Has Star Wars Lost Its Way?

[@SATANICCOW]

This is what Noach Hate died for. It’s beautiful.

[@connormarchand6302]

Noach hate?

[@flamingbanana5831]

noach hate may he forever rest in piss

[@bustedinsevenseconds1678]

A poorly performing video about an overdone topic?

[@Doofwarrior88]

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. I simply just don't care about star wars like I used too. I no longer feel like it's for me.

[@callmeej8399]

Same Boba Fett was when I realized I truly didn’t care anymore

[@Belangerz]

After Andor season 2, I doubt we’ll get a good Star Wars show/film. Filoni has got to go.

[@ZayTh3God]

Exactly tired of filoni glazers like swt when he made just the ip worse with destroying all continuity even if u do disregard the eu all he does it makes the universe smaller

[@donaldjgumpofficial5754]

With how Arcane S2 went, I wouldn't be shocked if Andor is also a stinker.

[@emilianomartorell3587]

After the sequels, Disney's second greatest mistake with Star Wars was handing the reins (mostly) to Dave Filoni. While some hail him as a savior of the franchise, his approach often feels more like fan service dressed up as storytelling, doubling down on lore at the expense of depth. The more shows and movies they hand this man, the more he dilutes the franchise. It is sad that what was once the most iconic and popular franchise in the world has been reduced (on-screen) to the whims of a third-rate fan fiction writer. How did we fall from a richly woven, multifaceted universe to a hollow shell where the canon is dominated by one man’s self-indulgent drivel? I’m just sick of him ruining other people’s characters to prop up his OCs. The franchise definitely deserves far better than being held hostage by Filoni who clearly doesn’t understand its legacy.

[@lord_egg]

Filoni is also really egotistical. I know lots of people don't care about the canon but it's something that I do, and it's really sad to see Filoni constantly retcon and change other people's stories. Then make his characters integral to the continuation of Star Wars, only for those characters to be pale imitations of their past selves. (* Cough cough * Ahsoka should have been killed by Vader. * Cough cough *)

[@barkley8285]

TL;DR: -George lucas went insane in the 90s and cobbled out mediocre prequels -SW fans believed they knew best and accept fanservice or nothing at all -Disney buys SW for 4.5 billion, rushes things out and botches sequels -Modern day SW is a bloated, mediocre filled mess with no direction, no plan, and no purpose

[@wywrd_mtnt]

it's kinda crazy how star wars at this time is basically just a lifeless corpse they keep parading around in the disney investors meetings...such a shame too but I've grown too apathetic to care about their projects, now I only care to hear about their latest fuck-ups cause that's the more entertaining story every time

[@Toshiro93]

KK: "To say that Star Wars has lost direction under our direction is pure blasph-" Paul Atreides (an alternate universe away): "S-I-L-E-N-C-E"

[@luckykennedy7364]

Minor correction: The Acolyte cost 260 million. Still can't believe they wasted that much money on some of the worst TV this decade lmao!

[@noachlive]

Oh my god, that's even worse

[@Avarn388]

@luckykennedy7364 It’s even worse when you consider the series cost even more because UK tax filing showcases the actual costs spending. Hollywood studios love using the UK for tax breaks which they do in exchange for utilizing UK labor behind the scenes and that they must disclose that information publicly. It’s hard to decipher( the law doesn’t stipulate how it’s presented) but if you go through it; it reveals a very big, sad picture. And the thing is that the budget is bad but the misuse of the money is even worse.

[@ZayTh3God]

Thank god that it was cancelled

[@eliminator1472]

I read somewhere that the budget was actually around 300 mil

[@StephenLeGresley]

My friend, you really know how to write an essay. Clear, to the point and well supported. Nicely done!

[@friendlyreaper9012]

It's completely lost everything that made it special. The character writing from the OT and and world building from the prequels haven't been matched yet. All they are doing ever since the mandalorian season 1 is just making characters constantly meet other characters from the universe and making it seem smaller. They keep reusing old concepts (order 66 in almost every show) while adding nothing new and memorable. And if they would just call it a kid franchise (which it originally was), it still wouldn't be a good excuse since you have numbers of kids shows/cartoons that adults can enjoy, for example older disney and DreamWorks movies.

[@SheevTalks]

44 views in 10 minutes bro fell off

[@ZayTh3God]

My glorious king

[@felipesalvatierra805]

Because your AOTC video overshadows everything

[@WillieHoule]

Yup... Undead is a good metaphore for Star Wars, its like watching your best friend from childhood slowly getting addicted to drug, you try to tell him to stop but he says everything is fine and then 10 years later hes looking like a zombie asking you for money. Im done giving that franchise a chance, they need to fix their s**t and fast

[@kasaibouF29]

Good that you recognize Avatar's clear vision!

