? He didn't shoot Olivia, Sebastian shot her, not the pistol. Sebastian pulled the trigger the gun didn't discharge on it's own?

[@lexiaaforever437]

All he had to do was smoke weed & chill ... leave folks alone

[@H_A_L_7]

And the ending of this documentary made me question his family’s dedication...whilst the journalist tried to make it sound suspicious.....his body was cremated a few months after the incident. The family did not ask for his body, either get him home or buried or cremate...whatever way they do it, properly. Why is the journalist trying to make it suspicious? Why is he not asking the father did you go and get your son’s dead body ...why did you left him to be cremated unceremoniously?

[@thethrowawaythatstayed7055]

I feel like people keep trying to shift the blame from Sebastian...

[@murrayflewelling1258]

I feel bad for the bs this guy brought in to the villagers lives. When your own friends are saying we didn't want him to go back and wandered if he was alive you know this guy was nothing but trouble everyday he was in their village! Just a terrible tragedy , especially for that poor little lady, he ruined so many lives.

[@dorotheagr]

The erratic, bizarre, or even threatening behavior of someone having a mental breakdown is not a justification for a vigilante justice and mob murder by villagers esp. of a person who was probably mentally ill. The villagers must be held accountable, if Peru's reputation to the world is to be restored. Peruvians probably trade on westerners coming in to "find enlightenment" and leave money. Had the murdered man been exploited? How much money had the sons of a shaman "borrowed" from him and on what promise?

[@murrayflewelling1258]

@@dorotheagr Nothing that happened in this tragic event has any bearing on Peru's reputation , unless one wishes to be completely delusional when it comes to the facts. Even his friends and family that are painting him in the best light , all acknowledge that he was unhinged , disappeared for long periods of time, and returned " in a darker place" , each time he came back. What is undeniable from what we know is that he was well tolerated in the village, having been caught lurking and turned in to the police repeatedly. But even with what happened, those that were there talked to reporters, even though they lost someone very special to them, and it was foreigners that brought death to their village, they still were nice and showed the Fifth Estate team around. You ask had he been exploited, how much was he owed? What seems clear from both sides is that he continued to see that elderly woman that lived a long life and needed no guards until this lunatic continued to seek her help. She did not owe him money, so how much a different person owed was irrelevant. He could have gone to police for something other than a gun if he was owed, and the real tragedy is that a little old lady thought no man would shoot her in the middle of the day, when she was unarmed, but he was clearly that big a POS......They should have let police take care of him, but they probably and understandably believed that a foreigner could kill a defenseless old woman and just bribe the police, seeing as how they had graciously not hurt him and reported him numerous times without it bringing them any safety, in fact the exact opposite.... It is almost a certainty that the little old woman was a positive force in the lives of those around her, whereas no one would have been surprised if Sebastian was already dead. What happened to him is sad, but he shot an old defenseless person, no prison sentence would have been too long for him ~

[@NoBootyBeauty]

@@dorotheagr Sebastian should have been held accountable for his own actions. Apparently the villagers are "scared" of foreigners, so how do you expect them to act towards one who is behaving erratically, or in a threatening manner? You have culture and laws of the land where you're from, just as they have theirs. You sound so ignorant.

[@pricklypear6384]

@@dorotheagr STFU and dont go to countries to do as you please thinking you will get away with it.

[@MA-fg5hz]

This guy had a family with kids a wife etc.. but decided to go to a tiny village thousands of miles away with his bizarre Rx psychotropic drugs to become enlightened? He was seriously damaged yet his family saw nothing? Or reporter didn't mention this? I feel sorry for all the family of these villagers, minding their own business, living life,then this:(( Dad complete denial.

[@susanraby-dunne8180]

I've been to a place in Peru to take Ayahuasca. I was meticulously screened beforehand, and one forbidden thing was to be taking any psychoactive prescription drugs, as in those named that Sebastian was taking, because of a potential catastrophic effect if you mix those with Ayahuasca. If you were on those prescriptions you were rejected and not allowed to go there. I was also wondering, how could he afford all those trips to Peru? It's really expensive. Sad story all around.

