Here's Exactly What You DON'T Get With A Brand New 'Affordable' Jeep Wrangler!

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#Jeep #Wrangler #Willys
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
0:57 - Willys Sport Features
2:12 - Power Features (Or Not)
3:20 - Lighting
4:15 - Interior
6:46 - Exterior
9:08 - Powertrain
10:18 - Off-Road Capability
12:44 - Final Thoughts

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@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad 2 жыл бұрын
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@peaceonearth8693
@peaceonearth8693 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of two-wheeled vehicles for sale in the U.S. that don't have air-conditioning as standard. :-)
@oldschoolginger
@oldschoolginger 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at a 2 door willys sport with AC being the only option until my wife decided SHE wanted the jeep then it became more expensive lol
@BYLRPhil
@BYLRPhil 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using OnX for over a year now, love it!
@The_Opinion_of_Matt
@The_Opinion_of_Matt 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Tommi do a upgrade/accessory series on his Jeep. No heated seats, but does the after market offer affordable heated seat covers that plug into the cigarette lighter/power port? Will a Rubicon's electronically disconnecting front sway bar fit and work on the Willy's Sport?
@tgamble803
@tgamble803 2 жыл бұрын
I like the barebones stripped down aspect of this Jeep, but I cannot get my mind wrapped around that it was 35k!! That’s insane to me for what you get.
@myyoutubename152
@myyoutubename152 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Maybe 30k would be understandable, but then again the Wrangler is a cash cow for FCA
@ghostlegit
@ghostlegit 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my nissan frontier brand new mid range model was 30k and will last longer than this jeep!!
@jamesaandf
@jamesaandf 2 жыл бұрын
He paid less than $32k for the Wrangler. The difference includes taxes and other buying costs, which would apply to any vehicle he bought in his state.
@aarongerman7857
@aarongerman7857 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesaandf nearly 10% sales tax in boulder
@tomahawk7259
@tomahawk7259 2 жыл бұрын
It blow's my mind that its $35k and doesn't come with power locks or remote start.
@ROBinJVILLE
@ROBinJVILLE 2 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the manual windows and locks. Wranglers get wet and the less electronics the better. Those windows will crank forever. I love it Tommy, I think u made a good purchase.
@floridaman7
@floridaman7 2 жыл бұрын
My dodge minivan would have a plastic piece break and the electric window would fall in the door once a year
@jamesaandf
@jamesaandf 2 жыл бұрын
@@floridaman7 yes, I replaced quite a few of those plastic gear straps on my ‘89. Fortunately, they were a cheap and easy fix. My ‘95 had a better setup and lasted for over 250,000 miles.
@stacksmasher
@stacksmasher 2 жыл бұрын
This dude got ripped off. Stop making excuses for poor value because even after 7 years of hard off roading my Tacoma does not have any moisture issues with "Electronics" lol!
@jmanlinc
@jmanlinc 2 жыл бұрын
Electric windows are just as reliable as manual, only difference is they see many more cycles than manual so may wear out do to use. No wiring in the door would be nice if you are frequently removing the doors. The manual mirrors are a deal breaker for me especially if you have multiple drivers
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 2 жыл бұрын
Is this guy exaggerating or are wranglers windows really unreliable? I’m thinking about a jeep for my next vehicle but sheesh if they can’t even get the windows right
@joezephyr
@joezephyr 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, as you exit your Jeep, lock the door from the inside. When you get out push it shut. It will now be locked so you don'y need to lock it with the key. 1980's technology!
@patricklinkous
@patricklinkous 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to lift the door handle as you shut it? I always loved that safety feature on my 85 Corolla.
@prime77089
@prime77089 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why so many people had to call a locksmith in the 80’s…
@patricklinkous
@patricklinkous 2 жыл бұрын
@@prime77089 Now that I'm reaching farther into my memory banks, my Miata didn't have that feature and I routinely locked myself out until I got one of those AAA wallet keys.
@scottbruce9872
@scottbruce9872 2 жыл бұрын
@@prime77089 Not me. Locked the key inside car so many times that knew exactly how to get in.
@tripleseven8361
@tripleseven8361 2 жыл бұрын
Who knew…?
@dcl97
@dcl97 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is I'm sure some of that de-contenting actually costs them money. Manufacturer component costs for a complete power window assembly are $20-$30 per window. Considering a likely low take rate on the manual windows, development costs, extra manufacturing and logistics complexity, it hardly makes sense from a cost perspective. On some of the models I've worked on lately the smaller center stack screens are actually costing more money. On a 1:1 basis the cost difference for an extra inch or two of screen is literally pennies, but because the larger screens are now being purchased in larger quantities the end cost from suppliers is less. They just want that carrot on the stick to drive you to a higher trim.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
Especially that $4,000 adaptive cruise control, which is actually useful, but only comes at the expense of many added other tech farkles.
