TEAM FORTRESS 2 | A Retrospective

[@blizzy6129]

"You were good son, real good, maybe even the best" - Rick May

[@istoleyunomilesbigmac]

hey i wanted to write that

[@saulgoodman5662]

@@istoleyunomilesbigmac and what's stopping you?

[@istoleyunomilesbigmac]

@@saulgoodman5662 now his comment will be more popular than mine

[@IgnisPeaks]

@@istoleyunomilesbigmac if you think commenting is only about your comment getting popular then you may just quit commenting.

[@int_overflow]

he died, it's sad, let's move on and not spend every waking moment mourning him

[@stop.]

"Sniper is equipped with a sniper rifle" couldn't agree more

[@Menoly]

disagree

[@laakeacreeperyt5821]

why would a sniper be equipped with a sniper rifle???

[@thilsiktonix]

ugh so true bestie

[@davidhong1934]

@@laakeacreeperyt5821 Sniper has a sniper rifle because "sniping's a good job, mate"

[@solid292]

The fandom is still kicking on strong despite it's embarrassing state. This is really well done I adore this a lot, good job on all of this! (The first TF2 meme I ever saw was the Bonus Ducks meme small fact I guess.) I recently just binged your fnaf retro so you covering another one of my favorite games is really cool. Thanks for your amazing content.

[@fartface192]

Plus Valve confirmed an update coming soon

[@CaptainApathetic]

@@fartface192 Gaben will say anything to please a crowd, he isn't really involved in development anymore so his word means nothing til a major update comes out

[@compatriot852]

It's such a tragedy how little attention this game gets from Valve. I have so many fond memories in anticipation of what new update the game would receive back in the day

[@wordswarsandsymphonies]

God yes everyday now is a struggle to get through a single match without bots :( i wish valve gave a shut, there's still a player base of over 100k daily

[@thunderdraco]

Little attention? The game has been updated nonstop for over a DECADE. I think its only natural the game eventually reached this state, christ, most games reach this state in less than a single year.

[@jonesy279]

@@thunderdracoI’m know I’m 2 years late to the party, but (now) 17 years of any support is incredibly rare.

[@miloc290]

23:37 In the original Team Fortress spy wasn't actually a class, it was the name given to a bug that allowed you to spawn with the enemy teams colors.

[@billiam6398]

nah, the bug inspired the class.

[@miloc290]

@@billiam6398 thats what I said, the spy bug inspired the class

[@billiam6398]

@@miloc290 “In the original Team Fortress spy wasn’t actually a class”

[@miloc290]

@@billiam6398 exactly, "spy" in team fortress was the bame of a bug, and to my knowledge a spy class was never added to the original Team Fortress game.

[@mr80s81]

There is a spy class in tfclassic but you are correct that the bug inspired the characters disguise agility

[@nikwoodard8058]

Babe wake up, Sagan just dropped a new retrospective.

[@skybuprofen9834]

*Arena* "Those are the main ones you'll be playing if you just hop into a game" I have not played a match of arena in almost 4 years.

[@mirabile1221]

he also talks about the community being small while it just recently peaked its player counts

[@bobisnotaperson]

@@mirabile1221 yes, but take in consideration the amount of those players actually participating in the community

[@mirabile1221]

@@bobisnotaperson but certainly not small

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

you cant even play an official match of arena what a shame.

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

I was not expecting to see you making a video about this game, but I'm not gonna complain about that though.

[@mateanock4581]

First FNaF, then Gmod, then SCP, then Bo Burnham, (one time half-life) and now TF2? Jeez this man knows everything

[@yankee_07]

TF2 is a heap of nostalgia for me and most everyone i know

[@Zbubzbeez]

It hurts to see the state it's in. I practically grew up playing this game. Still playing today. Game is legendary and I hope it never dies. Rip Rick May.