[@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

That's exactly what I was wondering about where he got the money to travel to PERU so many times??? Probably rich family or he had a really great job ???

[@DClean]

The man had an extended psychotic break, a combination of chronic mentall illness and abuse of psychoactives, killed the old woman because he thought she was out to get him, and then was lynched by the village mob. Case closed.

[@kevjtnbtmglr]

Moving to a new location can make you feel, for awhile, that you are getting better. But, even two thousand years ago people noted (Aurelius) that it's BS. True happiness comes from within.

[@t.j.7789]

Sounds like drug abuse to me!!!! He got addicted. He wanted what he wanted. Am I the only person who has absolutely NO DESIRE to go anyplace like that!!!

[@Tia-Louisa]

Agreed. ✌🏽

[@always_b_natural703]

Although his family says they don't understand why he kept going back, it seems quite clear. He had an addiction, and he was feeding that addiction. What a sad, sad case. Mixing medicines of all types, consuming a rigorous and dangerous diet. It's not surprising that this occurred.

[@DavidValter1984]

Something was calling him back. DRUGS...

[@yorzemog4430]

HE WANNA GET HIGH 24/7 in his life

[@leolongoria5348]

Unless you have been a drug addict deep in the drug, then the family shouldn’t say he would never have anything to do with a gun. What happened was he got addicted to that plant which is a drug that can be abused. And when you are an addict to a drug, the addict would literally steal, kill, rob, and pillage. Thats the truth!

[@kijiji93]

i dont understand what message is trying to be conveyed here..the angle is unclear, i'm not sure what the point of this story is. that a canadian tourist got killed by locals and that's bad? or that a canadian tourist disrespects a community and then kills that community's most highly respected individual and that's bad? or that he got addicted and mentally ill by smoking ayahuasca and mixing it with pills and that's bad? fifth estate can do better.

[@MrWorstnameever]

All of the above, man. If it was clear cut, fifth estate wouldn't be down there doing a show on it.

[@em84c]

Yea I have no sympathy for Sebastian. It feels like they want to portray him as a victim.

[@ajfam871]

Very simple is the Cop and the gun was bad. Not the mentally trouble mans who ignored his family and children. Oh and the same man that actually killed that woman. STUPID LOGIC AND REASONING

[@sdarbha4270]

I didn't quite understand why Mark Kelley felt the police officer who sold the gun to Sebastian should feel remorse or responsibility. He sold it legally, and openly, so what else was he supposed to do.. Read Sebastian's mind? Or conduct a psychiatric evaluation of Sebastian before selling him the gun? By logical extension, every gun crime involves a seller - Are those sellers (morally, if not legally) guilty for their customers' crimes? I'm scratching my head.

[@BellaWorldAni]

I hadn't heard about this incident. Personally, I'm pained mostly for the villagers. Most Westerners, b/c we don't live in that manner, have zero idea how deeply these people are connected to one another, how important a shaman is to a community, both for spiritual & medical purposes. Yet they watched as their beloved matriarch was gunned down. Of course, their natural reaction -- b/c of the murder & undoubtedly, due to how much trouble Sebastian had already been causing in the village, due to the fact they feared him -- was to kill him. Now, they're left to deal not only with the death of their spiritual leader/healer, but also with the legal ramifications of what the four men did to Sebastian as well as media interference & Westerners judging their culture/way of life. Sebastian was obviously an unstable person. Even his initial video, though it was clear he was a caring soul, presented as somewhat 'off'. He was troubled. That was obvious. His family should have taken measures to have him hospitalized and/or treated for mental illness & prevented his returning to Peru, even if that meant involuntarily committing him. I know how difficult that can be, but it's what was needed. Now, they're left to live with the consequences. Denying that he had the gun, not believing that he actually murdered Olivia isn't helping anything. Those villagers had no reason to lie about what happened. There's paperwork that proves he bought the gun. There are other witness reports of him mentioning guns. There was gunshot residue on his hand/sleeve. He was high and/or mentally ill, & he killed the woman, & then he was killed in retaliation or even perhaps some last ditch effort at self-defense (not in a legal sense, but in the sense the villagers were probably terrified of him, & they reached a breaking point, trying to protect themselves & their families). I'm sorry for the loss of Sebastian, but to be honest, I'm more sorry for Olivia & the villagers. This troubled young man brought his issues to a people who had nothing to do with his problems. I know his family/friends are in pain, but it'd be helpful & more healing for all involved if they could just accept the truth & express sincere remorse/compassion for Olivia & those who loved her. I hope they get to that point.

