2023 Honda Civic Type R - Brutally Honest 1-Year Ownership Review

The 2023 Honda Civic Type R isn't perfect, but by unplugging a few things and installing Integra Type S parts you, can get darn close.
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Disabled active sound control
315 horsepower @ 6500 rpm, 310 lb-ft of torque from 2600 to 4000 rpm
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Curb weight: 3188 lbs
MPG: 22 City / 28 Highway
MSRP: $44,390
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0:00 Intro
0:38 Current state of car
3:30 Complaints
4:32 How to fix carplay/infotainment problems
6:35 Continued Thoughts
8:43 Favorite Mods
12:38 Driving Impressions
15:13 Fun Factor & Value
17:57 Final Thoughts
21:51 vs. Integra Type S
23:49 Rock guards
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[@MrMasterDurgs]

Only thing I hate about the Type R is that I can’t afford it lol.

[@touayaaj84]

Keep grinding brother, you will get there. I thought i would never be able to afford a Supra. I got one and paid it off in 2 years.

[@defaultlogos2976]

​@touayaaj84 What year did you get?

[@nukeninmgt1504]

​@@touayaaj84 Hey thanks for being positive, dude. We need more of that these days :)

[@touayaaj84]

@@defaultlogos2976 2021. I bought it brand new in 2021

[@lucasrem]

The old Type R is good too !

[@rrennnerr]

Love my FL5. I picked one up December of 2022 and put 26,500 miles on it within the year. Someone ran a light, totaled it, and I replaced it with another FL5.

[@GelDoesDrive]

I pray that doesn’t happen with mine. Purchased mine in December of 2023 and my grandmother helped me. She recently passed away and if I lost it to someone not paying attention I’m never gonna be the same😭

[@gng296]

@@GelDoesDrive rip granny! she a real one for that, enjoy bro!

[@8titanium8]

Love my FL5. Owned it for 6 months. Was literally saying yesterday to my daughter I love everything about this car except for the Apple CarPlat. Have just gone out to the garage and disabled the maps. Fingers crossed Topher you may have changed things big time for me.

[@GelDoesDrive]

@@8titanium8 I just did that same map thing and it immediately became so much smoother and less laggy

[@reginald8703]

26k miles within a year is crazy. I have a ‘21 G80 M3 and it only has 15.2 k miles on the ODO

[@colbywarner2457]

Congrats on baby number 2 Topher!!

[@awnis001]

Topher be laying straight pipes n shit non-stop man...good for him!

[@driftkinganeezy]

LOL @@awnis001

[@1anre]

​@@awnis001you're cray-cray. Hahaha This is the comment

[@Sendies]

HUGE miss by Honda, not making enough of these for everyone who wants one. It's the perfect car for enthusiasts starting families, who need practicality in their track toy. But dealers have made sure that it's priced for people with Porsche money, and so out of reach for the type of person it was built for. I have nothing but F U's to give to Honda for allowing it to come to this.

[@MrLameNut]

You took the words right out of my mouth! Yes! The dealership has screwed us all over. The markups are foul. 🤬

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

Another miss by honda -- offer up a rally inspired version of this car. AWD, same engine and tranny. There is a pretty sizeable market share for a car like that.

[@flipczech]

Nice Type R! $50,000 is a lot of money and I know costs have gone up but wow! Would love to drive one. Back in the day I paid 10,500 for my 1990 CRX Si and it was made in Japan! It’s still awesome and makes me feel a certain way when driving it. Is Type R made in Japan too? For that price, I would hope so.

[@claytonhart7653]

Honestly i didn't have any issue finding mine most dealers have one just depends on when honda does production

[@pablonator3000able]

​@claytonhart7653 it's easy finding one, hard to find one under 50k though.

[@TheTopher]

*Purchased December 2022

[@expertise8953]

lol

[@porfiriato84]

We all get it. Sometimes telling time is hard lol. Happens to me a lot

[@rolandcarter6500]

So they did purchased in December!

