Red Meat controversy

Another study is getting headlines claiming that eating red meat causes higher TMAO levels which increase the risk for heart disease. But as we have seen many times before, these data are incomplete and unreliable. Once you look deeper into the study, you see why you can't trust the headlines. Plus, we include tips so you can better understand how to evaluate these studies.
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[@Richard.Atkinson]

We need to stop saying that these studies that don’t account for healthy user bias are “weak evidence.” They are not evidence at all, and can be completely dismissed immediately upon finding out they didn’t follow basic scientific principles of correcting for confounders.

[@Blefiz]

It's almost as there is and agenda being pushed

[@bart-kay]

Dead Right, Richard. The only way to control for confounders is PRIOR to data collection. You MUST absolutely equate subject pools at baseline.

[@stevenjackson5213]

The Connolly's

[@midwestribeye7820]

I remember filling out a long food study in the 90's. I remember because I tried really hard to fill it out as accurately as possible and I was living in my first apartment. Why would people assume that we would continue to eat the same way throughout our entire lives? I've changed NUMEROUS times for extended periods. Every. Diet. In.the. books. Only being in ketosis has allowed me to easily lose weight, taken all my joint pain, and had all my blood levels normalize. I eat a very high red meat diet. Almost no plants. I feel my best when I eat only beef and pork. Prayers for everyone who reads this to become healthy and stay healthy.

[@xBettyjo]

I lost 35 lb by not eating sugar I couldn't believe it. High fat high protein it was amazing I quit binging I stopped getting up in the middle of the night and eating. These people are lying.

[@uaebifvideo5472]

Same to you!!Best wishes!!👍🏼

[@Ecclesiastes9-10GlorytoGod]

I have one focus and that's to keep my blood sugar happy. It's happiest when I eat a 5-6 oz. sirloin steak with broccoli. I'm not going to stop no matter what anyone says.

[@penultimatename6677]

My question is not about the poor quality study. It is about how can reputable organizations accept these papers for publication?

[@rfbead321]

These organizations are houses of ill repute.

[@krischen7470]

Money

[@tmcche7881]

Exactly right. And this is happening in every "scientific" field of study. The peer review process is being conducted by a _"scientific" mafia_ in every field of study. ps, only group think and newspeak is permitted and that's not science.

[@krischen7470]

Politics

[@parapoliticos52]

For the same reason thousands of doctors make hundred of thousands a year in payments from the drug industry. Peer review magazines staff are as corruptible. In fact we know that they are by multiple reports in the last years. To answer your question you only need to find out whose agenda is served by reducing (or replacing)the meat consumption.

[@KenJackson_US]

Videos like this have helped me understand that there's an _awful_ lot of studies that do science poorly.

[@bart-kay]

Its not science at all. Science is experimental it requires control and intervention.

[@btudrus]

Not only poorly, but completely wrong!

[@gazlives]

@@btudrus and most of these scientists are too smart to 'accidentally' get it wrong.

[@btudrus]

@@gazlives "and most of these scientists are too smart to 'accidentally' get it wrong." Read Th. S. Kuhns book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions". Science is "dogma-based" (needs "paradigms" in terms of Kuhn to be able to function). It's not that hard to establish false dogmas (paradigmata) if you have enough money like the food industry has...

[@asarcadyn2414]

@@gazlives Don’t underestimate the incompetence of nutrition researchers.

[@ynmamflm]

Why did going to a high fat low, low carb diet effect my A1c in such a way that it went from 10.6 to 5.5 in less than a year? My lipid panel was all in healthy range also. For the first time every. I love me some vegetables but since cutting them out I am as healthy as I was when I was a kid.

[@xBettyjo]

Because you were super special case and it only will work for you lol. No just kidding they're freaking liars. I quit eating sugar and lost 35 lb unbelievable!!!! So instead of dying from diabetes I'm going to die from eating red meat that cured the diabetes I'm okay with that.

[@bart-kay]

Well that is easy.... high A1c is caused by an excess of glucose. Excess glucose comes from carbs.

[@chazwyman8951]

@@bart-kay I think you missed the irony. Why did my A1C drop - dah!

