Doom But Something's Not Right - Episode 3: Inferno (Blind Ultra-Violence 100%)

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@engired564
@engired564 3 жыл бұрын
I allowed more detailed maps in this project because people always remember things looking more realistic than they actually are. It's like HD remasters, except this isn't a remaster.
@engired564
@engired564 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason E3 and E4 really like to be more detailed.
@dimes8130
@dimes8130 3 жыл бұрын
HD demaster
@doomerrasa8475
@doomerrasa8475 3 жыл бұрын
@Dremora I mean the only unified purpose of the project is to feel scuffed and weird. I personally feel like it accomplishes that, but I understand some people disagree.
@doomerrasa8475
@doomerrasa8475 3 жыл бұрын
@Dremora This is entirely my conjecture because clearly some of the actions made don't make sense if it's just "from memory" Like, literally no one "remembers" there being a cyberdemon in e1m7, not a single soul. Same for cacos and lost souls. Similarly, even basic sanity checks would have revealed the unopenable door in e2m4 and the fundamental lack of ammo in a few levels in episode 2. So I percieve this as as a project that started "from memory" but devolved to "let's just make cursed doom 1 lmao" But yeah to clarify "scuffed and weird" is entirely my theory that I pulled out of my ass.
@Shepardus
@Shepardus 3 жыл бұрын
@Dremora Doom 1 doesn't have any multiplayer-specific enemies.
@guysome7469
@guysome7469 3 жыл бұрын
Episode 1: Knee-deep in the damp Episode 2: The shorts of hell Episode 3: Heck Episode 4: Thy fish consumed
@mrlucas9072
@mrlucas9072 3 жыл бұрын
@Sians 5769 The Meister Stages No Sleep for the Alive
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 жыл бұрын
Episode 5: *Magical Symbol*
@hanselchan1232
@hanselchan1232 3 жыл бұрын
Why not add in other DOOM-engine games as well? Apostate (Heretic) Hepten (Hexen) Stride (Strife) Redstuff (Blood) Rice of the Tread (Rise of the Triad) Check Question (Chex Quest)
@fojisan2398
@fojisan2398 3 жыл бұрын
Episode 5: Vergil
@fojisan2398
@fojisan2398 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrlucas9072 The Uranium Project Dynamite Revolution
@ahandsomefridge
@ahandsomefridge 3 жыл бұрын
Decino: Allright, E3M2 Me: Ooh, I like that one Decino: This one is absolute garbage How typical.
@ademkapovskic8106
@ademkapovskic8106 3 жыл бұрын
lost soul go AAAAAAAAAAAAH
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 2 жыл бұрын
I know, I don't get why people dislike it either. The aesthetics and layout are great given it's a Hell level, not techbase.
@felynecomrade
@felynecomrade 2 жыл бұрын
Slough Of Despair? That level is a nightmare.
@johnballantyne3458
@johnballantyne3458 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I get why people don't like it but I think it's pretty cool.
@reloadpsi
@reloadpsi 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like that level, but I guess that's because the first FPS I properly got into was actually GoldenEye, which relied a fair bit on using cover and making enemies chase you around it.
@SiFi270
@SiFi270 3 жыл бұрын
I just checked, and 110 or more monsters is actually surprisingly common for OG Doom maps, at least on UV. E1M3 and E1M5 have 131. E1M6 has 177. E1M7 has 150. E2M5 has 112. E2M6 has 111. E3M4 has 140. But it is still a lot for E3M2, which originally had 44.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
Guess this is offset by E3M3 with its downright measly 22 monsters.
@Shepardus
@Shepardus 3 жыл бұрын
E1's enemy placements are pretty dense, probably because it's mostly hitscanners and imps.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 3 жыл бұрын
It feels weird to me that e3m2s count is so low, because I remember it feeling like there were enemies all over the little nooks and crannies and a big trap in the red key corridor. I also remember finding out it was actually not nearly so hard or full on later tries, but still, I get where the maker came from with larger numbers there.
@Krushak8888
@Krushak8888 3 жыл бұрын
@@FFKonoko yeah cause the map is so cramped and due to lack of ammo and back pack from e1m1 it feels hard/packed even with og map cause of it.