[@agentzero323]

How can you have remorse for those who live in barbarism?

[@RoyalMetal9]

This was all a bunch of stupidity. Why this is even reported on to this extent is pointless. I don’t feel sorry for him. He made his selfish choices and crossed a severe line in a foreign country. I only feel sorry for his son. His family knew he was off his rocker and then act shocked at his behaviour and the consequences he encountered.

[@backwardsbarbie5508]

It's his responsibility to look up whether or not Ayahuasca is dangerous for someone that takes medications used to treat schizophrenia. I feel terrible for his family but in so many ways he was very careless.

[@frmgrltuf]

This guy was severely mentally ill. He should of been arrested under the mental health act & not allowed to go back.

[@vickiekay8317]

Well he dead now!!

[@randomvintagefilm273]

Was it mental illness or drugs?

[@kic3470]

Let's call this what it is: ADDICTION.

[@judiblakely3622]

Not so fast. He had some major mental issues!

[@mysteryjesus]

@@judiblakely3622 The drugs caused his mental issues. At the core, this guy was an addict. A textbook case too.

[@brittneewinfrey9559]

I agree with that, but did I miss why he would take olanzapine in the first place? i don't recall hearing if he was diagnosed with any mental conditions. I know anxiety medication is popular with or without having anxiety, but bipolar meds?

[@vickiekay8317]

Yeah right!! Just a common devil

[@ardkoreable]

you cant be addicted to that jungle stuff thahaha let me ruin your day now but real people (mostly addicts then) use real drugs not something they never heart off in the jungle

[@JoanneLG1960]

This show is usually good but they are on the wrong side in this episode... He intentionally murdered that poor woman and he doesn't get my sympathy!

[@H_A_L_7]

Aah.. I just watched this, and had made comments on how hard they tried to make the incidence suspicious.... I expected better from the fifth estate. This is almost salacious...I got the tone of the journalist from early on...decided to skip through...don’t have them for crappy investigative journalism ...

[@budnotu]

It wasn't the gun,it was the man and the drugs. Very sad but very true.

[@georgeaksich9017]

It was just the man.

[@courtneytwait3351]

If you can understand it wasn't the gun, then you should also see that it wasn't the drugs either.. It was the man.

[@Michadoo]

@@courtneytwait3351 💯

[@christiandaugherty6339]

Difficult to shoot someone without a gun though, isn't it?

[@jordanspencer7992]

Oh yes he really had a deep respect for that medicine ,abusing it like that!!!smh

[@이겼다-s8l]

The death of the shaman is also very tragic. They say if you loan money let it be money you don’t need in case you cannot get your money back.

[@squiggyflop]

Sabastian clearly hurt their community. To lose a person with such knowledge of plants is a tragedy for all humanity. Also blaming a guy for selling a weapon is disgusting. He is in no way responsible.

[@sookie4195]

People think that because something grows in nature, it is safe. He was essentially mixing drugs and may have taken too much. Bless his elderly spiritual advisor and the village for its loss of her knowledge that can never be recreated.

[@heidib9427]

Yes father and friends, something did change , Sebastian was skirting real life responsibilities under the guise of “finding himself “ , and taking powerful medicine that he couldn’t handle. It is appalling that all these people say “no, nope, he definitely could not have and didn’t do this “ ..... reality tells us that human beings can and will do heinous things, period. It appears he was ultimately subjected to jungle justice 101 ...