[@noob.168]

@@porfiriato84 Covid made the timeline in the past 5 years even weirder.

[@porfiriato84]

@@noob.168 oh definitely. I say the same thing too. Everything just seems murkier bc of those crazy times we went through.

[@adk7962]

I can’t believe it’s been a year! Thanks for always taking us on the drive. And congrats on boy number 2!

[@boots_n_coots]

Im a guy who’s owned a variety of cars over the years but my FL5 is my first Honda. Brutally honest 1-month review - I am lovin’ it! Since I live in a warmer climate, some of the Topher’s complaints don’t apply for me. But I’m looking forward to playing follow-the-leader as he mods and refines his car. Thanks Mr. T!

[@1anre]

Wish there's a winter-ready equivalent of the FL5, that's not a WRX VB

[@PrimeHorizon794]

Naw right I live in az and my only complaint is the rubber between the hood n the windshield is coming loose

[@PaulKolbusz]

It's been a joy watching your channel evolve over the better part of the last decade. Congrats on numero dos!!

[@bracemasterplus]

Kinda bummed I hadn’t found your channel sooner. What a great, straightforward honest review

[@Dusty204]

Been with this car since day one! Been such a cool journey to watch you drive 🎉

[@NBARedj]

on god we love the topher, proud of you, love all the vids congrats on the baby boy man

[@Chilly613]

Thanks for that tip about the infotainment system. I disabled the navigation and its running so much better on my '23 Sport Touring.

[@xzeflipb818]

You're not kidding about the rough roads. I'm leaning so hard to pick up an FL5 at local dealership. Thanks for the update.

[@goatsplitter]

Thanks for the update. Unrelated, I'd love to see you do more in the future with ol Tedward. Love videos where Topher meets Tedward.

[@dasmg]

I'll be keeping my FK8 for a long time. owning a Type-R has been such a treat.

[@Tdfries]

Really great review. You did a good job mentioning likes and dislikes without being biased. Your criticisms made alot of sense and you were able to make the points without being overly critical.

[@varunbmtl082495]

That tip about the Navigation is clutch! Thanks!

[@Dai1lest]

i recently got my FL5 in november and got a flat a few days ago...its currently at the dealership getting the tire changed and it's first maintenance done on it. I havent been this happy daily driving the FL5 since i had to get rid of my FK8 because of work issues and i honestly love the FL5 and love driving it ... its insane how much i actually enjoy just driving even for daily stuff, and i do agree with some of the annoying things, but if you find a way past it...its just amazing.

[@SouthFL5]

This video spoke to me. Can’t wait to do these on the FL5 thanks a lot!

[@Gioz92_fL5]

Purchased mine 2023 in may here we are June 2024 and 22,300 miles never a dull moment I love it

[@logankimp5563]

So……you just won my subscription bc I hv a 2024 st civic and I’ve been having the same issues you’ve been having. This video has helped me ALOT

[@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus]

Believe in Jesus and you will be saved he died for our sins he’s coming soon

[@logankimp5563]

@@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus that is very cryptic, random and scary. I believe tho but that was outta pocket Ngl.

[@A-Ylover0FtheLordJesus]

@@logankimp5563 God send his children to spread the gospel to the lost to save them , Jesus is really coming , rapture is real , have a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ

[@Rohgamu]

How's the driving experience? I probably can't afford one but I'm curious

[@struggle.R]

Great reviews as always man, you're videos helped me make the decision on my fe1

[@1anre]

Si's are the unspoken gems of this car gen thatre budget friendly

[@anakinskywalker9752]

Got DE5 a couple of weeks ago, as s2k and previous fk8 owner, I’m happy with my car

[@johncozine822]

Finally, a solution to the melting Waze screen! Thank you!

[@axledog7297]

Loving my FL5. I would recommend Acuity linkage bushings and Hybrid detent springs - that'll put your shifter right where you want it.

[@yukonstriker1703]

Lol. Shouldn't have to be doing all that on a 2023 Honda.