@ultrasupermegakek2932
@ultrasupermegakek2932 3 жыл бұрын
@@FFKonoko Don't forget that lost souls aren't counted as "monsters", there are 36 of them on UV on that map
@lexyeevee
@lexyeevee 3 жыл бұрын
re the increased enemy count - if these mappers played doom 1 when it came out, they probably remember it as being /much/ harder and more intimidating than it is for them today, so they naturally add more monsters when trying to replicate that
@keiyakins
@keiyakins 4 ай бұрын
Plus people likely only remember "some imps" or whatever, not numbers, so they just... put some in until it feels good. Now if only people took the same approach to ammo, haha
@Patashu
@Patashu 3 жыл бұрын
we should tell decino 'hey we made another of these, wanna try it out?' and just send the original doom wad and see how long it takes him to notice
@Opanker_
@Opanker_ 2 жыл бұрын
Would that even be legal
@felynecomrade
@felynecomrade 2 жыл бұрын
But halfway through The Shores Of Hell it just turns into the latter 15 maps of DOOM II.
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel Жыл бұрын
@@Opanker_three seconds?
@GreenScreenWho
@GreenScreenWho Ай бұрын
​@@felynecomrade then episode 3 and 4 are bothe the exact same couple of Plutonia levels
@swirlz100
@swirlz100 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Decino is very underrated in my opinion, and great video! (as usual)
@megalyth6322
@megalyth6322 3 жыл бұрын
He's rated very well, 135k subscribers is damn good for a Doom channel. We luv U uncle Ducino
@Jobby_James
@Jobby_James 3 жыл бұрын
I see that as a good thing, I never like overrated KZbin channels. Most of which come to mind either rarely upload (i.e few videos that are less than a minute long per month), upload content that quickly becomes repetitive or channels that don't upload anything that peeks my interest, despite the fact that most talk about them and KZbin actively recommends those videos to me. Even though decino mainly focuses on DOOM, I never seem to get tired of watching him and I think that might be because of the fact that he never acts, doesn't fake emotions or makes unnecessary jokes/edits in his videos. And he has a simple but yet effective intro for each of his videos. Plus, his videos are calm in nature.
@striker7793
@striker7793 3 жыл бұрын
The way he says Caco is funny
@amadeoflores_
@amadeoflores_ 3 жыл бұрын
duccino if you read this u are very pog
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine “Sigil The Way We Remember It”
@chain872005
@chain872005 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't played it yet. I wouldn't be a good judge of that. Seems like some of the map makers didn't play these levels either though sometimes lol
@makhauser42
@makhauser42 3 жыл бұрын
The whole episode is just eyes you need to shoot
@feliperojas-doomride
@feliperojas-doomride 3 жыл бұрын
@@makhauser42 that would be a fun project, to rebuild levels you haven't played just based on loose descriptions
@makhauser42
@makhauser42 3 жыл бұрын
@@feliperojas-doomride I personally bought it from Romero on one of the first days, but completed it once or twice, will never remember the thing (and I am not a mapper, too). Here should also come JR himself and say "Hi, hope you are doing well. To clarify, this is incorrect"
@ArDeThSuNjEkOl
@ArDeThSuNjEkOl 3 жыл бұрын
There would be *no* ammo lol
@Gabrulo_knifemaking
@Gabrulo_knifemaking 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like simpler maps are actually made from memory, while more complex maps doesn't look like are made from memory, they look just enhanced versions. I hope someone else do this project making all the maps from memory even if half of the rooms are missing, or also mixing rooms from other maps.
@generalesdeath5836
@generalesdeath5836 3 жыл бұрын
I found myself agreeing a lot. It seemed like a lot of the maps were by people who wanted to do “reimaginings” as opposed to actually making it how they remember. To me, e3m3 (map with the BFG and the 3 pillars) was one of the most genuine. It had almost everything about that map that stood out in my memory. It may have had fewer items or enemies and a number of differences but the most memorable ticks were there and I didn’t see anything at all that seemed blatantly made up.
@jorgebohyn
@jorgebohyn 3 жыл бұрын
So far I feel like the mapmakers haven't really played the original maps that often before...
@hegecactus8938
@hegecactus8938 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this wad would go lovely with this other wad called comfy doom that changes all the weapons slighty to make them just that tiny bit off like making chainguns muzzleflash desynched That would run anyone crazy
@shrek2onvhs849
@shrek2onvhs849 3 жыл бұрын
the other episodes felt like they were recreating the maps from memory, but this feels like they were recreating how it felt to play those maps. I kind of like that for inferno.
@SimBol1216
@SimBol1216 3 жыл бұрын
Decino didn't like Doom 2 upon replaying it Decino doesn't like Doom 1 And yet Decino is the biggest classic Doom channel. The irony. In all seriousness, they should take the maps from Doom 1 and port it to the Doom 2 engine, with the new monsters + SSG. That would be the best of both worlds, IMO.
