Secret Invasion Pitch Meeting

[@DMS-pq8]

Ryan's Pitch Meetings should be required viewing at every Disney board meeting

[@rakeshmalik5385]

That would be one way to liven up those bored meetings!

[@willbrashear]

Just Disney?

[@BrianPellerin]

Oh baby. Imagine the boardroom’s reaction

[@sarmamadhavan]

Exactly

[@KissedPuppet]

Him and The Drinker.... and enjoy like #600. Round numbers are tight!

[@thebeardedmanager]

The obliteration of the final fight is one of the best deconstructions Ryan has done. Superb stuff.

[@RFYoriginal]

Marvel obliterated it themselves by showing that God awful cgi fest.

[@extantsanity]

But he could have mentioned that Gravik "just kinda forgot about his healing powers" a la Game of Thrones, since Emilia Clarke is in it as another benevolent OP character 😂

[@thedude3065]

hey, shuddup

[@attila0323]

@@extantsanity How did you managed to write Amelia Clark instead of Emilia Clarke? Just curious.

[@extantsanity]

@@attila0323 Just an oversight. Fixed, thanks!

[@z-beeblebrox]

Imagine for a second that you're tasked with making a spy thriller for Marvel. And imagine that it will star Nick Fury, so you already have a strategic genius in the script. And imagine also that the villains of this spy thriller are shape shifting aliens, the hands-down easiest thing you can do to generate surprise twists in a spy thriller (so easy that literally every MI movie has relied on their impossible perfect face masks like a crutch). And now also ALSO imagine that this show will be named after an already well-received comic run that's basically done all the heavy lifting for you about twice, maybe even 3x over if you count the first Ultimates run. And NOW...imagine you fail to use ANY OF THAT effectively. That's Secret Invasion.

[@Customerbuilder]

Underrated comment.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Well said...

[@dantaboo]

I'm starting to see why AI is becoming an attractive alternative to these human Hollywood writers. They keep finding ways to make things worse.

[@LuigiGamesful]

It will star Nick Fury > turned him into an old miserable man who lost his strategic mind The villains are shape shifting aliens > they revealed the identities of most of the Skrulls almost immediately I swear the writers intentionally sabotage the series because there's no way they managed to succeed at doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing

[@ayayron8221]

The fucking director should be blacklisted from Marvel Studios lmao. Matter fact, he should be blacklisted from ever making films again.

[@merytsitmaat9308]

After they redshirted Agent Hill, I decided not to suffer through any more of it and just let Ryan tell me what happens with the rest of the series. Thanks Ryan!

[@SobiTheRobot]

I wasn't gonna watch this anyway, but the fact they got rid of Fury's top lieutenant (a genuine badass in her own right) just pisses me off.

[@genericname2747]

​@@SobiTheRobotthey should've killed off Nick Fury. Not even murdered him, just let him die naturally and let Maria take over

[@Mepphy99]

​@@SobiTheRobotthat's probably because She has brain problems ... It still was a shit idea

[@alexandregrand-pierre1981]

I can see why they did it, but it really doesn't sit right with me that we've had a character who was his right hand woman from the beginning of the MCU who we get to see briefly in almost every MCU project, but still has pretty little development. Yet despite this, she still became a fan favorite. Then when we finally get a chance to delve deeper into her character and her dynamic with Fury, she gets killed off in the first episode for shock value, funeral in the beginning of the 2nd episode where the only familiar face we get to see come pay respects is Fury despite plenty of former shield and Avengers members still being around, and then she's pretty much forgotten after that. Basically Agent Hill got fridged.

[@cutieovo9943]

@@alexandregrand-pierre1981Like it’s bizarre to me that somebody like Hawkeye, Spider-man, or even somebody like Thor or hulk didn’t make an appearance at that funeral. Hawkeye was an agent of shield with Hill, Spider-man worked for her in Far from home, and Thor and hulk are OG Avengers. The one that pisses me off is Spider-Man though. In the comics Spider-Man arguably goes through more loss and tragedy than any comic book character to date. If there is one superhero that I have 100000% confidence in that they’ll show up to that funeral, it’s Spider-Man. Not having him there feels wrong

[@CrisisComics]

The fact that they decided to adapt an event from the comics and immediately told the director "Don't read the comics, this has nothing to do with the comics" shows how passionless this marriage has become.

[@kayjacoby290]

To be fair, the passion on the Disney side was always for money; not the material.

[@kaltaron1284]

How could they even adapt the story from the comics when in the comics the Skrull are an intergalactic empire and in the MCU a refugee group on Earth. I know which one makes for a grander story.

[@FunkyDouch3000]

passionless? I wouldn't say that. there's passionate hatred for the source material flowing through every fiber of the new MCU stuff.

[@Kukaak]

​@@kaltaron1284 They could've still adapted some elements of it, just because one thing is different doesn't mean all of the source material was unusable

[@frigginresulrum]

Did they get Bryan Singer to run the show?

[@randomxgen6167]

"There's no way I'm checking" definitely sounds like it was a guiding principle for this series.

[@vitmir9099]

...as well as for 95% of all others, too 😅

[@greghannibal]

same with Disney in general these days

[@richardmattocks]

I get the feeling Ryan was in the middle of writing the sketch but just couldn’t face going to the movie and checking the post credit scene because it’s just soooo bad. 🤣

[@juicegod777]

The director literally said “it would take a librarian to go back and check all the scenes” (referencing Rhody being a Skrull since Civil War) 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Flaris]

@@juicegod777 I'd go with something like "you spent over 200 million on this show...hire a librarian then!"

[@kingjulien9525]

I have to admit: Pitch Meeting is my way to keep up with 98% of movie/shows I'll never watch, but still find them entertaining for less than 10min.

[@DaysofElijah317]

100%

[@BenIntentional]

Facts.

[@theLikou1]

I mean, I don't waste my money on hot garbage and still have a lot of fun with those products in a fraction of the time. Fun that I wouldn't have in any second of watching these. It's totally a win situation.

[@itzYonko]

​@@theLikou1You just like me fr

[@TheRenofox]

I got permanently put off of western movies after Batman Vs Superman, and it sounds like movies have only gone downhill after that.

[@hootsifer-darling]

"You sound insane, we don't do that now!" "I know" oooofff felt that in my bones, well done Ryan

[@aaronjones4529]

I was just gonna post the exact same...

[@ceasarsaran8573]

It would be nice if they did, and it would be better if the writers actually had talent.

[@thomash3218]

Didnt the director/writers work on theese episodes for something like 22 months before shooting?

[@aaronjones4529]

@@thomash3218 Probably, but the topic is current now 😅 ... Are you suggesting that Ryan take the pi$$ in 22 months time on a movie affected by the AI movement? 🤔... By then, the joke would fall flat on it's face. 😐🤣🤣

[@garyl5128]

Made me laugh too.

[@femiairboy94]

I will never understand how a company like Disney, with the vast resources at its disposal, access to some of the best actors on the planet, ridiculous amount of source material to choose from, decide to continually churn out hot garbage is beyond me.

[@abhikmoj5853]

You've managed to put words to my exact thoughts since 2020!

[@Doomzdeh]

It’s because they lack passion. They used to put passionate people on these projects and let them work out a project. Now, they’ve lined their forces with “reliable people” who know every cliche in the book. Disney no longer takes any chances at all and doesn’t think of what messages they want their products to send. Instead, they think up stereotypical plotlines, punchlines, generic fight sequences, diversity checklists, and how much money they will make. Take Puss in Boots: Last Wish as an example of a recent Dreamworks product that exceeded expectations. You can tell that it was made with passion, from the animation style to the movements of the characters to even their roles within the story. Each part of the movie seems to serve a purpose and character interactions serve to get the movie’s message across. Disney used to understand such things; now they just understand profit.

[@Sorain1]

Well, your not that level of Evil/Delusional then. So, upside?

[@TheDRexor]

Writers, which coincidently want a raise for their garbage

[@jackflash8218]

Because all the fk'n Monkeys just keep blindly consuming said hot garbage. Stop... fk'n... watching. Just assume that everything the Mouse puts out is going to be worthless drek. Fk Disney.