[@bart-kay]

@@chazwyman8951 nope, I got it... you missed the irony from me.

[@chazwyman8951]

@@bart-kay No you missed MY irony.

[@mnicholls69]

Carnivore diet July 6th 2021 lost 57# completely off high blood meds, first time off thyroid meds in 35 years, autoimmune disorders gone, arthritis gone, skin tags and blemishes gone, A!C from 6.8 to 5.2 in 1 year, I have not felt this good in 30 years. Did I mention I am 71 year old male?? We have been lied to our whole life, if your Dr still wants you to follow low calorie, low fat diet you need to find another Dr. I live by example!!

[@toni4729]

That's how were waking up. We slow but sure.

[@geoffreylevens9045]

Great presentation. Bit of a stretch to even call that study "research" but that's the prevailing lingo. What I like best about this video is that it also gives a good lesson in how to analyze the quality of a report. Thank you Dr Scher.

[@jandick4350]

It's like a meal at mc Donalds, you eat processed fries,fried in seedoil.Drink a big milkshake, loaded with suger and a burger, a processed bun with processed sauce and a meatpatty. People devellop health issues and they put the blame on the patty.....

[@BluffMunkey]

As I understand it, most of these studies also don't differentiate between a good quality steak and a hideous hot dog.

[@Philly1958]

Science with an agenda

[@tmcche7881]

Animal Rights, WEF _"scientists."_

[@toni4729]

@@tmcche7881 Darling, we brought up those animals to do with what we have to. Sheep can't sheer themselves and cows were never wild. We made them what they are. How long do you think we have lived without eating meat? Without consuming animal produce? Vegans have been around only since the sixties. That is the 1960s.

[@tmcche7881]

@@toni4729 _dear_ Context is everything. Philly said : "Science with an agenda" I said: "Animal rights, WEF 'scientists'" These were examples of _scientists with an agenda_ How long do you think we will continue as a nation without first seeking to understand? Take a look around honey, we're on the precipice of a civil war. ps, I enjoyed an entire ribeye for dinner tonight. After eating bacon, sausage, eggs and cheese for lunch. I love animals when properly prepared.

[@du5593]

@@toni4729 You just disrespected 3000 years of indian culture lol

[@toni4729]

@@du5593 I'd like to know how you manage to work that out. I certainly don't see that. Are you trying to tell me that cows and sheep were something that India had something to do with specifically. How did I offend you?

[@bart-kay]

Brett, Lets you and I do a collaborative video on the folly of Epidemiology. One thing I continually repeat and push for is we MUST eliminate the use of the terms 'Risk', 'Hazard', and similar. Associative studies cannot inform on either... at all. We should also stop using the term prospective - these cohort 'studies' are nothing of the sort. Also interested in the totally inappropriate use of 'adjustment', i.e. fabrication of outcomes... Let me know. Thanks.

[@Norman_Gunstan1]

Great idea 💡

[@btudrus]

Ah, Bartholomaeaeus Kay, nice to read you again! 🙃😊🙃😊 Yes, please, eliminate "risk" and other plantsh%t science. (I like bulls not plants 🤣🤣🤣)

[@StephenCDayton]

If you follow the money you'll know the final conclusions of the "scientific study" before it even begins.

[@gerlachsieders4578]

I just received a newsletter from Unsettled Science by Nina Ticholz on this study, guess what? The study was funded by Procter & Gamble. That says it all. Nevertheless, an excellent analysis and debunking Dr. 👌

[@lloydhlavac6807]

@Engelbert Humperdinck If you want your "study" funded, or funding in the future,, better come up with a result that pleases the sponsor.

[@glowlight3791]

Thank you so much. Please continue to help us interpret the scientific studies that are published. Very helpful to learn how to read the data

[@MsMsmak]

Short and sweet. Thanks for shining the light on bullshit.

[@shannonmarko6809]

So glad you posted this! My husband shared that meat article with me a week ago, because I’m carnivore. Just reading it, I said that it was poor science, epidemiological, not controlled, healthy user bias, etc. But my husband never believes a word out of my mouth. He’ll believe you, though!

