Overeating sugar doesn’t make you gain weight? | How hclf vegans stay skinny on 3000+ calories

PhD researcher breaks down a scientific study (linked below) to find out how much weight you gain from overeating sugar, to see if it supports the anecdotal evidence from high carb low fat vegans who claim they're able to eat so much without gaining weight. I talk about how much of that sugar and carbohydrate you can turn into fat via de novo lipogenesis, the specific macronutrient ratios and amounts the participants were eating, whether eating more fat or carbs increases de novo lipogenesis more, whether being obese or a healthy weight affects how many carbs you turn into fat, how much the process varies between individuals, why we do it in the first place, and more! (This study involves overeating by ~1000 calories, or 50% above maintenance intake, on a standard American diet.)
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[@MichePhD]

NOTE: Here is another paper from Berkeley that was not funded by industry, which also shows

[@andregavalas]

Wow very interesting study. Fat oxidation decreased by 90% however carbohydrate oxidation six-folded. Just goes to show if you want to succeed on this diet you must keep fat intake incredibly low. Great video 👌

[@dragonchr15]

durianrider was saying this for a more than a decade now.....high carb diet, lots of water, and exercise is the key to long-term sustainable weight loss and health

[@durianriders]

*Ive been teaching it since 1996 actually when I coached my friend to a 20kg fat loss shred.

[@mikey.1205]

@@durianriders THE KING

[@robhingston]

@@mikey.1205 I just sent him the video again,

[@robhingston]

durianrider really is the King

[@jono1457-qd9ft]

Durianrider rides a lot.

[@evageliap6880]

As somebody struggling with disordered eating, your videos have really helped me lately with tackling the fear and confusion that often comes with food. Thank you for your dedication to science and truth

[@MichePhD]

I am so happy to hear my videos are helpful for you. Thank you so much for sharing, and I wish you all the best!

[@unicornguy9676]

Dr Mcdougall, Dr Garth Davis and R.D Jeff Novick talked about this study many times in the past. Great video Miche 😄

[@MichePhD]

Thank you! I didn't know that, glad we're all on the same page! :)

[@makhavani6034]

You are God sent. Pls continue. You vids debunks lot of "crap" in the internet

[@MichePhD]

Thank you so much!

[@casper98204]

Love your content. Thanks for all your hard work.

[@maristelaromao2294]

This material is gold thanks

[@user-cs7si2zl9p]

its true, talking from my experience. i would eat 3k-4k cals a day high carb, low fat - lot of potatoes and veggie pizzas, white flour ! pastas. no weight gain. when i started eating the same amount of cals with foods full of fat (for ex. tiramisu)i instantly gained FAT. was very interesting for me as well. btw im 5'4 100lbs right now for reference. also in the past i found it interesting when i eat a LOT of nut butter for some days i gain fat again, even though im not overeating much in cals at all. never gain weight when i overeat rice! when i was kid i was skinny and i remember once i ate one jar of nutella (which i never had before in my life) and cellulite appeared on me for the first time! i was like what the heck. dont be afraid of carbs ppl! just avoid fat and enjoy your bananas hahahah they are not gonna harm you, also regulate your appetite on long term ;)

[@MichePhD]

So true, glad you've seen the difference in your own life!

[@Tania-rg7jp]

Fat also has way more calories in a couple tablespoons vs a couple bowls of pure carb. You may not have been eating as many calories in carb as you think.

[@jill1452]

Helpful video - thanks so much!!!

[@azdhan]

Great video! Thanks for sharing

[@SugarGotAlongway2catchme]

Fascinating… could you please make more videos on this topic . Seems like it’s been some years

[@patricebrown6051]

Glad I found your chnl. Love this video.

[@aleksadodic5102]

So what's making you think that the carbs don't turn to fat in significant amount? - in caloric surplus body will always prioritize glucose as a source of energy and will store fatty acids in the adipose tissue instead doing the opposite - burning fat and storing glucose via de novo lipogenesis; which is what this study shows - de novo lipogenesis was minimal since almost all the energy requirements were met by carbs solely. Is there a study where they had very low fat in the diet while being in similar caloric surplus using very high carbs? It just makes sense that de novo lipogenesis would be tenfold higher than in this study.

[@ericbeck6390]

great video!

