Drinker's Chasers - Blue Beetle: The Movie Nobody Wants

[@toonfannufc1157]

Who remembers the days when we where genuinely excited for the latest Superhero movie! Long gone now 😔

[@chasehedges6775]

I remember. Such a sad reality

[@asantesamuel13]

Yes, when X-Men The Last Stand came out I was still excited. A cast with mature adults and a compelling story, not these upstarts who haven't earned roles like this plopped in front of us who have nothing to offer.

[@hasselett]

It's just a diluted market now. There are too many superhero movies and they're all way too similar and bereft of identity. It's so fucking boring.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

@@hasselett That's the long and short of it. In the past, people watched superhero movies because when they went into the cinema, they were expecting a good mixture of action, comedy, and an interconnected universe with consistently evolving characters. The suits looked at this, and only saw "People like movies with super-powered people and lots of CGI destruction, that's the ticket!", and have been trying to milk the audience based on their misunderstanding while ignoring the actual reasons why the genre became popular.

[@lilxtasy4936]

gotg 3, spider-verse

[@cognitivedissidents4642]

Blue Beetle isn’t even an original DC property; it is a legacy from when DC bought Charlton Comics.

[@bad-people6510]

And even this version is a top to bottom rip off of a manga character called The Guyver.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

And Charlton re-imagined a Golden Age hero who was a police officer in chainmail armor.

[@fattiger6957]

@@bad-people6510 And Guyver is way better because it features gruesome graphic violence.

[@bintjbeil7892]

​@@bad-people6510oh my God, this is so true because Guyver basically as the same biomechanical suit man vs evil corpo.

[@bad-people6510]

@@bintjbeil7892 It's the exact same origin, the exact same powers, and a very similar look. Even their enemies are very similar.

[@SpaceJawa]

I think Blue Beetle might have had a chance if DC had known what they were doing, the character has actually had some moderate success in the comics and through being a significant side character with good adaptations to animation, both Batman: The Brave and the Bold and Young Justice. I actually did have some initial interest in the movie, but what killed that interest was: 1) The "Batman is a Fascist" line from the trailer 2) The attempt to promote the movie on racial grounds 3) That the Beetle suit itself was using a 'happy, friendly, encouraging' personality rather than the bloodthirsty killer war machine psychopath personality that Young Justice used so well 4) That DC is just an ugly dumpster fire overall right now The movie may have had a chance in concept, but in practice DC did everything wrong.

[@TacticalToast99]

I couldn't get through the first 40 minutes

[@KarazolaX]

I just remember watching endgame and thinking "Yeah, this is the peak. It's all downhill from here." Say what you want about endgame, but the finale of it felt earned, at least. It was a decade of buildup, and seeing just about every movie represented in that final fight felt special. From someone who had been watching it since phase 1, it felt like a great ending to one of the biggest risks that a film studio has ever taken. I consider phase 4 apocrypha.

[@Wanda711]

Kind of like the end of "It's a Wonderful Life", where every character who played a part in the story has a walk-on and contributes to the happy ending. After that, the story is done. There's nothing more to say, and we don't WANT anyone to keep talking. We want to leave with our nicely-wrapped present in our hands, and head home happy.

[@KarazolaX]

@RichSmithson Yeah, it stuck out like a sore thumb, but the movie itself besides that is honestly pretty fun. I wasn't bothered by fat thor, it was a bit over the top but I honestly liked it, because it showed how damaged Thor was. He didn't think he had anyone left who he needed to be protector for. All of his family was dead, and his he'd known for thousands of years were gone. The stuff with Hawkeye was great, and the finale was a great set-piece to get everyone in the fight in a meaningful way. People didn't like the alternate timeline thanos but it was a decent way of the movie having its cake and eating it too, so they could use the more classic thanos design and have his children show up to fight. The only thing I wished they'd done was set up some properties between infinity war and endgame so we could have gotten more in that period of time, we got far too little of that five year gap to soak in.

[@MrDj232]

The time travel plot, character assassination of Thanos, and M She U crap made Endgame suck for me. Infinity War is where I end the good MCU.

[@garbo7779]

Endgame sucked . Infinity War was the end for me . Thanos just should of won

[@SF-eo6xf]

Infinity war was the peak

[@thetastytango7374]

Funny thing about Blue Beetle. In the 80s there was a manga called The Guyver: Bio-boosted Armour which was about a teenager who was forcibly infected with an alient parasite that gave him super cool armour, an array of weapons, superhuman strength, and an autopilot whenever the hosts life was in danger and is hunted by an evil megacorporation who want the armour for themselves.. Jaime Reyes (who is also a character in the video game Deus Ex) was introduced in 2006. Save your money, watch The Guyver instead.

[@JohnSmith-sb2fp]

The Guyver was so awesome.

[@TheWesker1988]

It's a shame Guyver never got the story concluded

[@aikighost]

Guyver was also brutal AF, heads exploding all over the place. Win win :P

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

I just watched it and the family arc is near on 3/4 of the movie and the rest was just corny and ultimately shite. 0 out of 10 for me. In the comment section of the trailer. It is full of people who have seen it and they all love it. It shows how many people are actually gone and the system has got into their minds. The world is lost because as us older ones are all gone, all that will be left are the zoomers who’s minds have been trained to consume and enjoy whatever is put in front of them.

[@aikighost]

@@Vile_Entity_3545 have you considered that there may be bots and deletion of negative comments going on? Amazon did this with RoP.

[@Xardas80]

I felt the "hero fatigue" right after the Infinity War arch, after Endgame I was done with superhero movies and since then none of the superhero movies caught my attention.

[@CynicalReactions]

Same. I tried watching some new Marvel stuff after taking a break, but good lord, it's so boring.

[@toms7114]

The only superhero movies I've watched after Infinity War has been the 2 Spiderman movies, none of the rest have appealed.

[@KiltBill2]

Endgame marked the end of a decade, and goodbye to the snarky (Stark'y) humour worked for us when we were 10 years younger. But between the existing movies and streaming services at home, I don't want to spend £10 per head to take my kids to see something we've seen before, repackaged and making me feel like a mug.

[@bones10145]

is it super hero fatigue or terrible movie fatigue? I'll always watch a superhero movie if it's not garbage.

[@MrClassicmetal]

Endgame... ewwww....👎🏼

[@logofthelex2668]

I like how new films are flopping before they’re even released.

[@scottbuckley823]

Dead on Arrival

[@Rat-King27]

It's got 91% audience score on rotten tomatoes, which is weird if it's not released properly.

[@RobinLundqvist]

That's how recycled the writing has become

[@JeromeProductions]

indeed

[@och70]

If the directors, actors, etc., would learn to shut the hell up, it might help.

[@adamantiiispencespence4012]

Guardians of The Galaxy became a whole film saga that performed consistently well despite the fact that the whole ensemble of characters were virtually unknown. Its not the characters that are the problem its the way the studios are telling and marketing these stories. I actually really liked Morbius from being introduced to him in Spider-Man the Animated Series and wouldve loved to see him get his own film. That interest died for me when they cast Jared Leto.

[@jimthar17]

Yeah but remember they were intertwined with the whole MCU and Thanos thing too. So it was almost required reading to keep up with the story that was being laid out. I'm not saying they're bad movies but just that you would have missed a lot if you didn't see them. If a GOTG movie had come out years ago outside the framework of the already existing MCU then it likely would have bombed. Though I will say that the original GOTG movie is one of my favorites in the MCU. They tried that "required reading" trick with Captain Marvel too but I think people were wise to it at that point. Same with Ant Man but that was earlier in the timeline. All three are characters most people didn't know or care about.