@albinflyckt7983
@albinflyckt7983 2 жыл бұрын
But some of these lower end features (e.g. manual windows) must already excist in the part bin. They might be more widely used in other contries and other cars within the manufacturer? Or are these specifically developed only for the Wrangler?
@30smsuperstrat
@30smsuperstrat 2 жыл бұрын
I work for a large brown delivery company. They have always been adamant about not having any creature comforts on their vehicles. It would actually cost them more to have Tractor truck manufacturers put manual crank windows in the vehicles. I know this cause my brother in law is an engineer at one of the manufacturers. It hasn't been till very recently that they finally broke down and just let them install power windows for less.
@johnfilmore7638
@johnfilmore7638 2 жыл бұрын
@@30smsuperstrat I’ve working in the Tier 1 automotive suppliers manufacturing automation since I’ve been out of college 2005 and I can absolutely agree with your assessment, the tooling design and deployment for injection molding and assembly of crank windows or automatic actuation will be within 10% each fixturing changeover (no supplier has a dedicated line only assembling power windows and another for crank windows for Nissan Sentras), and once the lines are running the changeover labor hours costs are about the same. But tooling is expensive, injection molds for crank assemblies costs just as much as for power window buttons + stepper motor fabrication, changeovers are comparatively expensive with so few people buying crank windows an OEM could very easily be losing money offering cranks, or more likely the Tier 1 supplier misquoted, quoted a price per unit but did not quote a price per unit at different volumes which they should have.
@geepuller1
@geepuller1 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2011 mitsubishi pajero gl in Australia. They didn't sell the gl to the public, only to fleets. It was the base, base. Steel wheels, white, cloth seats, manual trans. It has cruise, climate control , power folding mirrors. I guess these things were just carried over from the more common luxury models.
@mpsangha
@mpsangha 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, the best non(option) you got with your JL was definitely the 3 pedals, thanks for keeping that culture alive. #savethemanuals
@manfredwwise
@manfredwwise 2 жыл бұрын
The manual Ive found just OK. The latest firmware update helps but its a bandaid on a ok system.
@xcrack6364
@xcrack6364 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just bought a 2022 wrangler sport manual. I love simple basic wranglers.
@VladoooThe
@VladoooThe 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a vehicle has no competition for decades. The price tag for this thing is insane: it has no features, no new tech, the basic design is ancient, the engine is now 11 years old, all the tooling is long paid for and they're mass produced. By all rights this should be a $20-22k truck, like it used to be.
@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS
@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS 2 жыл бұрын
And gas should be 2 bucks a gallon as well..🤣
@VladoooThe
@VladoooThe 2 жыл бұрын
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS lol I'm paying $7 currently, so it costs $230 USD to fill up my F150
@manbeastx69
@manbeastx69 2 жыл бұрын
Agree,Wranglers have been overpriced way to long
@VladoooThe
@VladoooThe 2 жыл бұрын
@@manbeastx69 I think it was around 2015 when it became ridiculous. I remember looking at a 2015 Sahara unlimited and it was around $28k CAD MSRP, today that same trim is like $48k.
@k3iler05
@k3iler05 2 жыл бұрын
@@VladoooThe Where do u live for $7 a gallon? Alaska?
@billwaterhouse5894
@billwaterhouse5894 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy, your Jeep IMHO is the perfect Jeep. It has everything you need and makes the perfect mountain goat. Super capable, light weight, less to go wrong, I love it. Now let's assign some TFL budget dollars towards some basic off road goodies for safety/recovery. Couple of good lights, steel bumpers,, winch, GMRS radio, high lift...and make some amazing videos with her.
@Z-u-m-a
@Z-u-m-a 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. There really is something liberating about basic functionality. Get over the initial novelty value of most modern gizmos and all you're left with is the extra cost, weight, information overload, and chance of things going wrong.
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy to avoid the complexity of most of the "driver assistance" systems for a vehicle like this.
@717UT
@717UT 2 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@Reality_Filter
@Reality_Filter 2 жыл бұрын
The brake lock differential is so underrated and overlooked in the Wrangler, thanks for showing what it can do...
@davidheckart639
@davidheckart639 2 жыл бұрын
And mechanical clutch type Limited Slip in the rear.
@brentworls8509
@brentworls8509 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidheckart639 I wore mine out, and replaced it with a Detroit TrueTrac which is significantly better, and should be the stock option instead of one with clutch packs. But then it makes the expensive electronic locker less of an improvement over a Torson-style LS. With the front also having one, the simplicity and capability of my setup is pretty sweet.
@davidheckart639
@davidheckart639 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentworls8509 thanks for sharing about the TrueTrac!
@dakotamorgan6594
@dakotamorgan6594 2 жыл бұрын
@@brentworls8509 is that a type of lunchbox locker? Do you notice any noise from it during normal driving?
@tangydiesel1886
@tangydiesel1886 2 жыл бұрын
@@dakotamorgan6594 its a geared limited slip. Not a locker. You can look them up to see how they work.
