The Episode Where We're Actually Sad

[@emmareynolds1976]

“I really value our friendship” the SMILE 22:07 I love them so much

[@awesomedude5558]

They are SO CUTE together as friends. :D

[@echo_felix331]

THE SMILE

[@teethfaerie9522]

as someone with adhd, it’s sosoSO important for people like you guys to be talking about things like this. our disorder was named by a neurotypical person and has been so awfully misunderstood, it’s so refreshing to see it talked about how it is.

[@saggguy7]

No wonder it’s such an inaccurate name 😂 I don’t have a deficit of attention. I pay WAY TOO MUCH attention to the wrong things. It’s more like..attention disregulation disorder.

[@TuesdaysArt]

ADHD is more accurate than ADD, though it also gives people the wrong idea of ADHD. When people hear "hyperactive", someone would imagine someone bouncing off the walls. I'm pretty lethargic, but my thoughts are hyperactive if that makes sense? My mind goes at a million miles a minute and I have to be doing something all the time.

[@consentclub8431]

Especially seeing how there's different forms of ADHD, it's so easy to be misdiagnosed!

[@tineke4134]

Yes!!! A symptom of ADHD is hyper-focusing on something. Sometimes I even forget to eat if I’m really focused on something

[@Olive.Violet]

um's and ah's don't bother me, it just sounds like someone's thinking when they're talking and that's what makes podcasts so comforting. It's just real people talking about real things or whatever they want and these are two intelligent creators that have great thoughts to share.

[@awesomedude5558]

I have actually thought that they were good and made people feel more like people. But that's just me.

[@vlogily8043]

As a linguist, overlap or “talking over each other” is totally normal in regular conversations

[@awesomedude5558]

I experience it often, both from me and from other people. It's just normal.

[@synzipper2840]

listening to sad bois while stoned out of my mind is a lot more comforting than I would've guessed. thanks boys 😌

[@nikittan.4863]

boyz*

[@riaagnihotri7950]

Oh it's also quite comforting when you're drunk and alone XD

[@kikuoisthebestandnoonecant1915]

It really do be like that. It’s okay to not be okay.

[@ErinLastNameRedacted]

In case you read this, Jarvis- A frontal lisp is simply a matter of tongue placement. If you want to fix it, close your teeth when you say s and z sounds. That will keep your tongue in place. You’ll have to turn it into a habit, though. You will have to basically unlearn the way you’ve talked your whole life, which can be a challenge. You definitely don’t HAVE to fix it, though. It’s not a particularly extreme lisp. We can understand your speech. I think you’ve improved with it a bit lately anyway. (I’m a speech-language pathologist, by the way.)

[@saltmomtmissad8384]

It's totally up to him, of course, but personally I love his lisp : ) I love all the little features that can make our voices sound unique even in the same language and dialect!

[@BusyAsBee1738]

He has a lisp???

[@dadjamnit]

Hey, guy! Shut. The. Fuck. Up. 🥰 K. Love youuuuu.

[@consentclub8431]

His lisp is so endearing! It makes me appreciate my own speech impediment

[@hmm2025]

I like his lisp, people dont have to be perfect

[@InternetsPedestrian]

Hey Boyz, I'm actually really glad I started listening to this podcast, I'm scheduled for a first real therapy session next month and after hearing this podcast, it made me realize that I may have ADHD myself and hope to discuss this further and hopefully reach a better place in my life after figuring out my mental health !

[@phosphenevision]

honestly same, haven't got around to scheduling but I took several pre-diagnose tests and got high chances every time 👁👄👁

[@InternetsPedestrian]

@@phosphenevision Yeah, its definitely makes me apprehensive but being able to actually give a name and reasons to my behavior is freeing

[@MewChocolateLuvHeart]

Hope your session goes well! First sessions can be rough 💛

[@phosphenevision]

@@InternetsPedestrian definitely it removes a lot of guilt about so many things, I'm kinda afraid I'm making it up to be able to feel better and that a therapist will make fun of me or something which makes no sense but it's there 🙈

[@adamthedum5598]

oh thats awesome! i too have it but cant afford a pyscologist so yeah im killing myself :)

[@Karlene1722]

THE MESSAGE ANXIETY OMG IVE EXPERIENCED THIS FOR YEARS AND NO ONE HAS EVER PUT IT THAT WAY. Thanks boys! I’m going to explore this further..