[@darkzak47]

It should be distressing to a company like Disney that Ryan’s pitch meeting is vastly more entertaining and interesting than the $200 million blown on whatever this was supposed to be

[@shailonnoelle7175]

It's there to launder money now

[@Jeudaos]

facts

[@Undomaranel]

Distressing to businessmen? Nah. But to the creatives and artists that sold their voice to make art for the businessmen? Definitely.

[@dikydankedude]

Though I agree that Pitch Meeting is more entertaining than half of the things he parodies, he still needs these dumpster fires.

[@Tzgrey77]

Or spy apple tv show made for 45 millon

[@skeetsmcgrew3282]

This might have been the most brutal Ryan has ever been on a Pitch Meeting. I think he made fun of literally every aspect except the acting

[@xitaris5981]

Well it's hard to get an accurate calibration on the quality of acting when the writing doesn't really give the actors much to work with. Even the best actors can look like amateurs with the wrong script.

[@pvshka]

@@xitaris5981 "What? Nooo."

[@multi-florum]

this is the first Marvel show where I didn't even give the first episode a shot. It just... eh...

[@15thobserver]

@@xitaris5981 "To bad You! Will die!"

[@bombarded15]

Nah, that Scooby Doo show was (justifiably) as brutal

[@pureawesome01able]

Man… watching a pitch meeting instead of the actual show is tight! 😂

[@hoon_sol]

Dude, the series is really great; I just loved when Nick Fury went "it's furin' time", and just furied all over everyone.

[@dreamworksgoal]

100th like.

[@ErnaB790]

Super easy... barely an inconvenience 😂

[@danjager6200]

Watching an anime instead of a show that cost as much as 800 episodes of anime is tight!

[@sonnychavez6282]

Wow wow wow wow

[@lckaboom6810]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard Ryan more cynical than in those last few seconds, and in this series, that’s saying something.

[@bradwiggins2332]

really felt for real sympathy for screenwriter guy there for a moment

[@vivannet231]

Heyshutup!

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

​@@bradwiggins2332Nah,he deserves it.

[@sanctamachina]

Screenwriter guy deserves to be replaced due to the quality of ideas he writes.

[@Jesse__H]

"We don't do that NOW!" "I know." 🫥

[@AverySuzuki]

It's fun to imagine Ryan alone in his apartment in front of a green screen saying "SAMUEL L JACKSON TONGUING STUFF IS TIGHT" as passionately as possible

[@ssotkow]

His alter ego Bryan.

[@williamcordier1201]

"SAMUEL L JACKSON TONGUING STUFF as passionately as possible IS TIGHT"

[@WritingSecrets]

😂😂

[@EndureTyrant]

Or the fact that he probably had to say it over and over again. 😂

[@CorePathway]

Imagining Samuel L Jackson tonguing Ryan George is Tight!

[@majormoron605]

"Hey shut up" is prbly the standard response to any opposition or criticism uttered in any disney writers room

[@obiwon1237]

It should be a new catchphrase

[@vanpunk]

It's also my go to response to strangers when they ask me stuff. Then when they get mad I just say wow wow wow wow...... wow

[@LetThatStuffGo]

I constantly seeing people referring those untalented writers at Disney as activists... rather than actual 'writers.' 😂

[@jacsreactions2487]

"How are rings part of a DNA?" "Hey, shut up."

[@Jo_77259]

Still can't believe they spent time in the set and cgi to create that totally unecessary small scene😑

[@oliverholm3973]

Ring muscles

[@punkydamonkey989]

“Because I decided”

[@MrBrezelwurst]

I'm just thinking, since her DNA replication thing can somehow replicate things the person had worn or body modifications on the person's body... could she replicate Iron Man's suit? Bucky's arm? Nebula??? Hell, could she replicate Starlord's superpowers and become mega OP? Or would that be useless since EGO is dead?

[@HowToChangeName]

​@@MrBrezelwurstor even infinite gauntlet off Thanos hand

[@mosesmm5473]

I love how even this is the first time Ryan had to repeatedly say 'shut-up' to a questions about how Fury got the DNA and how...any of that part worked.

[@ShaneWi11iams]

And to get those powers so easily really lowered the stakes. How was the plan in any form that Nick Fury could be inside the machine. Or that Gaia would be able to beat him in a fight. A little risky and dumb with all the magic just in their DNA and powers easily accesible straight away. Another great pitch meeting 🎉👍🏻

[@Coldheart322]

I hate the general "basic DNA structure = full use and understanding of powers". She-Hulk tried going in that direction until She-Hulk pointed out how stupid that story line is. And yet here we are with a Skrull suddenly having Captain Marvel levels of power purely by replicating DNA... Really was disapointing.

[@eugenetswong]

I love the shut up shut up part. I hope that he uses that once in a while.

[@z-beeblebrox]

@@Coldheart322 I know! That's what makes it even more annoying, is that there is literally a show that happened RIGHT before this one which makes fun of exactly what they decided to do! It's one thing to do the lame trope, but it's a whole other thing to mock the lame trope AND THEN do it, lacking any and all self-awareness, right after being extremely self-aware. Insane

[@Customerbuilder]

The part at the end was the funniest. Ryan was advocating for script writers, but has built a career pointing out how idiotic scripts are.

[@Monkey-fv2km]

No matter how bad a show or movie is, it always has the silver lining of a guaranteed quality pitch meeting 👍

[@danielyrovas]

I wish he could make a pitch meeting for every movie ever

[@rakeshmalik5385]

Indeed, more often than not Ryan's pitch meetings are better than a Good Parts (tm) version of the film (also known in Hollywood as a "trailer")

[@isaiahthejet3274]

@@danielyrovas sounds like a job for AI 😉(obviously kidding please let that never happen)

[@PinataFreaks]

The weirdest part about this series is that it shows that the Kree, the villains of Captain Marvel, were kind of right about the Skrulls. Because in this series they do everything that the Kree (according to the movie wrongfully) accused them of.

[@anonanon6741]

Yes, and their behaving like that is unearned considering as Ryan said there was so many other options. They never explained the "we gave up after two years" or why a settlement was out of the question considering New Asguard's existence and that they like/have no probable with cold or freaking radiation. The US government have ever reason to kept them happy, considering how they contributed to national defense. Dumb. They also don't go into the history that kicked off the Skrull genocide. The Secret Invasion should have been a small terrorist group of Skrulls obsessed with their "proud history" as world conquerors or looking for blood retribution on the Kree home world. What they did made Nick and Carol look lazy/dishonest/stupid, almost all Skrulls at least passively evil, and the Kree 100% right. Oy.

[@niclaswa5408]

“Get off my back”

[@angelintodemonseed]

Because the Kree are heroes in the comics and the Skulls were always villains.

[@nadavwex]

The Kree are definitely not heroes@@angelintodemonseed

[@kyriss12]

@@angelintodemonseed Knee aren’t generally heroes in the comics. The Skrull, Kree, and Shi’ar empires are all generally oppressive conquerors when their not fighting amongst each other to determine who’s biggest dickhead in the galaxy. Later in they all fell apart from the inside. The Kree’s supreme intelligence AI went rampant and wiped most of them out in some massive science experiment. The Skrull got their buts handed to them during the secret invasion. The Shi’ar empire collapsed after Volcan made himself their worst emperor in a long line of bad emperors as part of his revenge against both the Shi’ar and galaxy at large.

[@Ralph_ralphster]

Congratulations Ryan George. I’m pretty sure more people watched your pitch meeting of the show than people who actually watched the show!

[@yaqinmalul6467]

BRO JUST start war💀

[@Saibot79]

You got this right. Love the marvel movies and some of the series, but saw this dude coming a mile away. You pitch meeting saved me the hassle.

[@emilyhua7223]

could be coz -- unlike vast swaths of hollywood -- ryan is an accomplished writer who people actually enjoy and want to watch... so it felt an itty bitty bit strange that he included the line about not replacing writers with ai when it's trash like 'secret invasion' that they're writing! if disney rewrote the majority of its movies post-endgame with ai i guarantee it'd be an improvement.

[@Ralph_ralphster]

Even if there is a chance of it being slightly better with ai, it still puts many people out of work (even if not many of them were good writers) I think the problem is heart. Kevin said himself he doesn’t want to hire marvel comics fans. These new projects don’t have any love or heart. In fact a vast majority of these newer projects are only made to boost Disney plus and for money (mostly the shows) Ai would only take away more of that heart. Which is why projects like GOTG films and captain America films are amazing.