[@PinkFlowers365]

Thanks for the info

[@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441]

Very informative & I agree 100%

[@MichePhD]

Glad it was helpful--thank you!

[@eloradanan1837]

Well explained...thank you!

[@MichePhD]

Thank you for watching!

[@DouglasYabuki]

Hi, Can you put what you said on the whiteboard while you are talking? You provided great amount of information. Thank you.

[@user-nq9gz4xf7f]

i dont understand everything, but as a carb lover i feel you are a champion, and you even seem to be saying sugar is not the devil, others are saying it is. I have a friend who is not looking good on Keto diet trying to combat diabetes, has gained a lot of weight. Diet wars, Keto is past its high point and is losing steam as diet fad. You should have a video where you debate a low carb keto type, mano a mano, or woman to woman, it would probably end in a draw but there might be some wounds or a victor.😀

[@stsword9706]

nice vid! i wish ppl around me can understand this concept. I'm so tired convincing them to eat carbs. we need more ppl like you to fix the ppl's mind about carb. there are too many sugar haters out there, and the worst kind of ppl are those who tell others to avoid carbs and focus on eating more protein and fat, which is really harmful for them.

[@__-ul7cc]

Are refined carbs include in the carbs mentioned in these studies? Or we should avoid those? Also, what would be the percentage of calories we should take from protein, carbs and fats for a healthy diet and lose fat weight?

[@jean-guybernard2046]

Good morning Miche, Was the conversion of sugar to fat in this study measured only at the hepatic level? Because the greatest conversion of sugar into fat occurs at the fat cell level.

[@richardbeard9391]

great stuff

[@MichePhD]

Thank you!

[@armanzbahrani291]

Nice video. There's just one concern with a high sugar diet: it is known to disrupt and injure endothelial function. And if you have a runaway bacterial overgrowth in your gut, that's a double-whammy of trouble. Of course these can be mitigated with plenty of aerobic exercise, and with supplementing with glycine and choline. But there there's also the issue of the sugar feeding tumors. Best just stick with fruit as much as possible.

[@straightedgeveganbel2453]

Love it!!

[@MichePhD]

Thanks so much! :)

[@nichomoser977]

Great video. Fact of the matter is that the whole "calories in/calories out" idea completely violates the first two laws of thermodynamics helps further explain why all of these cases and instances of CICO not working. Would be interesting to see what it was exactly the subjects were eating in regards to their carbs/fat, as a stick of butter is not the same as eating pumpkin seeds. The body is incredibly complex, and peoples' lives are complex to the point its pretty much impossible to account for every factor. I found people would be better off measuring how much food people eat based on their level of satiety, rather than calories, since that is pretty much how every other animal on earth measures how much they eat and not all "calories" (since we cant technically consume a calorie), carbs/proteins/fats are the same. Thank you for your videos and work, incredibly valuable info/perspective

[@Kate-zl3zl]

Question: I’m celiac but would like to have bagels if possible. The only vegan bagels around here that are also gf have white rice flour, sugar…I try to eat whole grain…what are your thoughts?

[@rez4998]

I tried keto for years and was stsrving all the time. When i switched to hclf i was hungry all the time but i let myself eat everything from fruit, whole grains, and white bread and fat free candy like gummies and cotton candy. Eventually mh appetite decreases so much that now vegetables fill me up so much and i have to eat candy and white bread and popsicles just to get enough caleries andim still losing weight. Hclf restores your hunger hormones so you're not hungry all the time! Im a guy who was anorexic in my past btw so this stuff works for guys too

[@MichePhD]

So true! Hclf is really great for resetting your appetite.

[@CalmVibesVee]

So I’m curious about how much fat your intake is? How low? I’m trying hclf. So are we talking 20grams? 10? I honestly have no idea.

[@idendelanora668]

@@CalmVibesVee10-20g of fat, usually 15g is the “sweet spot”

[@kalipiana3880]

great video...........