[@wasindear]

When Jarvis was talking about the quasi-lisp it made me realise that one of the reasons I like watching his stuff is cos I have the same pseudo-lisp. I'm super self-conscious about recordings of myself because of it, so it's so great that Jarvis is out here being a KZbin king, pure gold, premium even dare I say.

[@consentclub8431]

Same here!

[@lowkeybruja]

me forwarding this podcast to my therapist like "yeah so basically, this is all the noise in my head ive been trying to explain for the past 3 years"

[@awesomedude5558]

I mean, honestly same. XD

[@AJaeH]

I avoid reading messages from friends all the time to the point where I sometimes mute them in advance or put my phone face down just to not have to respond immediately, even in my head if that makes sense. It's definitely a social anxiety thing...

[@maribee0303]

As a creator with bipolar 2 it really makes me feel less alone hearing Jordan talk about his struggles with it and that mix off mania and depression all within a same episode that chemical drive to do but the inability and lack of care that makes you almost feel like a failure is something I've never been able to contextualize and the talk of executive dysfunction is something I'll bring up to my therapist all of that sounds like what I deal with too. Thanks sad boyz♡

[@theepuff5465]

Jordan’s eyebrows make me jealous! They’re so nice!

[@harperparkes3458]

i have never noticed your "ums" Jarvis, but i dont know if that's me being inattentive or it actually not being that bad lmao.

[@manbatluvr]

sometimes I really appreciate creators who don't edit out their ums or little awkward pauses when they're trying to figure out what they were in the middle of saying because like ... it makes me feel ... seen but also like , tolerable to listen to because I can watch those creators and my friends can watch those creators without being annoyed so they can listen to me without being annoyed

[@wizzytalksalot]

Oooh that’s a big brain logic right there and sooo true.

[@kaityhues4801]

Right! I also feel like I understand better because naturally my brain uses the awkward spaces to take everything in? Idk something like that

[@abadira]

The emotional honesty y'all share with each other (and by extension, us) never fails to be comforting tbh. I appreciate this episode a lot 💖

[@awesomedude5558]

I do, too. Your entire comment is just relatable to me, since I take great comfort in knowing these guys, Jarvis, Jordan, and their occasional guests, are all open to revealing their, well, feelings. It makes people feel less alone, and if that's not honorable, nothing is, really. It's one of the most honorable things I've seen KZbinrs do. Nay, it is one of the most honorable things I've seen *anyone* do for all of society to hear. This is why I love Jarvis and Jordan so much. They're honorable people.

[@toastybutterscones1932]

Thanks for talking about ADHD. I didn't know until I watched how much I need to have or see more people talking about it and especially some of the ways sufferers can be incapacitated. I know they're not necessarily dibilitating but for me being on the spectrum has largely contributed to feelings if being alone.

[@saggguy7]

They’re not always debilitating but they definitely can be in certain situations. There are times when my ADHD feels like a positive trait, times when it feels like a mild inconvenience, and times when it feels like a serious disability. It’s weird.

[@stuxbleed5859]

The part about being good at tests was the reason I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD - all of the tests they had me do were formatted in a way that my brain was like 'ok you need to focus on this' but in real life there isn't that structure that my brain can just latch onto. Or I just don't have ADHD, who knows.

[@hammy5668]

Oh my god. I relate so so so much with what you were saying about not wanting to read replies. Sometimes I end up with unread messages piling up for so long, even if I know they’re gonna be positive! I have OCD, and it makes me feel like a bad person/bad friend. I have never heard anyone else talk about that.

[@a.n.3643]

whatever jordan says sounds so mature and so educated

[@biggaylol5438]

he could literally say some shit like "Sugma tiddies" in an extra posh accent, and i'd just be like "he's so smart"

[@aquajoyah5450]

Thanks for talking about executive function guys, I really struggle with it too (I was diagnosed as on the autism spectrum but they've looked into ADHD meds for me too). In many other ways I can pass as neurotypical since I don't need the same amount and type of support as others with ASD. I also am good at taking tests but I'm horrible with homework and the day to day functioning of everyday life, which sucks. Like I feel so stupid sometimes 😟 Now that I'm diagnosed I'm able to target the issues I have and work more successfully towards my goals. Still got a long way to go, and I wish I had been diagnosed earlier (afabs tend not to get diagnosed until way later unfortunately), but I'm doing better overall!