[@JMetz]

I'm definitely one who would rather watch Ryan than anything Disney puts out.

[@freeguy3751]

Love the shut up shut up shut up part 🤣🤣🤣 those powers used in the season finale were so ridiculous, nailed it. Screenwriter had no defense except Shut up lol

[@JustanotherNPC8454]

The fact Giah knowing how to use those powers right away is somehow worse than Ned "having magic in his family" is impressive.

[@Tevin-MK]

that at least is "logical"@@JustanotherNPC8454

[@faisalmemon285]

Why’d you watch the show? Isn’t it apparent now that all Marvel shows are crap and gonna be crap? I just shut this show down after around 2 episodes and said I can’t watch this crap.

[@JustanotherNPC8454]

@@faisalmemon285 Because we all thought guardians 3 meant marvel was learning their lesson. Turns out we were wrong and GOTG 3 was a fluke.

[@faisalmemon285]

@@JustanotherNPC8454 I don’t understand. Did you think Guardians 3 was good or bad?

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

Two things to point out: - The Skrulls apparently blame Nick Fury, the guy without powers and working with inferior Earth tech, for everything yet don't seem to blame Captain Marvel, the "Most Powerful Avenger" who can fly at lightspeed and left with them at the end of her movie to find them a home. - If Rhody has been a Skrull in disguise since before Endgame, then that Skrull would have already been to the perfect planet for them to inhabit: Thano's farm world.

[@BradleyThomas-oc8nm]

It's noted in the series how fury basically used the skrulls to gain intel and kill off targets and what not while knowing he apparently could not a find a home for them. So basically strung them along on a false promise and used them. The main evil skrull explained how every time he killed for fury a piece of him died. His human form was also the first person he killed. Explaining how this guy had a family and what not. Guilt and rage consumed him. It has to be noted aswell as fury was a victim of the snap he probably has no idea about thanos's farm world. Captain marvel on the other hand did, so no excuse there! And with Rhodey one can only assume he was kidnapped and replaced after endgame

[@glentor3]

Hey, get off their back!

[@timewilltell7409]

It makes so much sense that an advanced species like the Skrull would rely on an inferior species to find them a planet on which to live, especially when the former is well-versed in interstellar travel and the latter is incapable of it.

[@jamesr8473]

Hey shut up

[@eveningPS4Gamer]

@@FD-mg5eo and why blame Fury?

[@eveningPS4Gamer]

@@FD-mg5eo Captain Marvel is probable off world.

[@kevinsmarts9953]

The Skrull are on the run from the Kree and hiding out on Earth because Captain Marvel and Nick Fury offered them protection there. They are not able to just go out looking for a new planet while they are being hunted down and killed by a vast galactic Empire so they don't have a better option.

[@Geraldo_Rivian]

Also they somehow managed to kidnap Warmachine yet die to bullet like normal humans...

[@lukebaker5475]

I still can’t believe that Deep Space Nine, a show from the 1990’s, did the shape-shifter spy thriller so much better than a show with a season budget of 212 million dollars and top-of-the-line cgi. If you want to watch a good Skrull TV show, watch Deep Space Nine.

[@winstonknowitall4181]

The series "Fringe" also has great shape-shifters.

[@tje210tje]

Deep cut for a PM thread. You're so right, DS9 GOAT

[@caseycanon]

"There's gonna be vigilantes running around shooting political leaders and stuff trying to find the skrulls, it's gonna be absolute chaos and paranoia!" "You know that actually sounds like a more interesting secret invasion show" Never heard anything more valid

[@earlsmith7428]

Wasn't that part of the storyline in the Secret Invasion comic book?

[@Emulcool]

This part feels like a left-over from before the reshoots and the re-runs since they had to scrap it all thanks to the russia-ukraine war . I want to believe that they had a great show and were forced to change it all ...but then i watched she-heulk and i have no more expectation for disney plus shows anymore

[@Legacyartist]

@@earlsmith7428 The comic was mostly how can we write Ironman as incompetently as possible. He kept having "panic attacks" because he didn't know if he was a Skrull and f's off to let Norman Osborn save the day. Still better then this series all things considered. I felt horrible for Hawkeye and the Black Panther tie in was solid proof as to why you don't mess with Wakanda.

[@rogerrodriguessilveira8162]

​@@earlsmith7428 No, not the vigilantes killing random people because they think they're skulls. It's more about the superheroes trying to figuring out which is which and trying to keep everything under control. Also, their goal is to take over the human race, not destroy it. And the comics didn't reveal instantly who is a skrull or not...

[@dakat5131]

...so naturally that part is crammed into like 2 minutes at the end of the series instead of occupying a larger portion.

[@roygalazka6523]

An idea better than working with the Asgardians is Thanos' garden planet. Captain Marvel reported that there were no other life forms, other than him, on the planet and now that Thanos is dead, I don't understand why they couldn't move the Skrulls to this planet, which was teeming with life. Edit: I meant sentient life when I said the Garden was devoid of life. Sorry for the mixup.

[@Lavonne9870]

Red alert! We have someone using logic over here! Bring the straight jacket.

[@jdco8831]

if there were no other life forms other than Thanos was there, how could it be "teeming with life"?

[@dhayes5143]

​@@jdco8831 This starts to go down the rabbit hole of 'What was the cutoff for The Snap/did it kill half of everyone's gut bacteria?' etc. Once you stop to think about definitions or criteria for any kind of scientific consistency, the MCU falls apart. And that goes for when it was good too.

[@xitaris5981]

​@@jdco8831 If you can't put together how a *_Garden Planet_* is teeming with life when Captain Marvel reported no other life forms then maybe it's safe to assume Captain Marvel had some implicit qualifiers to her statement. i.e. "no other life forms [that could pose a threat to us]" or "no other [sentient] life forms" or "no other [complex] life forms" Of course I'm assuming you watched End Game and saw all the vegetation on the planet.

[@jdco8831]

@@xitaris5981 yeah, i get what you were try to say. actually, i've always found that Captain Marvel line to be awkward, seeing as it is a garden planet after all.

[@Arko777777]

It's even funnier when you realize that Skrull Rhodey was on the garden planet where Thanos was hiding, and didn't tell his people about this cozy, uninhabited planet that sustains life left and right.

[@sheridanroad2001]

Maybe the fact that Captain Marvel deliberately didn't tell the Skrulls about this potential new home was the trigger for rebellion? Obviously that is giving the Writers too much credit, but it would of made sense!

[@jdco8831]

@@sheridanroad2001 if Skrull Rhodey made it there, would it have mattered if Carol Danvers didn't tell them? the war was for them to get a new home for the Skrulls right?

[@sheridanroad2001]

@@jdco8831 But presumably Danvers didn't know Rhodey was a Skrull. So they would know she wasn't keeping her end of their deal with the Skrulls, hence the war.

[@xitaris5981]

@@sheridanroad2001 but they can just go to the planet... who starts a war with an entire planet just because one individual didn't keep their promise?

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

​@@sheridanroad2001Who cares,free real state.They can get their revenge later.

[@AHopelessLegoFan]

So thankful to Disney for providing Ryan with content

[@PenguinLord10]

This is the kind of positive thinking the world needs more of.

[@turbkeysamdwich1880]

This video is the best part of secret invasion.

[@RdnFikri]

Based on Guardians of the Galaxy, there are many planets kinda better than Earth, even in Endgame, we got Thanos living in a beautiful planet alone. But based on Secret Invasion, we got no planet as good as Earth. Wow wow wow.. wow

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

I mean, the great evolutionary from gotg3 did base his pet projects on earth.

[@Gorbz]

Ant Man 3 showed an entire ecosystem in the microverse. They could just shrink down and live there instead without having to look at the billion billion worlds that are out there.

[@emperordragon1794]

@@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou. high evolutionary used earth as a base model for our culture and stuff not earth the habitable planet. Skrull already have their own culture and everything. They just wanted a habitable planet. Giah's Nick Fury also says, take this harvest. get powers. move offworld. kill other civilization or whatever but leave earth. As in, if they can do interstellar travel, they can either find empty habitable planet or just kill and conquer another alien civilization.