[@moonknight4053]

Yeah I feel u on the Leto casting, what are on ur thoughts on Tom hardy and venom? I like Tom hardy a lot but for venom was bad.

[@xitaris5981]

@SpaceCaptainV Uhhhhh what?

[@xitaris5981]

@@moonknight4053 I didn't mind Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock - but then again I don't know his character too well. I do think the Venom movies were terribly written though and Tom Hardy was the only thing that made them bearable.

[@JadeRunner]

Tom Hardy: "Are you asking me about _my_ sexuality?" Journivist: "Yes." Tom Hardy: "WHY?" 🤣👏👍

[@DdHenley307]

Between superhero movies and fantasy adaptations , I've rediscovered a love for turning off my TV and doing literally anything else

[@r.8902]

based. i actually went back to reading books bc of all the garbage that has just been shoved down our throats for the last 5 years

[@naughtycicero1460]

I did have hopes for this movie. I was introduced to Blue Beetle in Batman The Brave and the Bold, and he was portrayed as a Peter Parker-esque Latino kid who has the powers to fight alongside Batman but is still learning how to be a hero and living up to the legacy of the Blue Beetle’s before him. But yeah, there’s been little marketing on this film.

[@dontshootmex5588]

If it wasn't for you guys talking about it, I wouldn't even know this movie existed. Says a lot about the marketing and the faith DC has in it.

[@ramigilneas9274]

Exactly… I didn’t see a single ad and no one I know ever mentioned this movie. I am pretty sure that no one I know knows that this movie exists.😂

[@Some0neSomewhere]

Same. Literally haven't heard a single word about this until this video.

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Where are the blacks?no diversity

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

I guess DC decided to cut the losses by keeping the marketing budget low.

[@paulseifert6598]

I think the studio is resigned to it bombing, has been that way for a while, and is content to just let the "free" advertising of activists baiting the fans and pampered production staff begging to be noticed for checking the right boxes be enough. Instead of cutting any more checks.

[@BladeTrain3r]

All it really needs to do is take the buddy cop formula and apply it to a superhero movie, considering that Blue Beetle and Booster Gold are very much a bro pair in the comics. That teamup of two d-list heroes, each fairly insecure in their own right and looked down upon by the other superheroes, could in theory give them something solidly unique to work with, and give an uplifting kind of story as they prove themselves to be more than just a rich boy with fancy gadgets and a petty future thief. But it's just gonna be generic superhero crap.

[@davidwilliam9681]

That's a great idea that could actually work.

[@trevorghalt1881]

That's a fun idea but different Blue Beetle

[@AngelicCrimsonDragon]

I like that idea. The old animated Justice league series had a lot of episodes where it paired a lot of non OP heroes together. Question and Huntress, Arrow and Canary, etc

[@Shockguey]

@@AngelicCrimsonDragon This partnering is the kind of thing that everyone loved in Infinity War.

[@bad-people6510]

Or Blue Beetle and The Question, because they used to hang around with each other a lot.

[@Drakonis.Imperial]

I've noticed that too many of these movies are deemed "Blockbuster" by fiat, rather than performance. It's basically declaring itself the winner before running in the race. A "Blockbuster" is characterized by great financial success ... so maybe, I don't know ... SUCEED before declaring victory.

[@kingcosworth2643]

A blockbuster is more to do with the production company involved and the budget allocated to creating it, as oppose to box office results. A movie from a small production company that does well is not a blockbuster, SAW is a great example.

[@fattiger6957]

Pretty much. Saying a movie is a blockbuster doesn't have anything to do with success anymore. Maybe at one point it did, but now it just indicates its budget level.

[@Drakonis.Imperial]

@@fattiger6957Yeah, sadly it falls in line with "Award Winning Actor" ... it loses any prestige when the actors are the ones giving themselves rewards. Even so-called "People's Choice" awards are just allocated by the "People" within the industry. I guess "fake it till you make it" is the Hollywood standard, and if you go against the group you get blacklisted and defamed.

[@jimthar17]

I feel the same way about the misuse and overuse of the word Blockbuster. Movies these days are called blockbusters before they're even made or released and sometimes still called that after their failure. It's a complete misunderstanding of the definition of the word. I myself have mentioned this in several videos in recent times. I drives me nuts.

[@TheOriginal_Unaleska]

Its called gaslighting. Hollywood have down in spades.

[@mr.smith45]

As a kid Batman:Brave and the Bold was huge for me and my absolute FAVORITE was Blue Beetle followed by Plastic Man. And I always wanted a Blue Beetle Movie but as soon as I saw the trailer all my hopes flew out the goddamn window.

[@justmehere6094]

I've already forgot about Blue Beetle. That said, having lived and read through the "golden era of comics" and the first explosion of independent publishers in the 80s and 90s, my favorite Marvel Characters From Childhood, were Iron Man, Hulk, Spidey, Thor and Dr Strange. So Spider Man and Iron Man being some of the first made me happy. BUT, it was Robert Downey Jr that made those movies explode.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Angel Manuel Soto: *mocks the fans over the insult at Batman and revels in it* Also Angel Manuel Soto: *begs the fans to watch Blue Beetle and make it a box office hit*

[@nont18411]

I just can’t believe that the fans don’t want to see their favorite hero getting insulted

[@Fl0k5ser]

As a huge Batman fan, I'm pretty okay with the joke. It's really not that deep saying Batman is a fascist. Affleck's Batman is pretty much like that I guess 😂

[@schmity007]

​@@Fl0k5ser🤓

[@FrankLucas-pw5hs]

it wasn't an insult - it's just an observant fact. Batman is a fascist.

[@4evrluvbk]

@@Fl0k5serI agree. also, the character was a conspiracy theorist who shouldn’t have been taking seriously about his remark.

[@scormern]

I got introduced to Blue Beetle in the Young Justice series, they had a whole arc around it's origins

[@Drawnartist]

Great show

[@tokitoki9156]

​@@Drawnartisttbh, only the first season was good

[@tonygreenfield7820]

I think the Blue Beetle character featured in a single episode of Smallville. I had just assumed they created the character for the episode as I had never heard of them before or after.

[@Darkwintre]

​@@tonygreenfield7820Along with Ted Kord and Booster Gold.

[@beavers1978]

My introduction to Blue Beetle was in Batman: The Brave and The Bold cartoon show.

[@thisisscorpio6024]

Blue Beetle completely captures my disinterest.

[@C0ldIron]

Sad part is I actually am a fan of the Blue Beetle. Jaime is a fun character but part of that is his inexperience and the established heroes that support him. Without guys like Booster Gold in this setting I really doubt how well this could have gone since the original pitch meeting.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

I would have preffered a Young Justic movie with him as part of a larger cast then a movie starring just him. Maybe they were hoping for their own version of Iron Man, to kick everything off? Their mistake was not having good writing and an established charismatic actor to kick it off.

[@darthvader3465]

Wow wow wow.. wow

[@shockwavecg]

I must say, the Critical Doggo makes some very good points during this segment.

[@scottbuckley823]

Imagine if the Iron man suit was venom but with out the personality and you get Blue Beetle's suit.

[@jlev1028]

And the movie's just as schlocky as Venom's.

