Man Has Alarming Level Of Pride In Institution That Left Him In Debt, Unprepared For Job Market

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Calling his college experience "the greatest four years of [his] life," 27-year-old University of Miami alumnus Mark Felder maintains a startling level of pride in his alma mater, a private academic institution that left him $50,000 in debt an...
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[@BrianFaure1]

This ain't satire

[@Rogue.Rainbow]

He probably was born in Florida and then raised in somewhere much more stable.

[@fishyfish1917]

It is satire.

[@caleblee7760]

@@fishyfish1917 missed the joke

[@Lovelle1]

I wish it was just that.

[@mattscrapper9938]

lol. You could just work a regular job in the area and take 1 class at a time and at least come away with no debt.

[@Mister_B_]

I bet he's nothing short of elated when he gets his "alumni donation requests" in the mail too!

[@Nasalturtle]

“A hundred and twenty thousand DOLLARS”

[@angelamontecucco3925]

God is he me

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

I remember me dad telling me that he started getting those donation request calls starting my second semester of college.

[@TheAres1999]

@@Nasalturtle "Give us some money, as a gift!!"

[@Nasalturtle]

@@TheAres1999 Its been a while since you’ve housed and taught me

[@aarons8445]

We know this video is old because college only cost him $140k

[@blackspiderman1887]

@FullTimeSlacker I know right. i went for nursing and it only cost me about $10,000 total and I didn't even pay for it cuz of Obama. Also you can go to a trade school like trucking for 2 months and start making $850 a week after taxes. Then after a year you can make about $1000 a week cuz you got experience.

[@gabemerritt3139]

I'm finishing school now at a 4 year university that only costed me 50k total. Room & board, tuition, fees, food, all included. Still super expensive, but you don't have to go to some ivy league wanna be. Community colleges are much cheaper than here too.

[@coleanderson5099]

Half the price now

[@MeowtronStar]

What the fuck is wrong with your country? My college cost me like $1.5K.

[@hypernoxious]

​@@MeowtronStar We get taxed on everything, and our government spends 95% of it on wars that we have 0 reason being in, then give an extra % to other countries for 0 reason.

[@Kev95682]

When I was growing up, parents, teachers, and guidance counselors all told their children that if you don't go to college, you'll be a loser who flips burgers for the rest of your life. Now those same people complain about how college graduates are too proud or lazy to take jobs flipping burgers.

[@RedBonkleMan8534]

Accurate

[@sunshineslowking5025]

and shit all over the people who flip them their burgers

[@sunshineslowking5025]

Bigfoot Exactly! And then who tf is bringing you your McMuffins, Karen? Either the kids you look down on by default or the adults you’ve decided you’re better than. It’s such hypocrisy; demanding a service from someone while simultaneously degrading them for it

[@stubbornviking8548]

I remember all my teachers telling me to go to college and do well to get a high paying job or I’d be stuck waiting tables or flipping burgers the rest of my life. Then I discovered that money doesn’t *actually* exist in the field that I chose and now I’m waiting tables and making a lot more money at 24 than my old teachers are now.

[@vansharora5859]

@@stubbornviking8548 People just aren’t very smart unfortunately. You are your best advisor when it comes to life choices.

[@disco1974ever]

Actually, THIS Onion article is 100% true. Is it even satire.

[@thekingoflordagames3517]

@Niyaz damn... then we need to buckle up...

[@jimothyworldbuilding3664]

Satire is making jokes of serious things... this is the height of satire.

[@IAmPattycakes]

@@thekingoflordagames3517 remember the time when the onion joked about an alarming flu-like disease coming out of China that included difficulty breathing, but the Chinese government was labeling it merely as "Olympic fever" and said to not be alarmed? They're prophets, and their disappearance heralds the end times.