[@shamansean7593]

Oh geez. Fifth estate going off on the police officer for selling the gun. Telling him he was responsible for two deaths because of it. The police officer is right. Nor he or the gun caused any death. The idiot pulling the trigger did. I’m unsubscribing.

[@royalloyalty8248]

Hate this Anti gun bs

[@rainmayhem4255]

Why should the cop feel bad about selling a gun? Its not like he knew dude was a nut job

[@vickiekay8317]

Exactly..they just trying to make the brown people the bad guys!no he was the bad guy.i don't care what his excuse was

[@rainmayhem4255]

@@vickiekay8317 i agree they are trying to blame everyone but the man that pulled the trigger. Dude murdered a innocent women he deserved to die

[@funsweed]

Crazy people in the USA buy guns every day , don't blame the cop for what happened

[@leeob4853]

Race card pulled lol wow

[@lukapopovic6668]

Because it's against the law selling weapons to an individual without permit

[@Mysasser1]

What you mean scared of what? One of your people murdered a village elder and you think you can just waltz in there all Willy nilly...

[@MusicWorldWonder]

@@Jon-op1pr I never said Canadians get away with murder. But Canada does have guns under control it's just the knives that are the problem.

[@MusicWorldWonder]

@@Jon-op1pr , I can see where you coming from but the media in the us make it seem like Canada has more of a knife problem then a gun problem so this is news to me.

[@vickiekay8317]

Exactly!! Then they gonna learn this is not John Wayne movies..you dying pale one Devils

[@violagentsch]

First they make him look like a good guy wanting to help ppl. All he was is a drug addict. He didn't help anybody, but himself to the plant.

[@Watchmetinkering]

You could see it in his eyes he was different than before he left!

[@BLUDDYknucklez]

My theory is that this dude, who clearly had personal issues beforehand, went to Peru and tried the Ayahuasca, under her guidance, but then he ended up having a really bad trip, and he lost control of himself, maybe even thought she was a demon or something, and then killed her in a blind, intoxicated rage.

[@gabriellebernard198]

I hard to believe that people still talk and acts like misguided hippies from 50s years ago. And so much for his plant based medical journey.

[@plutoswifelife4074]

Why should the cop have any remorse for selling a gun legally.....In America people can just walk into a Walmart and purchase a weapon, whatever people do with that weapon is not Walmart's responsibility.....This guy had a young son and rather than be a constant presence in his child life he ran off to smoke hallucinogenic drugs. OK i get it maybe a one time healing process but this guy kept going back clearly he was addicted and his family is defending him like they didn't know this guy was off his rockers...He didn't deserve to be murdered in such an horrific way or at all but he had to pay for the murder he committed.

[@vickiekay8317]

Exactly..excuse trying to make the native brown people sad and they all are not! They all looking like we would've joined and those people will never turn the guys who did it !

[@DebraHoulahan]

He sold the "legally" to a man who did not have an license to OWN one...that is why he is under investigation.

[@cookeish]

God is the truth Highly blessed a

[@sarali8804]

The host is really low and try to guide people to his pre-judgements. I feel sorry for the tribe for their lost!

[@HappyWolverine]

well thats CBC for you always pushing their propaganda fakes news at its finest they are hugely responsible for the cultural divide in canada but may be so stupid to even see

[@fairness668]

Sebastian, was known to the villagers, not a welcomed individual. The parents who “knew” their son were not able to stop Sebastian from going back to Peru. Respect the people’s traditions and respect the law that rules there. The law in Canada is not the law in Peru. We are talking about two completely different cultures. These people lost a very important person. They had reported Sebastian to the police in Peru. Please understand that there is much corruption within police back in Peru and much more in Pucallpa where all these incidents occurred. The young policeman who sold his gun to Sebastian did it rightfully. They don’t know any other way. Before judging the young policeman, people must learn more about the law and rules wherever they go. It was not his responsibility to check if Sebastian had a license. Remember, Peru is a different and independent country and for tight communities like this, Sebastian was an intruder and murderer.