[@aindriubradleymarshall6226]

Who finances research is key . . . .

[@greco37]

Forget the red meat, I saw a fat couple sit down to a “ meal” of caramel macchiatos and chocolate chip cookies. Clearly something has gone wrong.

[@victormancini7774]

Nice work Doc I just came across your channel. I've been following Dr. Shawn Baker carnivore guy on his channel also. So I just had my CT Heart wo IV Contrast Calcium Scoring . It came back all zeros what do you think of the testing is that a good factor for heart disease to know if you're gonna have problems down the road?

[@clindsay8362]

All I do with people who argue for avoiding meat, is point at the canine tooth, showing we evolved to chew meat. We can't unravel our evolution.

[@tmcche7881]

But, but, but, ... I self-identify as a _herbivore._

[@MsMsmak]

Excellent idea. I'll start using that too.

[@Jane-yg3vz]

There has never been a society that thrived on a vegan diet, but the Inuit and the Mongolians ate completely animal based diets without supplements, which is what you need to not die as a vegan. You can also point out that humans thrived during the ice age and would have been completely carnivore.

[@MarkVA71]

And our digestive system is like a wolf.

[@Whineboy]

@@MarkVA71 yes! and we have the high stomach acidity level of a carnivore, pH 1.5-2.0.

[@StarvingMyselfToLIFE]

Conclusion drawn. No study is worth putting significant value in.

[@locoemutwo4872]

garbage is garbage. Dr. Scher...you are so gracious.

[@tmcche7881]

@@locoemutwo4872 that's the word I was trying to remember, _gracious._ He is very gracious when he tears apart a "study." Far more so than I could ever be.

[@antknee6579]

Why don't they just study vegetarians?

[@KillerofGods]

Well vegetarians on average are probably healthier because most cut out processed food. Plus vegetarians can still drink milk/eat eggs and some of them even eat fish (idk why they don't consider fish animals...) Vegans short term are probably fine? Long term it seems extremely unhealthy. Whereas SAD eat 💩 loads of processed food.

[@gman77gas]

Definition of vegetarian....Bad Hunter

[@kirshens]

Are the vegetarians still alive?

[@tmcche7881]

That might shed too much sunshine, aka scientific reality, onto to the true nature of diet and health.

[@kevinp8108]

@@kirshens - Loma Linda California is a BLUE ZONE. Blue zones are areas on earth where there is an unusually long life expectancy among their residents. Loma Linda residents are mostly Seventh Day Adventists who are mostly vegetarians. Sorry, I'd rather eat meat and die earlier.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

Surveying more McDonald’s customers. Red meat is bad. THe bun and canola oil used to fry the potatoes is discounted.

[@robinbeers6689]

And the super sized soda...

[@tomoday4450]

I’m Carnivore Never felt better 🥩🥩🥩👍🏻

[@infini_ryu9461]

I like these videos a lot, and it has good presentation. Good to see the sub count increasing on this one.

[@jennrodolfo5120]

Thank you. Much Love from the Philippines.

[@richardpiotrowski1043]

So, I subscribe to a lot of newsletters and it never ceases to amaze me the amount of self-promotion (sometimes products, sometimes philosophy of life) that goes on... (One in particular, from the Robbins organization...essentially: "you fiends who like meat"...) You, Dr. Westman and Dr. Berry are among the few that I am willing to listen and trust...thanks.

[@vas4739]

Thank you Dr S

[@LuciaAronica]

👌Another great video! Let's help people interpret scientific research and get through the noise - and sometimes bias - to understand what the results mean (and don't mean) for them!

[@robinbeers6689]

I really enjoyed your presentation at the Santa Barbara Metabolic Health Summit earlier this year, Dr. Lucia.

[@LuciaAronica]

@@robinbeers6689 🙏 Thanks Robin!

[@maryannehill8821]

Thank you for making this issue of eating meat balanced and clear. I am so confused with the controversy but Diet Doctor always takes a very level approach, 👍🏻

[@zl4245]

How trustworth are the results you showed at 02:37?