[@yadsewnde]

I'm in the same boat and am proud of you and wish you good fortune on your continued progress. I agree, hearing people talk about these things really helps and keeps me motivated on dealing with my brain as best I can.

[@melanchronik]

i love this podcast so much because almost every single time you bring something mental health related up, i can relate and finally feel understood. it sometimes even makes me tear up. i am so grateful for that. thank you

[@fishboyFishyFins]

This is the reason why I love listening to your podcast, you guys openly talk about your mental health and create this accepting and healthy environment-it really has helped to reassure me and make me feel validated, and I’m certain others have felt the same. So thanks, for real. Even if the podcast has ended (which I think it has?), it’s very comforting to listen to the episodes that you’ve already made.

[@natty.777]

Bipolar 2 is something that very few people know about, so it’s comforting when someone says they have it too, like I’m not alone. Thank you for being so honest

[@farfrompleasant]

Absolutely love the content, but I’d like a skin care segment one day lol 😅. No but seriously, I love the critical aspect of this channel as well as the relationship between Jarvis and Jordan. Hitting the notifications bell- now.

[@etherjumper]

They have brought up the their skin is just flawless from the old fashioned black don't crack theory. Neither of them do anything crazy for their skin, and I'm jealous

[@awesomedude5558]

@@etherjumper Black DEFINITELY don't crack, man. It actually looks like they have a skincare routine, and alas...

[@jzaldivar9952]

im so ready for another session with the Boyz

[@iruleudrule]

Hey Jarvis, just incase you ever see this, just wanted to say I appreciate how open you are (well both of you) about mental health. I see myself in you a lot, I’m really self conscious about the way I talk and I feel like I talk too much, and you explaining your though process about why you talk so much (which isn’t a bad thing!!) hit the nail on the head. I have pretty bad anxiety and can’t ever organize my thoughts, so hearing you explain that really stuck with me, because it’s exactly how I feel but could never put into words. I know it can’t be easy being open about worries or struggles like that but we really do appreciate it.

[@awesomedude5558]

It really helps people out a lot. It does.

[@1ndiasmusic]

I know this was two years ago but it's really refreshing to hear someone else talk about being somniphobic. I have struggled with sleep my entire life (thanks undiagnosed ADHD, potentially misdiagnosed bipolar II and just general anxiety) and I get really bad sleep paralysis to the point where I get panic attacks when I need to go to bed and any medication that is supposed to relax me sends me into a panic because it makes me tired. It's such a shitty thing and it can be isolating when everyone else talks about sleep as a peaceful escape.

[@tamkingshorts]

I actually like the silences when they happen. It lets the feelings sink in, and makes it feel like its safe to talk about them without rushing past what was being talked about. You guys are doing a great job XD

[@TheAmityElf]

"The sun'll come out tomorrow and all that jazz." Ahh, two different musical references.

[@echo_felix331]

my little theatre kid heart was very happy

[@jenniemiller4600]

I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and it’s really nice to hear you talking about and normalizing the way we think and operate. It really effects interpersonal relationships and conversations more than most people realize. Love the podcast, and always listen, keep up the awesome work towards destigmatizing neurodivergence

[@hannahmcandrew2686]

im not really sure what im trying to say, but thanks for making these videos. they’re funny and warm, and somewhere nice to escape. thank you.

[@zoyahajee8817]

wait i relate so much to the messages anxiety thing ;-; also this is such a good episode

[@mathewfrance5165]

One of the worst things about sleep issues in my experience is the absolute monopoly a single night can have on ruining things. It takes multiple days of getting good sleep to finally level out and feel normal but ONE late night or restless sleep carries on for a while longer than it should.