[@connormarchand6302]

Do I hate Disney? No, Do I hate the people they let in charge? Kinda

[@Toshiro93]

@@connormarchand6302 The paradoxical thing is that, technically, the people in charge at Lucasfilm have worked for decades with the Hollywood elite: you can appreciate Lucas (or Spielberg) or not appreciate him, but it is undeniable that as a director and creator of worlds he has left his mark on the cinematographic landscape (and not only). Even just by osmosis, those who worked closely with it should have learned how to narrate Star Wars and what to narrate. perhaps more than hatred, we can speak of disappointment, because there have been many missed opportunities from 2015 onwards and many were served on a silver platter, it would have been enough to let the sequel trilogy settle and think carefully about the direction to follow.. .to think that they didn't plan three films from the beginning is something absurd and incomprehensible.

[@Bigbounty1]

My Patience has paid off after all

[@bloodysimile4893]

Ah, yes, attacking "grifters" by attacking who they are rather breaking down their criticism.

[@TheRelaxingRide]

the biggest problem i've seen unpacked is that these kind of shows are designed to play on a second screen, in the background, like wallpaper whilst the viewer multitasks on their phone. from that perspective, it all makes a lot more sense why these shows are structured like they are.

[@Ididtherightthing]

Looks like Christmas came early this year 😊

[@skinnyj123]

I'm glad that dave filoni is getting more hate recently as he is good at making characters but he is terrible at story and continuity and nowadays it feels like he'd rather just pull out ahsoka in a series for nostalgia instead of actually trying to write a good story

[@TheSEAempire]

Finally.

[@Macamonkers]

grogu milkshake, yummers.

[@LordLawwritesforfans]

Disney if you want a road map for the next twenty years of success let me pitch at Lucasfilm please. I’ve the stories and a plan to do that. Have Hope fans!

[@councilmanbanks6528]

Great video man. I’m not going to lie, part of me just wants Disney to let Star Wars rest until they can find a new creative direction to take it.

[@Avarn388]

Great video. I would say Star Wars is "dead" but on a creative front. it will always have fan support in some shape or form. Honestly, there's so much wrong with modern Disney Star Wars but if I had to nail two things horribly lacking it is a lack of depth and intentionality. What do I mean? I will start with the former. Star Wars what made it great was that the simple premise of the light and dark side you could explore so much about it. The OT explored this fantastically with the concept of taking the easy path vs the right path and how even those motivated by good intentions can go bad. This is especially the case with how the series has utilized the Force. I was rereading the Legacy comics(they are fantastic) and something I liked was how Cade Skywalker having Force healing was significant. In universe it was a rare ability and while Cade could bring people back to life, he threatens himself going to the dark side. This caused his Jedi master to tell him not to use it, claiming it perverts the Force and he risks loosing himself. And the series explores that with great depth. Contrast that with Rise of Skywalker where Rey gets the power and there's zero limitations and the ramifications of that ability aren't explored. Pathetic. This is just one of many problems with modern Disney Star Wars that has pushed me away. Outside Andor, I really do not care. If Disney wants to capture my interest or anyone like me, they need to really go back to the drawing board. Have a strong, consistent vision who can be creative but cogent when creating their stories. Or at the very least execute more archetypical stories better. Case in point, Transformers One which was fantastic, and that story in its simplest form was two friends falling out.

[@johnmiller7637]

5:40 I HATED when they did that. It would've been so great if they allowed the characters to grow and develop but they Screwed it up like they did the new spiderman movies. Also congratulations and getting the done video buddy

[@TK-9851]

That's cool and all but have you considered that this is a franchise about space wizards intended for children?

[@MrStatement]

Something something Stormtrooper bumped his head in 1977 something something

[@Avarn388]

@TK-9851 I had to confront a cousin trying to utilize that when trying to defend the Sequels over Thanksgiving and boy did I go after him. Even if you want to use the kids argument, that's no excuse for kids stuff not being good. I grew up with the Toy Story films and a lot of great pixar films and plenty of great TV shows meant for kids, like last Airbender. And I'd argue that since we're dealing with children, who depending on their age, absorb this stuff like sponges, having quality media actually helps them develop and grow. Heck, I wouldn't be the person I was without Luke Skywalker. The OT taught me the importance of never giving up; always striving to do your best even if things seemed hopeless, and the importance of friendship. These are simple messages but they can leave an impact on children even as they become adults.