@Swordsman52
@Swordsman52 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the TFL crew consistently brings up the dangers of the "big city" as if they ain't in the Denver metro area lol
@daveberkovits4976
@daveberkovits4976 2 жыл бұрын
T F L is in the People’s Republic of Boulder but I don’t think the guys at T F L are a bunch of Liberal Boulderites. If they were they would not be doing this Chanel and what they do.
@5frogfrenzy
@5frogfrenzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@daveberkovits4976 lol think again
@jasonwilliams108
@jasonwilliams108 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, what was wrong with your JK? That thing was badass. Had the same engine. One of the most expensive winches on the market. Alls you needed was gearing and maybe a front Dana 44 with some lockers. I don't hate it, but you already had so many mods into your JK
@RedWingsninetyone
@RedWingsninetyone 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this video had nothing to do with political views and yet here they are in the comments.
@Swordsman52
@Swordsman52 2 жыл бұрын
@@daveberkovits4976 Boulder would qualify as the "Denver Metro area.".
@ckwirey
@ckwirey 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see 4wd comparison videos have an "are you over-paying" section, where a base model Wrangler attempts to tackle the same obstacles that all the upscale vehicles ran through. It'd be a great perspective to offer perspective buyers.
@Furniture121
@Furniture121 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned vehicles with no options, and vehicles with lots of options.... I'll take options any day. The novelty of cranking windows, and adjusting mirrors manually wears thin after a few years in my experience.
@greym6436
@greym6436 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, I believe your Willys has all the options I would need or utilize for any adventure so great setup man!
@FreakyT333
@FreakyT333 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious to me that the times we now live in make Bluetooth audio/phone connectivity a standard feature over power locks and even A/C in this case lol. I remember not long at all ago that was a pretty luxury feature on even the most premium vehicles.
@jackofalltradesmasterofnon5765
@jackofalltradesmasterofnon5765 2 жыл бұрын
I had a guy at a dealership tell me the reason for that was it is now considered a safety feature mandated by the feds. Now whether or not he was right or wrong or just pulling my leg is up in the air.
@aldo90731
@aldo90731 2 жыл бұрын
Hands-free phone connection and backup camera are required by law in many places
@matadorprime6555
@matadorprime6555 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tommy! Thanks for the videos as always. Just to provide some perspective...my 2003 TJ top-of-the-line (Tomb Raider ed) was about $32K when brand new. It's basically your Jeep with the Rubicon package. And, I know exactly how you feel when driving it. I have a newer Wrangler with all the bells and whistles, and I still enjoy driving my TJ on the trails a lot.
@LanceMillerSeattle
@LanceMillerSeattle 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is the best tip I've gotten towards my ideal new rig. Seriously, the lack of electronics on the doors (no power windows) is a big positive for me. Agree all the way through your demo. Put a diesel in it and I would be done with any lust for another vehicle.
@Its_Me0000
@Its_Me0000 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Tommy. I like your style and narration. You bought an awesome Jeep for all the right reasons.
@ubangiestomp
@ubangiestomp 2 жыл бұрын
Get the base model and build it out how you want. After market support for these vehicles is great. FYI you guys could do a BIG series on building out a base model vehicle to your spec!
@timewithtofu
@timewithtofu 2 жыл бұрын
I’m enjoying the videos on your basic jeep! I’d be interested in hearing more on any mods you may consider and ongoing updates
@backcountrybananaboy
@backcountrybananaboy 2 жыл бұрын
This jeep is awesome, it's the way jeeps should be! However, $35k is ridiculous. My 21 ranger is a base model, but even with a few options it came out to $33k msrp and $30k out the door after some rebates. 4x4, power equipment group, tow package, bed liner, and the STX appearance package.
@itisntm3
@itisntm3 2 жыл бұрын
Same here! It’s crazy to think I spent about to same on my 4Runner as he spent on this jeep
@korling99
@korling99 2 жыл бұрын
It will be a sad sad day when there are no more manual transmissions and an even sadder day when people are no longer allowed to own their own cars or drive them on public streets
@Tro1086
@Tro1086 2 жыл бұрын
Just keep voting democrat then, it will come sooner than you think.
@johnnymartinez478
@johnnymartinez478 2 жыл бұрын
You’ll give up your rights like you will give up all your others
@HiroNguy
@HiroNguy 2 жыл бұрын
"You will own nothing and be happy - or else!"
@jimmymorgan8097
@jimmymorgan8097 2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact model in blue and love it. It does everything I want it to, without breaking the bank. It’s also very easy to upgrade a wrangler if I decide I want more bells and whistles.
@Demonhawk14
@Demonhawk14 2 жыл бұрын
I would at least expect power locks for $35k
@dcar7446
@dcar7446 2 жыл бұрын
And automatic lights
@habaloneh
@habaloneh 2 жыл бұрын
You will then require an electric harness to be connected to the door. Once you do that then pressure will be on to add power windows, etc. So this car has zero power to doors, makes removing doors easier and of course cheaper
@Reality_Filter
@Reality_Filter 2 жыл бұрын
As always, great insights! I had a 2004 TJ Rubicon, loved it of course especially the simplicity of it. I wish Jeep offered an off road goodies package(lockers, 4.10, sway disconnect, factory lift) with the more utilitarian seats, windows, etc. Call it the stuff you want, and the stuff you don't need package...