[@cheeznyx6606]

You guys are so comforting and I can't thank you enough

[@goldjoyproducer]

I'm so glad I found you guys! I'm not even big on podcasts but I could watch you guys for hours. Jarvis, I really feel you about the hyperawareness and needing to get your thoughts out. I am crazy similar: I feel like I talk too much, I have dozens of thoughts at once that I need to sort out as I'm talking, I get excited when I say something and it actually makes sense, I know that sometimes I come across like I don't care about what other people have to say because I'm unintentionally interrupting, etc. I can tell the comments got to you and you seemed genuinely sad for this aptly-titled episode. Thank you for being open and vulnerable about all these things! You both are such fantastic, self-aware, critically-thinking intelligent people. I hope this is one of the comments you do end up reading! :)

[@proonv5513]

it do be like that sometimes

[@bhanderwoman]

Jordan saying don't lose your years actually made me cry so hard. I sorta gave up on my adhd but I might try and find some resources

[@harmless8734]

Don't let internet people who hate themselves attack you cause they think your mouth looks weird? Don't even give it a second thought. Those are just people who can't get past what they see, and never get to know a persons personality. Keep up the great content! I wish more people approached feelings like this, its a great medium to present it.

[@BouncyKnight331]

I am so thankful for you two talking about all these things. Especially you guys talking self medicating, and how it ties into your mental health issues. It makes me feel less alone.

[@AngieeShipps]

Both Jordan and Jarvis are such refreshing guys! Will listen again! ❤️ I think Jarvis lisp is sweet!

[@mliljegard19771209]

I like that you talk about bipolar 2 it makes me feel strangely validated thanks Jordan for your honesty.

[@raphaelpoulain3203]

This podcast gave me the courage to seek mental health help and I got diagnosed with Autism. I can't even begin to explain the sense of relief I felt when I found out I'm not just a complete fuck up and a weirdo.

[@consentclub8431]

Congrats, welcome to the autistic gang!

[@fishbornedisease]

hearing jordan talk about bipolar 2 was so reassuring, i feel like it doesn't get talked about a lot and i heavily relate to his experience lol

[@noski2530]

This podcast has seriously helped me so much with accepting myself and trying to actually solve my problems instead of letting them eat me alive haha. You boys mean the world to me, hope you release new episodes soon!

[@emospacequeen8073]

I just found the podcast today and I’m so glad I did. Jordan talking about his struggles with alcohol really resonated with me. I have a lot going on mentally but the most prevalent are probably borderline personality disorder and PTSD. I was diagnosed in 2016 but didn’t really receive much help at the time. I had avoided alcohol for the most part because I’m a type 1 diabetic, but near the end of 2016 I started drinking. I didn’t realize it was a problem until about March 2017 when I realized not only how much I was drinking but also how I’d been abandoning taking insulin. I ended up in the ICU June 2017 where I stayed for three days and then was transferred into a mental health clinic. I stayed away from alcohol until October 2018 and then quickly realized I was falling back into old habits and stopped drinking in December 2018. I don’t know how related the BPD and PTSD are to the drinking, because alcoholism runs in my family, but I can’t imagine they helped. Now, I just look at it as if I’ve lost my drinking license since I’ve proven I truly cannot control how much I drink. It’s really interesting to hear different perspectives and relationships people have with their mental health and substance use.

[@imaginareality]

Now that I am more aware of my own mental health stuff (and have worked through some of it) I see so much of it in my parents (and other people). And it is really depressing sometimes to think about how much suffering they maybe could have avoided if they'd had gotten help earlier in life. My dad died when he was 60 and he had just started really working on his mental health struggles (he had an eating disorder and I'm pretty sure there were some other underlying issues) a few years before that. It sucks so much that he never got to experience his best life...

[@BusyAsBee1738]

Its crazy bc I get these periods where I don't want to speak to anyone, even my friends. My emotions are turned off (well not OFF, but they're lowered) and its sorta draining to make the effort to do so. Then I seem cold, when I just want to be alone.

[@confusedbutexcited]

The friendship the two of you have is genuinely inspiring and a great goalpost for relationships of all kinds! Thank you both for your honesty and openness, it rocks.

[@CarryOnChronically]

This was intensely relatable. And listening to you two talk it out is helping me. You are both excellent at what you do xxx

[@peacelovefrogs35]

I've never related to a creator more than I related to Jarvis talking about his ADHD. I have ADHD and also deal with pretty much everything that you mentioned!

[@lii8406]

i really enjoyed this ep. i can really relate to struggling with alcohol, and hearing you talk about it sort of cemented it in my mind that it's something i need to deal with. great content; i love how candid and honest you guys are. excellent vibes.