[@FruitForFuel]

I would really love if you could respond to this comment, I just have one question about this. I am a huge proponent of high carb low fat and it is the diet I follow. However I’m just curious in this context, is it possible that de novo lipogenesis is it down regulated or rather less used in this instance because of the already excess fat being in taken? Have you ever found any studies on de novo lipogenesis where the test subjects are actually taking in super low dietary fats? I’ve researched and looked around myself and I have never found it unfortunately they always seem to have a minimum of 20% calories from fat. Very curious about that

[@MichePhD]

Sorry about the delay, youtube notifications for comments is terrible lately so I rarely see any on old videos. That's actually why I'm starting a Discord soon, for just these kinds of excellent questions! Yes, I have seen studies with as low as ~10% fat looking at DNL. It does seem like DNL gets upregulated on a very low fat diet--I'll need to research more to see how significant an impact that upregulation could be expected to have on weight etc. Adding it to my video topics list!

[@FruitForFuel]

Excited to see it!!

[@v-sig2389]

I like your videos :) Could you sometimes put text on your left or right when you describe numbers so we better see the picture ? Thank you !

[@MichePhD]

Thank you! Good suggestion, I'll try to start doing that more :)

[@anth115]

This video is confusing. Every ither video you say over eating carbs helps. Your bread study video proved just adding carbs to a regular diet does help people lose weight. In this video you said that's not true. Yet in this video you say if you eat iver maintenance you'll gain weight every. With carbs because it will draw from the fat soon as you go over maintenance. Confusing

[@lanazak773]

I’m very interested in your starch vs sugar video you mentioned near the end but can’t find it. Please advise

[@travelpeople2936]

How about high A1C level people or insulin resistance women? What should we eat? So don’t cut out sugar or all carbs like keto diet? I am confused how carnivore diet or keto diet recommends to eat more fat to go into ketosis. I am just going to conclude eat whole food diet on balanced nutrition.

[@truth_seeker_here22]

great video!! it meant white refined sugar?

[@floravicky7342]

Plant based diet is abslotly the best Thank'x miche 😍

[@MichePhD]

Agreed! Thanks :)

[@SiphoCzok]

Hello, do you have tips or Lifehacks how to do high carb at work? I work in retail trade with costumer contact and I can’t eat every time when I’m hungry. Eating 350 Grams of Pasta with Beans is not possible at all. That’s the reason why every try of going high carb low fat failed for me.

[@joelmelnick3786]

If I add an avocado or nuts to my meal I exceed the 10-20g of fat. I believe you advocated this because these fats are healthy. Does this higher fat consumption reduce the benefits of the high carb low fat diet?

[@mad5759]

This is so true!! I tried it on myself. But obviously “sugar” = good carbs - veggies & fruits...no grains or processed carbs..that’s what works for me 🤷‍♀️

[@MichePhD]

Unprocessed foods are definitely the best way to go!

[@916bigAl]

dj121 they irritate the gut lining. I lost 60 pounds eating white rice 🍚 (can’t handle brown) and apple juice

[@durianriders]

SUCROSE IS SUCROSE no matter the source lol.

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

somehow people think that just eating sugar is going to cause you to gain all this extra weight. from a standpoint of weight, it's burned the same. from a health standpoint, too much of it can cause irritability and issues down the line.

[@antevadas3840]

I eat rice, potato, toasted bread, oats, fish, beef, chicken, eggs. Also focusing on fats and organs, fish and lamb heads and brains. Fruit and some vegetables. I easily eat 100g of butter a day, like a puding, or greek yoghurt and honey. So i usually eat high carb, high fat diet. Easily eating 100g of starch in one meal, or 600g of beef a meal. Height 1.93 cm, weight 73 kg. Around 15% fat. Physical and mental activity keeps me skinny.

[@katieklb1025]

can you please do a video on weight gain?🙏

[@bhojjadamotabanda]

It works for me. When I eat a mixed diet, even if it is whole food based, I can go to 2100-2200 calories after which I start to gain fat. I weigh every ingredient before cooking and am accurate at calorie counting. But when I do high carb low fat, even if I have a lot of sugar (white sugar), I can go to 3400 calories and till LOSE FAT! I am not a vegan or vegetarian though. I consume skimmed milk when doing high carb low carb. Low fat high carb gives me a lot of leverage as compared to a mixed diet. Similar thing happens when I go low carb high fat (ketogenic) but I don't feel much good on that. So I do an occasional day of low carb high carb when I eat my nuts, seeds, eggs, and meat. This has helped me lose fat while smashing in calories, being energetic, and have excellent blood work.

[@MichePhD]

That's awesome!

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

it's impossible to increase the calories and not gain weight. doesn't matter what way or diet you do, it runs the same.