@billj4859
@billj4859 2 жыл бұрын
That would justify the 35k for me.
@rogerjohnson2515
@rogerjohnson2515 2 жыл бұрын
I like the bare bones concept. I'm looking forward to seeing the mods you have in mind. Keep the great videos coming.
@13christbane
@13christbane 2 жыл бұрын
at 3k the mods should all be on
@coloradomallcrawlers
@coloradomallcrawlers 2 жыл бұрын
Great Jeep Tommy! I did the 3.6L with the manual too and I’m loving the way it performs over my previous JK’s 3.6L/6 speed. My only issue is the cost of new Jeeps. Your Jeep’s price was what my 2012 pretty much fully loaded Rubicon cost when I bought it new. Something just doesn’t feel right about that… when I got a Jeep as my first vehicle, it was a cheap (I think my first one was probably 15k TJ) yet still a quality vehicle.
@kevinvanlohuizen2709
@kevinvanlohuizen2709 2 жыл бұрын
Love your solo videos Tommy, so smooth and natural.
@norsefalconer
@norsefalconer 2 жыл бұрын
I recently priced out this Willy's configuration. Love that it offers all the manual bits. I currently have a 92 Toyota truck w/manual door locks, mirrors, windows and trans. 30yrs this month to the build date. The only piece in the bunch not being original is the pass mirror (and clutch). Broke the mirror on a tree. Replacement was
@OrionTheChonk
@OrionTheChonk 2 жыл бұрын
No idea how all of this added up to $35K. You should’ve walked out the door paying $23K for this Wrangler. Asinine how much they’re price gouging just because of the name.
@willb1242
@willb1242 2 жыл бұрын
IMO I think it's because there's simple a lot more volume of materials used in a car like this. The Wrangler is not small - Tommy's Crosstrek is $23K or so, and it's got the same # of seats, but Wranger's 20% heavier and all the suspension components are larger. I am not saying I disagree with you just that we are not purchasing a Fiat 500 here :D
@djmaciiii
@djmaciiii 2 жыл бұрын
I love the basic version of the Jeep the same way I love my LP records and my automatic watches. My kid has the Sport S, But I think I am going to get the Willys base sport for myself. I really like the tactile feeling you get from doing all the driving manually.
@danieldussan6754
@danieldussan6754 2 жыл бұрын
I’m extremely happy with my 16’ Oscar Mike edition, 2 door manual transmission.. it has everything I need, power door locks and windows, also hard too and you are right, it puts a smile on my face! Wranglers are basically the perfect vehicle.
@dowroa
@dowroa 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for the walk-through. I was trying to rack my brain for a truck to get for MTB / work I am doing where I would like a manual.. and with your vids it hit me -- Gladiator. I was looking at the exact same spec, but Gladiator. Nice to see what you get for the money! Thank you!
@JesusTorres-bw3bn
@JesusTorres-bw3bn 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. I love the simplicity of it, you made a good purchase Tommy!
@johngrodski4158
@johngrodski4158 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy, your Jeep is awesome man. You're 100% correct, so many added features we simply do not use anyway. You made a great decision with the Willys.
@BrettYoakum
@BrettYoakum 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good starting point with this jeep. You can ALWAYS upgrade later if you ever feel something is lacking (well... most things.. I dunno about power windshields). And for a lot of people who just want to go camping a little off trail, this is perfect
@jamesvasser2941
@jamesvasser2941 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better Tommy! My 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (TJ), has crank windows, A/C, a basic Stereo, manual trans, soft top (and a few more off road-able accouterments), but it’s the beauty in the simplicity that makes it shine.
@aldo90731
@aldo90731 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It really goes to show Wrangler’s inherent goodness off-road. Thank you for reminding us that less-is-more when you go off-road.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 2 жыл бұрын
Love your Jeep, this model has a decent off road package and looks good but I would af like to see it going over the harder side of that trail
@joneichenmuller1619
@joneichenmuller1619 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a 2015 Sport JK I love the basics. Less electronic parts means fewer things can malfunction. I spent the extra money on adding what upgrades I wanted later.
@datapro007
@datapro007 2 жыл бұрын
Great follow up review Tommy. Thanks.
@ranig2848
@ranig2848 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is that manual Windows cost Jeep more than motorized ones. Pretty sure many other “downgraded” features also cost more than what most would expect to be standard. It’s just crazy how these companies care more about charging more for the the car (even for things that cost them less) instead of providing the customer the best product they can.