[@paulturner4684]

I thought it was more like "Baby's first Guyver"

[@scottbuckley823]

@@jlev1028 Venom was slightly better as Venom and Eddie have a buddy comedy team up feel while the beetle is a boring voice without personality

[@michaelkeha]

the bigger shame is the cutting out of the very long legacy of the Blue Beetle mantle that's kind core to the third Blue Beetle's entire story

[@mrshmuga9]

I would’ve just said “Teen Green Lantern” given his powers are ideas manifested into reality.

[@apborick5796]

Diversity is a shield that current day writers hide behind. They're sh* t at writing so instead the scream, Look at how clever & diverse we are.

[@richardbradley2335]

Diversity is itself shit and self serving...That's why in england the windrush generation keep on saying ''we bought vibrancy to england'' ie nothing.

[@Dirtysock413]

And pay us more

[@nmr7203]

I don't think they use diversity anymore, it's usually representation now.

[@Mabra51]

shit*

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

That’s true, much like the rainbow flag. They all hide behind that too. I’m so over it in everything!!

[@michaelmoore2679]

We could’ve had Booster Gold trying to save Ted Kord’s life.

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

True, but in their mind Jaime is the easiest route. He is young, has an alien suit with lots powers, is Latino, so in their mind he is an easier sell to audiences than Ted.

[@maxcady360]

I just came back from the movie theater. I think it was a decent movie. But the fact that this was shown in a smaller room instead of the main one it does say a lot about how much confidence WB has.

[@johndoe8785]

I need more Guy Ritchie movies in my life. I won't even pay attention to a super hero movie anymore.

[@JCJW101]

There's a loads of new ones on Prime from Guy Ritchie. Not Gentleman quality but still good.

[@trevorghalt1881]

I first fell in love with Blue Beetle because of Batman the Brave and the Bold, love the character and good times

[@Shockguey]

I watched the episode last night and I wasn't impressed. Due to the strength of the armor they had to nerf his intelligence in order to even have a plot. The only thing that kept me going was the adorable amoeba people. It was immediately followed up by Plastic Man who was so much more fun and interesting as a character. His power is more or less the same (make anything you can imagine), but he can't lose it and he doesn't have flight. So he had to be far more resourceful on top of having a pre-established arc as a former criminal.

[@kidcourage5777]

Same

[@paulturner4684]

I saw this myself yesterday and I'm sorry to say that it just wasn't a very good film. It feels like The George Lopez Show featuring The Blue Beetle. There are also some very insufferable lines attempting to be snuck in under the radar. The disappointing thing is that they did not give the lead of the film a chance to shine. He seems to be a fine actor with what he was given, but he wasn't given very much. He doesn't overcome anything, he doesn't come up with an ingenious plan to solve a difficult problem he's just "hero kid who likes his family". Susan Sarandon was particularly awful in this and the director's inexperience was obvious. The big names probably walked all over him.

[@alexzapf6422]

Gerorge Lopez 15 minutes of fame were done about 14 minutes ago. He needs to go away. Not entertaining anymore.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

I'm told that the guy in the beetle suit makes not only wrong but deadly decisions at almost every opportunity. To make his family important, they have to make him beyond incompetent into outright stupid.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Xolo Maridueña is too good to be in garbage superhero movies.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Critical Doggo has given a constructive review about Blue Beetle movie and it was very enlightening.

[@asantesamuel13]

A real visionary! 🎉

[@eFRapidfire]

@@asantesamuel13 the only visionary thing here was this joke. Truly groundbreaking humour, never seen anything like it

[@TheKpa11]

I’m starting to think critical doggo isn’t sleeping

[@dureally]

Blue Beetle in Young Justice is a great character, he has the power to enslave humanity and has to struggle with the inner conflict of knowing what he could become.

[@markiangooley]

I’ve heard of Blue Beetle only because the hero of Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files novels, Harry Dresden (a private detective who’s also a fairly powerful wizard, in a Chicago where most people haven’t heard of wizardry or anything related and don’t believe in it when they do), drives a VW he calls Blue Beetle though it’s not blue. He has to explain that the name’s a comic book reference TO EVERY CHARACTER WHO ASKS, because nobody else has heard of Blue Beetle! Butcher seems sure that most readers haven’t heard of Blue Beetle either.

[@FilmGuy7000]

I'd completely forgotten that reference. I need to reread those books.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

I expect they're emphasizing the Latino cast because _"Sound of Freedom"_ has been doing so well and has a lot of Latino actors. Note that _"Sound of Freedom"_ did not *advertise* itself as a Latino movie. Some Trivia from IMDB: 1) The film was originally set to be exclusive for Max (formerly HBO Max), but it was granted a theatrical release. 2) DC Studios CEO James Gunn (who was hired after the film's production) stated that while the film is set in the DC Extended Universe, it is ultimately "disconnected" from the universe. 3) The first DC movie based on a character who debuted in comics in the 21st century. Jaime Reyes debuted in Infinite Crisis #3 (Feb. 2006).

[@anotherthing]

This Blue Beetle has been around for over a decade.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

@@anotherthing - Yes, 2006 is more than a decade ago. Very perceptive.

[@DamienDarkside]

Fun part is, SoF used Latino actors because they knew they are way cheaper than white actors, so what does that say about Blue Beetle? Probably not the message DC wants to send.

[@MrDj232]

Blue Beetle debuted in Mystery Men #1 in August of 1939. Using the 3rd person to don the mantle to pretend he's a new character is pretty disingenuous.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

@@MrDj232 - Thanks for the extra info, although I'm not sure what you mean in the second sentence. The three points I listed there were copied from the page at IMDB, since I don't know the history of any of the comics. Who's using the 3rd person? Me? Disingenuous for me to copy info from an IMDB page? I even said that was where I got the info from! (it's not like I was pretending that I knew the info myself). I actually thought the first bit of trivia _(that I copied)_ was the most interesting. If it's true that this started out as a HBO-Max exclusive, that might explain why there has been relatively little publicity for it.

[@thelaughingrouge]

Across the spiderverse and GotG vol3 prove that superhero movies can still do great. It's not superhero fatigue, it's bad writing fatigue.

[@RedDeadRanger]

Didn't need to scroll far to find it lmao. Thanks for telling me how I feel about... "Superheroes" 😂

[@MyShiroyuki]

Maybe we should call it "Strong Woman" fatigue?

[@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854]

At this point is more of a “Bad writing Epidemic”

[@user-oe8tx9co1p]

​@@MyShiroyukibruh there ain't even a "strong woman" character in Blue Beetle, stop spamming this shit

[@jsward96]

Spider-verse distinguishes itself quite significantly by virtue of being animated. And whilst the Guardians films are part of the MCU, they're more space opera than superhero movie. Bad writing is definitely killing the genre though.

[@ChuckJansenII]

You know. Sometimes you gotta fall down to learn to walk. But how many times DC gonna fall down?

[@levongevorgyan6789]

They could have used their animated movies as templates. Those were good.

[@ChuckJansenII]

@@levongevorgyan6789 They could have. But they didn't. UGH!

[@billlyons7024]

The idea of the Blue Beetle character is not so bad, I like that he can't control the suit, it has it's own personality. It's interesting.

[@mkno2799]

The problem, though, is we already have a character who falls under that category: Venom, who's films are more mature and funny. Plus it didn't have to call a well-known hero a fascist for force humour.