[@jeffschollmeyer5247]

Great content!

[@StephanySantiagoM]

Great vídeo. It would be awesome if this was also in spanish. There is a lot of people that would benefit from all this information. Keep going 👌👏

[@ericmcdowell5762]

I'd take 'red meat' over 'green meat' any time.

[@sophiaentzminger5011]

Me too !!

[@stocksyere]

Thanks for calling out the BS

[@gz9gjg108]

Isn't it significant that there was so little difference between the red / processed meat eaters, and the fish eaters? Or between educated / less educated, smokers / non-smokers?

[@pawzir]

So basically, red meat causes smoking?

[@evanhadkins5532]

Do you have a vid on what Hazard Ratios mean in the real world? This doesn't get explained in the studies.

[@btudrus]

Dariush Mazaffarian, that says it all. Should not be even allowed to published a single word!

[@joantendler6518]

Great video! The researchers also ignore the established connection between heart disease and acetylcholinesterase (AChE) inhibitors like Atrazine. When AChE is inhibited, there's a build-up of acetylcholine, so the body makes anti-bodies against acetylcholine receptors. This is very bad for heart health, since acetylcholine is a "major regulator" of the heart. Atrazine also breaks down phosphatidylcholine, and that choline is made into TMAO by gut bacteria (perhaps it can't be made into acetylcholine since there's already a build-up of it). Interestingly, E. coli is used for soil remediation of Atrazine, plus E. coli feeds on TMAO! So, exposure to Atrazine would also increase E. coli in the gut, and E. coli has been linked to heart disease. BTW, Stanley Hazen holds many patents on TMAO testing and drugs to lower it, but the only publicly-available information doesn't list any conflicts of interest.

[@rl9808]

These days I’m sort of hoping people don’t choose too much red meat so I can get it.

[@methylmania]

Good point. We should invest and propagate vegan fake meats as a 4D chess move. I'm tired of paying so much for beef.

[@sophiaentzminger5011]

Funny!! I hope the same!!

[@ArtU4All]

“Statistical gymnastics” is the name of the highway “the science” has been riding on for a few decades. But they really increased their speed beyond legal in the last 10-15 yrs. Not only. Now it is who can knock off whose “science” faster. I anticipate many crashes on this highway of statistical gymnastics. Thank you for your excellent review.

[@LVQ-so5th]

But let's not blame statistics for bad practitioners of it. It would be like blaming a car for a bad driver's actions. Unfortunately, many doctors do not understand statistics. A prime example is with statins, where relative risk reduction is hyped when, in fact, the absolute risk reduction is more important.

[@ArtU4All]

@@LVQ-so5th Believe me, I am not blaming the doctors for not understanding statistics. I am blaming the “scientists” and the statisticians for manipulations and LIES. But I do blame the doctors en masse for caving in to the establishment and ditching the hippocratic oath in a pinch (I am referring to the Covid “vaccine” disaster here and the prescriptive drugs epidemic)

[@grantjones8690]

I strongly recommend avoiding the higher priced cuts of beef, such as t-bone and ribeyes. Saves more for me.

[@Jan96106]

Thank you.

[@brucemaher7621]

As I have been hearing and reading..There are Cracks in the food industry now and they are starting to get worried.. Meat is in the target to get put down...This just tells me that meat seems to be the way to go... Thanks Sir

[@GivathBrenner]

What's dietary meat? Mr. Phillips Canada Retired

[@priuss6109]

Diet Doctor, you should look up about this person involved in this low-quality study bashing meat and think about his motivation: Dariush Mozaffirian

[@Hanover-ek4jy]

the World Health Organization (WHO)’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) announced that consumption of processed meat is “carcinogenic!

[@toni4729]

Sugar and carbs are carcinogenic. They use glucose in the PET scan to find cancer because cancer feeds like crazy on glucose. Look it up and see. If processed meat is carcinogenic it's because it has sugar in it.

[@philmartz]

I really appreciate your channel, one of my "go-to's" for critical analysis of research. You did pretty much rip this paper. However, at 5:20 you say "this is science". It's not science. What can the scientific community do to pour cold water on this kind of work? I've seen that publishers can get called out, researchers can get feedback, and papers can be retracted.