@717UT
@717UT 2 жыл бұрын
Hooray capitalism
@johnnymartinez478
@johnnymartinez478 2 жыл бұрын
Jeep buyers are pay pigs
@buddy8225
@buddy8225 2 жыл бұрын
The Willys trim is the trim I would chose. It has everything I need and it’s a Jeep. Nothing fancy for me. ❤️😊👍
@Tro1086
@Tro1086 2 жыл бұрын
the only fancy part is the 35K price tag, with nothing to show for it.
@747Jumbo1
@747Jumbo1 2 жыл бұрын
I am planning for my next purchase to be a Willy’s or Willy’s Sport in almost identical configuration - 2 door, soft top, manual NA V6. These videos are SO helpful. Great job, and keep them coming!
@georgefoley9793
@georgefoley9793 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect Wrangler! Everything you need, and nothing you don't! Love all of the manual features. Personally, I drive a 2020 Jeep Compass Sport in Laser Blue Metallic (1st brand new car I have ever bought!), and just like you, I customized it with a no-cost tan cloth interior, and I absolutely love it. The only other option was a Mopar all weather interior mat package. Even though I have the most base model, the stock features include power everything, heated outside rearview mirrors, rear seat air vents, 7 inch touch screen, and a dual-zone automatic climate control. The only important part I am missing is a 4x4 system, but that's why I could get it for $24K take home price in the state of CA. Maybe in a couple of years, I'll trade it in for a 4x4 version with the recently updated interior.
@joemccormick1169
@joemccormick1169 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Tommy! I love the manual everything approach of your Jeep. Better for off-road and less to break.My first new car was a 1982 Audi 4e, manual everything, windows, shift, even a manual crank for the sunroof. Sold it in 86 to a young woman, her daughter drives it today. Cars with less electronics last longer..
@bradpittiful7288
@bradpittiful7288 2 жыл бұрын
the willys package really captures the old school jeep look..i like it a lot...can you swap out rubicon parts as time goes by since you wanted affordable jeep at first...saving up money to buy the offroad upgrades later
@jonm3080
@jonm3080 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and actually what I was looking for. A real world recount a regular guy who just wants a Wrangler to play with! As somebody looking to purchase one in the near future, I wanted to see if a basic package left any actual trail capabilities lacking. I think I will end up going with a more base package, potentially even the sport. One of the things that made Jeeps great historically was the fact they were so simple! Less to go wrong on them. LING LIVE THE MANUAL!!!
@Bannerdrums
@Bannerdrums 2 жыл бұрын
I showed up a lot of Rubicon's back when I had my 2012 JK. The trick was that I fit 33s without lifting it and I had good rock sliders and an engine skid plate. So I had little fear of doing damage and could slide over most obstacles. The downside was the 3:21 final drive. I sold it before upgrading. Should have gotten the automatic. Point is, a stock wrangler with 32s-33s and good underside armor will take you everywhere you want to go and will still keep up with the Rubicon's. Don't forget to disconnect your front sway bar off road.
@gopmario
@gopmario 2 жыл бұрын
I love and miss this simplicity. It’s a great ride!
@13christbane
@13christbane 2 жыл бұрын
for 35K ?
@Jackal_Blitz
@Jackal_Blitz 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'd be ripping that key brick apart and mounting the part I need it into something else much more manageable right quick.
@Dr_Reason
@Dr_Reason 2 жыл бұрын
I think it has an RF ID tag in it for the keyless ignition so you need more than the metal part.
@jeffanderson1091
@jeffanderson1091 2 жыл бұрын
There actually is an electrical connection on the doors for interior lights. Pull the little kick panel towards you ad you'll see it, but don't unplug it as many folks mess it up reconnecting it.
@richh9904
@richh9904 2 жыл бұрын
Hand crank windows are great. I really like this basic package for having a fun time. Smart purchase Tommy. I want one too.
@OnkelPHMagee
@OnkelPHMagee 2 жыл бұрын
I like it. The lack of frills is a refreshing change.
@4x4larry
@4x4larry 2 жыл бұрын
If you disconnected the sway bay .... that thing would be even more of a beast! I like it 👍
@tallll70
@tallll70 2 жыл бұрын
they have some mechanical quick disconnects with lift adjustments too
@adamsonofdon2766
@adamsonofdon2766 2 жыл бұрын
I am really excited to see you review this rig once fall starts, winter starts and in the spring as a retrospective….. I would love to walk in to a dealership and say “can I order what Tommy bought?” Good job bro! Cheers from north of Seattle
@ElationProductions
@ElationProductions 2 жыл бұрын
You got a real nice Jeep there Tommy. I have a 2016, also in red and pretty bare bones too. It's nice to start with something that feels like a blank canvas to add on to exactly as you want to, not as a package group says you have to take. I hope your Wrangler serves you well for many adventure filled years.
@GenSparks
@GenSparks 2 жыл бұрын
I love your jeep and that's exactly how I would've bought it. Love that manual transmission.
@martindonajkowski1455
@martindonajkowski1455 2 жыл бұрын
I currently have a Willys Sport Gladiator on order and you've definitely made me feel even better with my decision!