[@axledog7297]

@@yukonstriker1703 "All that?" I'm guessing you've never modified a car or understand OEM cost and design constraints? "LOL"

[@yukonstriker1703]

​​@@axledog7297 Hmmm... My former car was a 2008 CSRT-4. Modded from stock 285hp to 400hp. Full bolt ons and a tune. Best 1/4 mile run was 13.362 @ 112.8mph. I have no idea though... 😂😂 Ironically, now own a fully stock 2006 Civic Si FG2 Coupe. Cheers,

[@1anre]

What's the total cost for those?

[@1anre]

​@@yukonstriker1703why the decision to stick with stock now?

[@retrograde11]

Good insights. Congrats on baby boy!🎉

[@RomanKozlov007]

Great video! Congratulations with finally owning your dream car! And congratulations with a baby boy!

[@yayitsjepoy]

congrats! :) don't worry, we will wait when your ready

[@honeybadger006]

I love the family-man commentary, especially about how the car seats fit 👍

[@adzer0_0]

As someone who's looking to buy one of these, this was helpful, thanks for your honest thoughts!

[@whosssstaco]

Thanks for the review I was planning on buying one of these in 15 years.

[@QueTheChaotic]

Your enthusiasm for the CTR really made me appreciate my Type S. There's only 1 car I consider an upgrade and it's a CT5 V Blackwing. You're right about driving in the winter. These aren't that fun in snow

[@jaddyrose9318]

Props to you bro, any techy person knows to go in the backend like you did and disable or enable shit to make computers run smoothly, I do this even with the newest iPhone’s

[@DAWGs_EK9]

Been watching for a while! Have appreciated hearing your thoughts on the FL5 and FK8. A buddy of mine just picked up a Boost Blue FL5 and I got to ride with him the other day on a majestic curvy road…thing is an absolute beast! Of course blows my EK9 out of the water but both are such awesome cars! If you’re ever in western NC let me know! ✌🏻

[@UnstoppableMileage]

I just bought one last week and I love it. CW 2024 Type R off the showroom floor

[@dcyxc2004]

Are you the guy who also has a GR corrolla who drives a lot?

[@fredyg91]

Did you pay sticker?

[@lancethomas5701]

@@fredyg91he 100% got ripped off just so he could own it lol

[@UnstoppableMileage]

@@dcyxc2004 yes that's me

[@UnstoppableMileage]

@@fredyg91 yes

[@c.f.1133]

Regarding "asset adjustment", I'd say nope. I've found 3 in my state within 250 miles and all 3 still have a $8k-$10k markup, with dealers refusing to negotiate. Bummer.

[@THroneXII]

Thats just sad. I believe its the same shit in ny. Every dealer is shit in ny.

[@blueberrycobbler]

@@THroneXIINew England has some for MSRP (Championship White) and some others with 2-3k over. I just bought one in New Hampshire last weekend for MSRP.

[@98mahin]

Same in canada. Dealers say allocations are sold for 2024-2025 but will have 2 in the lot with 20k markups. Honda’s losing customers because of scammy dealers.

[@1anre]

2026-2027 is the last time they'd ever make ICE TypeRs. The markups when those final models are veing rolled our of factory will even be insaner. Better snap yours up now

[@1anre]

​@@98mahinCanada is the worst. Particularly in Ontario. The dealerships brag that they won't get you a FL5 till 2026 and they want a 5K deposit down. Aren't they all lunatic ?

[@skabliggum7313]

I'm buying a Type R very soon. Really appreciate your video!

[@fl5reezy]

I love my FL5 too, best car I ever own so far. Picked it up May 2023 and put 18k miles within the past 10 months.

[@SuperBrownDawg]

PETITION TO NAME THE BABY BOY TOPHER!!! 🎉

[@SuperBrownDawg]

OR CHRIS

[@reallymentalpig1173]

Topher sounds horrible

[@garrettcasper338]

Topher Jr/ TJ

[@SuperBrownDawg]

@@garrettcasper338 oh my god. literally going to be the coolest kid in school

[@The_Noticer.]