[@akosbarati2239]

It was a lie. He started in-universe Phase II because of the Asgardians and made the Skrulls harvest DNA just so he can soup up other humans in case the Skrulls would turn on him. He didn't have a good measure against the Skrulls so he tried to gaslight them into staying hidden.

[@kevinsmarts9953]

None of the other ones are protected by the Avengers and Captain Marvel. Their problem isn't how habitable or beautiful a planet is, its whether the Kree will find it and kill them all.e Sc

[@dabatman5187]

This is the closest I’ve gotten to watching new MCU stuff

[@LV426Resident]

Guardians 3?

[@designtechdk]

Same

[@AlexLusth]

Too true my friend....too true

[@Deondre_Clark]

Same

[@LembeckIsStaying]

​@@LV426Resident Nope

[@theomaddox5309]

What he said at 1:23 about how they should have used the fact that anyone could be a skrull to create tension was my biggest problem with the show. In good spy thrillers, the protagonist and the audience don't know who to trust, and that should be taken to another level by the presence of shapeshifting aliens who can impersonate anyone.

[@genericname2747]

Heck, Spiderman Far From Home did this with Mysterio

[@colemacgrath2005]

@@genericname2747fr real, Mysterio even pretended to be fury, we could have so many scenes where we think we’re following the main protagonist but he turns out to be gravik or nick goes to talk to talos and it turns out it’s another skrull impersonating talos

[@JustanotherNPC8454]

Peacemaker season 1 is a better secret invasion than secret invasion.

[@genericname2747]

@@colemacgrath2005 Right?? What If did it better too. One episode has Loki briefly pretend to be Nick Fury. And they do a good job foreshadowing it in my opinion.

[@AvatarWindy]

Don’t forget The Winter Soldier - some of the best parts and scenes of that movie come from Cap, Natasha, and Fury all not knowing who to trust!

[@TheDarthpsi]

I am freaking impressed on how you could summarize and dump on this show AND the writers strike in just under 7 mins. You're not using AI, are you?

[@matttipton6009]

“Hey shut up!”

[@MollyHJohns]

No. He's been doing this way longer than that.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

If this is the best they can manage consistently maybe they should just get replaced with AI. The quality would probably be about the same.

[@WaterShowsProd]

I've been language monitoring a job for a middleman client for Google, listening to people read stories written by A.I. and I can tell you this for certain: A.I. written stories are painfully awful. Can't wait for this project to be over.

[@jamaicaqueens22]

That ending should've been what sets off this new phase. Humans and Skrulls getting killed innocent or guilty could've been a movie in itself.

[@snukastyle]

For a while it was going to be. I recall reading about the Skull Kill Crew getting some kind of adaptation, but that was some time ago.

[@austynross]

I mean comic book secret invasion was as big a story as the infinity war, so.... you know... Why not just chop that up in to 6, ½ hour episodes and call it a day? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@skadoomosadi1411]

😂😂😂Exactly

[@HeyItsHarsh]

well that idea makes too much sense for Marvel to incorporate lol

[@jamaicaqueens22]

@@austynross Fam it wrote itself 😂😂😂That ending could've lead to an entire Skrull saga. MAJOR miss on Marvels part

[@MitridatedCarbon]

You know, considering how big and complex space in the MC is, it is kinda weird how the skrulls can't find one single planet to inhabit. Like go on Titan since nobody lives there, or ask the Nova corps for protection instead of one random human.

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

Don’t think the Nova Corps can help after Thanos destroyed them to get the power stone, but yeah, there’s a lot of planets they could have gone to. Also, where is Captain Marvel? All that time in space since the 90s, I assume she would have already scout out numerous potential habitable worlds for the Skrulls, considering she was willing to go to war with the Kree for them.

[@coyoteone6197]

​@@alexanderchristopher6237And speaking of Captain Marvel, why aren't any of the Skrulls mad at her? Between her and Nick Fury, why is the non-spacefaring agent guy the one who's at fault for not finding a terraformable planet?

[@fenriswhispers]

What ever happened to the planet Thanos was killed on. You know his farm the completely uninhibited paradise planet. I mean hell captain marvel was there and could of easily told the skrulls about it. Dear gods the writers are so bad it makes me side with A.I. writers. A.I. Can't be worse then what we got now.

[@fairystail1]

heck ask the Guardians. their whole things is exploring space and helping people. There is no way they wouldn't know of one planet that has free space. Or just go to a planet that Thanos had committed half genocide on.

[@Tachii31]

One of the things I've seen people mention is...with the timeline of how long a Skrull has been impersonating Rhodey, they totally know of other uninhabited planets they could live on.

[@1Grumpymonk]

Im so embarassed FOR Disney. Ryan roasting the snot outta them just by telling us the plot 😂. Super easy, barely an inconvenience 👌

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

Disney: "... hey shut up" * but very hurt lol*

[@ahappyklingon3631]

And yet you haters still line up at the movie theater for every MCU film and always watch every MCU series. 😅 then you go and watch crap like Avatar and continue to make Disney billions. Disney can't hear all the whining and cries with the trillions of dollars they make every year cause you 😅😅 . So many people hated SheHulk but still watched every episode 😅

[@1Grumpymonk]

@@ahappyklingon3631 projecting much? What a schizo post 😬

[@ahappyklingon3631]

@@1Grumpymonk and yet I don't hear you saying I'm wrong 🤷🤣😅 so...yeah 😅🤣

[@jndvs95]

​@@ahappyklingon3631actually, if you look at the viewing numbers and domestic numbers for Disney, they are hurting pretty bad in the U.S. and it has only been getting worse.

[@777Looper]

1:23 is absolute gold. Perfect delivery. Perfect implementation. Change nothing.

[@langadube9611]

If the Skrulls wanted a planet why not use the one Thanos chose to retire on. The Rhodey Skrull was even there.

[@CreativeCache101]

"hey shut up"

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

​@@CreativeCache101haha

[@nathanmiller9918]

The Kree know about it too.

[@frankiefrank6850]

“There are no other planets” What in the fuck are you talking about. There’s less than a million of us just do a press round saying “hey, these are interplanetary refugees. Don’t kill them on sight”

[@SilverSoul255]

Or whatever was left of Xandar. Or ask the Guardians for help

[@JoshLange3D]

The tough thing about Secret Invasion bombing so hard is that it makes it even harder to prove it could have worked out better as an entire film phase.

[@Redmenace96]

Sam Jackson is like 72 years old. Start a new franchise with that?

[@JoshLange3D]

@@Redmenace96 good point. Could be cool to see him die in the last phase movie, saving his wife maybe. Great way to go out

[@SpartanSprinkles]

​@Redmenace96 they should have had Maria Hill's character fleshed out to the point where mid-way through a SI movie phase, you could kill off Fury and have her as a strong enough point-woman. But nah

[@tyler2813]

@@SpartanSprinklesespecially since Maria Hill is HBIC in the comics and always takes over after fury. They could have used her for a long long time but just didn’t fit shock value lol

[@MrCrucifer]

I mean currently the Secret Invasion movie is still a scheduled release so maybe it will work better if it gets made

[@Earthslastlegend]

Ryan has captured the essence of Disney's operations flawlessly. This may even be a 100% accurate reenactment of how the show actually was made😂!

[@gurneyhalleck1127]

I'd give it at least an 80% chance of being more than 93% accurate.

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

I immediately lost interest when they complained they didnt find a planet for them. Immediately thought of the planet thanos went to. Why didnt they send them there? They know its uninhabited. They know its livable. But nope. The plot needed everyone to forget that fact. For reasons.

[@Kevin_Kennelly]

Hey, shut up.

[@stringer2295]

I have inside knowledge that that’s how it really happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kaltaron1284]

@@gurneyhalleck1127 78% of the statistics mentioned on the internet people just pulled out of their behind.

[@Philaster3000]

As usual, you absolutely nailed it. SI should have been rife with paranoia and suspense in a show where literally everybody could be someone else. How was that not the main theme? The MCU is wearing itself out by continually telling world-ending stories, they need to take a break and narrow down to smaller, more personal issues.