@semipenguin
@semipenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great, Tommy. I’m spoiled, tho. I love my JLU with the remote start, heated seats and steering wheel, and keyless entry with close proximity door locks. It easily gets to -20°F here in the winter.
@moab67
@moab67 2 жыл бұрын
It kinda puts it into perspective that it was not until 2007 that all those power options were even available on a Wrangler. I am trying to decide on what Wrangler to get myself as I get back into Jeeps, and these videos make a strong case for the base Willys. Thanks for a great practical video.
@festorfamine
@festorfamine 2 жыл бұрын
I like it, less "features"/less electronic equate to less time spent in the repair shop not to mention less repair cost.
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 2 жыл бұрын
I'd expect the labor charges for troubleshooting electronic glitches in newer cars, once out-of-warranty, will be a painful experience.
@christopherfernandez2305
@christopherfernandez2305 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully having some actual competition now, Jeep will reconsider not making power windows, door locks, and a/c standard because not having that be standard in a $35k vehicle is insane. That being said though, I love my Jeep Gladiator.
@jerroldshelton9367
@jerroldshelton9367 2 жыл бұрын
Some "Jeep People" are glad that things like power windows and door locks aren't standard equipment on two-door Wranglers. What might make them and people like you happy at the same time is if Jeep didn't charge customers for the parts it leaves out in base models, while including the "mod cons" when charging $35,000.00. ;)
@mohammadbinbishr5167
@mohammadbinbishr5167 2 жыл бұрын
You get the best options for a all year round usage and terrain Keep up the great work
@jdw8995
@jdw8995 2 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is the ultimate Sophistication. I Bought a Gladiator Willys with hand crank windows and a manual trans and yes red just like yours and I really like it.
@turbojunki
@turbojunki 2 жыл бұрын
True Jeep in the true spirit of the OG CJ’s. That being said, I want all the gizmos. Lol.
@timvl8178
@timvl8178 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy... keep this one forever. Think of the fun you'll have passing this one on to your kids... especially if you build it up a little. It might be a great chick magnet too and a woman that likes this no frills Jeep, enjoys adventure, just might be a keeper. Great choice! P.S. - maybe your dad should rate this comment.
@Catman1798
@Catman1798 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the ruggedness of the wrangler. I need a hauler mostly. Small pickups are still too big for my taste. I like the two door wranglers. I love how the backseat can be completely taken out and have room to put junk back there. A removable top is awesome. I would prefer the soft top but I don’t trust it to protect my stuff while at the stores. I seen after market covers that you can put in the back to make it easier to clean etc. some kind of composite material you install and it is suppose to take the rough stuff and easy to clean. I would definitely use a two door wrangler as a mini pickup a lot of times. I have a renegade now. I’m eyeing a wrangler two door these days. I wish the renegade was just as rugged. It’s hard as hell to clean. I been using it as a hauler a lot lately. I wish I could have an open top to let the smells and airborn junk blow away while driving. I really wanted to get a Toyota this time but I can’t live with what they got in the lineup. Even the Tacoma.
@E21Life
@E21Life Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@bogdandanailescu
@bogdandanailescu 2 жыл бұрын
Don't miss any of the extras, but the price looks like it includes them and this is sad. I'd say that a fair price for this Jeep would be in the 28-30k $.
@davidbiagini9048
@davidbiagini9048 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more like $25k but as another person wrote, it probably actually costs them more to make a bare bones Jeep than the higher trim models.
@bogdandanailescu
@bogdandanailescu 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbiagini9048 I thought if a Subaru Crosstrek is 25k this would be more like 28k, but you are right 25k is the right price for it :)
@kc510
@kc510 2 жыл бұрын
Wranglers are way overpriced because of demand. What you get for the money is crazy. Not saying they’re comparable other than for the features but - Same price as a base Willys you can get a Mazda CX-5 with led, self leveling dynamic headlights, 2.5L turbo engine, leather heated/cooler seats, heated rear seats, auto ac, heated steering wheel, adaptive cruise and lane keep assist.
@Clockwork0nions
@Clockwork0nions 2 жыл бұрын
This trim should be 20-25k. In no way should this thing cost the same amount as a Sasquatch'd, 2-door Bronco lol.
@Sendong123
@Sendong123 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness Jeep kindly included seat belts as standard and not made it an option.
@matthewkriebel7342
@matthewkriebel7342 2 жыл бұрын
Seat belts are mandated, which is fine, but so is stability control and the rear camera, which I find ridiculous. It’s safer, sure, but also very expensive.
@rexhutcheson7290
@rexhutcheson7290 2 жыл бұрын
I finally got my '21 Willys Sport after 4 months and 10 days (April 22-Sep 2). I can't say anything bad about it. Mine is Hydro Blue and we've already taken it on a road trip from sw MO to nw FL. Sure, there's some road noise, but my wife and I were able to carry on a conversation without having to raise our voices. The usb port in the center console is a fast charger compared to the one on the dash near the shifter. It did take some time getting used to the shifter with the pull up reverse. You have to keep your fingers away from the pull up ring when shifting into 1st, otherwise it goes into reverse way too easily. I had a 98 TJ Sport, with a soft top and half doors for 17 years. This was way quieter and the roll up windows definitely made a difference in that road noise. Thanks for your take on the Willys Sport. I enjoy your videos and comments.