[@bhojjadamotabanda]

​@@atozbodyfitness6311 No it doesn't. The mechanism of fat storage are different for different source nutrients. Fat gets stored as is. Carbs are preferably "burned" by the body, excess is stored as glycogen, when glycogen stores are full and there is still excess, body increases metabolism to "burn off" excess carbs upto a certain limit and if there are still excess carbs, conversion to fat causes about 20% of the calories to be used. So if the fat in the diet is very low, you geta lot of leverage to eat without gaining fat (triggering DNL or De Novo Lipogenesis). A quote from the study "Glycogen storage capacity and de novo lipogenesis during massive carbohydrate overfeeding in man" says, "When the glycogen stores are saturated, massive intakes of carbohydrate are disposed of by high carbohydrate-oxidation rates and substantial de novo lipid synthesis (150 g lipid/d using approximately 475 g CHO/d)". Energy ratio of carbs to fats is 4:9, and considering we get 150g fat storage from 475g carbs, 29% of the calories are lost by increased rate of oxidation and conversion costs. The key to take advantage of this phenomenon is take keep the percentage of fat extremely low with excess carbs (less than 10% of calories) else the fat will directly get stored. The small amount of fat ingested is utilized for necessary functions instead.

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

@@bhojjadamotabanda when you keep fat percentage low then you drop caloires as fat is higher dense foods I'm general. Which is why you will.drop weight because it comes to your caloires in versus out. I could go on a high fat diet, and still eat below my caloric maintenance and I will still lose weight. Althoufh what you said is all true it doesn't trump above total caloric intake.

[@bhojjadamotabanda]

@@atozbodyfitness6311 Not dropping calories, as I mentioned calories in the initial comment but increasing them. Calories counted using weighing raw ingredients, even weighing little things like garlic, onion, spinach, ketchup etc.

[@TurboD16z6]

How much carb do you need to eat, How much you need carbohydrate to regular your blood sugar. I'm always hungry on a carb diet. I can go on days on the fat diet.

[@mariahpetersen2333]

How does the body burn off the fat if it always has carbs to burn off first?

[@MichePhD]

Great question! My theory is that we use fat in various processes in the body (making hormones & mucus, as some examples), so we take it from our stores if there isn't enough in our diet. I'm looking into papers to make a whole video on the theory though :)

[@davidbowen6284]

It's defined by how high your fat intake is. Carbs are not supposed to linger in the blood stream for too long. High blood sugar is dangerous. Its the job of insulin to regulate blood sugar. It's primary job is shuttling nutrients (Carbs) into cells to create energy. Fat coats the blood, make it thickers, so rather than insulin using it to create energy, it stores it as fat. Too much sugar, oils, Salt, Dairy, fat is toxic for the body. The body only needs trace elements of fat which you can get from fruit and veg.

[@burtman9649]

Sugars are stored as glycogen in our muscles. Eating dead animal flesh cooked or not has rigamortis in it. It's dead obviously . It becomes ever more putrid in your guts. One of the reason most people's breath smells like a fresh terd.🌭=💩

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

it still burns fat as carbohydrates ar being used. fat as used is a longer means of energy while carbs are use more frequently as they are preferred but eh body. but they both continusly get burned, carbs just burn more.

[@dragonchr15]

your body needs fat a for a number of other functions. in the absence of dietary fat from your food, it will mostly likely take it from your fat stores for these processes obviously, you will probably not find any studies on this because the lobbyists want to demonize sugar and force everyone to eat low carb or keto to promote more dairy and meat consumption i have done HCLF for a few weeks now and the fat is melting off. i just keep my fat below 30g per day.

[@Mike65809]

Great material but hard to take in all of the numbers. More charts would have been helpful. Thanks.

[@Nighthawk5015]

I'm assuming the carbs and fats did not come from overly processed food in the study.