[@Stephyvibez]

New age Spiritual Junkies messing with the Ancient vibes...not a good mix

[@lawrencegower9044]

Well said, pseudo spiritual idiots

[@thelytz9806]

Imagine leaving your child, family and friends for doing drugs in the jungle, what an absolute bozo

[@clintrock]

Oh wow. I remember this dude. He had a whole diary video blog on KZbin. He would sit in some dark hut talking and talking. If I remember correctly he was obsessed with buying a huge amount of that ayahuasca plant but local shamans were leary about selling to him because he was crazy and didn't want to get involved. He had a bunch from before but worried it was fermenting or something. Wish I could recall. Anyone else see those vids? Now I have to try and find them again. He had some strange name he used. He thought shamans were shape-shifters lol

[@007janerussell]

Did you find the video. A lot of my friends here in Vancouver Island where friends with him. Would love to see his videos

[@LisaTrusty]

@@007janerussellI believe the channel is called Sacred Circle .. I just watched one of his vids

[@AO-rr9wn]

They raised an entitled privileged brat with a white savior complex and a bad addiction to drugs. That’s it. I feel bad for the Peruvian lady and the town that had to go through that whole ordeal.

[@ericeandco]

He was mentally ill. He had the potential to be dangerous. Combine that with drugs.

[@Len124]

I think some Westerners feel like they were left adrift by the decline that Western Christianity has undergone in the last 300 years.. They have a sober enough grasp of the situation to realize that their ancestral worldview exceeds the bounds of credulity, but rather than taking an honest, if existentially painful, look at the situation and its implications for faith or superstition in general, they jump ship to some other belief structure. Psychedelics are extremely fascinating, but devoting one's life to constantly using them is no better than dogmatic religion. The "white shaman" trope is a worn path for those that feel their culture is spiritually deficient. This guy needed non-alternative psychological help. Psychological science has its issues but it has demonstrable positive effects on a number of disorders, like depression for instance, through a combination of medication and therapeutic help.

[@sistersofthemaccabees2497]

A police officer selling a GUN to a NON-citizen???????? WTF?????

[@lordw9609]

This host/investigator lost any shred of my confidence when he started grilling the officer who sold the gun somehow insinuating it's his fault. Thats like blaming Ford dealerships for drink drivers. Tools can't be evil but people can. Don't push your judgement when you're trying to be a reporter. The guy would have got some kind of weapon somewhere else anyways.

[@RBFurious]

this is how i interpreted the narrator / documentors speaking with police "u hAVe dIfFerEnT lAwS iN uR CouNtry?! hOw DaRe u!"

[@jakephillips4453]

Imagine you make it to 81. You have all this knowledge about your culture and the plant life around you only to be killed by some Canadian drug addict. If she were my grandmother or mother you can bet I would have done the same to him. Leave those villagers alone.

[@louisp.2798]

Talk about living in denial.

[@bkbekka3039]

The father finds it "hard to believe," or "cant believe..." his son could kill this ederly woman?? Are you kidding me?

[@figment-of-mind]

I'm shocked by this feature. The B.Caapi leaves in Ayahuasca are an M.A.O.I inhibitor. Combine this with the pharmaceuticals Sebastion was prescribed, and it is extremely dangerous. Everyone knows this!! This should have been more clearly stated in this doc. Maestra Olivia was an incredible human being with so much wisdom, What a terrible loss for her community. Her Icaros are medicine itself.

[@BGivka]

He must have been deeply unhappy, long before the jungle. It was his escape. I guess Noone saw, no one could help.

[@edgehill66]

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Always so many excuses for their abhorrent behaviors. It's a shame they won't take responsibility, as they demand of others.

[@vickiekay8317]

Exactly..