[@Odium_DOB]

I think everyone or most love tf2 whether you play or not you grew attach to the mercs personalities, when I was too young to buy games and well was a fan of setting sail to the seven seas(you can make your guesses of what I mean), I just loved them and I rewatched them again and again wanting to learn their story more whether that was friendships, their day to day life as a merc or even just their jokes about being very very illegal despite being good at what they do(soldier and medic),they just grew on me and I would of loved a tf2 show but when I learned that it could happen it did break me because it was already well advance that I knew they already disconfirmed it because I heard about it a couple years back, because I random found expiration date and learned of what it was and it's history long after it happened. my heart flew hearing about the fact that there was a possibility WAS. before the realization that I should know with most gaming companies I like, they tend to disappoint or fail in surprisingly new ways.but I remembered all the fan/sfm animations using those characters the gmod skits with them that used outdated memes now adays they were a friendly face and were kind, in a ways sentiment I have for fans who make their own stuff has always impressed me because I was young and always assumed that whatever people drew was offical because it was so good....I was also lucky or too dumb to find the loads and loads of unsafe content....than again I perfered staying on youtubed or random flash games website like coolmath, or some offbrand version of newgrounds(ahh new grounds I wish I was a newgrounds kid but I respect the creators who made their starts there and still do whatever they want there.)as I got older, I of course started realizing I CAN FUCKING DRAW SHIT. and that if I can draw than others could... I mean duh but that meant that the people who made stuff could honestly be from anyone, and people who wanted to better their skills and the sfm animators may not have been the most polished but the most creative in many ways such as the one where scout had to duel a sniper and first to kill the other a 100 times wins, or of tf2 house...or was it called tf2 home those were nice and relaxing and we can't forget the tf2 tubers that exist, such as array seven, mr. paladin, uncle dane I watched them when I didn't have steam or know how to play the game because it was like watching a person who had the treasure you wished for yet you didn't have the key for yourself yet you felt it ever closer as you grew in age or wisdom from your peers or family around you, than I got tf2. on a very shitty comupter a couple years back and my god it was SLOW AS SHIT, but it was fun to bluid to be the spy(but far more fun on a actually good computer that can run games properly fuck linux I just had a bad experience with it)...than I got better at the game and one time when I was just bored I randomly found someone who made an entire dub of the tf2 comics that i had no idea existed, so due to my simple minded curiousity I decided to watch and become more attached to all the characters even ones I push to the side as mostly a cocky asshole(sniper my god he is a good boy in the cannon fuck the bots and how broken sniper can be)learned more about my russain boys backstory his lovely family, and how he is the best man ever, is great and the enjoyment I get from medic screwing over the literally devil as he twists the knife into everyone's backs.than later on while I was on my shitty computer I came across a tf2 fan game that was based off of tf2 (obliviously) and undertale, and it had personality just like all the tf2 characters I knew and grew to love, and respect and hearing about overwatch I quickly felt like it was going to add so many characters that people would be at a lost of who to play or too much choice while a minor problem in early sight shouldn't be underestimated it did lead to the end or atleast my soon end of ever hearing about overwatch because it grew so much that their was too much for me to care or listen to,I had hope that they could do a good thing like tf2...but it did not make me like it better when people were hurting what I would call my boys....aside from that tf2 was better at what it did, while overwatch seemed to fly so close to the falling meteor that is know as tf2 and was burned away due to it wish to get the cosmic stardust left behind in tf2 as it flys to it's end. and I'm am so sorry to anyone who had read all of this, my last real summer is coming to an end so I guess I'm being either more emotional or trying to avoid the worry of the end of summer or that I might fall at my goals in school and embarrass myself or the fact I may fail to get into any college.hell if I'm real stupid I may decide to turn this comment into a youtube video to further avoid either school work or the work of me wanting to make a game but being both lazy and too overall absent minded on how to do that I guess to whoever if anyone is reading this thank you for taking time to listen to the woahs of a 17 year old who is soon approaching the odd world known as adulthood who is afraid yet wishing to cling onto his now fleeting childhood.I hope that you are going to have a good day, I'm not unique to cool at all but I hope you have a lovely day and will do atleast one thing you want to do today as for me I will try to hand out with my mother and enjoy a old tv show so I can continue to feel young and enjoy my mothers almost endless positivity.well see you in the next night I feel some kind of passionate emotion or when or if I finish my game. may we meet reader hahaha yeah that won't happen thanks for atleast taking time to read all of this or even just some of it.