[@greywolf7577]

I agree they should have done more of it, but if they did it too much then the Skrulls would be too powerful. I guess there are ways around it by having the characters ask each other questions that only the real character would know.

[@mkvv5687]

@@greywolf7577...and give them a blood test.

[@akshatkadam3784]

"Heyshutup" has gotta be one of the best new additions to the dialogue roster. That rapid fire takedown of the final CGI fight was soo funny

[@ethanlivemere1162]

I love the little "but-" Producer Guy makes. He's been doing that more as well.

[@saar144]

It is not new though

[@Sir_psylok]

Its great but he's been saying this for years

[@akshatkadam3784]

@@Sir_psylok Heyshutup

[@Sir_psylok]

Hahahah, nice🤣 @@akshatkadam3784

[@edwardp7725]

Usually the Pitch Meetings poke some fun and point out some plot holes, but this one went HARD . You shredded this show, and rightly so.

[@WolvenSpectre]

You know a show has problems when you know of issues not mentioned in the script meeting and learned whole new ones.

[@vincelupo8419]

To be fair, Ryan has done pitch meetings for tight movies and not so good meetings. He really can do it for anything. Every movie has flaws to point out. Just because Ryan made a pitch meeting for something doesn't mean the show/movie is bad content. Yes I do end up looking at some content differently now because of pitch meetings but I still enjoyed Secret Invasion despite some flaws.

[@WolvenSpectre]

@@vincelupo8419 didn't mean to imply that he only did it for bad movies, but imply that while it had good bones Secret Invasion was a disappointing shambling corpse and that THIS pitch meeting only scratched the surface.

[@firefighter17687]

Ryan as a writer deserves all the money. Who ever wrote secret invasion needs to find another line of work lol

[@genericname2747]

They're getting paid to just vomit up ideas. I wish I could get millions of dollars to just write random stuff

[@williamking256]

Nepo-babies don't get fired. Look at Jonathon Kasden.

[@luxel3365]

Maybe they did found different line of work. Maybe what Ryan hinted at the end is correct, it's an AI script. Zero consistency, no setup or payoff, doesn't follow any of the acceptable writing conventions. It can't be a functioning thinking human being with a PAYING JOB that come up with this kind of sht, except maybe nepotism.

[@scorpionlord9175]

which is why i have very little sympthahy for the writers strike. they demand demand demand...........then just pump out garbage? you know who deserves to be paid more? people that write stuff like Arcane, House of the Dragons and such. the issue is people are getting hired for no other reason than participation trophies or "diversity" and actual good writers arent getting the jobs, the result is people with no imagination are writing garbage crap.

[@Bleg94]

@@scorpionlord9175 this also did you look up the demands? they include things like "for every project there need to be a certain amount of writers hired, no matter if they are needed or not" and if I understood that right they also basically want showrunners to be banned from the set so that the writers can make the fine-tuning in case the weather doesn't fit or whatever

[@NontpNonjo]

The dejected "I know." after that bit about paying fair wages was so funny. I'm glad nothing like that is going on in REAL life. What a funny and creative bit, Ryan.

[@mikfly]

Ryan’s material is always hilarious, but that bit? That bit was masterclass. Way to go man, you’ve hit the ceiling. YOU’VE HIT, THE CEILING. Barely an inconvenience tho.

[@scribbles1424]

Do the writers really deserve better wages for making stuff like this?

[@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831]

@@scribbles1424 yes. The writer of the only objectively good she hulk episode got paid $14

[@alexmikhylov]

@@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831 1st I'm pretty sure that's bullshit, 2nd there were no good episodes in She Hulk

[@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831]

@@alexmikhylov I actually didn’t mind she hulk, I definitely think it’s overhated. Even when I didn’t see it’s quality, I never thought episode 8 was bad. It had the best law scene in the show, best action, funniest lines, made Jen a character for a bit and had the best lines and overall story.

[@ahmedfouzan2018]

So technically, Asgardians are also enemies now. The writers didn't gave any thought to what they were writing.

[@BaithNa]

As usual This is exactly why the AMPTP think they can replace the WGA with A.I.

[@Gottem_1]

Gosh Darn it I just commented this

[@surlycanadian]

Technically. But believe it or not, the US doesn’t rule the world and New Asgard is in Norway.

[@greasybumpkin1661]

When the Skrulls were like "yeah we can take Earth" and yeah sure they can take NATO I bet but wtf are they going to do with New Asgard? Wakanda? (Who now have an neutral-ally nobody knows about) the 3 Sanctums? The secret Mythical Chinese place I don't fucking remember because that film was boring. They've got their work cut out for them is what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure if Wakanda can fend off the Black Order then skrulls are going to get their shit pushed in.

[@zhando1576]

@@greasybumpkin1661 I think that was the point of the whole Super Skrull deal. They/Gravik wanted a way to deal with the superheroes. As seen on the show, they were more than capable of infiltrating/taking over regular humans, but if Hulk were to punch them real hard there isn't anything they can do. Although, that makes me think; why did they not take over the President? Sure, it would not be easy, but Skrull-Rhodey could slowly but surely make sure all of the bodyguards get replaced by Skrulls, and then they basically have a free shot at the President. No need to do the big plot of starting world war 3, when they can litterally just replace someone high up and nuke the world like that.

[@matthewsharpe393]

After so many terrible shows, I feel like this is more an accurate representation of Disney's pitch meetings than it is parody

[@fuzzyotterpaws4395]

Except She-Hulk. She-Hulk was AMAZING! I looked forward to a new episode every week because the 4th wall breaks and meta humor and just general humor too were HILARIOUS!

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

​@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I'm gonna have to 🛑 stop you THERE. THAT was more sarcasm than I could handle. 😉

[@Alexander_Stern1]

Are they really “terrible”, though? Aren’t they more “mediocre”? “Secret Invasion” started well and it featured some solid performances. No Marvel project (outside of “Inhumans”) has been really bad. Just disappointing. And, at least for me, the disappointment has usually been in hindsight. I’ve never not enjoyed a Marvel film or series while I’ve been watching it. In the moment, it’s always fun.

[@shadowofdimentio4618]

A bunch of stuff has ruined stuff and left people with nothing to even remember fondly. So I’d say it is bad. If you still enjoy it that’s fine, but calling it mediocre is kind of wrong. I’d watch stuff like Transformers over this. I’d need examples of ‘bad’ tv that isn’t like The Room to put these over those. And there’s a chance they’ve ruined less characters

[@RahulPatel-og2ke]

I would really just say this show and she hulk were terrible. The rest were pretty enjoyable with a mediocre one here and there.

[@dunstonlion1342]

That ending was both brutal and much deserved. Well played!

[@cssghostPL]

I like it how years ago i was watching pitch meetings to see the stuff i missed like jokes or nonsense. Now i watch pitch meetings for the stuff i'm glad i'm missing. All that is left is nonsense. Thanks Ryan.

[@8tonystark8]

Best thing about post-Endgame MCU are the pitch meetings. Thank you, Gyan Reorge!

[@tiredoffools8929]

@8tonystark8...I'd argue best thing post Infinity War. MCU has continued to get worse ever since. Endgame is massively overrated.

[@abatter]

While you mentioned fake Fury faking radioactive poisoning, I just wish you'd brought up the humans the Skrulls kept captive at their radioactive base who seemed to suffer no ill effects from radioactivity despite their long stays on the base.

[@davidm4566]

Dude I never even thought of that. How many months or years had those humans been in a radioactive environment and had no problems?!

[@racool911]

Just assumed it was an isolated chamber, but I can't be bothered to check

[@matthewgialdini6411]

“Hey shut up”

[@Easy_Skanking]

There's more holes than cheese in this crap sandwich.

[@Red6er]

I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back about it...

[@SARDiverDave]

I know certain things are expected in every one of these. Catch phrases, etc. The kicker is that the timing of them, and the delivery never lets them get old, and the new content and pacing is absolutely brilliant. I look forward to every one of these.

[@Pranaynaynay]

It's so funny that the first of post endgame MCU content, WandaVision, was so intent on keeping people guessing from week to week, not revealing too much about the plot. and NOW with the actual plot that requires secrecy and subversion and plot twists, they can't even be bothered

[@jahcode6132]

Shout out to writer guy for continuing to work during the strike. Really shows his dedication to the craft. Producer guy must be a great boss that definitely doesn't only care about money.