[@globesurfer122]

​@@mkno2799exactly, plus the whole 2nd act of Spiderman Homecoming where he's trying to figure out his suit

[@mkno2799]

@globesurfer122 exactly, Gunn wanted to a story about a D-lister hero. He should have chosen the original beetle and Booster Gold.

[@wasteddude]

​@@mkno2799who cares if there's already venom. What matters is the execution. And I think DC will fumble this one too.

[@billlyons7024]

We can have more than one character like this. This is a kid with an alien battlesuit that thinks it's in war and everyone is an enemy. It's interesting to see the kid try to force the suit to be a hero, rather than just slaughter everything that moves. We all complain when they race-swap beloved old characters. "Make a new character!" we say. Well they did. The problem is the people making the movie are more concerned with the way they will be perceived, rather than with making a good movie for fans.

[@Neonsilver13]

To be fair, it's actually not that bad an idea to do such a movie with a relative unknown hero. It allows the creator to be a lot more flexible and you can more easily ignore the movie in a cinematic universe if it doesn't work. The DCU probably would have been a lot more successful if they had used some of their B-List characters. Instead of firing their best load immediately with making Superman and Batman.

[@FoulPet]

The ignore lore anyway, so it's doesn't matter.

[@thexenoist3493]

Wait until Suicide Squad Isekai becomes the most popular DC instalment of the year it comes out.

[@koslisted9458]

No flocks of people ran to see Black Panther. In fact there are lot's of videos of Wakanda live action dancers up front performing to empty theaters. It's the movie that got the Disney buying up seats with Fandango which Disney ALSO owns conspiracy. You could call that a theory but I've in person spoke to theater managers and they say. No it's NOT normal for 95% seats bought online 100% NO shows for those purchases.

[@NewCanada]

I liked Blue Beetle in Batman Brave and The Bold.

[@estellacomics5127]

Mexican here, i just wanna comment that, here in Mexico, the Blue Beetle became as sort of a meme like Morbius. It was a meme to spam "Blue Beetle August 18th only in Theaters" on social media and that it was gonna make a Beetlellion Dollars, when nobody really cared and everyone knew nobody was gonna see it. So yeah, at least here in Mexico, the Latinos didn't give a fuck about this "latino led" movie

[@renkol123]

I loved the old Blue Beetle comics. Found a whole bunch in an old hole-in-the-wall bookstore. Bought every one I could find and read them as soon as I got home. I would have loved a Blue Beetle movie about fifteen years ago. Now? I'm good. I don't want this Hollywood to make it.

[@inthefade]

I was never tired of super hero movies. I just stopped watching the shitty movies. I love GOOD super hero movies and I wish they had kept making them.

[@codymegehee299]

I was tired of them ten years ago. Thank GOD they’re dying

[@yoinkling]

I'm looking forward to it, I hope it's good. I'm not sure if this character should be "done" considering it was in a tv show, we'll see.

[@presleypatterson9834]

It’s not very good but it’s slightly enjoyable

[@brothersingaming6372]

I need more of a reason to see a movie just because the main cast looks like me. I really don’t care if the MC looks like me how is the plot, the action etc.

[@Crimson28]

No offense, but this is a movie I wanted. It’s nice as a Mexican American to finally see a superhero that looks like me on the big screen. I’ve always loved Jaime Reyes as Blue Beetle. As a DC fan, we need more DC superheroes to get a spotlight than just Batman and Superman.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

May I ask (legit question, I am interested to know) why do you find the look and ethnic origin of the superhero particularly important? Is it because of the often not exactly flattering representation of Mexicans in Hollywood big movies, so that a Mexican superhero would make a welcome change for once? Asking this because as an Italian according to movie we are all either gangsters or restaurant owners, and I am not aware of any hero (if we a exclude a plumber who is a Japanese parody of an Italian).

[@Crimson28]

@@ROMANTIKILLER2 I don’t find it particularly important. I’m not looking for diversity in every single film project. While there are other Hispanic superheroes out there, they’re not being shown the live action treatment until this film. Only in DC animation are there more diverse characters being used. Blue Beetle was given a more prominent role in Young Justice, which is my favorite portrayal to date. Injustice 2 and the DC Animated Movie Universe versions were good as well. Seeing someone who looks like me shouldn’t matter in the long run but it does. That’s why Black Panther was a mega success and Miles Morales exposure has amped up since 2018 after the success of the Insomniac games and the Spider-Verse movies. Positive representation in major superhero adaptations go a long way. Peter Parker and Matt Murdock are my favorite characters and it has nothing to do with them being white. It has everything to do with both of them being guys I can relate to. Jaime Reyes is also someone I can relate to and it’s a nice bonus he looks more like me and other guys I grew up with.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

@@Crimson28 Got it. That makes sense, thanks for elaborating.

[@DrachonaTheWolf]

The main selling point: "It's about family. His whole family joins in the fight." Okay, so Shazam.

[@simonault100]

Fast and Furious*

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

Tbf, for Shazam it was more of a twist. And Blue Beetle's family helps even without powers.

[@DrachonaTheWolf]

@@matteomastrodomenico1231 It's still thematically the same.

[@EvilDoresh]

"How do you decide which pieces you keep and which you don't?" They're basically repeating one of the main issues with the NEW 52, their massive 2011 reboot of their comic book line - except you had book series like _Green Lantern_ which were barely affected by it, and most major past events _still_ happened but it's usually hard to tell _how_ because of the stuff they actually _did_ reboot. I'm pretty sure not even the _writers_ fully knew which past events where actually still canon (and to what extent).

[@xadalau9758]

I knew these cinematic superhero universes would eventually walk the same Path as the comics, with multiverses and reboots that Destroy the continuity.

[@EvilDoresh]

@@xadalau9758 TBF the DC cinematic universe never worked to begin with, since they always kept fiddling around out of panic and/or inability to have a clear vision.

[@xadalau9758]

@@EvilDoresh Of course I knew that the DCU was a shitshow to begin with, but rebooting and making tons of stand-alone movies Will only make their universe much less compelling than It already was. They are basically showing that continuity, in my view the backbone of a shared universe, doesn't matter and makes the new films seem unimportant.

[@Winterascent]

I can't believe not only how many of these movies they are making with minor characters, but how many of these characters exist in obscure comics.

[@autinjones7194]

far more than you can possibly imagine. I'd say maybe only 10% of all comic book characters that have ever been made are even remotely successful on even the smallest level. they could be making these movies for 100 years and still not run out of characters even if they never make another new one.

[@Ted_Bell]

Surprised they didn't edit the title to Brown Beetle

[@asantesamuel13]

Beetle of Color!

[@srb2591]

​@@asantesamuel13but if we call him colored beetle it's racist

[@asantesamuel13]

@@srb2591 Yes you're right, they're so different 😁

[@RichtorLazlo]

So this version of blue beetle no body wanted to begin with, although they could had used this as a great launching platform, there are 2 other. Beetles one from like the 60’s and one from the 90’s, so make a Indy type of adventure that take them 3 generations to solve, but still keep the legacy and the historical mystery.

[@bradleymarshall5489]

What's sad is I actually liked Blue Beetle growing up and they picked a great actor for him, but I just never saw any trailers until I went to the theatre the other week

[@TheBelegur]

Blue Beetle would make a good comedy relief support character, like any man, in a much bigger movie and then if the character is popular it would warrant making his own movie.

[@josephw.1463]

In the 1980s Justice League, if I remember, that's exactly the role he played.