[@davidchopsrose]

Thank you so much for doing this! It means a lot to the people of tf2

[@Garbo_trashcan]

Seeing "Perfectly Balanced" alongside Scorch Shot footage made me actually crack up

[@HappyBlite]

This has quickly become my favorite channel right now. The retrospective series feel like a nicely detailed and satisfying journey through the past Can't wait to see more Sagan Congrats on 100k!

[@RatLordOmega]

I never thought I'd see the day Team Fortress 2 would have retrospectives made in a post mortem manner, and yet here we are.

[@peleg462]

Nothing beats the feeling of seeing a KZbinr that you found recently uploading a retrospective of your favourite game

[@fiercestpond4722]

Tf2? *takes a long drag from a cigarette* Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time…

[@EPWillard]

I remember one tf2 meme where soldier annoyed demoman so demoman annoyed soldier and when soldier went to say "scotland is not a real country" he said "america is not a real country" because demoman had cross scotland off his script and rewrote it

[@kaeyakow]

I used to be so active on tf2 and in the community. I made art, sfms, videos, was known on some servers because i played daily. Its very sad seeing how tf2 has dropped off as someone who's grown up on it. I remember watching jerma and ster_ all the time. I did play a bit recently and its kinda just. Weird. Having no friends who play anymore its very lonely.

[@CoolPlayersVic]

I'm so happy you did a video about this game because I love it and I play it whenever I'm in the mood, despite all the bots trying to ruin it.

[@charles8179]

4:50 "but none are good enough to make the stock weapons obsoletes" well, the Crossbow, the Ubersaw, the Wrangler and the Sandvich are pretty much agreed upon as being better than stock in most situations and are considered META, so yeah. Yes, they have all their downsides, but the upside is so good it overshadows every other unlockables and even stock

[@aetu35]

The Third Degree is a direct upgrade.

[@wobbus]

It really goes to show how well the characters were designed when you know the characters like Heavy but have no idea what a Team Fortress is

[@davidhong1934]

or how Medic is the quintessential healer despite his medical knowledge being... questionable

[@soitscitrus25]

Finally. After all these years tf2 is getting a resurgence

[@eltiolavara9]

it never died

[@Qwerty-zj3rk]

My excitement is beyond belief. Team Fortress has such a special place in my heart. I have never played a single other video game that keeps me coming back for over 7 years, never getting bored enough to put it down for an extended period of time. It may seem silly to feel such a way about just a video game, but that's what's so special about TF2. There never has and never will be a game quite like Team Fortress 2. Overwatch came close, but fizzled out over just a few years. I love TF2, and always will.

[@DiamondDude11]

Truly incredible the game is still going strong and even getting more traffic, like seriously this past Halloween had the highest amount of players and I think it’s been beaten recently! To anyone who hasn’t played it yet, I recommend trying it out.

[@Afish8me2china]

I’ve played this game for 7 months and it’s already taken my spot for 3rd favorite game

[@IndianaJonesTDH]

Dam son for me its been like 5 years. After JI update I was 12 or 13 when I started playing but hey. If you want help or advice I will offer you my services since coach thing is broken

[@Afish8me2china]

@@IndianaJonesTDH Thanks, but I wanna keep it casual

[@jak3y3]

One of the very few online multiplayer games I actually enjoy playing. Most online games today just aren’t fun, it’s the same thing every match and it just gets boring. TF2 is different and unique and that’s what I love about it. It’s just fun, and it’ll never get old.

[@paperkevlar9933]

can we just collectively appreciate how nicely the opening works with music (especially the 1:05 part, made me perform a stupid noise)

[@IgnisPeaks]

What a coincidence, i just got back into fnaf and i get recommended your video, i also recently got into tf2 and you upload a video about tf2. Damn, btw great videos, make more, i appreciate you.