[@kaltaron1284]

And would never replace him with AI. Well, as long as writer guy costs less than AI.

[@tehweh8202]

Producer guy could use that weird Ai reporter from the one episode of "The 90's Show". It has an astonishing similarity to script writer guy for some inexplicable reason.

[@the_SolLoser]

Well, to be fair, this show was written and produced before the strikes.

[@stephenkrahling1634]

idek if writer guy was here judging by how bad the show was

[@solan7978]

The real-life writer of "Secret Wars" deserves to be unemployed.

[@maulcs]

Seriously though, the extended "hey shut up" bit was pure gold

[@danielgraven3607]

Shout out to Ryan George for sitting through this entire show to come up with the pitch meetings! Seems super difficult, definitely an inconvenience

[@LuisFigo4]

I rarely watch any of these shows or movies anymore, just wait for pitch meeting

[@dont-touch-mepg1392]

Lol same. Same.

[@mikeontheisland]

DITTO!

[@TornAaPaRt]

Hey same here 😅 sometimes I look more forward to the pitch meeting than the actual show/movie lol

[@extantsanity]

Same.

[@mattc9598]

i think most people stopping watching the MCU after the MCU ended... with Endgame... but Disney saw $$$ and decided to continue the MCU despite almost every important character retiring

[@WritingSecrets]

This may be one of my favorite pitch meetings of all time! At this point, I think studios should pay Ryan a premium to screen their films. And that last rant about AI is both terrifying and hilarious.

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

"You could pay humans a living wage for all those jobs you just mentioned..." "You sound insane, we don't do that now!" *deeply sad* "I know..."

[@danjager6200]

@@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield You have to wonder about their accounting department. 200 million for six episodes and people would rather watch anime. An episode of anime costs 250,000 US Dollars. Imagine if Disney had used that money to make animated marvel content targeted at kids and other animated content targeted at older audiences. The financial disconnect here is unimaginable.

[@hazukichanx408]

@@danjager6200 No no no, that's not how it works. Every board member knows, the more money you pour into a hole, the more money comes out. If it doesn't, you didn't pour enough marketing money in on top. This is the only conceivable pattern of big money blockbustering, to pour millions and millions of dollars in a hole and millions more to market the thing, and then everyone will give you back even more, forever. Even if they can't afford food and rent! Ain't it peculiar.

[@yourfriendlyinternetmeatshield]

@@danjager6200 I honestly hope they tried to use Chatgpt secretly, and just throw money at it, expecting a proof on concept, and somehow, despite all the countless involved, as obviously how poor the product was going to be, they just yes manned a paycheck. I wonder what Samuel L Jackson thinks about it all. Probably "*stares in motherfuckerly, and expected inevitable disappointment *" friggin contracts right? Maybe he'll get some sort of redemption for the character down the line...

[@MyWasteOfTime]

Does Marvel just ask themselves, "What are the worst possible shows we could ever make?" And then make those?

[@skwills1629]

They Auto-Mat Them nowadays. refabricated plotlines.

[@MegaKnight2012]

"Yes" "Well, okay then"

[@favoritemustard3542]

It's like the Hollywood version of participation awards.

[@matthewmosier8439]

The notebooks got mixed up. They mistakenly went with the "best bad ideas" folder from the 2017 Christmas party ice breaker excersize 😮

[@ipraytovodka]

i mean....overall secret invasion shouldve been a great show and/or movie but they just failed miserably at the implementation

[@reptile1687]

the fact they decided to condense a huge event comic that featured many super heroes down to a mini series with a limited cast was already a red flag to me

[@fortcastellan1730]

As much as I appreciate the "Hey, shut up" line, I've really grown to love Producer-Guy's quarter-second-random-noise-of-confusion that cuts cut off when the camera cuts away from him. That really captures how these shows feel about continuity and reason...

[@JonathonFyck]

“He’s gonna meet up with Maria Hill” “It’ll be cool to dive into that partnership a little more” “Yeah so she dies pretty much right away” That part shocked me while watching that episode, they really didn’t want to dive into that partnership😂

[@dont-touch-mepg1392]

So the alien race with faster then light speed want a bunch of monkeys to find them a new planet AND NOT the one they found Thanos on with his farm or his old one or the one guardians of the galaxy found!

[@ameyskulkarni]

​@@dont-touch-mepg1392Or even any of the hundreds, or thousands of empty planets/moons/dwarf planets in the solar system itself.

[@vitmir9099]

​@@dont-touch-mepg1392Yes, Cap Marv Can!

[@vitmir9099]

So, she was right after all 😅

[@MogajiMohammed]

​@@dont-touch-mepg1392good point but the planet in Gotg got destroyed

[@skullkingdom9972]

That pitch meeting was better than the whole show

[@kb9746]

2:21 "So he wants superpowers and WW3 and also like, a HOUSE," 🤣💀💀💀 That 3rd item being the hardest to get...

[@TheLordmep]

It's sad that we've reached the point where reviews and drama are more interesting than the shows and movies they're about.

[@georgethomas4567]

This entire series needed a sticker attached to it saying, "We clearly have no clue what we're doing! Prepare to be disappointed, Yet somehow still feel cheated!" At the start of every episode.

[@ELeeHamm]

So did the last Star Wars trilogy.

[@addex1236]

Really that's everything Hollywood is making these days

[@randomselfimprovementchann1304]

yall are so fucking pessimistic, this show was awesome yall are just trying so hard to hate it, fucking losers

[@BelaSkriva]

Your comment made me think about the apology at the beginning of the Lord of Ring: Gollum game. >-

[@nahor88]

The funny thing is I've seen A LOT of comments on social media saying they liked the show in response to the Rotten Tomatoes score aside from the finale. I thought it was OK overall, but felt WAY too small scale for such a huge storyline in the comics. Secret Invasion needed to be saved for the next Avengers level threat after Kang.

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

As always Ryan somehow managed to get his hands on a recording of the actual Pitch meeting for a show. Someday soon he will have to explain how he manages to sneak in there.

[@watermelonhead42]

Hey shuddup!

[@samcochran8203]

Actually how he gets in there is super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@uranuslad9855]

Shapeshifting.

[@ronyorobio7096]

Overdose of "Hey, shut up". THANK YOU! Also, great ending mentioning the AI and how logical it is to use it

[@shadowbat2095]

I didn’t watch Secret Invasion, but as I heard all of the many, many criticisms people had with it, I became super excited for the eventual Pitch Meeting. And man, this did not disappoint.

[@TheYuke]

That last part about AI was spot on and hilarious but at the same time really depressing

[@hariman7727]

Half of the issue is that the woke hiring practice of nepotism and hiring based on politics/membership in a supported group made Hollywood writing so shitty that it's barely distinguishable from AI.

[@32BitJunkie]

There's always that one weirdo trying to make everything about wokeness

[@hariman7727]

@@32BitJunkie yeah, they're on the staff, forcing movies to have perfect "diverse" characters and refusing to allow their pet characters to have flaws.

[@Larry_Ibarra]

Music labels are already planning on using AI to "write" pop songs. As if modern day pop songs weren't generic and soulless enough already.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

After Pitch guy explaining the show, who really thinks he deserves to be paid MORE? 😄 Script writers these days are so hilariously bad that people often speculate if AI isn't used ALREADY to create scripts.

[@JohannesWiberg]

This is the most devastating pitch meeting in a while. Ryan's videos have never been solely cinema-sins-y nitpicking the script but rather poking fun at the often insane production process. So a disastrous project like this is a perfect subject.

[@confusionandcreation6036]

Ryan's reaction when AI was mentioned is the validation I've been craving

[@javiermauricio8377]

You forgot to mention than Captain Marvel DOES know about a nice, big, empty habitable planet, you know, the one where Thanos retrated after the events of Infinity War. Also, you know, they could try sending small groups of skrulls to the planets shown through out the different movies.

[@EzioAuditoredaFirenze]

Excellent point, yikesssss

[@kevinsmarts9953]

The Skrull are being hunted by the Kree, one of the things any planet needs is for it to be safe. Where Thanos was might be right in the heart of Scree territory for all we know.