[@gyozanomics]

*laughs in CNC machinery generating capital to get involved in experimental machinery, additive manufacturing and property ownership* hahah I owe 0 dollars to anyone and i bet my life plan is both more accessible and cost effect than urs good thing I partied hard and didnt worry about life decisions til like 24/7 because I'm pretty sure the path I just laid out would shit all over 99% of the 55k a year job u fools will end up working THE CHAD TRADESMEN the virgin gender studies graduate

[@noahmugan354]

@@gyozanomics ...can’t tell if this is a joke or not

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

In 2020, you’re paying like $60,000 to receive emails from a lecturer when you could literally watch Harvard lectures on KZbin!

[@captaincool6268]

And they are lit 😍😍

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

But at the end, you get a piece of paper saying you paid for them! Employers don't care how smart and knowledgeable you are, it just matters that you overpaid to maybe learn some stuff. Edit: I mean this in reference to getting a position. If you don't have a degree, they likely won't give you a chance to show your skills. They will just ignore the application if their computer system doesn't just delete/hide it.

[@code5829]

@@captaincool6268 and mit ocw

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

@@Spencer-wc6ew exactly!! We still have to go to get the degree. They should really just create a universally standardised test for every subject like they do in actuarial jobs.

[@gyozanomics]

ive watched harvard lectures and theyre complete and total dogshit ask my friend - she went ot harvard law and she fully agrees that harvard, outside of law, is dogshit babycare bro u can seriously write a report on how like PIPPIN DER KURZE, KAROLVS REX IMP AVG, AND KAROLVS MARTELLVS *were actually black men based on no evidence* and they will CHAMPION you at a clown ass Ivy League school and no i'm not saying hypothetically I am literally referring to a real incident that occured

[@Commanderziff]

So it was $140,000 for tuition, but he's only $50,000 in debt? Meaning he's already paid off $90,000? That's impressive.

[@shrishri5029]

Or his parents did, yikes.

[@JK-ei7wr]

Or he might’ve been given scholarship offers. Miami had actually offered me roughly $40k/year in scholarships when I applied but that still left $30k/year left to pay in tuition. Still astounds me how expensive American higher learning is.

[@jonquilgemstone]

@@JK-ei7wr And I guarantee most of it goes to sports and to professors who barely teach.

[@JK-ei7wr]

@@jonquilgemstone yup the American higher education system is absolutely fucked. Fuck America

[@jonquilgemstone]

@@JK-ei7wr Not America...just its education system 🇺🇸 🍎

[@orange_leaf4913]

Meanwhile colleges in 2020: cannot do anything but study, can’t even take in the view or stroll around campus: the same price (:

[@coleschemistrychannel4172]

The studying is the important part...

[@zachzimmermann5209]

​@@coleschemistrychannel4172 Yes, but why pay should the students have keep paying for the gyms and facilities they're not allowed to use anymore? I realize there are certain budget concerns but it's still selling a vastly inferior product (which this video doesn't rate very highly anyways) for the same price.

[@olivercuenca4109]

@@coleschemistrychannel4172 Eh, kind of. It’s the bit that’ll get you a degree, but it’s the other stuff like the chance to try new sports or activities, meet new friends, or just have a really good time, that really makes the studying bearable. And that stuff as much as the other stuff can have a huge impact on your future career path. Speaking from personal experience, I don’t think I’d be the person I am today without doing the peripheral stuff I did at uni.

[@user-nx7sd1yi7q]

actually even more expensive now

[@hamsterfromabove8905]

The studying and the courses are the same price. You are paying for proof that you can learn material in your field of study. Colleges are still good. You just need to make sure that you are there for the right reason. There are a lot of degrees that won't lead you anywhere good. But that doesn't detract from the good ones. (I'm on track to graduate with a bachelor in computer science in the spring of 2022). Honestly, Covid19 hasn't changed my college experience. I talk to my friends online when we are available, but other than that I stay in and study.

[@magicalminis597]

I know this is old but, he did say "Awesome Bars, awesome Sports, awesome campus, pretty much next to the beach..." no mention of academics.

[@ianmacdonald4163]

That's the point

[@alaskantundrawolf8831]

UM is a pretty elite institution, though.