[@helene8706]

ADHD is such a disability and it's hard to explain that to people. Like, it worsens my anxiety and depression, I always forget things that make no sense to other people, I'm always tired, and trying to explain how it all connects is EXHAUSTING

[@deafdude9456]

I like that your names allow me to consider this podcast the new J and J podcast, and that warms my aching heart

[@annaz2011]

hey jarvis, i’m really glad you’ve spoken up about ur concerns with speaking too much. i have a very similar speech pattern of saying things before fully forming a sentence and i’m glad to know i’m not alone. i’ve been trying to work on it but it’s kind of hard because i don’t know, it’s just a habit now. it’s great to know i’m not the only one who has this concern

[@LunaCidnie]

I am also diagnosed with ADHD. You have described my experience to the T. My thoughts are always going a mile a minute as well and I want to say it all before losing it and then I end up interrupting someone else’s ideas or talking over them. I feel very bad about it every time so when someone tells me I talk too much or interrupt too much it really gets me. Thanks for normalizing it through your platform. I feel like I can’t tell people about my ADHD without being judged or without someone telling me it’s not real or whatever. And then it’s hard to explain why I do some of the things that I do and I want to apologize to people and let them understand I’m not doing it on purpose etc. I also have (on and off) depression and (always on) anxiety and the three things interplay with each other all the time. It’s been very difficult and I’m a lot better but sometimes going through it alone feels exhausting. I wish I had people I could talk to about it but having a medium like this to hear other people’s experiences helps too.

[@tait4508]

Really appreciate Jordan for talking about bipolar 2, especially the hypomanic episodes and triggers. Episodes can be super disorienting. Looking at things I did during my “productive” (and chaotic) hypomanic episodes is like looking at the itinerary of a different person. And the lows are really really bad. In any case, I never hear anyone talk about it. Really means a lot to know someone else is in the same boat (although I wish you weren’t 😅). Hope all is well ☀️

[@sslimeman]

its always annoyed me when people point out when others say "um" or "like". who even cares

[@lillieaddington8321]

before I got diagnosed with bipolar 1, I would drink to black out quite often it really is sadly a common thing

[@plantmutual9482]

currently in the process of getting diagnosed with ADHD after also getting diagnosed with bipolar 2 so i WILL be sending this to my therapist because the two of you say what i’m feeling all the time much more coherently than i could ever attempt

[@t_for_testosterone221]

Why is Jarvis so relatable? I just started watching, being a D'Angelo fan and watching your collabs ft. him, and I love your message and I love the way you bounce off each other, love it so much! Sorry for rambling, just felt the need to support and kinda fanboy over y'all.

[@ishopeatsea]

I dont know if you guys read these comments and especially on older videos but I just wanted to say this. I've been pretty sure I had ADHD for probably three years now, and I actually went and got diagnosed and medicated earlier this year and am finally working on it, and I wish I could credit that to you guys but I did actually already take that initiative before I started listening to your podcast. A big part of firstly becoming more and more sure of it and then also getting diagnosed, for me anyway, was about noticing and coming to terms with all the ways that I am weird and different and learning to accept that about myself. But once I was in a space where I was more okay with that, I started listening to your podcast, and I was in this weird space where I was happier and more at peace than I'd been in a long time but also so incredibly hyper-aware of how different I was all the time, and I feel like the next step is learning how to know that I'm different but still feel normal. A lot of ADHD spaces are very focused around this idea of being different together, and it becomes a very isolating experience to be constantly talking about it that way. So I wanted to really thank the both of you for talking about your ADHD struggles, but more specifically for being really real about them and talking about them like they're just normal fine things to experience, even if it's a lot and all the time and feels really isolating. You've really set me on that path of pulling myself out of that headspace. So, thank you both for making me feel normal. I hope you're both having a good week

[@marleykotylak1194]

Me, a (provisional) Psychologist and also a person with ADHD: very into this talk about emotions and experiences. Keep up the good work.