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
In my defence, it's the custom levels I like. Not the stock ones.
@Moleoflands
@Moleoflands 3 жыл бұрын
@@decino imagine if OG Doom 2 was like sunlust. Somehow I don't think it would have the community it does today
@varun4929
@varun4929 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moleoflands having over 500 enemies in one map would probably crush any 94 pc
@Moleoflands
@Moleoflands 3 жыл бұрын
@@varun4929 ignoring that fact, I think the accessibility of Doom to even really bad players (Like 7 year old me) allowed it to be popular even today
@dmas7749
@dmas7749 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moleoflands yeah, even i can beat (most of) the game on HMP first FPS i beat ever
@stefankoopmans2200
@stefankoopmans2200 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but to think not every map is actually done from memory, some are, some look more like edited versions of the original. Too many details seem to be correct, as if they just messed with some vertexes and made some rooms bigger or they painstakingly played that map for days to remake it the day after. It's fun in one way but I also get kind of annoyed watching this. I did enjoy the E1M7 map, that felt legit messed up as the maker simply ran out of 'memory' and added IDK and wrong monsters etc. funny shit! Don't get me wrong though, I do really like your in-depth Doom video's!
@ahandsomefridge
@ahandsomefridge 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't like E1M7 either. Too many liberties are taken with some of the maps, I'm with grumpy Decino on this one (even though he thinks E3M2 is garbage). Although I have to admit the redesigned E3M2 hand does look cool (maybe awesome even), but it's not a 'from memory' design. Hmm.
@madcio
@madcio 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, certain levels from e1 look like mapper cheated. E1M7 is cursed, and not in good way. If mapper literally does not remember half ot his level at all then why he volunteered to make it? Also there is no justification for cyberdemon in this map. It should be blindingly obvious for anyone that played doom it should not be here. It is just for lulz.
@Scypek
@Scypek 3 жыл бұрын
@@madcio It's "the way we remember it", not "the way whoever's the most familiar with each map remembers it". I could've made a perfect recreation of E1M1 instead of tackling a map that's challenging to recreate (though I still totally nailed 90% of the layout, thank you very much) but there wouldn't be much point to that. Maybe all the dissatisfied people can band together and make an alternate version of this project, "Doom 1 the way smart people remember it". Throw out the overdetailed E1M6, the offensive E1M7 and the pretty E3M5, and replace them with something more faithful. I could do that myself but I'd rather watch paint dry.
@ahandsomefridge
@ahandsomefridge 3 жыл бұрын
​Maybe two versions would be nice. A '100% from memory' and a 'an impression of how the map felt for us' version, both with a clear description of the intention of the WAD. Personally I'm not smart enough to set it up though, sorry ;)
@onepureturtle
@onepureturtle 3 жыл бұрын
3:18 This is the main reason this project isn't all that good, mappers keep infusing the maps with their own spin on originals instead of sticking straight to the main goal. The project lead should have been a lot more careful and a lot more trigger happy with the editorial razor.
@chain872005
@chain872005 3 жыл бұрын
The best ones were in Episode 1. Probably because these guys only remember the shareware version the most.
@exiledPostman
@exiledPostman 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever decided to put a cyberdemon in episode 1 deserves a paddling.
@lanceFin85
@lanceFin85 3 жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct Kuba.
@genericwhitekidthesecond4330
@genericwhitekidthesecond4330 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe just call me a skeptic but I think it would have been too boring and unimportant if it was like that, but then again I don't think these "recreate from memory" contests or whatever are any interesting to begin with. Unless you haven't played in like 10 years or something who doesn't remember most of Doom inherently? Woah it's Doom but entirely vanilla and mostly as it should be but some rooms are kinda different. But eh that's just me. The secret level was the only one interesting here.
@ryansrandomvids
@ryansrandomvids 3 жыл бұрын
I agree as well. I by no means have anywhere of enough memory of these maps to even lay a single tile. But then again that's exactly why I never would be apart of this wad. Just editing and adding things to a map defeats the whole purpose. And if it wasn't Decino playing. I wouldn't of even finished watching E1.
@thewaver8
@thewaver8 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't marathon this shit kids, because Doom starts high and ends low" - Civvie
@raymond4592
@raymond4592 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like doom 2 does a better job of mixing bad maps with good ones instead of putting them in an order of great to ok to bad
@n3onkn1ght
@n3onkn1ght 3 жыл бұрын
@@raymond4592 Doom 2 was also sold commercially, meaning they didn't need to frontload the shareware episode with all the best stuff. They could spread the mediocrity around like marmalade.