[@joewillis2490]

its the university of miami

[@artemis7271]

@@joewillis2490 Miami is an extremely respectable school

[@joewillis2490]

@@artemis7271 ain't even top 50.

[@schmoyoho]

seems fishy, no way he finished in 4 years

[@tdp2612]

i didnt realise you still uploaded lul

[@cindyds10]

Lmao 😂

[@Ty-vj4wg]

Lol

[@evo2542]

He got a degree in General Studies

[@DjWrekD]

Wait what?! Y’all still around?

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

Every single high school student needs to watch this.

[@winoneformebammer1980]

That’s quite the oversimplification. The first question high school students should ask is: do I want to work in an office for decent pay or do I want to work outside, in a machine shop, factory, restaurant, etc for much lower pay than I deserve? To get an office job, which a lot of people wish they had, a college degree is almost required. Of course if you’re well connected (read: rich or powerful parents) you might not have to work a day in your life, but for us lower and middle classers, we will have to work. If you choose an easy degree, you’ll find yourself better off as a server, otherwise college degrees are the way to go for anybody who wants any sort of economic stability. Office jobs also provide minimal manual labor, which gets leas fun as you age and more stable schedules (9-5 on weekdays.) I won’t lie and tell you that either route is fun. Maybe if you’re in the 5% of the field that your “passion” just so happens to line up with the limited professions out there. The rest of us just fake it and take our 2% yearly raise.

[@lutherblaise1641]

I don’t think that going to college is my choice.

[@jacksonsmith2955]

@@lutherblaise1641 I feel you tbh

[@GTA5Player1]

Oof, something tells me that they would get the wrong idea, here... It's like those "inspirational speakers" telling you to follow your dreams.

[@Comeyuca01]

I’m in 10th grade, this scares me.

[@jeremym8490]

This is me, I try to watch this all the time to punish myself. It's like breaking a bad habit or getting out of a toxic relationship, still harder than it seems.

[@abdicolestudios8899]

Jeremy M yo chill are you good now? Bro where have u been in 2 years? Have u recovered?

[@unkn0wni]

Jeremy M Seriously, answer us, we are here to help if you need anything.

[@unkn0wni]

u0455294 Maybe an specialist could find a solution. Try to avoid reading any school news board. You have to be strong

[@odealianaffairs9001]

@@unkn0wni there’s a chance he died to the virus

[@unkn0wni]

@@odealianaffairs9001 Well, the first guy hadn't responded for 3 years, so I find it unlikely. If he is not answering do to something, that something should have happened before a year ago, when the other guy asked. To the second guy, well, I responded to the comment pretty fast, so I also find it unlikely. There are likelier causes for someone not answering a youtube comment.

[@rammice]

I like how the guy even looks like he was stripped of all his individuality and remade into the college's image, like most institutions do...

[@commenterjosh2428]

@Armando Perez He speaks the truth, why would you feel attacked?

[@ssrgamer3406]

@EM this comment was 7 years ago and most of the replies are within today

[@spk1121]

@@ssrgamer3406: It's weird how the almighty algorithm works, isn't it?

[@dilloncollins5092]

@@spk1121 im triggered

[@xander1052]

@@commenterjosh2428 it is because he speaks the truth that Armando feels attacked in a joking manner

[@addanametocontinue]

I was half expecting his parents to pound on his door and tell him to keep it down.

[@spk1121]

This video is 7 years old, so this is a little before bitterly ironic humiliation became standard within comedic skits. Ah, the innocence of olden times. {sniff, sniff}

[@thuglifebear5256]

Huh. My College actually _did_ prepare me for the job market, you'd think I'd have more pride in them. It just left me with a really cynical outlook on Higher Education. And job applications.

[@xylxylxylxyl]

Literally. Self study is a million times better. You can self study literally anything in undergrad. It's a bit harder at the graduate level, but still doable. The sad thing is that many employers require degrees. But you don't need a degree to be smart or self study. I guess the best you can do then is obtain certificates.