[@Hannahmeowcat]

@@MrStatementTK doesn’t know the guy either

[@TK-9851]

@@Hannahmeowcat Exactly, that mf ain't me

[@ashleyellis8875]

I have nothing but apathy it’s not dead as I’m reading EU books just read the thrawn trillogy and had a good time with it and I’ve really taken to Mara Jade skywalker

[@GonWhacktalker]

WHAT IS BABY YODA BLENDING ON THAT THUMBNAIL!!!! 💀

[@Macamonkers]

@@GonWhacktalker 😋

[@Hannahmeowcat]

FISHMAS 🙀🙀🙀

[@TK-9851]

Cook

[@MrStatement]

Whatever's going on in the thumbnail happened to my buddy Jim once.

[@capnkaba]

Star Wars’s biggest issue has and likely always will be a lack of cohesion. This is an issue which has plagued the franchise since Legends. Creators want to create _their_ Star Wars story without taking into consideration how it plays into the bigger picture, and so many stories just end up irrelevant to characters’ growth. Lucasfilm REALLY needs someone or a team of people to oversee the media that comes out to make sure it all works with each other. A franchise showrunner, if you will.

[@StarWarsOwen]

awesome vid and channel i subbed and we make similar content! i'm only looking forward towards more independent fan films especially vader 2 by theory. i despise disney star wars, used to be so great back in the day

[@Red-Renegade-Studios]

Star Wars is over. Done, finished, it's been done since 2005. That's the end of the story, George said so himself

[@HermitKing731]

Then he made the clone wars show.

[@Red-Renegade-Studios]

@HermitKing731 George Lucas?

[@TheTripleAce3]

​@@Red-Renegade-Studioshe was fairly involved in the production of tcw.

[@Red-Renegade-Studios]

@@TheTripleAce3 I'm aware. But the story of Star Wars itself is done. The Clone Wars is just filler

[@TheTripleAce3]

@@Red-Renegade-Studios I guess I was confused by your first reply then, my bad.

[@bodybrest2644]

Namecalling is clumsy and undermines your discourse. Without behaving respectfully you erode your respect. Outside of that, good video, keep at it.

[@omarrojo9484]

>Asking this in the year of our lord 2024

[@tabarebruch6257]

I think it's more than obvious than whatever Favreu and Finoli had for Din and Grogu in Season 3, which was most likely what you said about developing the two of them individually, was condensed into the two episodes of the BoBF, leaving nothing for season 3.

[@kedrprao]

"Has Star Wars lost its way?" This question would've been suitable in 2018 beacsue it lost the way lonnnngggg back

[@argkitsune]

Wow, Noach video one week before my birthday

[@SamBlips]

I think Star Wars needs to throw their weight behind ONE ERA. I appreciate trying to appral to different generations through eras but i feel as if this leading to strained resources, lack of creative cohesion and commitment, and just more audience segmentation.

[@Megatron_95]

Star Wars was over after 2005 Also Mando was over over after season 2 when the tin man and the muppet baby parted ways

[@ActuallyAndrewYT]

Gonna piss off the liberals with this one😏

[@franklarza1369]

Wait… so you don’t think Rey is the best thing to come out of Star Wars! Bigot.

[@HermitKing731]

Congratulations. You are the one billionth youtuber to make a video on how Star wars is bad now. here is your prize, sir.

[@monolithichashies7477]

Agreed with the general sentiment, but mildly offended you put Dune and Avatar in the same Category.

[@lawrencewalters9120]

I love when people say that "woke grifters" are just shitting on the show because "it's woke" is such a deflection most people don't like woke media and politics it's not a small minority it's the silent majority (look at the US election). People just want good media that doesn't feel like it's lecturing them constantly about how terrible they are. Sure some people see everything as "woke" and I don't agree with that but to suggest that no one cares and it's not over used is dishonest . No hate :-)

[@KingChronicX.2]

8 years later, better late than never.

[@theesm2100]

YES it absolutely did! thanks for watching! Make sure to hit that subscribe button!

[@Idea_of_Lustre]

Star Wars is not dead. It's undead, pushed forward by the necromancy of endless Disney money.

[@davidanderson4748]

You use of the term “drifter” completely undermines your intent. I saw nothing in the criticism about the Acolyte that pointed to grifters. Nope, just people who called a spade a spade, in this case calling out a cheap looking, poorly written and unevenly acted TV show for the junk that it was. In fact the whole “grifter”line was what the corporate damage control PR team and its sycophantic base used to disregard legitimate criticism. These people didn’t criticize Andor in the same way, in spite of a very diverse cast with an openly gay couple. Nope, they liked Andor because it was well written and tried to maximize its look in spite of limitations.