[@scottbuckley823]

If they want a Latino superhero bring back ZORRO. It's setting in the past already separates it from other superhero movies.

[@Shockguey]

There's also tons of stories they haven't done with him yet. I read one where he fights vampires.

[@scottbuckley823]

@@Shockguey vampires.? So you can go supernatural and that separates it from the 90's Zorro,

[@arturzinurov2146]

Xolo Mariduena is a great actor he is proven as much in Cobra Kai its just unfortunate he chose to be in a superhero at the time when they are fading away

[@lupuswolf7700]

I knew the character existed, that he's Hispanic, and that he is very family oriented because I played a bit of Injustice 2 when that came out.

[@HYPOMANNUGGETSILLYMAN]

12:15 video saying nobody's heard of Blue Beetle bit. I'd say nobody outside comics heard of Iron Man before he launched the MCU either. Sure there was an Iron Man cartoon years ago, but no one constantly brings that up being a banger like Batman TAS or X-Men '90's cartoons.

[@davidguy209]

The way I see it, any and every character can be awesome with great writing (etc). Alan Moore proved it when he evolved Marvelman. Also, dismissing a less prominent character because it doesn't have a respected back catalogue is like dismissing playing a small country at sports. We climb mountains because they are there!

[@RustCole01]

A Jon Bernthal Punisher movie would be a guaranteed winner. Especially if they gave Thomas Jane a cool cameo appearance. But they absolutely could not water it down to PG13. Other than that, I can't imagine another hero movie getting any traction.

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Where are the blacks?no diversity

[@HerculesBallsInc]

As you say, good writing can make almost anything good. Bad writing can make almost anything bad. Having said that, however, there are probably some ideas that are more prone to success than others. Some ideas CANNOT be good unless they have a good writer behind them, while there are others than can probably scrape by with mediocre writers.

[@RustCole01]

@@HerculesBallsInc Like John Wick, for example. I love those movies, but if we r being honest, those scripts are not exactly on par with Goodfellas. But they are entertaining as hell and Keanu is an easy actor to like.

[@myWiggy]

Thumbs up for Drinker fixing the dogcam

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

I heard that that pooch is now retired, which is why he lies around all day. During his working life he would go on digs with human scientists and look for evidence of ancient canine/human interaction. He was the world's first barkaeologist.

[@TheCreepyLantern]

they're NEVER going to do this, 'cause WB is still staring at the mountain of money an interconected universe made Marvel. but honestly if i was in charge of DC's film divison i'd announce "fuck it. no movies are connected. The Batman was good. Joker was good. EVERY SINGLE MOVIE WE MAKE has to stand on its own merits and tell its own self contained story." lets the directors focus on their own thing more and not have to worry about sub plots about someone that'll matter to an other movie. reduces the amount of trying to rely on cameo's. Attracts more tallent. i'm CONVINCED there's plenty of directors that'd far rather do a solo movie then be bombarded with studio heads telling them what they can and can't do because of how it'll tie into a dozen other peoples scripts.

[@needlesandsonics5819]

Agreed. I like superhero movies that focus on the hero and not how they fit in to a connected universe. Like how they used to be. At this point I’d rather watch the original Superman and Batman. I’ll even say I enjoy “The Greatest American Hero” and “The Incredible Hulk” old tv series more than the content now. As in games, visuals only come second to content.

[@Shockguey]

WB is 50 BILLION dollars in debt. The only thing Barbie did was cover for the losses of their DC division. If they REALLY care about making money they're going to make a Ken movie. Everyone wants it, it wouldn't be hard to do. Just make a fish-out-of-water Western where he finally gets a horse and finds a blonde cowgirl he falls in love with.

[@RambleOn07]

​@@Shockgueywait you're suggesting that they should make a wholesome traditional romance with a white male lead? I think that's a hanging offense in California.

[@markwaldron8954]

If you want to see something closer to the original Blue Beetle before DC ruined the character, re-watch Watchmen (the movie, not the series) and look at Nite Owl. Alan Moore based him on Blue Beetle. BB is one of the characters that DC inherited in the 80s after buying out the old Charlton Comics. Moore wanted to explore those characters in a dark way, but DC nixed it, so he created Watchmen and based most of the characters on the Charlton characters (Captain Atom became Dr. Manhattan, The Question became Rorschach , Blue Beetle became Nite Owl, etc). Ironically Nite Owl from Watchmen is closer to the original Blue Beetle than whatever this reboot/retcon is. Blue Beetle was created by Steve Ditko in the 1960s, after the latter left Marvel in the wake of the controversy over who had actually created Spider-Man, himself or Stan Lee. The Charlton Blue Beetle was more Batman-like, a crime-fighting scientist with a hovercraft that looked like a giant beetle. Sad that DC has ruined what was originally a cool character.

[@w12266]

Black Adam Shazam 2 Flash All of them were flop. What was exactly Warner thinking with this movie?

[@V4Now]

Blue Beetle is a Legacy Hero, if they made a movie like The Phantom in Aesthetic with the first BB, maybe getting to this film eventually could have worked. In My Opinion, Blue Bettle doesn't work without Legacy.

[@Shockguey]

First Blue Beetle is in public domain, Ted Kord is the one people wanted. Jaime Reyes is just Miles Morales before Miles Morales, with the same "he's got more powers than the last character" syndrome.

[@V4Now]

@@Shockguey use the first Blue Beetle in a flashback and show off the Scarab, then have the rest of the movie with Ted Kord, the second movie with Booster Gold buddy comedy style. Kill Ted in another movie leading to and Omac movie. Then, have Jaime movie as a 3rd. But that's my crazy idea.

[@jeremyjohngraham]

It was woke-induced superhero fatigue. The genre didn’t die it was murdered

[@haku8135]

I resent the "fatigue" moniker. People aren't tired of Superheros, comics were all superheros all the time and they didn't just stop being popular for DECADES. People are tired of watching bad movies, and superhero movies are ONLY bad now.

[@jeremyjohngraham]

​@@haku8135 totally agree. Marvel could still be riding high in 2023 if not for the bafflingly bad movies, shows, agendas and decisions that began almost immediately after Endgame.

[@haku8135]

@@jeremyjohngraham Technically it BEGAN before Endgame, with Captain Marvel. Then Black Panther, and after Endgame they went all in on that. Now that Guardians 3 is wrapped up, the last sparks from the old MCU are going out. We're in the death throes of the MCU now.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

The way I see it, superheroes aren't a genre, they're an element. You could put a superhero into ANY kind of movie. And some of these haven't even been done on a large scale yet. Superhero horror. Superhero drama. Superhero romance. Superhero space exploration. Superhero post-apocalyptic. As such, it's not even POSSIBLE to have fatigue about it. It would be like claiming people had 'mountain fatigue' or 'American fatigue'.

[@daryltor7608]

Woke doesn’t mean anything at this point, it’s mindless buzzword used as weak criticism.

[@rexlumontad5644]

I am more interested in watching Power Rangers Once And Always than Blue Beetle.

[@newtpondskipper]

And that's with the loss of the Green Ranger.

[@killzoneisa]

@@newtpondskipper All so Thuy Trang.

[@bad-people6510]

Watch either of the Live action Guyver movies from the 90s. It's what this is ripping off anyway, and they're better.

[@sweetcyanidetea]

Blue Beetle was one of my favorite characters when I was reading JLA. And honestly, this movie seems like nobody ever read a fucking comic book regarding the character.