[@thuglifebear5256]

@@xylxylxylxyl That's _exactly_ what happened in undergrad. If they had been more competent we wouldn't have had as much freedom to self study. The best performing students would easily have been dragged down with the lowest. We were helped by how little they were teaching us.

[@Xrelent]

@@xylxylxylxyl Yep. I self studied throughout highschool and right after when I wasn't going to college and it didn't do jack. Currently on my 3rd year in university paying $300/credit hour (public university, in state tuition) and I've learned maybe 3-4 credit hours worth of material. Head hunters want the degree so I guess they'll get it...

[@jonathangarzon2798]

Lol I don't hire college grads

[@whistletoe]

@@jonathangarzon2798 what's your business

[@gamerknown]

My university prepared me quite adequately for the workforce. They explicitly said 6% of students go on to research, 25% find work related to the field. I'm going to be cleaning toilets for the rest of my life.

[@olivercuenca4109]

I mean I don’t see why getting a job in the same field as your degree should ever be the end goal unless you’re doing something explicitly vocational.

[@olivercuenca4109]

@@erseshe I mean, the idea that every single high-skill job is going to be automated within five years is completely laughable, as is the (completely unfounded, repeatedly proven wrong) stereotype about burger flipping being the natural outcome for all graduates not doing a science degree.

[@lemminjuice]

@@erseshe retire with 5 million? That's pretty unattainable for someone making 50-60k let alone someone flipping burgers. And I don't think even a million would be enough to retire at 35 or 40. That's 25+ years of expenses before social security or medicare kick in. Unless you already own a house or have a spouse who has health insurance, then it would be much more reasonable.

[@chrisletsinger1724]

@@erseshe That sounds great on paper, but is practically impossible in practice. You don't factor in major expenses like children, housing (because what parent is gonna let their kid live with them at 40). Also theres the whole what if the market collapses and you lose everything. Imagine living like shit for most of your life just to be rich at 70 only to end up broke.

[@willunderhill4673]

@@erseshe if you think robots are going to take you're job then you're wrong! I work with robots and they break constantly after about 10 years of use. If you really believe robots are going to take your job, learn how to fix robots. There's always more work to do

[@50bladesofgrey43]

The satire of the past became the reality of today.

[@user-cs6zr4nw2z]

I hate that a lot of people will take this as “college bad”, instead of seeing how broken the education system is

[@weeveferrelaine6973]

Basically the same thing. Currently "college bad", as well as "college bad" in the past 40 years. Broken and bad are synonymous when there's no apparent solution in sight

[@f.p.5410]

@@weeveferrelaine6973 What do you mean "no solution"? There are plenty of affordable colleges in the US, as long as you don't study something worthless it's a perfectly good investment. College isn't bad/broken, it's completely the student's fault (or their parents') if they choose an overpriced college or a completely useless major. Being smart with your financial choices is "the solution".

[@silencedissent9120]

With the internet being at everyone's disposal, college IS bad.

[@weeveferrelaine6973]

​@@f.p.5410 Even affordable colleges are very, very, very rarely a good investment. Better curriculum is available for free online (or very cheap), taught by better teachers than any professors you are likely to have. If you're lucky enough, living at home during your higher education is an option that will save you immensely. Not having to deal with multiple other students means that 100% of your education time is spent educating yourself as well, and not being wasted waiting for your turn to have the educational focus. Considering the wasted time alone, and that you'll have a significantly worse education at a university than what you can do for yourself (combined with that training yourself how to learn is an objectively better thing than staying used to being taught by other people), even if college or even university were free, both are not going to be worth it. You get those same connections college says it gives from teaching yourself, you get a faster education, a better education, and you save money. That boils down to essentially that the economy hasn't caught up yet. The point of college isn't the education anymore, it's that it gives you a piece of paper that makes certain professions want to hire you more. This piece of paper is what your tuition pays for, ultimately, and everything else is just smoke and mirrors to try and convince you your education was a premium thing, that only the college could have gotten you. For some people, that paper is definitely worth it, and it will get them a job that will more than make up for everything else. But in real terms, once the economy catches up to reality, college is going to die out, and will be replaced with certifications and trade schools. Originally college was a place to share free thought. The internet is arguably significantly more free with which ideas it lets you express, share, and learn, and college has lost sight of the purpose of being a forum for reviewing differing thoughts. Because it has reduced itself to just education, and mostly in part due to the internet out-competing it (for those who are capable of self-teaching), I do believe, "College Bad"