@Dbrow1982
@Dbrow1982 2 жыл бұрын
Love your jeep! I have the same one (same color too) with an auto, power windows, and LED package... So far me and the wife like ours alot!
@theinternets7516
@theinternets7516 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this jeep. It's such a great balance of capability and affordability. I would love to see you take it to some of the more difficult trails and show what it can do in comparison to vehicles that cost close to twice as much.
@denco.outdoorsman1821
@denco.outdoorsman1821 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Even if it were to fail, love to see the limits it can handle
@johnanderson2432
@johnanderson2432 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 78 CJ-7. In comparison, your jeep is loaded! Also, you didn't need a key to open the door as there was no lock on a canvas door.
@lavery0365
@lavery0365 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have the 19 four door Rubicon & after seeing this video, I feel sooooo blessed. Lol, the key fob also serves as an effen dinner plate, brakes optional....
@ronthoman7138
@ronthoman7138 2 жыл бұрын
NICE! That is a True "old school" Jeep! I can't thank you enough for showing how "simple" can really take care of business!
@jessaphillips2846
@jessaphillips2846 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing Jeep next year we’ll get a “Pentastar 10th Anniversary edition” Wrangler lol
@jtr990
@jtr990 2 жыл бұрын
Everything you need and nothing you don't. That's what I like about the basic Jeep.
@mrfisher77
@mrfisher77 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet ride - great demo - you've got talent Tommy
@bill29456
@bill29456 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy I love your Jeep. I have a 1979 CJ7 which is almost like your, except I don’t have hard doors, I got soft doors. No windows, no a/c and no cruse control. However I get more thumbs up from other Jeep’s and most other folks. I think you made a great decision and my hats off to you for buying what you could afford and not what you could finance 👍👍
@scottbruce9872
@scottbruce9872 2 жыл бұрын
Priced out a base 2 dr Bronco with auto, larger engine, aux accessory switches and roof rails. Note all Broncos come with LED. Priced 2 dr Wrangler Sport with auto, V6 and hard top. Wrangler was $2k more. Also wonder why Jeep is charging extra for all colors except white. Keep up the good vids.
@enz6312
@enz6312 2 жыл бұрын
You would figure that Jeep would drop their price to be competitive...more than likely,...Ford will raise their price next model year to match instead..pricing on vehicles will never go down. The manufacturers are making way too much $$$
@reimundkrohn8938
@reimundkrohn8938 2 жыл бұрын
Ford hasn’t opened 2022 order banks, and while Ford has CLAIMED they are going to honor MSRP for people who ordered prior to March 19 2021 and have a signed purchase agreement with their dealer, what they have NOT said is that they upped their finance rate. It is currently a whole 1% higher than Jeep financing….. Maybe that doesn’t sound like much, but it sure adds up over the term of the loan. …And that is today. When 2022 Bronco order banks open, you are still likely to wait another year before you see a Bronco. Ford only finally closed reservations yesterday, and admits they are sold out through the 22MY.
@jamesa5398
@jamesa5398 2 жыл бұрын
With that hardtop you aren't going to get it until late 2022/2023
@scottbruce9872
@scottbruce9872 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesa5398 Probably why Jeep is keeping the prices high? Would be nice if there was a third manufacture selling this type of vehicle.
@necrotoaster94
@necrotoaster94 2 жыл бұрын
Refreshing in it’s simplicity. Harkens back to a time when man drove machine and not the other way around.
@andresr7341
@andresr7341 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you Tommy, very nice and simple thats all you need im with you happy trails.
@gilbertarnold8666
@gilbertarnold8666 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you!
@scotthughes29
@scotthughes29 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE your Jeep Tommy. The pricing for these is completely ridiculous…and to be honest, the larger screen and the power locks/doors should be standard. It seems really silly to me that that would be a big ‘extra’ cost. We know you don’t miss them…but c’mon, it IS the 21st century.
@OPWasatchReptiles
@OPWasatchReptiles 2 жыл бұрын
It’s cool but it’s got all the same accessories and technology as my 88 Jeep Yj, and my 06 Jeep LJ. For 35k I bought my new 2021 Tacoma with electric everything and Manuel trans and locking rear diff.
@Lensync7
@Lensync7 2 жыл бұрын
It's bs for 35k!
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m not really understanding WHY he bought this vehicle new. I mean it’s for the channel obviously, but in a normal situation he could have bought a low mileage used with all the features he’s missing for the same price
@zacharywatson3242
@zacharywatson3242 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyCox1351 100%. Domestic used is the way to go in every situation except trucks.
