Good Player Becomes THAT GUY

[@wargriz8213]

“You were the chosen one! You were supposed to destroy the problem players, not join them!”

[@tega8404]

"Brings balance to ttrpg! Not leave it in darkness!"

[@ryanrizzo4869]

That Player: :::Angry Eyes:::: "You underestimate my pow-er!!"

[@vexxama]

“Not creative enough” Vaguely says they broke some rule because they want a cookie cutter Jedi with robes

[@vegeta002]

If the Jedi punished you for not wearing robes, then half the Order would probably be on permanent probation.

[@erin-4464]

So often I find myself wondering why some of these people play multi player games when they don’t seem to like helping out the other player and just do rude/mean things to hinder everyone

[@nekoali2]

Sadly for some people their power fantasy is being able to be rude or violent to others without being punished for it. "It's what my character would do" is usually their defense of choice.

[@SupremeCommanderBaiser]

Validation and the need to show off that you are the big boss.

[@WildArmACF]

@@SupremeCommanderBaiser the answer to that is to remind them that there are bigger fish. ones who resulted from their actions. and are PISSED

[@unluckyone1655]

The edgelord antisocial murder hobo is unfortunately a favorite archetype for some people

[@PaladinGear15]

I've heard some DM's do the same with Wizard robes as in the Jedi robes story. Thankfully I've only ever had a DM make one or two offhanded comments about my character not being in "uniform" since I *rarely* dress my wizards in robes, my abjurer dressed like a nobleman (in order to make it look like he was just some rich guy with the other players as his security), and my lawful good necromancer dressed in a plague doctor's outfit, I'd googled "D&D Doctor" and most looked like plague doctors, so that's what I went with, I'd taken some healing abilities and the healer's feat since he was indeed a doctor in his backstory.

[@scruffyryan]

One of the longest running campaigns i was ever in, the NE necromancer dressed like a ranger and introduced himself as "Shaedlyn Faeradeth, friend of the forest"

[@PaladinGear15]

@@scruffyryan Haha, wow they went a step higher with that xD

[@scruffyryan]

@@PaladinGear15 Dude was a hoot, When we played a vampire game his malkavian (who are all supposed to have some sort of derangement) was basically alex jones like 20 years before alex jones was a thing, but believed the shit he said.

[@unluckyone1655]

I play as a cleric who was also a doctor by trade and is also a vampire. He wears plague doc get up to protect himself from the sun during the day, since the plague doctors robes were essentially the first closed up bio hazard suit

[@PaladinGear15]

@@unluckyone1655 Nice idea :p

[@starbird3939]

Story 3 Being a That Guy powergamer in a table full of newcomers makes me believe the dude is getting off on the power he has over OP and the players. There needs to be ONE conversation to knock it off, and then he is kicked. He cannot act like a murder hobo and then whine when no one likes him.

[@patjacksonpodium]

DM in the last story was so close to the right idea; that character choices, even in their background, should affect the story. He just completely face-planted on the landing.

[@ChaosCounseling]

You either die a hero or live long enough to become a that guy

[@Roninjedi66]

It's funny how The DM in the last story couldn't even give OP an suitable answer. Ironic. I feel like DM kicked OP because they couldn't come up with anything that made sense, so kicking OP and saying he wasn't creative enough was easier.

[@vortega472]

Oh Simba, what a cutiepie - And classic Lucky and his favorite string. Thanks kitty cats for the love and in return I liked the video. Thanks Doge!

[@valencrow]

About the first story. I was the same as the bad player a few years back. I was a good player and DM but then I had a major loss in my life. I kinda went insane and used D&D as the outlet for my abnormal behavior. It’s only years later with a lot of healing that I can look back and see how bad it was. What I’m saying is that if a good player went bad there might be very real causes.

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

First story: I have to wonder what changed with this guy. How does a player go from happily roleplaying and helping the new players to “The game is only about me and how powerful I am in combat!”? Did he get a personality transplant or something? Second story: I regret watching this while eating breakfast. Third story: I know OP will probably never read this, but if they ever do, my advice is to kick that guy. His bossiness and murderhoboing are actively detracting from the game, and communication didn’t work, so he needs to go. The game is going to be SO much better without him. Fourth story: Just invite this guy to watch all the Star Wars movies with you and point out every Jedi character not wearing robes. Ask him to show you the scene where they got punished for it. Petty? Yes, but this guy’s a jerk. Here’s hoping OP finds a good Star Wars game soon!