[@silencedissent9120]

@@f.p.5410 You're not going to convince me that it's a good idea to go into debt to get a job.

[@michaelbowen3351]

This is just showing critical thinking analysis of reality, nothing fake in this video.

[@geradosolusyon511]

This guy is so prideful of everything but education

[@henryatkinson1479]

I miss when this could pass as satire.

[@dabossman5650]

I mean it was Probly just as true then as now dude in fact acting like this dude more perhaps

[@AlexAnder-rv1gu]

you miss 1980?

[@henryatkinson1479]

@@AlexAnder-rv1gu I miss when the USA didnt exist ...

[@Derp12]

@@henryatkinson1479 pre-big-bangers understand the struggle

[@jakobv2560]

@@henryatkinson1479 same i miss hanging with the Shawnee

[@hestheman929]

If satire is true, is it still satire?

[@bryanmoyna9715]

Yes.

[@deoxal7947]

If it's not true then it's not satire.

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

It’s not true, it’s making fun of college from the movies and media. Which is nothing like college for the most part. And despite a mortgage on your back, most people have access to a job market which pays much higher salaries than high school level educations will ever earn you. There are some exceptions, which require skills or military professionalism which do not require a degree. or jobs involving risk or mobility allowing some to reach similar incomes. also the idea that an education is to prepare you for the real world is a loose one at best. that being said the private market designs much of the education systems in our country. this is done in a way similar to supply and demand. often left for the young to decide for themselves. higher education is where people waste time, if it can even be called that. Just because you didn’t go, doesn’t mean you aren’t intelligent. we are all pretty damn stupid together, no reason to pretend there’s much of a difference between anyone at all when the best detection methods we have are based on averages. College like the real world doesn’t give you many chances either, and unlike how it is painted most people go there to get better paying jobs. and it’s the bare minimum for most modernized cities these days. unless you want to work in the massive services sector , so you can break your neck brownnosing people with an MBA all day pretending like college is about politics. Yea.

[@madelainepetrin1430]

It becomes a tragicomedy.

[@teenspirit1]

@@Yor_gamma_ix_bae Are you ok?

[@TwoLegumes]

Experiencing this first hand has got to be one of the most exasperating periods of my life. Can't wait for it to be over.

[@NotSexualAtAll]

8 years later, and this is still so on the nose it hurts.

[@BertMMA]

😂

[@emejota310]

Ugh, I still haven't earned enough to pay back my UM student loans... and I graduated in '97!!!

[@BirdyZaG]

How’s the debt going?

[@spk1121]

@emejota310: All good by now? Hoping that's the case!

[@kerenperez9722]

Were you able to pay for it already? I Hope so

[@HudaEmc]

@Tachanka Main Wow, what an accomplishment! Congrats.

[@nicoludoc1117]

@Tachanka Main cheers 👋👋 hope they'll pay for your marriage and house too 🤗🙏🙏 also ask them for the funeral money right away so you won't have to pay it later 👍👍🖕

[@davids5529]

Glad I didn’t go to college. I got a lot of shit from everyone 10 years ago for not going to college. Now I have no debt. And a very good income

[@joesphanlu3369]

Just for perspective, would you mind telling how much is a very good ibcome, and how long did it take you to get there?

[@pursuitsoflife.6119]

I'm interested as well. Do you have a social media outlet or a KZbin channel?