[@GonWhacktalker]

You said there would be no Noach video in No Noach November, you lair! 😡

[@MrStatement]

lair

[@GonWhacktalker]

@@MrStatement Liar* ... DAMN IT!

[@Royaljavk]

Yes

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

A) You're giving Avatar WAY too much credit, and B) while grifters certainly didn't help, Disney made it clear since their first live action remake how few fucks they give about audience reaction.

[@TK-9851]

Avatar is cool actually

[@TheSEAempire]

Avatar is excellent. People really give shit to good movies for the dumbest reasons.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

@@TheSEAempire I'd certianly sooner watch Avatar than spend another minute on Disney's Star Wars. Doesn't mean it's immune to criticism

[@terrythompson1873]

Yoooo’s got a point….!! ✌🏾

[@derpherp7432]

Critical Drinker had by far the biggest audience for criticising Acolyte and while I wouldnt defend Heel or Kinel or nerdrotic I think Drinker has tapped into something different with the public zeitgeist which is why he is the biggest movie critic on youtube right now, even my progressive friends watch the guy lol. I think the critics who like to think they are "auteur" or better than him don't really understand why he is doing so ridiculously well, they just see angry drunk scottish man complaining about wokeness and are befuddled why he is essentially 'winning'. The thing is that he is not auteur and he knows it, he is the average working class guy who likes popcorn media and wants better popcorn media, that's it, he is that perspective, that's why he is connecting with the general public.

[@ginger_gaming_channel]

I disagree with calling the end of the "Skywalker Saga" as unceremonious; it was a very ceremonious funeral for the franchise.

[@SheevTalks]

🤓

[@MrStatement]

Takes one to know one.

[@SheevTalks]

@ No one loves you

[@SATANICCOW]

Says the guy that uploaded a 2 hour video on attack of the mid

[@MrStatement]

@@SheevTalks Oh

[@ThePlecoPal]

It lost its way like 10 years ago

[@S1rEmber]

I am now a Noach enjoyer

[@PANCAKEMINEZZ]

I agree with what you're saying, but are we really including the dumpster fire that is Way of Water, or just Avatar in general in this idea of "promising franchises with passion and care put behind them"? Avatar 1 was fine, but ultimately did nothing except tell a very simple story that had a lot of missed potential to do some good worldbuilding. Way of Water just leaned further into that but told an absolutely shit story that also added worst worldbuilding elements than the first.

[@Chris_Thorndyke]

rip Star Wars

[@JumptheTrench]

Anything that’s context to Disney’s Star Wars and their sequels is utter trash 🗑️

[@aidenborne331]

Already knew the video was gonnna be woke

[@Hannahmeowcat]

Wokech live

[@rmw9420]

muh woke propaganda in muh space opera

[@JustMe_Inq]

yeah he woke up and made a banger of a video

[@aidenborne331]

@ fax

[@Hannahmeowcat]

⁠@@JustMe_Inqcook

[@timewarpdrive77]

I like this video less than the last. Overall I agree, though calling Ryan Kinnel is grifter seems ridiculous to me. Dude has is totally devoted to SW and his politics don't change that.

[@MrTragedious986]

Even though I don’t liked the Acolyte I would say……… NO.

[@ct-1177]

So you don't like some culture warriors? (The Grifters you mentioned?)

[@noachlive]

I don't like any of them 😂

[@ct-1177]

@@noachlive I don't like them either because I don't know what they would think of some of the stuff I love/like (Zootopia and Disney star wars cartoons)

[@A21-EDITS21]

Nope it hasn't. It has ups and downs but it's still alive and well fans are just cry babies.

[@Ronam0451]

I guess wanting good content for something you like is being a cry baby

[@TheSEAempire]

God forbid people want good content!

[@lacolem1]

Liking quality content is such a turnoff

[@HHindsight]

the problem is that it insists on continuity with the rest of star wars and that just cant be rationalized, if you have the original trilogy contiguous with the sequel trilogy well that's not three bad movies it's six. If the sequels were almost enough to kill star wars the rest of the content they've pumped out on top of it completely supplants it, Star Wars isn't about getting your imagination going anymore, it's really about a formulaic nostalgia checkbox on top of mediocre uncharismatic modern storytelling

[@terrythompson1873]

Yoooo’s got a point….!! ✌🏾

[@gamerofcomics492]

Yes