[@sweetcyanidetea]

I'm pretty sure you guys would love Ted Kord (the coolest Blue Beetle) and his adventures with Booster Gold in JLI (Justice League International) written by Keith Giffen and J.M. Dematteis. Those Comics were AWESOME! and I can guarantee that any DC fan knows who they are and especially who Ted Kord is. He was very freaking important in the universe. What happened in the INFINITE CRISIS saga with him was completely insane, especially if you were used to reading him in JLI. The integration of the character in the DC universe and all the implications it had was superb writing.

[@Skoora]

The fatigue isn’t about superhero movies. It’s about superhero formula fatigue. They just simply refuse to address the characters as their own entities with their own flavor. There’s an amazing richness to the worlds of DC and Marvel and they distill it down to the same LCD for general audience bullshit every time. They totally squander the amazing wealth of diversity (in storytelling/styles) that is available to them. It would actually give them real legs for continuing movies but in true Hollywood fashion, they’ll burn it out for a quick buck with no care for actual storytelling. FWIW to the guys in the video, yes we know who Blue Beetle is and a BB movie could be awesome….could be.

[@AwkworldStudios]

I feel bad for the lead actor Xolo Mariduena. I liked him in Kobra Kai and this could be a career killer

[@bad-people6510]

I feel sorry for the girl who plays Kamala Kahn in the MCU, she seems rather genuine. But they get saddled with these piss-poor token characters.

[@Nunya_Bidness_53]

Blue Beetle is an awesome character, whether they do it justice or not. The animated version on "Young Justice" was stellar. (BTW it's an alien techno-parasite that acts as body armor).

[@sorbabaric1]

Now your description sounds interesting. Why didn’t DC focus on that when making this movie ?

[@iambob6590]

The concept itself is interesting, but cliched. The 'marketing' push behind it however... is something to be reviled.

[@SpaceJawa]

Might have had a lot more interesting concept for the movie if they'd used a Young Justice-inspired take, played it like a more heroic and restrained version of Venom, the suit just wanting to use the most extreme solutions possible like the devil on the kid's shoulder.

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

​@@SpaceJawaYeah, the scarab isn't evil exactly, but it's amoral, wants to get results as quickly as possible and views overkill as an entirely legitimate means of doing so. Jaime essentially has to restrain the suit, since it is always ready to hand him a hand cannon for even the smallest issues. He has to display real self control to keep the suit from pushing him into using excessive force. That is a fine dynamic, that could absolutely be used for dramatic effect, along with the fact that the Scarab forcibly bonded with him and cannot be removed without killing him.

[@aurawolf664]

i dont know man im just tired of superhero movies using the super power as total plot armor from any and every challenge until the script requires some sort of sad or "ut oh!" moment. its played out, predictable and boring.

[@boldfacedred1023]

The fatigue is soooo real. I just want The Batman trilogy by Matt Reeves and then I want to be done. I want it not to be touched by Gunn, only left to Matt Reeves to do what he does. That movie was just so dark and perfect. Taking elements of Zodiac and Seven and was just the right tone making the Batman more grounded. Bringing him back to his roots at crime fighting/crime solving/etc.

[@remieres]

"Nobody knows blue beetle" I only know of him, from the Injustice 2 game. But then I hear that Jaime, is only the 3rd iteration. So I'm like, "He's kinda cool, I guess." Then I looked up blue beetle in the KZbin comic buffs. Like comicstorian and comics explained and Variant comics. To learn that, he has the potential to be an awesome character. Because in one comic story line. The beetle himself, has the power to either dominate worlds, or destroy worlds. Even in the Injustice 2 game, Batman reserves Blue Beetle, and Firestorm, as last resorts. Because they can both potentially destroy the Earth, if not kept in check. So, you find out. That in one of the comic story lines. Blue Beetle (the creature), was found to be in dereliction of his orders to take over or destroy the Earth, by his homeworld. I'm like. Um.... You don't get this, at all. From any T.V. show, nor Injustice 2.

[@HYPOMANNUGGETSILLYMAN]

I read they based some of the fight choreography in the movie on the fight moves from Injustice 2.

[@timothywilliams2916]

So the suit can make anything he imagines? Isn't that Green Lantern and his ring?

[@thecreationpack]

Not really think more marvel symbiote/green lantern/power ranger

[@KestraBeats]

This is why Zack Synder was important for DC to bad they took him for granted

[@darrenjones5885]

I’ve started watching Spy With Amnesia on streaming TV. It’s a reworking of the spy with amnesia plot. It’s given me an idea for a new Spy With Amnesia film, with a new twist and lots of The Message. The twist is he’s never been a spy. That the forgotten past as a spy was something his brain invented after being bummed senseless at a celebrity pool party but surviving. Work in XX-chromosome persons with cocks and the script would be irresistible to studio execs. The villains would all be straight white XY-chromosome people. Villain HQ would have biometric security. The arse-print reader that has a huge organ they had to back onto. No idea why straight XY-person HQ would have such a thing but I’m sure modern writers could fit it in. And work it into the plot. A straight XX trying to infiltrate hero HQ would be foiled by a biometric cock reader. That lot has got to be worth a couple of mill to Hollywoke.

[@hieug.rection1920]

Your letters confuse me. Just call them egg-producing people and rapists like normal people.

[@mamodokod]

Blue beetle is bad. The villain stops being a Villain because he realizes "OH IM ALSO LATINO, YOUVE REMINDED ME OF WHO I AM, I'm sorry I killed your dad" and it ends.

[@thecreationpack]

Tell me you didn’t watch the movie without telling me you didn’t watch the movie. If you didn’t like it that’s fine but it’s stupid to lie just to get some likes

[@JohnSmith-sb2fp]

Latino is literally a made up designation by the usa immigration department for people from Spanish speaking countries. Literally all " latinos have in common is they grew up speaking Spanish.

[@barthomero721]

No... Omac stopped being a villain because he realized who were the responsibles for killing his mom, he never apologized for killing his dad as he never did that. You really didn't watched the movie. And the main villain was the Kord woman. Lol just say you are racist.

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

@@barthomero721you are chucking the racist card and it means nothing. The system has infiltrated your mind. I pity you.

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

@@thecreationpackThat was basically how it was so he did not lie. One of the worst movies ever.

[@tjjordan4207]

To do Blue Bettle is such a weird choice to begin with. Out of all the properties to go with, I could easily name a bunch that would have been far better.

[@rustyshackelford4224]

Examples?!

[@tjjordan4207]

@@rustyshackelford4224 Ever heard of Supersons? I would do a film about that comic run (the earliest comics), which was about Jonathan Kent/Superboy (Clark and Lois's son) and Damian Wayne/Robin (Bruce and Talia's son) teaming up on their own adventures. That would be my Number 1 pick. But here's a list I would have done: - Batman Beyond (Terry McGinnis) - Teen Titans (not the sh!tty live-action series, I mean the real version) - Cassandra Cain/Batgirl - Dick Greyson/Nightwing (Seriously, how has this guy not had his own movie) - Kyle Rayner's Green Lantern - Starfire - Connor Kent/Superboy - Booster Gold - Lex Luthor (If the Joker can have his own origin villain story, then why not Lex) And of course, there's plenty of event comics that would make for great stand-alone films: - Blackest Night - DCeased (Come on, its superheroes fighting zombies, how is that not on the list) - Crisis on Infinite Earths - Infinite Crisis - Zero Hour - Darksied War - Convergence - Kingdom Come

[@FuzzWoof]

I know many comic-obsessed people who are deeply into their superheroes. I have never in my 47 years of life heard anyone even mention Blue Beetle.