[@williamyates7679]

An experienced player with a bunch of noobs has a responsibility to play along with the railroad and help show them the essence of the game not just the freedom of choice

[@Xokoy]

I have a system for my campaign where I make it clear that if someone is uncomfortable with something or they're not able to make it or whatever else, they can DM me over Discord (which we play over) and I won't disclose anything really to the other players on the matter. I'll take the fall and blame for any such thing. It's actually a double whammy because since my players know that they can come to me with this, not only do they trust me more but also, when I make a call to not allow something dodgy, they can't know for sure if I'm the one who doesn't like it or if it's someone else who came to me privately. They seldom use that, we all have a high tolerance for dark themes, but they know that the option is there. In over 2 years we've run the campaign, they've used it to ban PvP and the player came forward the next session, beyond that, they only use that option when they're not going to be able to make it to a session or even just don't feel like playing that week. If enough people say that they can't or don't want to make it that week, the session is cancelled usually without much explanation.

[@BlueTressym]

That seems a good way of handling it.

[@solarchos4352]

Simba Super Closeup needs Halo music playing in the background for that true "Epic" feel. As for the Fireball buttplug focus...do NOT permit Beavis and Butthead to get a hold of it!

[@soultpp]

Thankfully Beavis and Butthead are not casters themselves to my knowledge, so the buttplug would be just a buttplug for them. Though if it's the latter one, it would still be a talking buttplug. Heh, heh, heh...

[@DnDDoge]

fire!

[@koboldking7153]

The robes thing with the star wars dm bothers me a lot, as well. How many times have we seen Obi-Wan and Anakin just toss their robes to the ground? The robes are probably ceremonially required, but definitely not full time

[@jakeand9020]

Sounds to me like GM was looking for an excuse to kick that player. Maybe there's some behavior from OP not included, or maybe the DM just accepted too many players expecting some to back out last minute, when that didn't happen instead of being an adult and explaining it, they decided to find some random reason. I've seen such things before.

[@koboldking7153]

@@jakeand9020 that's a a pretty good chance, and I would normally think that would be it, but I seen people get really bent out of shape about things in star wars that usually doesn't matter.

[@jakeand9020]

That first story sounds like that guy had an encounter with a bad GM and began treating all games like that one.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

A story involving a sentient, talking Buttplug is not something I expected to be listening to today...

[@77Zenin77]

Wellcome to the Jedi order. Here are your Jedi robes Thanks Just remember you don't have to wear them. It's just what we picked but if you feel like it you can wear something else Okay i want to wear something else Punishment time

[@4aw50fGold]

The Enticement is Real- And the Jedi Robes story.. Erks me. OP was correct, times garments can restrict certain movements during combat or escape. The DM couldn’t see the practical application… super sad.

[@Dualblades47]

That thumbnail made me laugh out loud!

[@sciverzero8197]

±5 on advantage/disadvantage is statistically identical to rolling twice, and its mentioned in the DMG.

[@ss3nm0dn4r8]

nope its actually better advantage/disadvantage is on average ±3.375

[@lamiahunter]

stop wishing for all my rolls to be nat 20s. Im the dm, my players keep dying. Please, you can only crit with a goblin so many times

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

I really like this video

[@CooperAATE]

Found Nipsy's account

[@TalkativeHands]

The last story is ridiculous. I can easily think of a bunch of Jedi that don't wear robes, hell they mostly ditch them in combat. Unless they mean the tunic.

[@jasongretencord3326]

0:30 I hear boss music.

[@NieroDraegon]

There are so many WTF??? Moments lol

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

Ah, the Tiberius archetype. A particularly irritating type of problem player. At least this one wasn't a sex pest.

[@jaronl.7500]

Story 1 thoughts: make a rule to never allow homebrew stuff unless made by you the DM with willing players and just stay away from UA if you are playing a long term game. Also, don’t let a character go 9 levels before ruling they they can’t do a RAW build, I feel the coffeelock block is a bad call on the DM as it can be done without stretching the rules and is an obvious outcome that can be recognized far earlier.

[@unluckyone1655]

Before I saw the "why that as your focus?" Story. I decided to guess what the focus was, and I thought it's probably a d*ldo. After the story, I realize I wasn't far off. Sigh, I have had friends like that player before and I can see them doing that

[@REfan2002]

Simba!

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Let's try this again since my not so dexterous cat unplugged the ethernet cord. Hello Simba. You look how I feel. Story 1: I see "that guy" is more of curse instead of a reflection of their mentality. Story 2: What? WHY?! The original was a lot longer (my comment before I was unplugged) but if you want to look into the occult, weird ass religion of the Hitlerites, look up TIK. He called national socialist workers party of Germany Hitlerites as KZbin demonetizes people who use that word. Story 3: Dude, why are you so aggressive? It's a friendly game. Hello Lucky; the lazy but still wants to play cat. Story 4: Yeah. Bullet dodged.