[@TimpBizkit]

Been curious about this after watching Durianrider and his entourage but trying to find multiple sources to weed out any potential liars. I'm curious as to why you wouldn't gain weight on sugar. I would think this would only be true eating until reasonable satisfaction, and not eating as much as you physically can. After all I watched EricTheElectric munch down 3kg of pure sugar in the form of a cube (yeah there was some protein and fat too). I have heard that conversion of sugar to fat is about 75% efficient so if you eat 3g (12kcal) of sugar, then 1 gram of fat can be made and 3kcal of thermal losses in the sugar conversion machine. Whereas fat to fat stores is close to 100% efficient and I'm not sure about excess Calories in the form of protein. As far as the Calories, I actually believe the opposite - that if the energy budget is spent on mainly carbohydrate, less Calories will be consumed for the same satisfaction. I've had the experience of eating high fat meals and thinking "Really? That many Calories? It felt like a small snack!" The other thing is carbohydrates restock glycogen. If it is low, you will feel fairly gutless when it comes to anything physical. The engine is sputtering a bit with only fat, thus doesn't output as many horsepower or spends more of the day inactive or sleepy, and doesn't get through as many Calories than someone with an all day sugar rush.

[@TimpBizkit]

I'm also wondering whether the person with the added carbs and fat used a higher ratio of carbs to fat to fuel their day, so the person gained extra weight not from conversion of carbs, but from replacement of fat usage with carb usage, thus more fat was stored than the extra fat eaten because some fat was not used which would have been used if the person ate less carbs.

[@SugarGotAlongway2catchme]

So why are they left with 620 fat? What happened to the other 630g of fat? @michephd & if they would have worked out and burned 620 calories would this have negated the fat gain?

[@55-555_]

Hi, so if while being vegan eating excess carbs won't make you fat. But eating excess fat will cause you to gain??

[@MaCome4631]

Yes, you got it.

[@55-555_]

@@MaCome4631 thanks :)

[@MichePhD]

Yes, fat is easily stored as weight.

[@noramuller6334]

And would you say the minnie maude guidelines are a good basic recommendendation?

[@MichePhD]

Great question! I don't think I personally agree with them because it seems like it would only be feasible for those who have decided on their own that they want to recover.

[@pinkhat0242]

4:21 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

[@Kobayashhi]

Final nail in the coffin of low carbers.

[@deepalisoneji-bhatt9141]

Tegardles of weight gain or diabetes... Refined sugar lowers immunity. Vegan or non vegan.... The people who tryly benefits from any diets is who switch to -- whole non processed foods. ---I guess... That is what is more important ...

[@atozbodyfitness6311]

you would have to just eat sugar for it to lower your immunity completely. but anything can lower immunity. everything in moderation.

[@milenailic1437]

I will try this on myself and I will let you know about the results. I will eat more shugars and less fat.

[@katzberlin1060]

But howww am I supposed to eat that little amount of fat( 2-10gram) ? :( cant even have oats, avocados or eggs anymore then? I feel this is very hard to acieve if you want to eat balanced... Low carb seems much easier somehow, but it all is really confusing.

[@12298]

this isn’t a balanced diet. any diet where you are prioritizing a macro isn’t going to be balanced. you are supposed to eat that little fat by going out of your comfort zone and trying a different way of eating. why even watch videos like this if you are upset about it?

[@rez4998]

I've also noticed that when I eat more procsssdd sugar and carbs and less fiber over time my stomach shrinks so fiber fills me up the way it's suppose to. When i was anorexic i could eat pounds of raw vegetables without getting full. I had like a fiber resistence. So anyaay that's one good reason to eat a lot of procsssed carbs lmao

[@MichePhD]

That makes sense! Thanks for sharing your experience :)

[@CalmVibesVee]

How much fat is low for a high carb diet to stay lean?

[@MichePhD]

It's a good question, but there's no clear single answer. I do have that on my video to-do list so stay tuned.

[@Pikelet12]

@@MichePhD durian and freelee, and others like them, have been saying that trying to keep under 10g of fat per day (for an average person) is a good goal. Or, it might look like 80/10/10 re Doug Graham being 80% carbs 10 fat 10 protein as a rough guide

[@LightWaterRecords]

Indeed I checked the paper and it says at the bottom supported by the Sugar Bureau, London @Miche could you comment on this?