[@vinniejones8009]

I dont know about all this medical stuff, all I know is that when I cut out red meat from my diet, and most other meats, keep to a Mediterranean diet with fish…. I felt much better, my health was better, a lot of medical problems I had disappeared. So I wont be going back to eating red meat, in fact now I dont like it.

[@BaresarkSlayne]

I definitely don't believe it. It's always the same bad relative risk ratios. I mean, if your RR isn't above 2, why do we even consider it at all. I always make this analogy: You want to make some kool-aid. So you add a tablespoon of Kool-Aid mix and 64oz of water. You taste it, you can barely taste anything at all. So, in order to make it sweeter, you add a tablespoon more of the mix, but then add another 64oz of water. You taste it, and nothing has changed. Of course it hasn't, you are using the exact same ratio the second time around. These studies that come up with the same 1.1 or 1.2 RR are doing just that. Adding more weak data doesn't magically make it stronger data, it's just more weak data.

[@_7.8.6]

My only concern is iron in men. I believe it’s hard for the body to absorb. A concern or not ?

[@bubbleone6526]

Start by who is funding the study and why. Follow the money!

[@stan8926]

Big broccoli ?

[@toni4729]

Quite right.

[@thomashughes4859]

0:03 - No. And we all lived happily ever after. 🐄♥️😁

[@aloobi]

I've been told I feel this way.

[@250txc]

A short cut to all this, is to limit your reading to only people you know and can trust like the Diet Doctor videos and his guests..

[@robertbeckler5058]

I just like trying different things out with my own body. Right now I eat a lot of animal fat, a lot a lot. Hardly any plants. My blood test came back great my aches and pains are almost totally gone( craaaaaazy) I'm 6'1" and down to 190, was 235, and 57 years old. Heartbeat around 50 beats a minute blood press. 120 over 70. Tri's are down to 80, was at over 120 . So you eat what you want I'm sticking to lard and tallow. I would have to go back to my twenties to look like I do now and no I don't go to the gym. My doctor asked me how often I go to the gym and for how long I said never. She asked what supplements I take I say none. I eat as much fat as possible and eat plants three times a week.

[@scp240]

The little people must stop eating meat to save the planet - signed, Klaus Schwab

[@toni4729]

Little people? Save the planet? Save the planet from what? Weedkillers. Toxins? Being poisoned by all the crap that's dumped on the food now because the animals have been removed from the land? Because the land is turning to sand and being washed into the seas because there's nothing left to hold it anymore. Wake up.

[@ericaarseth7678]

Two things you should should look at right away in these studies: who funded it and what where they trying to prove?

[@siitan83]

why is it not mentioned and isnt it a big factor whether you process your meat in motoroil/motorfuel or in a butter ? I'd guess that most people eat meat with motoroil and then blame the meat for the heartattack.

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

Our medical researchers need to learn to look at the big picture to assess what things to study. Medical history shows that prior to the 20th century there was virtually no cardiovascular disease, no diabetes, no metabolic syndrome, extremely little cancer, etc. So, when assessing likely causes for any of those conditions, the things that will NOT be causal are the things people were eating prior to the 20th century. Red meat and animal fats were heavily consumed during those times, so it's virtually impossible for them to be causal of our modern chronic illnesses. Researchers need to stop wasting time and effort trying to find out if those things are problematic. They are not. Period. The things that DO need to be researched are foods that have been added to the food supply during the time those conditions became common. Vegetable/seed oils, preservatives, high amounts of simple carbs, etc.

[@parapoliticos52]

Meat is a 100 billion dollars(just in usa) business and they want it. They want it, but their plan is to satisfy it with replica meats. Why? Cause they can keep the prices as high as the current price of meat is but reduce cost at the level of plant crops.

[@methylmania]

Damn, that's a damned smart hypothesis. And just like all the other fake bullshit food it will kill tens of millions. A win win for the ghouls who run the world.