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 3 жыл бұрын
"...I wonder when Sigil's coming out."
@mancubwwa
@mancubwwa 3 жыл бұрын
While I vigorously disagree with this, and find E3 better than E2 on avarage, there is no denying that, well, E1 is almost enteirly Romero, while E2 and E3 are pure Sandy and it shows. DOOM2 has somewhat similar problem, as it frontloads you with American McGee, and than it's back to Sandy, with ocasional Romero put in for good mesure. Now don't get me wrong, Sandy did make some good maps, but he also made all the really shitty ones too. The problem is, most of his maps are built around a gimmick. If said gimmick is good, you get fun maps like MAP08 or MAP23. if it is bad, you get E3M5. If it really, really sucks you get MAP24...
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 2 жыл бұрын
@@mancubwwa I think the issue is not necessarily that Sandy is a bad mapper; personally, I think his highlights are really memorable, just the guy had done so many maps on a tight deadline that he couldn't spend much time refining them. Given that he apparently got much of his experience from DnD, it made sense that some of his maps (particularly tricks and traps) played out interestingly. Just the guy did so much that it was a wonder that he produced as many decent maps as he did, and I mean that respectfully; the guy is an absolute legend for putting out that many maps. In particular, most E2 maps were meant to be E3 maps, which is why Inferno felt like a step down in difficulty. Really shows how choppy those games were in practice. But yeah, there's probably a big reason why I tend to mainly play the first 16 or so maps of any given megawad. XD
@leadendeath
@leadendeath 3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, they kept the torture room. That's good." -this whole wad could be considered one big torture room..
@chain872005
@chain872005 3 жыл бұрын
"There's a red door here, I'm an idiot." No, the dude who made the map is. lol
@TheSpacey52
@TheSpacey52 3 жыл бұрын
Hank Hill: "That level ain't right."
@Zirbones13
@Zirbones13 3 жыл бұрын
On the subject of the scale being off. Tomb Raider Anniversary has a developer commentary and on it I remember them talking about how they play tested the game with people who had played the original and one problem they kept encountering is that people remembered things as different sizes then they actually were. The example they gave were the waterfall in Lost Valley (the third level) and the T-rex in the same level. People consistently remembered them being much larger then they really were in the old game. Don't know if that's what's happening with the scale of these levels but I thought it was kinda neat.
@gustavobarrancos1233
@gustavobarrancos1233 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno for you folks, but i find it fascinating to see an engine and a set of 30-year-old maps being endlessly remixed and tinkered with up until today. If i was in Carmack/Romero shoes i'd be proud as #%$! to see fragments of code i've written in the early nineties not only being appreciated in plain 2021, but permutating into new forms :) Lovely run as always decino!
@n00f
@n00f 3 жыл бұрын
E3M1, created by someone who never played it.
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 жыл бұрын
“Doom, The Way We Imagined It”
@mulliganwizard9068
@mulliganwizard9068 3 жыл бұрын
I love the maps that make decino unsure about if he even remembers how the map actually is
@GeminionRay
@GeminionRay 3 жыл бұрын
47:12 That rocket jump was dope af. It took me like 10 tries to succeed with savescum and you got it done in one attempt lol.
@emerald4572
@emerald4572 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine, a Doom game, where you have to unlock Doomguy
@ArDeThSuNjEkOl
@ArDeThSuNjEkOl 3 жыл бұрын
So this was very interesting. Now yeah, having to recreate Inferno is also an unenviable task in itself and I can definitely see why they took certain liberties: bc most of the OG maps are boring. I can also plainly see how the authors' mindset deviated from "okay, lets just do a recreation" to "but what if we changed this instead". I agree that it defies the overall spirit of the whole project.... *but* I'm actually kind of glad I got to see what they did anyway, you get to see their suggestions used in practice, if implemented loosely.
@himynameisben95
@himynameisben95 3 жыл бұрын
Decino seconds after checking the automap: I don't want to check the automap yet
@The73rdSecret
@The73rdSecret 3 жыл бұрын
Here we go again! Can't wait for episode 4
@reptongeek
@reptongeek 3 жыл бұрын
Neither can I actually. If only to learn if E4M3 Sever The Wicked still has 22 secrets! (No spoilers please!)
@Crateron1
@Crateron1 3 жыл бұрын
48:31 "Oh this is so cursed! OMG This is...episode 1 all over again!" Close, but still doesn't beat E1M7. I still laugh when I remember that map.