[@awesomedude5558]

Same. I don't have ADHD, though, and I'm not a psychologist, lol. 😅

[@bri9100]

such a good way to promote good mental health check ins with your friend

[@whatwhat7798]

It’s just so god damn refreshing to see two guys openly talking about mental health. I have such a deep appreciation for both of you and what you’ve done with your platform ❤️

[@user-cfcuxygkxxkgxihs]

Jarvis i cannot express to u how much i relate to everything u said about adhd and communication and how our brains work in general lol ik obviously i dont know exactly what u experience but i just wanna say i appreciate u talking about it. It makes me feel more sane and understood lol. Great podcast as always, hope u guys are doing well! :)

[@iruleudrule]

omg right!! I just commented something so similar, it’s awesome to see other people feel the same. I felt like I could never put it into words and he did it really well.

[@mliljegard19771209]

I love this because it’s so conversational it’s so soothing to listen to.

[@ediblenecklace7007]

I love the way you talk Jarvis! It's one of the reasons I love watching your channel!

[@janeth4319]

i like when you guys talk over each other because it makes the conversation feel more natural in a weird way

[@sleepdeprivedjuicebox]

I have a speech impediment and my mouth moves weird too.you actually make me feel slight cooler for it Jarvis. Love this podcast as ever

[@poisonkeyblade]

Trying to get an ADHD diagnosis as an adult can be so painful. I’ve had many doctors tell me that I can’t have it because people grow out of it. It’s ridiculous. I can’t go to people who specialize in it either because USA healthcare is a joke. Thanks for this episode. It was cathartic in many ways.

[@mamesmck5236]

This kind of made me feel weird, like I was listening into a _VERY_ private conversation, and that I should I leave the corridor, but I accidentally stayed for 47 minutes and 45 seconds...

[@imaginareality]

I avoid reading text messages as well because what if they say something bad (even though they won't)? Recently I learned a new term - anticipatory anxiety - and that describes my experience pretty well. For some reason I just get anxious before things (before reading a text message, before making a call, before a barber's appointment, while waiting for my pizza delivery etc.)

[@adebisiakinyemi7833]

Sounds like social anxiety

[@imaginareality]

@@adebisiakinyemi7833 It's maybe a pinch of social anxiety but definitely does not reach pathological levels. I like to make that distinction. I could still do without it, though...

[@vanessaferreira7905]

I’ve never felt so heard and understood. Thank you so much to you both for earnestly talking about these difficult subjects in such a graceful way. Lots of love to you both ❤

[@averyhammer1241]

dude i did not realize that anyone else had anxiety about reading texts and messages and stuff like that, i thought it was just me lmao i have hundreds of texts and stuff that i haven’t opened from all the way back to may and i’ve been isolating myself from all of my friends for the past month because my mental health has been so bad. i have adhd too and like anxiety and depression and it makes me feel a lot better that i’m not just overreacting and that other people actually go through similar things to me

[@consentclub8431]

"I don't have a lisp, my tongue just doesn't go to the right place in my mouth" that is literally what a lisp is, Jarvis ❤️ sincerely, someone with a lisp

[@valentinecore]

i have adhd and have always struggled w literally anything that will give me a short term dopamine fix - when i was a kid i would steal whole bags of candy from my kitchen and eat them all in one night lol, when i got older i tried self medicating w alcohol too. even things like social media or a new hobby i can get detrimentally obsessed with because im just trying to press the happy button. also ive heard (and personally experienced) lots of ppl w adhd mix things like weed and caffeine bc the combo of uppers and downers kind of levels u out

[@lucyp6969]

i've just started listening to the podcast and wanted to start from the beginning. I'm listening to this one whilst doing uni work which is due in tomorrow bcos I rely on the ADHD sense of urgency to hyperfocus on tasks and actually do it. I love that I can feel validated and also just relaxed whilst listening to you guys and cracking on with what I need to do. Super enjoying the podcast so far :) thank you guys for talking with such candour and being able to laugh about it bcos it's genuinely just dead good to hear

[@rainyyjayy]

man i love listening to stuff like this because i feel Seen. like obviously i know a ton of people have the same adhd issues as me and i'm not technically "alone", but it just hits different when you hear people discussing it verbally than it does just reading about people with adhd

[@dadjamnit]

God, y’all’s chemistry is A++

[@shesmyvampire]

Geez guys...stop being so relatable with your ADHD and sadness. I just got diagnosed with ADHD this year and oh my fk my whole life makes sense. Both of you talking about your symptoms are so refreshing and helpful, but you specifically Jarvis, hearing your specific ADHD symptoms they are so similar to mine and seeing you be (relative to the window you're giving us) so successful and a functional human gives me hope. So thank you guys for this podcast...please keep talking cuz I like the way you both speak [sounds, diction, and syntax] and what you talk about.