[@Tential1]

Sounds like you're a 47 year old white male. And if you're not, you're a white supremacist but of a different race.

[@josephw.1463]

One of my comix-reading buddies lent me some 1980s Justice League once...Blue Beetle was the member with the most horrific background and the best sense of humor.

[@MyShiroyuki]

I only did when Batman The Brave and The Bold was airing.

[@RambleOn07]

I remember Kevin Smith mentioning him a few decades ago.

[@kanrakucheese]

New one was in Brave and the Bold and Young Justice. He was fine there, primarily since B&B used him as a newcomer viewpoint that contrasts Batman's experienced seen-it-all status.

[@Destino2493]

We Latinos already have an awesome super hero with his own movie: The Mask of Zorro. I swear to god if they tried to market blue beetle as the first Hispanic superhero movie I will flip my shit

[@Grubnar]

They already did. "Zorro isn't really a **superhero**!"

[@Destino2493]

@@Grubnar Zorro was an inspiration for Batman, dude fights evil using his sword and his wits he’s sly as a Fox (Zorro is Spanish for fox) has his own awesome lair, a secret identity, cool costume, if the argument some people use is that he doesn’t have superpowers then a lot of other “superheroes” don’t meet the criteria either

[@EvilDoresh]

@@Grubnar Zorro is a classic pulp hero and wouldn't really feel out of place as a Golden Age superhero.

[@Grubnar]

@@Destino2493 Why are you telling me this? Didn't you notice the quotation marks?

[@Destino2493]

@@Grubnar Yeah I know just saying why people who make that claim are wrong wasn’t directing it at you specifically

[@davidwilliam9681]

I'll make this very simple for James Gunn. If your movie does not include Henry Cavill as Superman, it's going to flop. People want Henry back and they resent you for treating Henry poorly.

[@bruhfvdf3145]

Nope, Cavill fans want Henry. I highly doubt general audiences care about any actor playing Superman. The superhero bubble has bursts, or more particularly, the marvel bubble. Nobody ever cared much for DC since Nolan

[@docsavage8640]

James Gunn is a one-trick pony. His films are all the same movie over and over again, and not especially well.

[@GiovanniAlckmimRusso]

By that logic Black Adam should have got a billion.

[@georgeh4171]

Cavill was very popular with audiences in Asia, especially in China. His was a megastar on the press tour for Mission Impossible! Big mistake dropping him

[@Chugargonfan]

Henry cavil was a not good Superman and I can’t see a way he could play a good Superman. Unless the reason his acting is so flat is the direction, he’s too stoic, and makes one of like three faces constantly. I do feel really bad how Hollywood treats him tho and would like to see him back if only to spite them. But he was awful as superman

[@GlitchManOmega]

The funny thing is, if they actually made a New Warriors movie (yes, THOSE New Warriors) and design it as a parody but play it completely straight, they'd make BANK. They'd get an astronomical amount of flack from the rainbow crowd once they realize the movie would be a reverse-Barbie situation, but it would be very well worth it.

[@juliorodriguez2694]

George Lopez saying Batman is a faschist with the camera zoomed in on him, I already know this movie wasn't made for me

[@fattiger6957]

Because apparently pissing on your crown jewel and the only DC character who still makes money is a good idea, isn't that right WB/DC?

[@31446963048]

Blue Beetle was a tongue in cheek super hero in the 60s. Over bravado, wacky villains. DC bought the original publishers in the 60s I think. In the 70s DC and Marvel used these lesser known heroes to pass them on to minorities and I think Blue Beetle was one of them so this latino track might be cannon. When borh companies did this it was always to a young man, single mom, bad environment, hes the good one. Very tropish. I havent seen the film but this might have worked 10 years ago when it would have been new and unique. Now it like all the other pro anything but white male material I pass over.

[@David8n]

Yes, I liked Blue Beetle in his old Charlton days.

[@namename9998]

What does being latino have to do with anything. There are chinese people who dont like stereotypical chinese food and prefer fried chicken, hot dogs, etc. There are italians who hate pizza and love tacos. Will Smiths kids look black but dont have the same experiences that black people raised in ghettos or 3rd world countries do. If it doesnt add to the plot then it doesnt need to be emphasized. They can still have latin heritage but its like the ads from 2022 "Although Hispanic Heritage Month doesn't begin until Sept. 15, DC Comics got an early start by revealing several special covers in its attempt to celebrate the upcoming month. The covers, which were revealed in June, feature several of DC's superheroes surrounded by, holding, or eating a variety of Latin American foods such as tacos, flan, tamales and platanos fritos. Comic book fans on Twitter, specifically Latino fans, aren't too happy with this interpretation of DC's heroes. Edgardo Miranda-Rodriguez, who is the creator of his own comic book series La Borinqueña and has collaborated with DC Comics in the past, told NPR that he believes these covers are "tasteless."

[@fattiger6957]

DC made Blue Beetle latino in 2005. He is the 3rd character to carry the mantle. The one who did have it in the 70s (and the one comic fans actually liked) is Ted Kord, a jokey everyman white dude.

[@David8n]

@@fattiger6957 Yep, Ted Kord is 'my Blue Beetle'.

[@31446963048]

@@namename9998 In the 1970s, there was a movement to give minorities representation within the comic book world. New characters were created and some of the older lesser characters were given to a new character, a passing of the torch. I kind of remember blue beetle being given to a ypung latino kid from the old guy who had been the blue beetle. The current movie the suit chooses the kid. Is he Italian? Did I miss something? I realize I might be responding to a bot. Does that answer your question? Do you not like latinos?

[@paulanderson771]

Aside from Cobra Kai superfans and the 10 people that like Blue Beetle comics, I don't know how anyone is supposed to be excited about this. It definitely never had a shot at being a 'superhero blockbuster'

[@Grubnar]

Cobra Kai was good because the people making it CARED and made a serious effort. This? Not so much!

[@trevorghalt1881]

He's been in Batman the Brave and the Bold, Justice League Action, Teen Titans animated movie and Young Justice. I fell in love with the character because of Batman the Brave and the Bold

[@Fwibos]

I knew it was happening, then forgot, then I was reminded, then forgot. And you reminded me and I almost forgot during this stream.

[@kentryu3484]

With Marvel dropping off this was the time for them to hold their nerve. Put out another Superman with Cavill. Marvels greatest strength for a long time was having a clear plan that all fit together.

[@Crunch_Buttsteak]

That woulda been a billion easy.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Blue Beetle is like Power Rangers and Kamen Rider had a baby.

[@TheKpa11]

Shazam seemed like that too

[@lalehiandeity1649]

The character or the movie?

[@anotherbig976]

Super Sentai

[@TheKpa11]

@@lalehiandeity1649 If you were talking to me. Then it’s the movie. Just having more than one Shazam and of course the icon of the thick lightning bolt, very mighty morphin

[@jimimcmahon4522]

Yes 😂

[@lance134679]

I wonder if people were having this conversation in the '70s when the western genre was dying. 🤔

[@kingcosworth2643]

Westerns didn't run for over 20 years as the main fixture and nothing but westerns. The problem with the superhero movies is that there is basically no other genre been made, certainly of any quality.