@diddlenfiddle7311
@diddlenfiddle7311 2 жыл бұрын
I think something to consider here is it's one thing recreating 1 room but trying to do an entire level will have room looking off as if it's connecting rooms aren't in the right place, it'll affect that. Like if you was to draw a face from memory, getting the chin wrong would result in the mouth being wrong for example.
@TheBrutalDoomer
@TheBrutalDoomer 3 жыл бұрын
DOOT but some things aren't right Episode 3: In for an hour
@chain872005
@chain872005 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever did E3M1 has a horrible memory. lol
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 3 жыл бұрын
Truthfully, DooM's first episode is terrific. Shores of Hell and Inferno are..... middling at best. DooM II is consistently better, and Plutonia is how most of us actually remember DooM.
@Final-Ts
@Final-Ts 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that all of those are better. However, for ME... I remember DooM more via the 1st version. I'm old though. I liked the music of the original more as well. However, I think your opinion is very well deserved and true for many people for many reasons. You're factually correct. *Also, I have to laugh now about how people were so distraught about the bruiser bros in E1M8, at the time... but now we have maps like Sunlust where there are 100 Barons in one room with 10 Arch-Viles and everything else! Haha! A lot has changed, and, for the better imo. :D
@mrlucas9072
@mrlucas9072 3 жыл бұрын
I find DOOM 1 Episode 1 to be consistently great. Episode 2 is less constant but has its highs in the form of Deimos Anomaly, Containment Area, Deimos Lab and Halls of the Damned. Episode 3 is consistently... not good, with it having no stand out maps and containing my 2 least favourite maps, Unholy Cathedral and Limbo. Episode 4 is pretty good on average but doesn't have the highs of Episode 1 or 2. DOOM 2 is consistently meh, with only two really great maps, Tricks and Traps and the Living End. As for its worse side, theres the boring Gantlet, Waste Tunnels and Factory, the overly ambitious Downtown, the absolute atrocity of Nirvana and a final boss somehow even more disappointing than the spider mastermind. Master Levels only has Paradox, Bloodsea Keep, Black Tower, and the Dr Sleep maps that can be called good. The rest are okay at best and mind-numbing at worse. TNT is my favourite Megawad despite its uneven quality. It has some of DOOM's best like Wormhole, Prison, Pharaoh as well as underrated gems like Metal, Steel Works, Deepest Reaches, Shipping/Respawning, Central Processing and the overly-hated Mount Pain. Still, Habitat and Baron's Den are awful and other maps make some odd choices and gimmicks. Plutonia is generally great, with Well of Souls, Impossible Mission and Bunker standing as the exceptions.
@stefankoopmans2200
@stefankoopmans2200 3 жыл бұрын
For me it's just Doom 1 Episode 1, mainly because I played the shareware version a lot back when it first appeared on BBS. I have fond memories of being 11 years old and rushing home on my bike on lunch break to play though the entire episode 1. I always finished right on time to make it back to school. I did that every day for a year or so lol :) With the full version I did enjoy the extra weapons and demonic levels though, I guess I didn't really mind the somewhat inconsistent level designs. Nowadays I really see how good episode one actually is. Doom II was a mess though, the first levels are ok and somewhat consistent, after lever 8 or so everything turns into a mess.
@CZpersi
@CZpersi 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrlucas9072 Tricks and Traps is perhaps my most favorite Doom map. Possibly because it allows different strategies, uses some very clever ideas, offers great rewards for exploration, does not take itself too seriously and is not shy of outright trolling the player. Do you happen to know about some third-party map (iWad) that would be comparable in quality and style to Tricks and Traps?
@mrlucas9072
@mrlucas9072 3 жыл бұрын
@@CZpersi Unfortunately no, there's no WAD that retains a style like tricks and traps, I suppose the map is cool partially because of how unique it is. The closest thing I can think of would probably have to be JAPANESE COMMUNITY PROJECT (JPCP) which has some very interesting maps that use their gimmicks to its benefit, including one that is a direct homage to Tricks and Traps. DOOM ZERO also has a great homage to Tricks and Traps in its 8th map which makes it so every room is a room from a different classic DOOM level, ranging from Hangar to Computer Station to Underhalls and much more.
@serhiy-serhiiv
@serhiy-serhiiv 3 жыл бұрын
*Thy flesh consumed awaits you...*
@WratchetDeth10mm
@WratchetDeth10mm 3 жыл бұрын
New drinking game - You have to take a shot every time Decino says "cursed". Nobody will survive.