@TonyCox1351
@TonyCox1351 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharywatson3242 Why not trucks? Im not a truck guy so im curious
@cheeriy0740
@cheeriy0740 2 жыл бұрын
This Jeep would be better if it had the traditional crank key start, to be honest.
@iMernerner
@iMernerner 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@tpv59
@tpv59 2 жыл бұрын
WHY Please, WHY ???
@tpv59
@tpv59 2 жыл бұрын
@@iMernerner WHY please, WHY ?
@cheeriy0740
@cheeriy0740 2 жыл бұрын
@@tpv59 A mechanical crank key start is more durable and reliable than a push-button start.
@tpv59
@tpv59 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheeriy0740 THANK YOU. I did not know this. Kind regards. ALL the BEST.
@madfranmanr5751
@madfranmanr5751 2 жыл бұрын
This Wrangler checks all my boxes. I don't mind all the manual items - key-in-the lock entry, rolldown windows, basic removable roof, manual adjust mirrors... For once I'd like to buy a just a regular car with these basic options. It would seem to me that they might even do well. Thanks for this review.
@JamesSmith-uc8tk
@JamesSmith-uc8tk 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2016 JKU Sport. The only options were the upgraded soft top (to get tinted windows all around), 31" tires with black steelies, tow group (for the 3.73 gears), and the connectivity group (per the wife). I paid invoice for it. Otherwise, it's basically the same as yours from the factory. Over the years I've added a few things to it (engine/trans skid, rock rails, sun shade, 1.5" leveling kit, 17" aluminum wheels, 33" tires, flat tow base plate). I've wheeled it stock and as modified. It's done everything I've asked of it.
@efs83dws
@efs83dws 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Jeep. Your outlook is spot on.
@Glamisemt24
@Glamisemt24 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like jeep got away with having no competition for so long that they were robbing their customers. The bronco is showing what you can get for that base price.
@Drewhasit
@Drewhasit 2 жыл бұрын
@Glamisemt24 And this is why I am such a Bronco fan. No PT Cruiser parts and gauges in the cabin to trigger my PTSD. Let’s keep this competition going!
@Glamisemt24
@Glamisemt24 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drewhasit I'm in the same boat. However I am over the wait period but it is a much better deal overall
@wizeguiz
@wizeguiz 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! The LED headlights would be a must for me, but I love the rest! Great Video!
@danbuckley4126
@danbuckley4126 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me that I grew up deprived in the 1960s!
@nipsy_lafett
@nipsy_lafett 2 жыл бұрын
I wish it still had the key start too. My 2021 f150 does and I appreciate it
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures
@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy’s practical and sensible purchase. One day in the future I imagine you watching this video and wonder how practical you were.
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 2 жыл бұрын
I own that same version jeep! Mine I bought in 2015, I still own it! Mine is Baja yellow, 2 doors. But I do have power windows on mine, never had any issues with it so far, I’ve been very lucky! I keep the maintenance at the dealer. And the only upgrade I’ve done to it, is new tires, replace the brakes, oil changes, and replaced the hood latches with lockable ones. That’s it! And I love it! It’s a great vehicle. 👌😎👍
@TJY2K
@TJY2K 2 жыл бұрын
I love your new wrangler Tommy! You make it very tempting to buy a base willys. I recommend one and only mod! Front sway bar link disconnects would make it unstoppable!
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 2 жыл бұрын
Still puzzles me how an entry level Wrangler with so little interior features as this one, is able to be more expensive, than some new pick-ups. And in it loaded trim level, too close to the price of a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.
@jamesa5398
@jamesa5398 2 жыл бұрын
1) Not an entry level 2) We don't have Prados is the US 3) US you would TRD/mods to keep up with Jeeps on our trails will drive up the cost
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesa5398 4) Entry level Toyota 4Runner, with mud tires and aftermarket lockers. Done.
@kenhoward3512
@kenhoward3512 2 жыл бұрын
@@RogerM88 The 4Runner (entry-level) would need to be raised (including taller tires AND lower gearing because of the taller tires) to compensate for the longer wheelbase and longer rear overhang, to possibly compete with this 2-door Wrangler.
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 2 жыл бұрын
@@kenhoward3512 that's why I talked about the LC Prado. It has a 3 doors version.
@achavesbarrantes
@achavesbarrantes 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 4 door sport as basic as yours. Love the manual windows handles. Have left the car key inside by mistake 3 times, but love people's reaction when noticing how basic it is. Overall, it really gives me a special Jeep feel by being that basic and still very capable car to explore
@scottbruce9872
@scottbruce9872 2 жыл бұрын
Had a 17 Sport S with manual locks and windows. Through the keys to the kids and told them to go take for a ride. Fun watching them try to figure out how to get in the locked vehicle.
@greg1268
@greg1268 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you doing some videos on your base model Jeep. I’m not a gotta have all the bells and whistles kind of guy either. I love my TJ X and if anything happens to it I might consider what your driving. Thanks again
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