[@CallMeKes]

I had a character with a tattoo over her heart as her magical focus.

[@soultpp]

That has a very "magical girl" feel to me. I like it though and may one day "borrow" the idea. 😉

[@CallMeKes]

@@soultpp She was a Raven Queen Warlock in love with her patron but at peace with the idea that she would never be with the "person" she loved. Just happy to serve her. The tattoo was a raven in flight that took up her entire chest. And thank you.

[@soultpp]

@@CallMeKes I like it even more! That sounds very interesting! I love unique approaches to the Patron relationships for warlocks!

[@CallMeKes]

@@soultpp Thanks. She was a homebrew race as well but it sounds cringe without more detail so I'll leave it as just "homebrew"

[@roryscott2941]

Jedi: Wait that guy is wearing a scary mask and bionic iron lung. DM: He's a Dark Jedi he can wear whatever he wants. You're a Jedi, your uniform is lame robes. Except for Luke, he can wear whatever he wants.

[@reesescup69]

He does know only lock spell slots recover at a short rest anyway?

[@marybdrake1472]

Well, that story with the butt plug focus, yeah, I would have been gone really fast. I just can't tolerate that kind of junior high school mentality. As for the last story, when you project you do not deflect. it was GM who was uncreative all along. Also, he didn't seem to understand the lore too.

[@michaelleader633]

In some campaigns I've played he's underpowered. Although I have a character that can move damn fast in a homebrew cyberpunk/Shadowrun campaign, she can't beat a bullet, so if you can trace the blur, stay away from the groups fire, and get your own Jillettes to keep her distracted, you could effectively land a shot. 😆 Ironically, she's a kitten compared to some enemies in that game.

[@rynowatcher]

The star wars story feels like OP is leaving something out. The dm focusing on such a minor detail that has literally no mechanical impact seems out of place for the stakes of the argument, but I can see a dm kicking someone if they thought the player was trolling. Had a player in a modern game try to say their character just cosplayed as a drow every day of their life; context is key for these stories.

[@BlueTressym]

True but sadly, such pettiness is very believable. I reckon the robes weren't even the real issue though but the DM focused on that as something he thought he could use to either annoy the player into leaving or kick him for rather than talk about it like an adult if he had a legit issue. Stupid and juvenile but there are a lot of stupid and juvenile people

[@rynowatcher]

@@BlueTressym given how OP "well actually, jedi do not have a canonical dress code," I think it was more of the same for other issues and the dm was looking for an excuse. Not saying petty and irrational people do not exist, but if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck, I am going to call 🦆 seems just like the dm used it as an excuse after being "well actually" about their own game world.

[@super_manul1167]

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[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

Everything I behold is now mine so I say subscribe

[@Serbinderbintine]

Engagement

[@Inkubun]

NEW DOGE VIDEO WOOOO!!!!

New cheems video

[@soultpp]

May the Doge be with you, always. 🙂

[@gethriel]

I like the stories but the unrelated 3D game being played makes me nauseous. I'm fine with just text slides. Also love the cat schtick.

[@slagarcrue85]

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[@thekaiser3815]

Red wall was a good series of books, and a to tv serial, nice to meet you chicken hound.

[@slagarcrue85]

@@thekaiser3815 nice to meet you to Kaiser.

[@lyudmilapavlichenko7551]

I don't put sex into my game and I don't offer romance. My players have no problem with this. We focus on plot and being the heroes. Putting sex into games is a sure fire way make people uncomfortable, especially me.

[@SOGAUA]

Notification squad

[@Gyrogia]

Hot take, but the Jedi robes absolutely are a uniform, if an unspoken one. Not only are the Jedi an officially recognized order whose members enjoy certain privileges, but they're also a cult with an established dogma.

[@vegeta002]

Even unofficially, they don't really work as a uniform. They lack the signature feature of a uniform; uniformity. With many having their own appearance and the colours being the only common denominator, there's nothing about their outfit that identifies them as a Jedi. Hell, they don't even all wear robes, despite their outfits often being called "Jedi Robes". Another point against it being a uniform is the deliberately generic and simplistic design that makes it easy to blend into crowds whenever they want, which is the complete opposite of a uniform (which is meant to make you stand out). If there's anything about their appearance that could be considered "uniform", it's that they all carry a lightsaber (which is what usually gives their identity away, rather than their robes).