@SoundlessMound
@SoundlessMound 3 жыл бұрын
Mt Pain is the right name for that map. The deadly Caco-Cloud has come to claim your soul!
@exiledPostman
@exiledPostman 3 жыл бұрын
Mt. Erebus looks really accurate, but the invisible wall bug ruins it
@comfortable.and.furious
@comfortable.and.furious 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, looking forward to seeing E4M1 and E4M2
@tomasrivero6423
@tomasrivero6423 3 жыл бұрын
19:14 imagine dying a horrible death, being such a heavy sinner, becoming a literal demon as punishment and you end up getting caught in a candle thingy while the doomguy reams you
@Xeotroid
@Xeotroid 3 жыл бұрын
E3M9 looks like an authentic 1994 PWAD.
@krazyfinndude666
@krazyfinndude666 3 жыл бұрын
Im surprised how they made E3M5 even more cursed than it already was
@CamDeElite
@CamDeElite 3 жыл бұрын
>Complains for half of E3M7 that there is no rocket launcher. >Picks it up at 53:56 and has it out for a good few seconds I think this project is really interesting - I think you're right though in that not everyone held to the spirit of the project. Whether that makes for a better playing experience... Well, it seems like a pretty fun map set so far.
@Nosore
@Nosore 3 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying watching this and your old -UV Fast playthrough side-by-side to see the comparison.
@matteoinvernizzi2765
@matteoinvernizzi2765 3 жыл бұрын
27:29 E3M5: there is no ammo, i'm sorry 🤷‍♂️ Decino: I've played mucus flow, i can deal with this 👊 E3M5: 😐
@yesimforreal8655
@yesimforreal8655 3 жыл бұрын
I hope there's a Doom 2 version
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 3 жыл бұрын
It’s being worked on as we speak.
@JobboFett
@JobboFett 3 жыл бұрын
When chainsawing pinkies, just tap backwards slowly. You'll never get hit by the pinkies because you're constantly getting out of their range, whereas the chainsaw pulls you back in.
@pbjandahighfive
@pbjandahighfive 3 жыл бұрын
You'd probably have a better experience with the chainsaw if you did small steps back it while fighting Pinky's. It keeps you out of range of their bite while doing continuous damage. I mean, obviously the chainsaw sucks, but it can be okay against Pinky's when you don't have anything else so long as you walk slowly backward while using it.
@ToxikDeth
@ToxikDeth 3 жыл бұрын
0:20 that door is cursed, it just disappears into nothingness.
@williamsmith666
@williamsmith666 3 жыл бұрын
I'm officially dead, thank you decino. Now if they managed to do Thy Flesh Consumed...
@proxy1035
@proxy1035 3 жыл бұрын
there was some weird stuff going on in E3M6 with the weapons not aiming correctly. there are a lot of pretty small engine bugs like that, none large enough to have their own video like the all-ghosts-glitch. so i wonder if someday in the fture there is gonna be a sort of compilatiuon of a lot of those smaller bugs explained in a single large video
@goddesscarrie767
@goddesscarrie767 3 жыл бұрын
24:04 you have to walk backwards slightly while using the chainsaw making sure to hit it at the end of its range, taking many steps back. trust me decino!!! you can kill many things with it this way!!!!💕💕💕💕
@dariusfadavi7188
@dariusfadavi7188 3 жыл бұрын
Y ducino hate Slough of Despair? I think it's charming as heck
@stephenhowe4107
@stephenhowe4107 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a look at some diagrams comparing original map with recalled map - and in most cases, the original maps were more compact. I personally think they were more well designed.
@jamesgillum9604
@jamesgillum9604 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't know what this switch does, probably something good..." * turns around to a monster closet full of demonic spaghetti and meatballs * "...oh no, not at all"
@MobileGamingChronicles
@MobileGamingChronicles 3 жыл бұрын
Lol those pinkies in E3M5 in the room with the Berserk Pack were being trolls, getting on top of the Berserk Pack as soon as you go for it and trying to pin you against the walls.
@alexhunter9105
@alexhunter9105 3 жыл бұрын
Some of these maps have textures and item placements way too accurate to than what they should be. It almost seems as if some creators, either had a reference while creating the maps or they only intentionally "screwed up" certain parts of the map to make the "from memory" stipulation plausible. Ive played each of these level at least 40 times and I can remember general layouts and secrets but textures and object placement i so much more of a minute detail. Yet I find in most of these levels, the textures, torch placements and such are like perfect but they "forget" 1 of the 2 only secrets in the map. Its just sketchy. That and the creative freedom they were given just ruins the spirit of the project. I think each creator should've been able to study the map beforehand but once the actual creating process began, they must only go off of memory.