[@lonelyyclone4238]

I will always love Team Fortress 2 and I will always call it a home for me, its been there for me when I lost alot in my life from losing my best friend to a disease and to my depression and its still here for when I need a break from reality aswell. Like most TF2 players I started from the bottom and made my way up into the trading world and now I own a 1 of 1 spelled Gilded Guard😊

[@westernbuildpizzatowerfan6816]

such a treat seeing this, as a 700+ hour tf2 player haha. game is still super active, and whilst bots are a common issue in casual servers, community servers fill in that gap and they are usually bot free.

[@conservativedemocracyenjoyer]

Hands down one of the best games to ever have come out.

[@Ma_ksi]

Holy shit what's your profile pic?

[@conservativedemocracyenjoyer]

@@Ma_ksi Trump in a 1800's uniform

[@Ma_ksi]

@@conservativedemocracyenjoyer Why and is that the Russian uniform?

[@conservativedemocracyenjoyer]

@@Ma_ksi For the memes, and it looks like something Simon bolivar would wear tbh

[@TF2Scout..]

yes

[@Slithering-Pyro]

This was a really underrated video, but a well done one at that. Nice work Sagan :)

[@Dr.Thriller]

I'm so happy that you did a retrospective on tf2. One of my favorite games to play. Ever since my cousin introduced it to me back in 2014 (i think), I have been hooked onto it. Even though i am not good at it especially with some of the classes. But despite my skills on the game it was so much fun and so addictive.

[@locosword3985]

I screamed "Agh, He didn't talk about the BATTLE ENGI!" At the end of the Engineer bit in the beginning.

[@sandvichmuffin4245]

This is legitimately my favorite game of all time and its awsome to see it get abit more spotlight recently

[@expoogaloo]

This game will forever and always be my favorite game of all time, whether you’re new or you’re a grizzled vet, this game just ceases to get old. So much creativity in one video game

[@7ndrew]

We are slowly approaching the point where you can make retrospectives on Jungle Inferno alone :(

[@Stratilex]

I've always sucked at this game. Just like most fps games tho

[@pandemicaunt6341]

I love that, for tf2, you can suck and still enjoy the game. Not a lot of fps game can do this, even worse if the game is multiplayer

[@Qryptic]

Get better 😹🙏

[@what...101]

Somehow this is the only online game I'm good at.

[@elfasto2255]

2,000+ hours and still ass, woo!

[@marcdimartino9118]

@@pandemicaunt6341 Splatoon vibes.

[@bongopod]

i've never been this excited after seeing a youtube notification

[@tomtoms8480]

A excellently made video talking about one of the finest games ever made

[@HanSolo-kd2tb]

Although I may not play it too often these days, I still think this is the best online FPS ever made, and will be for a long time.

[@jacknick8517]

I still play it to this day and i say to y'all this is if not one of the best first person shooter ever

[@mortenandersen4326]

Love your retrospectives, you go into so many details in all of them and I love it, so entertaining. Keep up the good work. Much love from Denmark

[@GuyFromCanada]

Was not expecting this in my sub box, I’m glad you’re covering it!

[@gen-zboomer]

“None are good enough to make stock obsolete” Pryo and Engie melee for starters.

[@davidhong1934]

(cue confused Medic holding a crossbow and Ubersaw)

[@marcinswiecicki6713]

I love how that whole intro tries to hide that you did it all by yourself

[@PicklePyro]

Team Fortress 2 is without question the best game ever made.

[@BillyisAmongUs]

I dunno, have you ever heard of titanfall 2?

[@vect0r200]

@@BillyisAmongUs nah, thats shit

[@ethhics]

I think Half Life is better, but this is not really comparable

[@hsgame4088]

@@ethhics GTA games def take first spots for me

[@MinecraftWorld1954]

In my personal opinion, the best game depends on the person. For me, the best game I’ve played is Minecraft, but maybe it’s TF2 for you.

[@PixelPalettes]

I've never played TF2 but me and my friend got Build-a-Bears the other day (for shits and giggles) and we named ours Medic and Pyro so that's fun

[@NickOnYoutube]

I’m very happy that he mentioned demoknight, I love playing demoknight.