[@elizabethcristinazevallos1309]

Traduzcan al español xfavorrr

[@Donna-cc1kt]

I discount it too & suspect it emanates from the white meat producers. I think studies are paid for sometimes by the adversary. However, as beef is now priced at the absurd - I’m eating more white meat because it’s cheaper. I also think our choice of meat is due to geography. I was raised in Newfoundland ergo I eat fish often. I agree with you, just stating more factors.

[@garyharvey3545]

Its not science, it is studies done to attract, or in response to finance from food and Pharmaceutical industry organisations.

[@ALT-vz3jn]

When I was a teen in the 80’s my mother insisted we always have margarine to eat on our ‘whole wheat bread’ (full of high fructose corn syrup) and eggs were bad so we had to eat egg white omelets. Fats were bad, and animal fats were the worst of all. Everything was low fat and full of sugar. When I think of all the horrible toxic margarine I was forced to eat because of faulty and incorrect studies. I don’t trust studies anymore they’re BS. I eat what makes me feel good (carnivore diet) I’m a blood type O, that’s my correct diet. Lmao the first thing I bought with my groceries after moving out of my childhood home was a pound of butter 😂 always trust your intuition.

[@jax9349]

Unfortunately this is all corporate driven. I fear that they have the money and power, the truth no longer matters.

[@OIOnaut]

WEF Bs. I am a carnivore 4:th year. Nothing but red meat organs and saturated fat. I feel bett3r than the Avengers.

[@davidrodgers4760]

Nice.,what exactly specifically do U eat On your carnivore? Thanks

[@zsuzsuspetals]

There is a world of difference between the type of person who eats meat in the form of sausage, chicken nuggets, bacon, fried meats and the person who eats grass fed beef several times a week. When these studies look at meat eaters they lump everyone in together. Overall when I brought grass fed beef and elk back into my diet, I was more satisfied. I ate less carbs and sugar. I've lost weight. My iron is in the normal range. My blood sugar is stable from eating less carbs and sugar and getting more fats. I have way less brain fog and more energy.

[@oldtymer9106]

Quite the title indeed, all of these studies, actually. Lol!

[@gman77gas]

Lov me tbones!

[@tmcche7881]

Is it me? Does the strip steak portion of a _porterhouse_ taste better than the strip steak from a _t-bone_ cut, or not?

[@toni4729]

I eat bacon with almost every feed. It goes with chicken, steak, mince, almost everything, it's great stuff.

[@tmcche7881]

@@toni4729 ... read comment above yours ... we have got to stop meating (pun) like this.

[@Damudean]

I can’t say that is science unless you are still at elementary school

[@osteopathichomeopathicking6154]

Great quick dive into "doctored" studies. Love your channel. I've lost 20 pounds with LCHF just sitting around =) Furthermore I am not damaging my remaining kidney with plant lectins. All in all winning. Thank you

[@alexblue6991]

According to some experts no food is good for you

[@nope5791]

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." -Mark Twain

[@billyhughes9776]

It's contrived stats in order to arrive at a conclusion that is essentially a lie.

[@robertkattner1997]

It is important to eat the red meat before it gets green. 😋

[@magicf7076]

New Study? Meat is bad? Yeah, what ever ..

[@toni4729]

Studies always by religious vegan doctors from Seventh Day Adventist Church.

[@stan8926]

10 years of Paleo lowish carb (25% cal, 50% fat) , no sugar, min processed foods, no junk, etc, got me high blood pressure 140/90, chest pain and some plaque, 170 cm/68 kgs, TC over 220 but TG below 100. Yes it takes time, I was feeling well for a long time, body is resilient. 18 months on WFPBSOS and BP is down to 105/70. Weight down to 59 kgs, you lose weight massively if you limit fat (seeds, nuts), HbA1c from 5,8 to 5,2, TC below 170, but TG went up to 160. One thing is certain - BP can go down.

[@wocket42]

Dr. Westman's Keto diet has nuts on the forbidden list. Too many carbs, if you can't stop.