[@opalgoon6154]

I feel sorry for you that you live with that deranged mentality, the white people are the enemy and all are unaccountable? Yeah ok 👌

[@rainmayhem4255]

He killed that women and he paid with his life 👍

[@vickiekay8317]

Good

[@rainmayhem4255]

@@vickiekay8317 yep i agree

[@ImJiom]

They robbed 6000 dollars from him

[@Gioachina0279]

@@ImJiom Life is more important then Money

[@hotnAZ]

so self indulgent - sigh

[@georgeaksich9017]

I wish closure and rest to everyone affected.

[@erikm8372]

"he never had a gun or used one or talked about one..." - dad, well, kids don't disclose a lot. lol

[@happyhappyjoyjoy2154]

Sebastian is nuts you can see it in his eyes

[@aurora.the.explorer]

Press be careful representing people like Daniel Love as experts to speak on this as if he has medical knowledge. He does not. Please include a pharmacist, MD, phD, or someone with at least sound kind of actual credentials to claim to be a scientific expert.

[@nepadron]

Mob justice is terrifying. Have watched way too many liveleak videos on the subject I guess.

[@Noodlepunk]

I heard one were a guy was taking his speakers home that were his but the people believed he was stealing them. He was beaten to death.

[@nepadron]

I watched quite a few. Many continue to haunt me. Most seem to be initiated out of ignorance or boredom.

[@parkermelville8342]

Its a brown thing.

[@parisjej]

n. p. So why keep watching it? Are you addicted?

[@daviddavids5088]

I swear Sebastian gave me a ride on Vancouver island a few years ago He was telling me about mushrooms And peru he seemed a very good man He gave me a ride for one So sad about Olivia and Sebastian Drugs will always complicate things Say NO to DRUGS

[@briarrose7016]

No, that's not the correct take here. He was just not being smart or responsible. Psychedelics are very safe and well respected for a reason. He had a mental illness and a mental addiction to the feeling of wanting to know more and became obsessed with himself and that's it. He was a very selfish guy and father, but he does not represent an accurate portrayal of Ayahuasca or any other psychedelic.

[@truenorth7949]

@@briarrose7016 another armchair psychologist i see.

[@briarrose7016]

​@@truenorth7949Actually no. Neurologist.

[@judasdasnitch9799]

Here is a fact! Sebastian was already sick before he got to Peru!

[@stevemartin6144]

Sorry but Sebastian sealed his own fate. His demise is entirely his own fault. You do NOT go to any foreign culture and act like a criminal. His former friends and family are delusional in the extreme. Peru is NOT Canada nor are the police, laws and culture anything like that in Canada. When you go abroad you must respect and obey those cultural norms. Sebastian did not and paid full price. I have no pity, except for the revered woman that he murdered.

[@iwackadoodleyourmarbles9220]

and I'm sitting here wondering WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD FROM HIS WIFE???

[@profhortsunlover1536]

Certainly wasn't parent material, life is simple, all you have to do is look after your family, he ran away from his. Struggling with his sexuality?

[@KwokLeung-q6u]

lets have a moment of respect for the lady victim

[@manleynelson9419]

He wasn't a father. He skipped out

[@manleynelson9419]

The dad is blaming the cops for selling the gun bit claimed his son would never use a gun. Wake up. This kid was whacked out

[@kaynovo8043]

Just DON’T DO DRUGS! Period !

[@kyliethun2096]

Regardless of Sebastian being at fault for his actions....no one deserves to be lynched. From the start of the episode i felt sick to my stomach seeing the video and knowing the outcome. One crime does not warrant a second crime. They dont cancel each other out. Now two people are dead and the only people being punished are the families and friends of both involved.

[@FM-jo1jh]

villagers don't mess around, especially when you kill the oldest village elder. He should've been deported, too unstable and obviously abusing drugs/medicine.

[@EditLivy]

If you want to join the local culture, you also have to accept their punishment for a major crime of such significance. It's as simple as that. 🤷‍♀️

[@agentzero323]

​@@EditLivyNo not at all, you can fight to wipe out that barbarism in this village & all others like it

[@monilangeKootenays]

True

[@EditLivy]

@@agentzero323 Ohhh... I see! Because you think you are above everyone else, you have the right to subjugate others according to YOUR ideas and way of living? You have not!