[@alliu6562]

Ok there is something absolutely *joyous* about the absolutely iconic tf2 soundtrack. The cheesy brass with that unique 60s sound filter, the absolutely unnecessary cheeriness it has, and of course, the way it sounds like a parody of James Bond that’s still in on the joke. The characters themselves are absolutely fantastic. They are the perfect study on character design principles from a design, artistic, and programming perspective. So in case this comment and my engineer pfp doesn’t indicate already, I absolutely love this game a ridiculous amount. Not only is the gamer part of the community alive and well, the fandom part is also. There are still dozens of active artists on social media and their work still can hit hundreds, if not thousands, of likes. If you look around on KZbin, there are still ccs making videos. It’s a community that’s lived solely on its own merits, no thanks to valve. Valve is literally ignoring a goldmine of potential because they refuse to touch the game despite its timeless value and vibrant, surprisingly active community.

[@aravman2738]

This game is still going great, love the video!

[@ThePastaMiner]

i cannot tell you how excited i was to watch this!! amazing video on an amazing game!

[@notgabriel8624]

To this day this is still the only game I’d get a pc for, it means so much to me even though I’ve never played it. I’d love for something huge to happen one day and we see a new title or remaster or something

[@mohamadparadox2453]

what i want is valve to go at it like 2007/2011 when they were at their best and an update on tf2 that will ensure it's player base and general span

[@RipDippler]

I wish I had frown up with a pc so I could be nostalgic for games like this, but I guess I should just be glad I'm able to enjoy them now as an adult

[@mewliter6902]

I'm never gonna leave this fandom.

[@juggftw4868]

Well this made me feel old, it’s always great when a game you play daily gets a retrospective

[@horseeatsdogfood5721]

Yet another fantastic video! Keep up the great work!

[@Heron_goat]

One of my favorite games of all times^^

[@palithepancake2873]

This is such a well done video and brings back so many memories. When I was like 11 I was playing this game, and to make new friends to play with I’d talk on voice chat and friend people who were nice to me (Safety is questionable), and me being an 11 year old girl most people would be rude or just ignore me, so I didn’t get a lot of friends that way. But! One day I met a lovely person and that one little interaction pretty much shaped who I am and more specifically my interactions on the internet. I remember so many fun times with that group on that server. I’ve long since stopped playing, I don’t talk to any of them anymore and I believe the server shut down quite a few years ago but If anyone from bonks fun box is reading this and knows me *Thank you for making my childhood great, and for putting up with my 11 year old antics :)* I don’t think they realized how much that meant to baby me

[@TerryMeme]

I am glad a lot of people have been covering this game. It's beginning to feel big once again. Just wish valve cared as much as the community does...

[@Poteitoe]

still one of my favorite games to this day

[@littletowns31415]

Never expected you to make a video on tf2 but still a good video ether way! Keep it up, man!

[@acebee46]

Yooo wasnt expecting this from you, hype

[@experiencemaster1743]

What I find funny about the bot crisis is recently some Community member pulled a Thanos and went "Fine, i'll do it myself" and have created bots that only target bots and ignores players, and given the way the current bots work, they detect other bots and CAN'T target them (Similar to when we found out bots can't actually hit sentry guns due to the lack of a head hitbox)

[@Karma_Miguel]

I'm so glad you made a video on the best game ever made. respect+

[@consumetheproduct]

24:55 “scout would get a scatter gun instead of a smg” it’s acutely a nail gun. I’m pretty sure it worked similar to medics needle gun

[@alexthebadjokemaker7328]

Team Fortress 2 is my favourite and probably my most played game ever, but seeing it infested by bots and mistreated by valve breaks my heart. I'd kill for valve to hire full time developers to port it to source 2 and have it get constant updates like in the past

[@likearushshotthroughyou]

oh that's EPIC, watched the whole vid now, i can't really join because i'd have a really high ping, but good for you, man! i hope you have fun! such a good video, i was so scared you were going to look over some "minor" things, like trimping or huntsman sniper! love, love, love the video, love this game, love content about this game. the jerma clips, oh, so good, so many memories (tho i wasnt really there at the time). i wish this game would come back to its former deserved glory. thank you for this amazing video

[@mundanest]

Valve be like: _creates the best games you’ve ever played to leave it by the wayside indefinitely_

[@valc4456]

Great Retrospective on TF2! It's nice to see a classic revisited. By any chance, have you ever played the LISA Rpg?