@goebelmasse
@goebelmasse 3 жыл бұрын
I played E3 today too, and E3M2 was very enjoyable, the best map in the WAD so far. Not half as skilled as decino, I fell down to 2% health, and I found the armor after completion too. But this map was never a reconstruction from memory, it is a kind of enhancement over the original E3M2. It's a good one, but-as E1M7-not the thing I want to see in a »Ultimate Mandela Doom« project.
@Spectere
@Spectere 3 жыл бұрын
If you think that the mappers are taking some artistic license now, just wait until you get to episode 4. o.o
@AmmoCat
@AmmoCat 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I check the playlist of new wad there are alway a hidden video (I think it's for Patreon). It's just make me more hyped more vid coming.
@decino
@decino 3 жыл бұрын
No, I just pre-record a bunch of videos and schedule them. Patreons don't get to see these unless either it's an analysis video.
@mercuryCS
@mercuryCS 3 жыл бұрын
Just got back from a camp will have a lot of videos to watch!
@awselig8016
@awselig8016 3 жыл бұрын
new drinking game: take a shot every time he says 'cursed' rip liver LOL
@maximyllion
@maximyllion Жыл бұрын
"DOOM I but cursed" and "DOOM I reacreated from memory" should be two entirely different megawads
@Brutal_Dude_Man
@Brutal_Dude_Man Жыл бұрын
I love that you shotgun start every map. I just couldnt do it 😂
@Hayden49
@Hayden49 3 жыл бұрын
Oh woah randomly refreshed the page and new decino video yes
@MobileGamingChronicles
@MobileGamingChronicles 3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Decino says "this is cursed!" Lol.
@Tyrian3k
@Tyrian3k 3 жыл бұрын
I am a tad amused that you found the rocket launcher about 50 seconds into E3M7 and even fired the two rockets it came with, but then completely forgot about it somehow.
@H3llKeeper1
@H3llKeeper1 3 жыл бұрын
Episode 4 gonna be nightmare. Prey that they forgot about 9 health bonuses lol
@chaosvolt
@chaosvolt 3 жыл бұрын
Also, that take on Mt. Erebus has Big Meatball Energy.
@simonkempthorne3681
@simonkempthorne3681 3 жыл бұрын
decino: “cursed” Weird hitscan collision bug: Allow me to introduce myself
@Kingdramana
@Kingdramana 3 жыл бұрын
I went back to watch your old records of the original, to really get the curse feeling. I for sure have to do it for Episode 4, since I barely remember the first map and that's it.
@JeanMarceaux
@JeanMarceaux 3 жыл бұрын
E3M2 should have just been a straight up copy of Slough for shits and giggles
@subnormality.
@subnormality. 2 жыл бұрын
I never tidy up and my apartment floor has started doing 20 dmg
@TVdinnermasterchef
@TVdinnermasterchef 3 жыл бұрын
Another solid playthrough. Personally, the idea went pit the window on some maps, bit the very slaughtery ones seemed a lot more interesting than I remember them being as a kid. You seem to have a Doom-dependent eidetic memory; I swear you noticed that the wall texture was off in a specific room in one of the episode 2 maps, and you seem to pick up on every instance of the sky being visible where it shouldnt be. Personally, you could give me these maps, tell me they were the OG maps and I wouldn't have a bloody clue they'd been changed.
@exiledPostman
@exiledPostman 3 жыл бұрын
Slough of despair: Sandy Peterson wanted to make a map shaped like a hand, and he did, and it's lost souls baby!
@THEGRUMPTRUCK
@THEGRUMPTRUCK 3 жыл бұрын
The teleport room with the berserk and pinkies you are correct. They are asleep when you teleport in. Also I think on UV there's four or six of them.
@EMdemo
@EMdemo 3 жыл бұрын
@50:24 "should be almost dead" *wall rockets for good measure*
@mishtimou2705
@mishtimou2705 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed when you said "Time to go pew pew pew". 🤣
@josanikik
@josanikik 3 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see a video of yours on the bug seen in Mt. Erebus!
@shirohimayumikira234
@shirohimayumikira234 3 жыл бұрын
Time for some more cursed maps!
@EclipsianVanadis
@EclipsianVanadis 2 жыл бұрын
In defense of the map makers, it is probably because they have played a ton of maps that may have been recreations/remakes of classic maps, and those memories have bled into their memories of the original Doom. Memories be weird that way.