Tophy McTophface

[@Majelvey]

Congrats on the upcoming baby. There is a Boost Blue FL5 available at MSRP like 20 miles from me and I am ALMOST in the position to pull the trigger on that.

[@Mischief_ZD8]

Thanks for the tip on disabling nav. System is much smoother now.

[@chrissimmons9969]

Love mine. I had it for less than a year and have 18k miles on the clock. Absolutely no reliability issues including the infotainment system. It has never locked up. I have the ITS damper module mod as well,but I don’t find the difference as dramatic as others although I’m still glad I did it. I’ve made two suspension mods being Cusco rear sway bar and strut bar. I am also going to keep the ECU stock. The FL5 is just a joy to own and drive.

[@TheTopher]

Awesome to hear! How’s the Cusco rear sway bar?

[@chrissimmons9969]

@@TheTopher I really haven’t had a chance to to hit the twistys in any real way but it’s seems to make a noticeable difference in its flat cornering when launching into an entrance ramp. The Cusco sway bar is very beefy and seems extremely solidly built. They advertise a 138 to 143% added stiffness to the OEM stock bar.

[@1anre]

Is there any rev Hanh going from gear 1 to 2 on tge FL5 while on stock tune?

[@AznGlenny07]

Love your ride! Big fan of FL5 and FK8.

[@benderaviation]

Love my FL5. Picked one up two weeks ago. It's everything my 2005 RSX-S wished it was back in the day. It's a riot to drive and I haven't even taken it above 5000 rpm yet. I can't imagine tuning it for more power, totally not needed. The way it handles is insane as well, the second the differential kicks in powering through a corner it's like the car locks on to train tracks.

[@angelicemperor2686]

As a fellow RSX owner. I would love to upgrade to either the CTR or ITS. A k20 turbo is the way to go. Unfortunately for me, both are out of my price range. So I would have to settle for the SI or Integra Aspec and lose the k20 spirit. Lol. I am struggling with deciding to get one of them and sell my RSX.

[@MajorAddiction]

Congrats on the baby

[@Thoravious]

Nice, been waiting for a new FL5 vid. :)

[@gbarton800]

Good review with valuable insights. Thanks for sharing!

[@rightlanehog3151]

Chris , Congratulations on the expanding family. 🥳🥳🥳🥳 Are you already looking for a Grand Highlander XLE Hybrid on sensible 18" rims? 😉Getting back to the Type R, I wish it was shaped like a traditional hatchback rather than a lift back. For a car of this size, a squarer roof line would help accommodate taller adults.

[@dmarker21]

You might be able to add a heated steering wheel. I have the dealer installed one on my Type S and it's great. It might fit on the Type R, worth looking into. Also, I hope you keep your son intact.

[@RedlineGaming007]

Will disabling OE Navigation remove the Speed Limit display on the instrument cluster?

[@alexp6409]

No, that’s all from the camera system for LKAS.

[@grahmdoughty]

it does not

[@superbros1690]

I agree, Honda Civics have some really magic into that, and you see that even in the base editions, they drive much more differently compared to many cars, as you progress from the base, sport, si, type r, you see that magic amplified. One day Il probably get a type r to really express the honda tribute.

[@lucasrem]

Same as Golf GTi etc, cheap, lil faster as mums version.

[@peter9930]

I just bought a 2019 civic type r a couple weeks ago after years of watching videos of it. It lives up to the hype! These are special cars.

[@andrewramlakhan2264]

Love your videos. I also did the front resonator delete, type s ads module, and falken azenis on my type r. My only gripes with this car are the interior rattles and squeaks

[@digitalazia]

Sold my S2K as I needed more practical car , got the Fl5 done 8K … very practical and very fun to drive … I don’t have three carplay issue as it’s very smooth with me … The one we get in our country has factory spare tyre and also alcentara steering wheel …

[@quanvu6005]

you made my day bro!