[@wntu4]

Easily dismissed when one looks at the anthropological record. We've been eating this stuff for many thousands of generations. Hundreds of thousands of years. If it was terrible for us we wouldn't be here. You can look at the record of cultures that are primarily carnivorous. They don't have the 'diseases of civilization' like diabetes, tooth rot and obesity. You can also look at societies that adopted a western diet and very quickly began suffering same. You can look at disease in ancient Egypt, where the diet was mainly agrarian. Those people SUFFERED. You can look at our anatomy. We are hunters. Predators. We have 4 organs designed to process fat. The organ we had to process fiber...well that was the appendix. We don't require fiber...at all. It's useless to us. We don't require nutritional carbs...at all. The liver can make all the carbs our brain needs, which isn't much. The evidence before our eyes is absolutely overwhelming. We are meat eaters.

[@AlphaCopper]

Saw this after eating beef🥴

[@toni4729]

I had just had a salmon breakfast.

[@secretname7546]

I have read this paper in Nature: The microbial gbu gene cluster links cardiovascular disease risk associated with red meat consumption to microbiota L-carnitine catabolism (Buffa, Romano et al. - 2021). I didn't understand it entirely, but it seems like you have a significant health risk, if you happen to have a very special set of gut bacteria. I'd be grateful, if you could have a look.

[@angelgirldebbiejo]

Bah!! Humbug...... eat what you like, who cares what others think......

[@baccaratfitness2360]

The authors really took their time and it took a lot of work? Come on man, it’s garbage to fit their biases and they’re putting it out there as if it’s top notch scientific research and it’s not. Infuriating.

[@jdfreedomlover]

Don't need to feel sorry for the authors "taking their time". They are well-paid propagandists.

[@stevenjackson5213]

Yeah, Agreed it is like watching fox propaganda!

[@carmenross1077]

I can only think of plant based meat sponsoring this research and paying everything. Then they will promote the meat and beyond all BS

[@malmay999]

I don't believe in any of those studies. Money talk not a logic and the truth.

[@kala9907]

Wait until they find out the quantum physics won a noble prize 2022. That is really going to flip their noodle. "Your thoughts create your reality."

[@carlberg7503]

The human body is complex. Although we know a lot about the body and how is works, there is more we do not know. For a long time the wine industry funded studies that said wine is good for the heart. Now there is convincing evidence that alcohol is a carcinogen. The way the human body works is mysterious. The way business works is not mysterious. See who's funding which study or which channel. Who will make money off you? Our first cousins the chimps eat very little red meat and fill up on fruits and vegetables. I have no advice to give anyone except caveat emptor.

[@geraldsahd3413]

Trash Science Story for the local news shows trying to fill air time.

[@kirshens]

Why do you watch

[@db5038]

Key question; who funded and/or lobbied for this study? General Mills, etal. What were the percentages (ratios) of Fat, Carbs, Proteins consumed on a daily basis? The other main question is how much $$$ did the taxpayers waste on such a specious study? 🤔

[@dvanhottie]

I Timothy ch4:1-4. Meat is good. Who can trust the science when it is man who performs the science?

[@stevenjackson5213]

Yeah, because we should get our information from a book of nonsense that thinks the earth is flat and 10,000 years old. Thank God for science!

[@dacisky]

100 years from now,they will still be doing this nonsense.

[@toni4729]

Cows are getting demonized, why not mars bars or cereals?

[@matthewmahon8204]

Red meat is red due to myoglobin and mitochondria, both contain bioavailable iron within the heme moiety. Based on the carnivore diet, red meat contains everything for life to exist. How many in the red meat group have that supersized fry or bag of chips everyday with that red meat?

[@toni4729]

Well said. Two thirds of our brain fat, I wonder how much of that is in a bag of chips. 😍✨✨

[@emh8861]

Blah blah blah. Science is a joke 🤣🤣🤣

[@MsMsmak]

Uh no. BAD science is a joke.

[@cherylgabriel9551]

No n e

[@dmcfence]

TMAO LMAO ;)

[@Combinationlock]

Food ideology

[@AndersWelander]

My takeaway is that it is safe to eat red meat. Especially considering that the primary concern is to avoid sugar and sugar and sugar and sugar and sugar and sugar and a bunch of other things before getting to the meat.