[@bonestartapes]

this podcast really hit man ..... i have adhd too and it also makes me super frustrated and insecure and i don’t talk about it as much because i worry people are like god who cares everyone has adhd you know? anyway. thank you thank you

[@Teien3]

You guys should look into internalized ableism, not only because I think you would both find it interesting, but I also think it might help with the struggle of feeling like shit when you can't function properly or can't accomplish something.

[@ceebee8218]

Binge watching all these podcasts helps with the loneliness of living abroad. I hope you're both doing well and more will come out when you're ready.

[@wizzytalksalot]

The way I would have never guessed that there’s latency

[@awesomedude5558]

Same lol. XD

[@DevsLikeUs]

I’m pretty sure that this is the show that I would of never known that I needed, great conversation.

[@keithcarrillo8238]

Same! Have u heard some of their older podcast. Some folks were definitely binging. I know I was lol.

[@NewbOoyNS]

Recently discovered Jarvis (also Gold channel and this one), and just wanted comment that you guys really helped me get through these last couple of days.

[@tangled55]

That dude on the left is absolutely beautiful. wow.

[@luizaterra4102]

ty for talking about adhd it actually really helped me a lot

[@brianp3570]

I appreciate both of you for your transpency but am posting this comment to appreciate Jordan for talking about bipolar 2. I don't have it but it's very close to me, and what he says about the ups and downs being natural (chemical) vs driven by sleep cycle irregularity and life events is 1000% on point. It's never an easy condition to live with and requires a lot of self-awareness and management, but it's also not the fiction that is so viciously portrayed in the media, i.e. "bipolar people are dangerous and threatening". The world needs to understand and empathize better but it's tough because until we know someone with it, we don't have a good lens for understanding it, and it's not easy for people to talk about because of the stigma. TLDR; love to da boyz

[@brianp3570]

When someone's Like makes you realize 3 weeks later that you typo'd in the 1st sentence. Pain. Lol

[@xoxdid]

Regarding the alcohol thing, I had avoided it all of my life until college. One of the reasons being that I have trouble moderating myself, being food, alcohol, you name it, I always fall into excess if I don't establish rules. It's been a year and a half since I started drinking socially and as I expected, I drink as if it were water. My rules were that I can drink as much as I'd like socially, but I too prohibit myself from having alcohol in the house. Anyways, I'm gonna get back to not drinking at all, it may be worth it at the moment, but it's not healthy for the brain and stuff. Also since it's binge drinking it's also damaging (I didn't know this while I started drinking)

[@bell_knight]

3:33 I unintentionally do the same mouth things and it bothers me more than anyone I know

[@islacate7251]

i jumped on youtube at exactly the right time :)

[@awesomedude5558]

Jarvis, you don't need to fix your ums and ahs. I think many of us actually like them, since it adds extra humanity to a person. It's like "They said um," or "They said ah." Something everyone says. It really does add a *LOT* of relatability, ya know? It adds humanity, but even without ums and ahs, you are still one of the MOST human, down to earth, kind-hearted, and loving KZbinrs I have ever had the pleasure of watching.

[@thatcarmenkid]

i think as a viewer its important to realize that they know their relation and eachother better than any of us. Jordan may not feel bulldozed like some may see it because he understands the way that Jarvis thinks. he understands an ADHD mind and the need to get the thought out. i say this as someone like Jarvis and who has friends like Jordan who understands and its truly a blessing! not to mention the lag.

[@janbonne]

I get that whole message Anxiety too! Mostly on texts and things I gotta read because I don’t get this much in person of course.

[@j_v_k_]

OOF thank you for speaking up about being afraid of sleep. im in the same boat. good luck to all the sleepy (but scared) boys out there

[@renren4m802]

as someone with a late diagnosis of ASD and ADHD, and dealing with chronic depression since my teen years, boy oh boy to i understand the sentiment that the ADHD is the one that people are most dismissive of but it really feels the most disruptive to my life

[@thenoblegoat7895]

I can't believe I never watched your podcast before it's awesome.