[@goldentrucker7921]

Love mine. Drove it on a 300 mile road trip to South jersey an back. Got about 34mpg. I'm on 18" Enkei with continental dws 06 plus. I need to do the type S mods next

[@iN-Mtz]

Glad to hear that the markups for these cars have lessened in some places. Unfortunately, they are still very much an issue where I'm from, with the Type R going for over $60k and the Integra Type S nearing $80K. If they ever come back down to earth I would love to get my hands on one.

[@1anre]

You're from Mauritius?

[@dream431ca]

Regarding your carplay issue, Honda provided an OTA update last December for my 2022 civic which completely resolved all of the carplay issues. No more freezing, screen issues, lagging, everything is solved. Check for updates. It may come to the Type R later.

[@allankirk8336]

Topher has really changed my perspective on cars and I’m eager to learn A LOT from him. Maybe meeting him one day ❤😅

[@Twraus]

How do you like it compared to your BRZ for day to day fun?

[@Car00071]

Interesting fix for the CarPlay! I have a ITS and my car does not come with factory navigation like yours does. I have very minimal CarPlay drops and it seems to happen in certain areas (like near the airport) maybe due to signal interference or something.

[@Jay_812]

I owned an FK8 and now the DE5 Type S. I love the platform but I do miss the Type R seats!

[@wompwompwomp4579]

Never had anything Honda till I bought a 2016 civic lx 5 months ago and I love it, I’m wanting to get another civic and I’m thinking about getting the type r this time

[@XxDrPepperxX68]

Watching this in my FL5, right after disabling Honda navigation 🤣 thanks for the tip

[@FL5_OGryan405]

So will this fix the issue of Apple CarPlay constantly connecting and unconnecting? Or is this a different issue? I don’t have much problem with it glitching up just always unconnecting. Super annoying

[@douglaskrueger357]

Any thoughts or plans for lowering springs?

[@Bluebird_43]

Great video! I'm also thinking about getting one. How satisfied are you with the audio system? Is the Bose system installed here?

[@100rando7]

Great review! Thank you!

[@Tdfries]

This review is helping me decide if I want to go this direction coming from Audi/VW products. So far I’m feeling good about making the switch based on what you said.

[@1anre]

Did swapping out the stock TypeR damping module for the TypeS damping module void your warranty? Cause folks will ask of a couple of hundred buck($500 max) will be worth losing the warranty on the rest of the Type R for

[@vlj1133]

Two questions: 1. Has the Type S module swap eliminated the excessive bounciness of the stock FL5 suspension, which appears to be too bouncy even in Comfort mode. 2. Is the stock fake engine noise tolerable with it set to Low?

[@Tragic_778]

How are the falken tires holding up, just ordered some for my explorer ST. In Michigan as well

[@mrturner4620]

I love you bro, you make some killer content ❤

[@aidangoodwin2673]

Yo love your content i love seeing how its like to be in such amazing cars and love to see a fellow MICHIGANDER doing it too.

[@pau7478]

Thanks for that infotainment tip, that should hopefully solve the same gripe I have with my FL5. I’m considering doing a middle resonator delete instead of the smaller one for a bit more noise, combined with the valve mod I got from your earlier video.

[@ryng2k1]

You’re one lucky lad for having this car

[@KG-te9pp]

Hey what kind of suspension set up did you get ?please even for my Type r I would like to change it

[@p0werl0ve]

white & black on the outside with red interior looks great

[@estacaotech]

Thats an awesome car, sometimes I wish cars were accessible here in Brazil, the Type R barely came here by independent imports and the old ones are also hard to find and the price asked is above a common house price.. I'm barely able to keep my old 2000 civic that I bought with 200k km but its going strong. Honda makes great cars.

[@juanritanjaya6254]

Thanks for sharing the video. I was wondering if you drove FK8 and how does it compare to FL5? Im in indonesia and the markup they charge for FL5 is nuts, almost double the price of used FK8. The gundam looks isnt for everyone i guess.