[@MichePhD]

Thanks for pointing that out, I ended up cutting that out of the video (along with many other things) to save time! First, other studies show the same approximate rate of DNL (at least 5 cited in the discussion), this one was just a particularly nice method so I chose this one as the example. This particular study wasn't aiming to show that sugar doesn't lead to much DNL (and they barely discussed the low rate of DNL, they focused more on how it doubled)--the goal of the study was to test the differences between sucrose and glucose in DNL. And they found no results there. Here is another paper from Berkeley that was not funded by industry, showing

[@LightWaterRecords]

@@MichePhD Thanks for the reply. :)

[@MichePhD]

@@LightWaterRecords Thank you for bringing it up, definitely an important point :)

[@cypriano8763]

r we going back to Durianriders Sugar Mountain.lol

[@MultiShizmo]

The problem with nutritional science is that people doing the "science" are approaching it from an idealogical perspective. Or to put it another way confirmation bias. I would love to see a vegan attempt to prove keto is the best diet or conversely a meat eater prove vegan diet is the best, that way we can eliminate the bias from the conversation. As a non scientist I have to take your word that you know what you're talking about, but for all I know you're just cherry picking certain papers to back up your stance. This is true of the keto/lchf crowed as well.

[@bhojjadamotabanda]

Vegan is about source of foods and keto is about the macronutrient composition. They are different things. There are many vegans who do a keto diet. Just today I saw a video by a vegan that how keto diet is the best. And they quoted some study they found where vegans on an Atkins diet are the longest lived. And there are many meat eaters who do a high carb low fat diet (large percentage of bodybuilders during the cutting phase). The studies she is quoting in the video are about macronutrients and not about vegan. Those studies themselves don't say anything about plant/animal sources. Do't confuse those two things.

[@MultiShizmo]

@@bhojjadamotabandaI think you missed the key point I was trying to make.

[@bhojjadamotabanda]

@@MultiShizmo I didn't miss it. I only commented on one aspect of your comment. It doesn't mean I missed the other parts.

[@mitchfarber]

I completely agree. She obviously was trying to prove her own bias!

[@JoeJaeger]

You're INCREDIBLY beautiful.

[@lupeestrada9021]

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[@lunamorvran8202]

Ahhhh ! You have studies they have studies what is freaken true ? Grrr

[@Doireannxo]

NOTE :the study was funded by The Sugar Bureau, London....

[@MichePhD]

Thanks for pointing that out, I ended up cutting that out of the video (along with many other things) to save time! First, other studies show the same approximate rate of DNL (at least 5 cited in the discussion), this one was just a particularly nice method so I chose this one as the example. This particular study wasn't aiming to show that sugar doesn't lead to much DNL (and they barely discussed the low rate of DNL, they focused more on how it doubled)--the goal of the study was to test the differences between sucrose and glucose in DNL. And they found no results there. Here is another paper from Berkeley that was not funded by industry, showing

[@rickycarfan54]

i don’t like the message of this video. One premise: from all the diet i’ve tried and tested i (on me) the best is whole food high carb super low fat diet: lot of veggies, lot of fruits, lean meat, egg whites.. This is the one i like the most and the one that keeps me more satiate. Say so: the message that it’s difficult to gain wheight by overeating carbs is FALSE. Sure.. if you eat in a surplus your body will tend to burn all the carbs (cause they are the favourite fuel source) and store only the fat (cause they are already “fat”); but if you eat 200 calories in a surplus: 60% carbs 40% protein 0% fat all those 200 calories will be turned into fat (from carbs and maybe some also from protein) calories in surplus are calories in surplus! sure as hell!!! i’ve done many many time on me and when i want to “bulk” a little bit in increase the amount of beetroot (and nothing else, so i’m still on a almost zero fat diet) and the weight (and fat and hopefully some muscle) goes on. Stop spreading this misconception: exess calories makes you fat, both from carbs, fat or protein!!!

[@katarinadamnjanovic7437]

Fats aren't bad, they were bad here because they were combined with high amounts of carbohydrates.

[@maxmwegerano7400]

People need to understand it's not single macronutrient u should blame but your overall lifestyle and how much energy u ingest in the first place.

[@programinc7581]

you become a diabetic instead.

[@durianriders]

Where is my diabetes after 45 years on a high sugar diet?

[@ronplatz7202]

yeah not buying it. I know for a fact that for me, more sugar = more weight gain. I dont need anyone to tell me different because I lived it.

[@ratedn4nia]

Why can’t you realize that no one diet is going to work for everyone. This may work for some but definitely not all

[@DavidBloodJohnson]

Every single bit of this information is completely wrong

[@followme8238]

Gary Traube has a book and some videos where he explains that 20calories extra per day equates to 2# a year, over 20 years turns a slim 25 year old into an overweight or obese 45 year old