[@Geraldo_Rivian]

​@@kevinsmarts9953 it's Kree not scree

[@kevinsmarts9953]

@@Geraldo_Rivian Like Nick Fury, I'm old and my brain has turned to mush

[@Kspice9000]

Ooooo I dis-plain that one. "Well in end game. They killed last Thanos so therefore it doesn't exist since past Thanos never had the glove long enough to snap and create it" "But then wouldn't there be be no need to bring everyone back since he went to the future?" "Quite being a misogynist."

[@jonathanbohl]

This is definitely one of those shows when he points out of the flaws you don't go, "yeah but it was good." You go, "yeah it wasn't good."

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

This 6 and half minute pitch meeting was more entertaining and well-thought out than the entire season of Secret Invasion

[@jjutt87]

Damn. That was a season? I was hoping it was a movie I haven't heard of..

[@last7509]

hey shuddup

[@SirsasthNigam.]

That's accurate considering other directors were inserting their own Secret Invasion in the series combined with lack of creative freedom for director and 2nd director leaving the series and reshoots , deleted scenes and cuts

[@Jvilleshore5858]

This is the first Pitch Meeting I've watched without actually having seen the real show/movie first. It absolutely did not disappoint.

[@ryckarduhryckarduh180]

The great thing about this plot is that it references historical events, I mean who could forget that time when a british ship crashed on an island filled with barbaric tribesmen and then the british said "now you guys need to find a way for us to go back"

[@barbaro267]

Why does this sound like the incident of the Nisero in 1883? 😂

[@anubis8586]

Huh? Care to explain, I think I’m missing something. Genuinely asking lol

[@blackosprey2219]

​@@anubis8586he is comparing the skrulls depending on technologically inferior humans to the crew of a british naval ship asking isolated island tribesmen to build them a ship and send them back to their home country, most likely to highlight the absurdity of the skrulls' behavior.

[@IAmMightyMike]

I love that Nick has a whole suit up scene just to shoot Rhodey in the face

[@FenixForever]

Aw man, I shot Rhodie in the face

[@carloscordova7873]

​@@FenixForevernice 👌

[@richmcgee434]

In fairness, it'd be kind of creepy if Fury just shot him while standing there naked.

[@astrapsy]

@@richmcgee434 youre right I hadnt considered this. This saves the show for me, phew

[@extramile.5yago]

It's like Talos was the one who formed the Avengers as Nick Fury because Nick Definitely didn't care about his fallen Comrades.

[@muhammadfaisal5Y5]

I have been waiting for this. The show set itself on an impossible task. Being Spy Thriller because it is advertised as that and fans are expecting it as that while at the same time, telling a different story. Being self-contained while setting up major future events and changing MCU history simultaneously. Being a story about Nick Fury while making it about the Skrulls. Being about Skrull invasion while trying not to come across as avoiding Captain Marvel side of the conflict. Being about humans fighting human conflicts while setting up a big superpowered showdown.

[@tonymarselle8812]

Peacemaker did it. With dance scenes, gore and lots of heart. In a world we’re that show exists there are no excuses for such lazy story telling.

[@muhammadfaisal5Y5]

@tonymarselle8812 With Secret Invasion, it is obvious they are attempting to do different things at once. The final episode was so bad, Kingsley Ben Adir did a good job considering his role in the scene was just to shout at Samuel Jackson.

[@vishalb777]

Thing about them bleeding purple is it was shown twice in the show that Skrulls can bleed red. In the first episode skrull Ross falls off a building and bleeds red, and in a later episode, a skrull's finger gets cut off and it bleeds red before reverting to the skrull form

[@BradleyThomas-oc8nm]

I can only assume the blood is red until the tissue/host is dead? I can't remember with the finger scene, was the blood on the stump also red, or only on the severed finger once it turned back to a skrull finger? I'm not defending just discussing

[@justforever96]

​@@BradleyThomas-oc8nmor it just doesn't make sense and they don't care.

[@jaerogoth]

That moment when you realize that the pitch meeting is better than the show the pitch meeting is about.

[@Patbla417]

Wow wow wow

[@saar144]

That is almost always the case

[@tobystewart4403]

@@Patbla417 wow

[@jasonfitzpatrick2197]

Buddy, this is true A LOT

[@mrtubakapro2949]

i mean… some exceptions do exist like Top Gun: Maverick

[@MasterTSayge]

5:55 I DIED!! "YOU SOUND INSANE! WE DON'T DO THAT NOW!!! "

[@usamabhanbhro6482]

Why'd they do that? If they can get it done for free.

[@KJasonV]

06:00 "I know." Man, I felt that.

[@oscarmarek7746]

3:14 “we can’t rely on superheroes all the time” said a Hollywood exec relying on making superhero content

[@chrommain7013]

That last bit was hilarious 😂 You should make like a special episode about the writers strike with a back and forth between screenwriter guy and producer guy!

[@Sorain1]

I agree, it could absolutely work. Heck, double up on both sides and have the pitch meetings of the strike from both sides of it.

[@chomp7927]

I'd really love to hear the part where someone writes a few episodes of garbage TV a year and thinks they should be able to live comfortably off that tiny bit of work, or how they think that ungodly price raise wont drive them right out of the market. Maybe we could even hear a bit about pampered actresses bitching and moaning about a few long days of work while they sit in their trailers and tents while they work less hours than almost any other set hand while making dozens or hundreds of times their pay. OOOO we could even put a part in about how somehow all these people who get paid up front and risk zero of their own dollars manage to churn out something that loses a company tens or even hundreds of millions of dollars and then they all think that they are owed money for the rest of their life for some reason. Man that would be interesting as heck!

[@freman007]

I don't think Ryan wants to crack open that can of worms. He does this for fun, not to upset people.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

@@chomp7927 1. It is the right of every single human to live confortably. If you are human, then you are entitled to a confortable life. Your subjective opinion on theior work does not matter. 2. Did you just called actresses, who are still put under extremelly unconfortable situations, and still fcing sexual harrasment, pampered? If yes, then you are insane. 3. Please, you dont care about people making hundreds of times more money then others without putting in the work. You just dont. At all. If you did, you would have been on the side of the strikers.

[@haileym5912]

I actually was sad when Talos died because the bantering with him and Fury was great they were such a good friendship and I liked him he was so snarky and they killed him

[@CAMELFLAM]

People are looking to hate everything. I found the whole thing, essentially a waste, but it had its moment

[@anonanon6741]

Me too, which is another reason I was so mad about Secret Invasion. Talos' conflict is so much more interesting than Fury's. There should never be a doubt in anyone's mind about Fury valuing saving humanity above all else. Talos on the other hand has multiple loyalties pulling him in multiple directions. He has his love of his daughter vs his love of Fury. He has his duty to his people vs the people of the two humans who saved his family and offered him sanctuary. Killing him off and with so little impact 2/3s of the way through was garbage.

[@canesugar911]

@@anonanon6741 get over it.

[@intergalactic92]

Talos basically carried the entire show. Ben Mendelsohn was so good. Even if you had forgotten his role in Captain Marvel he did enough to make you care about him and his struggle…… he was probably the only vaguely interesting part about the show, and my interest died along with him.

[@MegaKnight2012]

This feels scarily accurate to how this show's pitch meeting probably went

[@finndelimatamay1983]

I'm glad to see Ryan acknowledging the real production process behind these products at the end of the video. The structure of Pitch Meetings implies that these terrible shows/movies were just made up by a writer some day, and not churned through a repeatedly retconned re-shot Frankenstein's-monster process by an executive committee that's never happy. His audience needs to be made aware of that.

[@3MrNiceGuy15]

When you think about how great the MCU was back when phase two started compared to now, it's so disappointing how bad things have gotten over the past 10 years

[@trentb3148]

Past 10 years? That's 2013. Like, other than Iron Man 1 and Avengers 1, literally all the best MCU stuff came after that point.

[@3MrNiceGuy15]

@@trentb3148 Yes I can do math. It all went downhill after phase 2. They started prioritizing quantity over quality.

[@Adamdidit]

​@trentb3148 Yeah they did say *over the past 10 years*. Not that it was a hard line.