[@grahmdoughty]

I agree that it doesn’t really make sense to add more power. Do you think you’ll do any cooling mods? I just got mine in December and haven’t taken it to the track yet but curious how it is going to hold up stock.

[@TheTopher]

With the heat on I haven’t had any issues with overheating on track, that’s good enough for me here in MI!

[@spencermeek1841]

What if I don’t switch out the suspension? Is it gonna suck as a daily driver?

[@artemlobov4239]

Congrats on the baby man.. I honestly liked the bigger wing but I'm also someone with a wrx so who knows lol

[@Newyen6MT]

Acuity sells upgraded shifter cable bushings and shifter base bushings. Those two will make the shifter feel a bit more sharp and the shifter won't flex as much when hard shifting. You can also try upgraded detent springs in the transmission for a heavier feel going in and out of gears. I have all 3 with the stock shifter in my 9th gen Accord and it feels great.

[@mustachemulligans9846]

I know you've been in several FK8 2017/2018 models, how well does the interior hold up in those from what you've seen? I've noticed in my 2023 GR86 the plastic in the center console and door panels scratches super easy. Seems like every day I get in it I notice another few marks which sucks. I'm not wearring a bunch of jewelry or anything soooo no clue why. Considering buying a 2017 Type R with 35k miles on it.

[@christophersantiago6532]

After I get the family mini van. Will be working for my dream car 😌🥹 I can’t wait !❤

[@null1909]

Been waiting for this, awesome timing 😊

[@DuskSkullin]

As someone that’s owned an 2023 civic si for a year and a month… I still enjoy driving it every day. 12k miles on here!

[@FunFiction704]

how do you feel towards the elantra n vs this car?

[@mharro88]

Love the honest review! Congratulations on the new baby coming a long. Im in the same boat actually which leads me towards why i went with the Elantra N or i30 sedan N as we call it here in Australia. No doubt honda have brought back some of their 90s magic but after test driving both and having owned a fk8 I actually bought a I30N sedan over this for 20k AUD less and couldnt be happier. Its so much more comfortable and just as capable on track. If you're a Honda fan i get it but for everyone else objectively the N is a better deal, especially here in Australia where we get more if a luxury N trim than the states. The moment you start turning off stock features (like something as significant as suspension) from a car thats already overpriced to begin with to make it more livable, that's when you should've probably looked elsewhere.

[@Illuminatisevil]

😂 Type R is way better

[@chrissmith2501]

Thank you for the advice for the infotainment system much much better

[@clustrone]

Did you find that it also prevents android auto navigation from working? When I do this I can search and set a destination in android auto, but I cannot actually start the trip.

[@BrzBoyz831]

Got it late 2022 , so far best daily and even camping in it without a hustle 👏🏼

[@davek8706]

Better interior than I expected

[@syazwanabdull4835]

Love this car

[@leftright2]

what made you get this over the manual supra?

[@kalus1019]

Do type r seats fit in the si without costume railings?

[@Alex_Zvada]

Nice I have a ‘22 Si and it’s been great. I’ve never had infotainment issues but that makes sense because the Si doesn’t have navigation

[@belovedLion80]

Ya dig

[@A_guan]

I would recommend the Prl rear motor mount. I have it on my integra type s and It makes a noticeable difference and NVH is pretty minimal after a couple weeks of breaking it in.

[@jdmrider]

This was one of the cars i was considering for a fun family hauler well the fk8 at the time. I looked into fk8, ISF, and ‘16 SS. ISF only had 4 seats so that was out, type r had 6MT and seats 5 but overall just maybe a bit too small for the car seat we were using and the stroller we had. The SS checked pretty much checked all the boxes 6mt, ls3, 4 doors, seats 5, and huge trunk. I wouldve loved to check out a m340i or GSF but none in my area in my price range. Type r definitely looks like a fun car around corners, and would love to drive one someday. Congrats on the addition to your family.

[@parthic7743]

Does every FL5 come with Bose sound system? Because my doesnt have it.