@RatoCavernaBR
@RatoCavernaBR 3 жыл бұрын
decino says: This is a 20 damage floor. decino steps over and lost only 5 Also decino: No it's a 10 damage floor. Me: Confuse unga bunga
@n3onkn1ght
@n3onkn1ght 3 жыл бұрын
Damage is split between health and armor.
@ShinoSarna
@ShinoSarna 3 жыл бұрын
24:10 For those interested: Chainsawing cacos works because chainsaw and chaingun have identical rate of fire, so they're theoretically exactly as effective in stunlocking them. It's minimally more dangerous because if you're in melee attack and pain state fails, you will take damage immediately, while if you're further away and using a chaingun, caco will simply shoot a single easily dodgable fireball. Also as shown here, if caco moves away you need to react quickly by moving, instead of simply adjusting your aim.
@HarhaMedia
@HarhaMedia 3 жыл бұрын
This is kind of like inspecting someone's dream after they played too much doom 1. Very interesting, only thing missing is that they'd also be required to draw the textures out of their memory. But that's a bit too much work eh...
@lhfirex
@lhfirex 3 жыл бұрын
decino But Something's Not Right - Episode 3: ducino
@WSADKO
@WSADKO 3 жыл бұрын
i wonder how can you frick up e3m1... ah yes - e3m9
@Ben_of_Langley
@Ben_of_Langley 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree that it goes against the idea of the project if they aren't just going by memory but I would think that they probably got to this point and was like rather than just going by memory you can have some freedom in adding stuff as long as it doesn't go completely off what the original maps were like. I do have some mixed thoughts about this like some maps do seem good and better I think it's just the size of some of rooms that's putting me off and as it's meant to be a recreation of the original from memory those added bits which looks like they just wanted to make it look cooler I dunno I can't think of the right words to use at the moment to really get across what I mean I don't want to sound like I'm just picking fault with it because I couldn't do this making all of these from memory so it is good just I don't know there's something not right with it lol so I guess it really works lol. Cheers for the upload decino
@Ben_of_Langley
@Ben_of_Langley 3 жыл бұрын
You know what I think it is doom was the first game I actually played myself as a kid and it started my love for fps games and doom in general has played a big part in my life and got me through some really hard times even to this day so I have very strong feelings about it and its like when a band covers one of your favourite songs and they don't quite do it right or at least the way you think it should be done I think that's why I have mixed feelings about this in all honesty
@Bozzyshy
@Bozzyshy 3 жыл бұрын
I also have never seen that bullet hits in the air bug, laughed quite a bit at those rockets ignoring the caco not gonna lie :p
@robertsneddon731
@robertsneddon731 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that autoaim was picking up on something way off in the distance, maybe a wall texture as the result of a large-map block bug of some kind so the caco wasn't the rockets first choice of holiday destination.
@juand.g.2602
@juand.g.2602 3 жыл бұрын
This is really easy to remember. At least for me, the secrets, weapon locations, powerups, everything, considering the secret map is also like a remake
@thom_wye
@thom_wye 3 жыл бұрын
44:06 I smell a new "yellow" video coming soon )
@BorisAnatolievich
@BorisAnatolievich 3 жыл бұрын
Those e3m7 teleports here look like countryside toilets :D
@projectD1S
@projectD1S 3 жыл бұрын
They should've tried recreating the music as well, just to add a little more "something isn't right here"-ness
@lecoindugamer7644
@lecoindugamer7644 7 ай бұрын
I swear i remembered the monster count of almost all doom 1 maps but pandemonium with 22 monsters come on
@RDR1Dutch0003
@RDR1Dutch0003 3 жыл бұрын
They nailed pandemonium till the blue door.
@thecorbeauxking7342
@thecorbeauxking7342 3 жыл бұрын
"E3M1 is one of the worst Doom maps." HEY I like E3M1!
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 3 жыл бұрын
Another man's treasure...
@thecurliest_fry
@thecurliest_fry 2 жыл бұрын
Something about "It's 1AM and I'm here playing someone's recreation of the worst Doom 1 map" struck me as hilarious.
@amadeoflores_
@amadeoflores_ 3 жыл бұрын
something DEFINITELY is not right
@andrewlewis826
@andrewlewis826 2 жыл бұрын
36:34 heh nice voice crack
@anew742
@anew742 3 жыл бұрын
7:16 Hell Revealed moment 😳
@terrytrollface
@terrytrollface 3 жыл бұрын
E3m6 was my personal favorite.
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