[@nicosledakis7452]

so much passion in this man

[@KaiScitherdudeKingOvalord1247]

Absolute classic. Definitely the best game I’ve played.

[@MeckLords]

I've been watching the retrospective videos all day and I just noticed this video came out today lol

[@justm6-jac0b23]

Yo the effort you be putting in your vids are amazing

[@bahaedablackaceenthusiast9955]

This game is very underrated it fun as hell

[@yulthedoof6907]

16:51 *Eyes and mouth start to bleed* A- A- AMONGUS

[@katethenesuneqom]

15:20 OH FUCK- MIMI! FEM PYRO! THE HENTAI MAPS! IT'S ALL HERE-

[@IceSick88]

One of the best games ever. I played for years. Right till about Hats...played till they started adding alternate primarys subs and meles. The game kept going. So crazy.

[@jjayala5512]

This game had an feel that could not been beat during 2007-2014.

[@HenryGreenEngine3]

Overwatch and Siege are TF2 contemporaries? They released like 10 years apart though...

[@roboninja6584]

IM SO GLAD THIS EXSITS

[@fubu72]

Seeing Jerma become the imposter sus face guy was so weird to me because I only remembered him as that guy Star liked to bully like a decade ago

[@rogercheetoofficial]

honestly the tf2 community is still really great, my only complaint is that i have to disable hightower when looking for a match because i get annoyed with people who turn that map into a 45 minute long deathmatch map

[@TeethbatFGC]

Loved the guitar at the end

[@hobobobette]

Sagan is so hot. The bit at the end of him playing engineer's little tune?? I'm swooning.

[@DefconFallout]

Been waiting for this one

[@killingtime8652]

‘Stock weapons’ Demo: is holding the iron bomber

[@shotgungamer2898]

As someone that has over 8000 hours in TF2 And 2000 of that being in third party competitive leagues, your views on the game make me happy, I started this game the exact same way Voodoo trade servers created who I am!

[@RIP2UALL]

TF2 is a timeless masterpiece.

[@RandyBurgertime]

Overwatch and Siege aren't TF2's contemporaries. They are contemporary, as in they they're more current, but TF2 has about a decade on either of them at least, so contemporary in the other sense, which is "came out at the same time and are comparable on that basis" doesn't really apply. They're a whole generation of games apart.

[@RealRandomCuts]

It feels really sad that the word "used to" was used so often, makes me tear up.

[@lt2660]

ive never heard the conch being called overpowered before, the phlog sure but i think that reputation is unwarranted anyways since phlog pyros are easy to kill once you realise how to abuse a pyro who doesn't have air blast.

[@dab316TV]

Okay, youb talked about community, so if it's okay, I'd like to take a trip down memory lane with my 2 favorite TF2 memories. First was just a goofy night where the server I was in had all talk on, we changed our names on Steam to have Pokemon references, and sang Disney songs while we played xD. The other was we played a game on Bad Lands that you can keep capping and recapping control points. The game went on for 2 hours, I realized we were never gonna win, but we didn't have to lose. My team turtled up with 10 engineers, one pyro to spy check and a medic until we went to a time limit draw. If a sentry went down, we swarmed the new one and had it to level 3 in seconds, to date my favorite game of TF2 I ever played.

[@spaceman466]

I just started playing again and you do this

[@charles8179]

I like how most of your retrospectives are of horror games but you just made some of GMod and TF2, which are the polar opposite of horror... I hope you'll eventually cover the rest of the Orange Box (as well as Half-Life 1 and Portal 2)

[@pomgrenade9865]

the man did a complete fnaf retrospective and right after that , a tf2 one, thank you so much for these masterpieces

[@Hamantha]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one at that