[@lance134679]

​@@kingcosworth2643 I guess it's not quite the same. Superhero movies being so dominant at the mega budget level should rightly cause some fatigue, especially for people that were only lukewarm on them to begin with. Still, I imagine executives at every TV studio collectively made the decision to stop green lighting western TV shows at some point, and that could eventually happen to DC and Marvel, both movies and shows.

[@BruizerBlue]

Westerns faded out with class and relatively quickly or at least not as much volume.

[@ad_gamer2099]

Anybody who knows blue beetle is because of batman and then they come and bash on batman, then you expect us to watch the movie nah mate it ain’t happening

[@MrVideoScape]

The ending face planted so hard. I was falling asleep. OH! And George Lopez barely got any laughs.

[@barthomero721]

Well, the movie is extremely good!, sadly it's true, the theater was empty, just 6 people for an imax showing, but it was pretty great.

[@bad-people6510]

At least Blue Beetle is original. At least it's not a rip off like so many other things. At least it's not like, for example, The Guyver, originally a manga property from the 1980s, which is about a young man who discovers an alien device that then integrates itself into his physiology, allowing him to transform into an alien/human hybrid superweapon that consists of a suit of blue insect carapace armor with an arsenals of transformable armaments, and drives him to commit uncharacteristic acts of violence, making him fear that he is becoming a danger to those around him. Whereas the Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle is a DC property from the 2000s that's about a young man who discovers an alien device that then integrates itself into his physiology, allowing him to transform into an alien/human hybrid superweapon that consists of a suit of blue insect carapace armor with an arsenals of transformable armaments, and drives him to commit uncharacteristic acts of violence, making him fear that he is becoming a danger to those around him. Yep, good thing it's just a standard follow up to the first two Blue Beetles and is far closer to those things that DC owns than anything they don't own.

[@emperorsean1]

But that's the problem with these KZbinrs they don't even know that. They think he's a rip-off of other characters like Spider-Man because they don't read comics. They did the same with Dr Fate just saying he's dcs version of Dr strange. Sure these youtubers just said it there they think he's just going to be a rip-off Spider-Man and he is going to be bitten by a radioactive blue beetle. They don't read comics.

[@bad-people6510]

@@emperorsean1Marvel Comics would not exist if they didn't steal shit from DC. I wanna tell you a story about a team of young super-powered people, who wear matching, two-tone uniforms, who strive to protect a world that fears and hates them under the tutelage of a wheelchair bound mentor. IT'S CALLED _THE DOOM PATROL_ AND IT CAME OUT SIX MONTHS BEFORE X-MEN #1! "Oh the Flash is doing a multiverse now?" Mofo, the Flash was establishing a superhero multiverse in DC when Marvel was still doing romance comics.

[@caseycockerham3925]

Why can't we get another Dark Knight quality movie?

[@vanessac1721]

Because good directors like Nolan would read these more recent scripts and then burn them and then shit on their agents for wasting their time.

[@Dark-Cinema-DoD]

I thought Blue Beatle was part of the Transformers universe. That's how much I care about this movie.

[@davidanderson_surrey_bc]

No, Blue Beatle is the guy who got dropped by the band just before they got famous. His alter ego is Stuart Sutcliffe.

[@Dark-Cinema-DoD]

@@davidanderson_surrey_bc ah, man, thx for making this clear. I was starting to go crazy over this whole thing.

[@BoomerZ.artist]

Camelot brought nothing to this conversation.

[@LittleMopeHead]

5:25 Agreed with CD and Camelot here. I had super heroes fatigue like 4-5 movies before Endgame, but had to see them to complete the series.

[@aussierob390]

Well, here in Australia comes out 4 weeks later, apparently because of our upcoming school holidays. So I'm wondering after 28days if It will already be on digital

[@whiskeyhound]

It's incredibly stupid to be following a release schedule that's about 20 years out of date, you'd think they'd want to capitalise on the buzz of it releasing in one country filtering out online to build sales in other countries with a simultaneous release.

[@aussierob390]

@whiskeyhound It was part of the reason the Australia had such a high piracy rate, telling people to wait 4-6week sometime more for arbitrary reasons. Hell Haunted Mansion is still almost 2 weeks away and it's doa in the states, only reason it won't already be streaming is they will leave it in limbo till Halloween week.

[@whiskeyhound]

@@aussierob390I'd be more annoyed if I actually gave a shit about this movie in particular, but since I don't, I'm just gonna laugh at it flopping multiple times because some genius decided to stagger the releases between countries.

[@whiskeyhound]

@@aussierob390Just looked up the release date of the film, DC's not completely run by idiots, the film should've been out here about 4 days ago, which means that it's our cinema chains that are complete idiots who don't want to make money.

[@Felipin7228]

As a latino myself, I'd actually prefer to watch a movie about Ted Kord's Blue Beetle.

[@caseycockerham3925]

Me too. Real BB. I like the new character but not a race swapped one for modernity

[@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854]

Igual.

[@Shockguey]

The problem with Jaime is they gave him Infinity War Iron Man level armor but he has to act like a bumbling moron otherwise all of the conflict makes no sense. Congratulations you literally HAVE TO write an unlikeable protagonist. The reason Generator Rex worked is because not only did he not have the luxury of armor (thus a glass cannon) you gave him more powerful enemies.

[@Shockguey]

@@caseycockerham3925 You're gonna get people saying otherwise despite him having all the generic tropes of Chicano characters. "OH LOOK, HE HAS A LUCHADOR MASK" Ted Kord is just a classic vigilante, but unlike Batman he doesn't have a luxury of expensive tech so he's McGuyver-ing his way through the criminal underworld. It makes him intelligent, likeable, resourceful right out of the gate without even establishing a villain or love interest.

[@caseycockerham3925]

@@Shockguey i used to like the tk from the 90s justice league

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

Big Bad Blue Beetleborgs.

[@rexlumontad5644]

Three Typical Average kids inside a haunted mansion Just by a chance freed a ghost who made them Beetleborgs Beetleborgs! Big Bad Beetleborgs Big Bad Beetleborgs! Hey look now they're superheroes with all these superpowers Cool! Taken from a comic strip and now they're Beetleborgs Beetleborgs!

[@thirdstrike4u]

Flabber is Jay Leno going through an identity crisis.

[@thirdstrike4u]

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[@SodapopKevin]

I know of Blue Beetle from the mid-2000s Justice League United cartoon. That and he's only really good when he's teamed up with Booster Gold (and it's competently written).

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

People like dont have superhero fatigue as much as we have Hollywood fatigue in general. At this point id rather watch old B kung fu movies. At least if they have a bad story & writing they do make me laugh. Hollywood is just so insufferable.

[@LeoJay]

Diversity: The Movie.

[@TheSamLowry]

Hilarious that "He's Latino!" is all the movie has to offer, when the Blue Beetle for 95% of his history was Ted Kord, who wasn't Latino at all. (BTW, Nite Owl in WATCHMEN was based on Blue Beetle, and neither of those guys were Hispanic, either.)

[@denizen53]

Kind of the Captain Marvel movies and comics "Carol Danvers - she's a woman, and she's got photon powers, and she deals with Kree shit." When the majority of the time, the title was about a man called Captain Marvel, who was Kree, when Carol in the comics got her powers as hand ma downs and those got stolen by Rogue.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

I assume you're talking about the original, not Dreiberg. Who was the "money and tech" side of Batman, and Roarschach was the "Ruthless pursuit of justice" side (hence why they were a team?)