[@gionoite6157]

For decades I have maintained that ayahuasca is incompatible with messianic ideology. This is based on my observations in the U.S. with enthusiasts and the wider western online forums on which a cycle of perceived sickness finally has the perfect medicine. Obviously the analysis goes deeper... But this case seems more about the money that the canadian said was owed him by the Shaman’s son. If a drug agitated Sebastian’s mind it was more likely the pharmaceuticals he got in Canada

[@PatriotTwin]

The reporter has quite the patronizing attitude toward the police officer. While it's very strange that a police dept would sell guns, saying that the officer is responsible for the deaths is exactly like blaming a car salesman for selling a car to an alcoholic who later drives drunk and kills someone. There's this thing called "individual responsibility" that Canada and the U.S. seem to have forgotten about. And how is it that he was cremated in Peru? is that what his family wanted?

[@ericeandco]

There’s plenty of places where government and law enforcement are corrupt in every country.

[@daveem4008]

Great content CBC as usual

[@popacap21]

19:09 not the fault of the gun.. Criminals will be criminals.. he has no reason to feel guilty

[@Michadoo]

This man should've just stayed in the tourist parts or stayed in Canada. They have shamans in Canada if he really wanted to learn about herbal medicine.

[@jessgillis4103]

Sounds like justice was done.

[@amyexner]

Journalist and regular people put themselves in unnecessary danger.; remember you’re entering a foreign culture/ environment.

[@Jillian-Jill]

When the Canadian man was lynched by the locals, the footage shows him lying in a large muddy puddle of water. His hands, arms and clothing is soaked in water and mud... Now I don't know much about gun residue, but wouldn't it be likely that the water and mud, that he appears to be soaked through in, would wash away any gun powder, or whatever?

[@lburns7952]

No. Gunshot residue stays on the skin for a few days.You can't see it with the naked eye. It requires a special chemical test to see. It can't be washed off with water, soap or bleach. :)

[@MsNoPixel]

So they’re treating drug addiction with something that’s essentially a hallucinogenic drug... that makes soooooo much sense, more people should treat drug addiction with hallucinogens cause tripping out is exactly what you wanna do when trying to get off drugs.🙄 Ugh.

[@clasijuls1]

His poor father ,I feel so sorry for him

[@That1ThatHasIt]

Interviewer is a tooooool-box......

[@ginexkasachstan]

Thats nothing else than a drug Party in the Jungle. Thats actually nobody should do with an unstable mind. That his family and Friends cant imagine him with a gun you Never no what hallucinations do with you. He would have done better with raising his son instead taking drugs

[@RachaelClag]

These journalists, picking on the policeman that sold him the gun was just silly! He sold it legally and probable needed the money. Would you go after wallmart or wherever you buy guns in the USA if it was bought there?

[@samantha-7672]

an eye for an eye

[@royalloyalty8248]

Makes the whole world blind

[@annielafreniere4682]

This story if full of holes. I don't believe one single word of the Peruvian authorities. The villagers found their shaman dead but nobody seems to have seen what happened. Sebastian was in the area quite often and they didn't like him at all. They needed someone to be responsible for the death of the shaman so they pointed their anger at him. How convenient!

[@simplysyndilou6768]

Agree The 2 apparently circled death spots have zero blood or crime appearances. The video of him being attacked and abused is a wet muddy different spot? The gun is in total grassy area? Why is there video of him being beaten, but no evidence or video of her death. Where's proof that this woman was killed by him. Maybe police involved 🤔 this would cover the gun involvement ? So many things wrong here

[@santiagocedillo5025]

This ppl asked on fb if someone knew where he was.... Yet they say they knew him.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

Obviously, if you have something off kilter within you, then don't do drugs. How do people who are not all there think doing drugs will help?

[@donatsu8]

Knowledge of the Ancient Hindu Vedas: 'Peace and salvation exists within you'. Side note- Please don't discontinue your meds.