[@xitaris5981]

@@trentb3148 Well the MCU peaked in 2018, so it's been going steadily down hill for at least 5 years. And yes, I know End Game was 2019, but let's face it, it was worse than Infinity War and they started introducing a lot of the worst ideas that started plaguing phase 4 and 5

[@Emilia_Inkheart]

@@xitaris5981 yes, 100%. Infinity War was a perfect buildup and EndGame just honestly ruined it. It felt like a cheap way to try and cope with the fact that Marvel never knows how to undo the tension they build up. And the five-year gap was the single worst decision they ever made. Completely fucked the entire timeline for no reason. They even stoped pretending they could tell us who did and didn't snap in the new movies.

[@SeraphArmaros]

I really, really appreciate being able to come here and learn everything I need to know about a show I have no interest in watching. You're doing good work saving all us the time we would've wasted.

[@samuelbahr197]

Ryan never disappoints. I do miss the “get AAAAAWWLLLLL the way off my back about it” gag though.

[@ryshow9118]

Let me get off of that thing

[@SoNobodyToldYaBaby]

hey, shut up.

[@sexydictator3241]

It'll probably be back next week.

[@Ro9ge]

I...it was in the video, though? At 3:40? Unless you meant you miss it being more drawn out, instead of done faster like it was there.

[@whincorbin1553]

Dont

[@elevatordancer]

I watched the first episode and realized that Pitch Meeting was the best way to get the story without hurting myself. Thank you for your sacrifice, Mr. George, and thanks to anyone who may or may not work with him to produce these videos!! If you have student loans, this job should qualify for public service loan forgiveness, in my opinion.

[@PopcornedPlanet]

This is the most accurate pitch meeting ever... This show and that super skrull end battle was a literal jump the shark moment for Marvel. There aren't many times I miss making Honest Trailers, but Secret Invasion was one I REALLY wanted to roast. Glad you did it so well :)

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

Literal? You mean someone actually jumped a shark, Fonzie style?

[@genericname2747]

​@@AWMJoeyjoejoeActually, I think seeing a Skrull jump over a shark would redeem the show

[@paradoxlaboratories8005]

That part about AI at the end hits deep. Human talent has often gone underpaid and under appreciated and nowadays it’s being cut out completely.

[@freman007]

If they have real talent they'll still be hired. If they're so bad that AI can replace them, then it should.

[@guestimator121]

As far as I understood, the writers in the union get 1000 bucks per day (the lowest amount), up to one million per year (on average). I wouldn't call that "underpaid" by any standards, and that's if the movie does not get into production. They have some weird contracts, so Hollywood producers simply decided to let their contracts expire i.e. not do any movies based on those scripts and just hire new people so they would stop paying them for doing literally no work. I refuse to simp for people giving us these retarded shows like secret invasion, Witcher Season 3 and getting paid millions of dollars per year for it. AI would generate better scripts than they do.

[@misterdeer5261]

With the current mcu script I says they are still being over appreciate

[@lordjet1596]

@@freman007 Fully agree. From personal experience, AI is a great tool, and may (perhaps) give a ten to thirty percent productivity boost for writing and research (the people claiming ten times the amount of content are clearly rubbish writers and editors). AI video production is great for people who want to get started making decent content too (but have little tech experience). Times are a changing!

[@montyspython7000]

Jobs become obsolete as society progresses though. It's tragic for the workers, but that's how we advance. Think about it - no one's arguing to bring back the town blacksmith or the local medicine man. In 100 years, no one will want outdated and underpaid writing jobs either.

[@saintkofi]

say a prayer for Ryan for actually sitting down to watch this

[@HurtButNotDefeated]

He makes the sacrifice so that none of us have to. He's truly the hero we need, but not the one we deserve.

[@ripabner]

For real

[@Goober_____]

Watching a bad show for content is TIGHT.

[@CornellKeith]

🎉🎉🎉

[@aleksanderzaremba9695]

There are far worse shows than this. Until third episode it was kinda good but even if a whole series was like this, it would not be enough.

[@alexandremasclet5553]

I was a HUGE fan of the MCU all the way up to Endgame. A really HUGE fan. But today I am just disgusted by what Marvel did these last two years

[@genericname2747]

Endgame was a bittersweet ending. I stopped watching Marvel after because I was satisfied with what I got. And oh my god, I'm glad I did. Marvel is just going to keep going and going, never letting the heros have any sort of peace

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

picture a fine, lovingly made cherry pie made from good-to-great quality ingredients which a flock of business executives then grab with their tentacles and throw at the bottom of an open silo and proceed to blast with fire hoses until it's diluted enough to fill the entire thing. Random chunks and atomized bits of cherry and soggy crust float around in the slurry they promptly dump from the bottom into our screaming faces while screeching *"HERE IT'S MORE OF WHAT YOU LIKE GIVE US CASH"* and that's how I feel and have felt about the aggressive pop culture saturation (and proportional decay in quality) of Marvel and everyone trying to replicate their success since I sat and watched Tony Stark DIY his way into superhero-dom in 2008.

[@genericname2747]

@@OfficialROZWBRAZEL It's like each superhero was a tasty pie, and now Marvel is just shoving pie ingredients together. Like, lets put raspberries in this lemon meringue. Let's call this an apple pie, but have most of the pie be full of fish! People like fish pie right?? Who needs crust! Put fruit jam on a plate and call it a pie! And also the cooks have five minutes to bake a pie, most of them don't know what type of pie their baking, and they have to cook with a microwave.

[@OfficialROZWBRAZEL]

@@genericname2747 do I even have to ask what you think of _The Marvels_ ?

[@genericname2747]

@@OfficialROZWBRAZEL I'm going to be real with you. I don't know, or care, what The Marvels is. I heard it came out, but that's all. I'm done with this franchise.

[@stormthrush37]

Pitch Meeting embodies how bad Hollywood writing has gotten at this point and why I have almost entirely given up on anything coming out of there at this point. I've honestly halfway gotten to the point that like in _The Producers_ I'm starting to seriously wonder if they are intentionally doing this badly on movies and shows because of some weird financial incentive where they can somehow make more doing terribly.

[@iambicpentakill]

Nah, it's just that people will pay them absurd money regardless. So more stuff equals more * absurd $.

[@planetdisco4821]

Personally I can’t wait to see the Disney animated movie version of “Springtime for Hitler”

[@ionaskualexander1255]

since scripts are so bad no wonder the Hollywood bosses wanna switch to AI

[@One.Zero.One101]

Every time I hear about a book being adapted to a series, I now expect it to be fan fiction and disrespect the material. That's how studios have trained my brain to think.

[@fehzorz]

So you have a tax evasion scheme for me

[@indiezona4797]

Despite dropping the MCU after Wandavision I still watch your pitch meetings to tell me what happens in these shows and remind me that I made the right decision.

[@webbedshadow2601]

Good idea!

[@JoeR-cd9jg]

Yeah Secret Invasion was the last one I was ganna give a shot

[@LuisCasstle]

Dropped it after Endgame.

[@chuchu5946]

​@emotionaldamage2167Lots of Marvel's writers/directer never read comics. They are hired to provide "new perspectives" you wouldnt get from a comic fan.

[@7ebr830]

Ha! I dropped the M-She-U after Infinitely Wars - but I watch these Pitch Meetings for precisely the same reason. And in case you're wondering, no, I haven't watched Endgame and no, I don't ever intend to watch Endgame. I'm quite happy with my life as it is that Thanos won and equilibrium was brought back to the force - er, I mean, "the universe."

[@iReiGNxx]

Yeah, when people started praising the fact that we got a new character with everyone’s powers, all I could think of was how the stakes will be well and truly destroyed in any of her fights.

[@rev0568]

If they are heavily diluted versions of their powers I'm fine with it. You know, can't match the Hulk blow for blow, her energy blasts and flight speed are lessar than Captain Marvel, etc etc

[@iReiGNxx]

@@rev0568 True, it could be. We can’t really tell from a skrull vs skrull match.

[@HMNCLunar]

If that already happened with Captain Marvel then just try to imagine with a character who has those powers only as one entrance of a long list...

[@deandre_dl]

0:59 Literally in less than one minute, you blew a hole the size of the Grand Canyon in this show’s plot line… Mind is blown 🤯🤯🤯. You just earned a sub.