[@itself227]

He probably found a job with a decent company and showed up with a good attitude and work ethic. And yes he probably started at the bottom, but after 4-6 years (about the same time some people spent in college) he found himself making a living with no debt and a bright future

[@Thunder_Dome45]

I wish I didn't go. I studied my ass off for gender studies and all I got was a bill of $50 grand and still climbing every day. But with the pandemic I'm laughing at them. They can't collect and I don't care if I pay them (which I never will). HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Ok the gender studies was a joke. I was going to be a meteorologist. They kicked me out for nothing. All I did was say I better go home before I kill somebody. Before I got home the cops were there. So for kicking me out of school for nothing, I'd say they owe me money. Just because in the same day there was a mass shooting at another school doesn't mean I would do the same thing.

[@longdeadchannel8311]

lmfao

[@regalsurvivor3418]

Lol so true. They built an image around alma mater pride in order to keep the student tuition loans coming in from new hopefuls.

[@Simon-tc1mc]

It honestly is just an abusive relationship. We feel this school spirit just because you have to give up all your hobbies and interests in college, so to fill that void and to feel like you're apart of something you need to buy merch from your university to feel like you're connected to something

[@DOPEdwarf]

I went to community college for 2 years, transferred to UCLA, paid in state tuition and applied for financial aid. Cost me $3000 total

[@wilkstheguitarman3103]

That’s awesome

[@sev2100]

@DOPEdwarf You just do the FASFA for financial aid or something else?

[@DOPEdwarf]

@@sev2100 I applied for financial aid that lowered the tuition costs and then applied for a bunch of grants and scholarships

[@Bearedd]

SMC?

[@pursuitsoflife.6119]

Damn sucks to be OOS

[@THAT.RANDOM.GUY_]

This is pretty much every uni-nut that actually parties 50% of the time.

[@ApolloDawn85]

I always thought it was weird that people have “pride” for the university that they went into crippling debt to attend just to receive a piece of paper that says “I dealt with the bs that is college and somehow I am still unprepared for the real world.”

[@odeswarms]

ig for many it's something to cling onto, without that piece of paper they are left only with the reality of the situation

[@perfectchaos0078]

This story hits too close to home :(

[@bobchannell3553]

It sounds like he spent four years at a beach side resort. Of course he liked being there.

[@MsDudette21]

lol 4 years away from home for the first time. most college bound kids arent excited for education, they're excited to do what they want. can you blame them?

[@p1nkfreud]

The sad thing is that this is partially true; I have trouble finding a job and I have a bachelors...but if I didn't it would be straight up impossible...

[@JohnMiller-yr2qq]

Keep looking, mate! If you don't have much work experience fresh out of college, don't be afraid of getting low and poorly paid entry level jobs. Once you have the experience, it gets better. When I was fresh out of college, I was getting paid less than people doing delivery or retail jobs. A degree doesn't mean you automatically get hired for high paying jobs right out of the gate.

[@MiddleFingerLimited]

@@JohnMiller-yr2qq I'm gonna have to disagree pretty hard. If you take a garbage job, you'll be stuck there forever. You'll be drained from working for peanuts all day, and not even look for a better job. It's what the technology field thrives on. I recommend holding out for something that at least pays a livable wage. Also lie your ass off on your resume, and get family members to pretend to be your former boss. That's what I did, lmao.

[@iamcleaver6854]

I don't know how it is in America, but in Russia almost nobody expects to get a descent job with a bachelor's degree. Your bachelor's is mostly seen as the stepping stone to your master's degree.

[@generalqwer]

Yep a bachelors is basically the new high school diploma. Its not a big deal if you have one, but it is a big deal if you dont.

[@iamcleaver6854]

@@generalqwer Even for engineers?

[@markcook3570]

Went to trade school graduated with no debt....Went straight into middle America and never looked back....

[@kevin007515]

My life story.

[@ilarivaisanen]

It's been 6 years since you commented, curious if you found a job from your field afterwards?

[@spk1121]

Come back, kevin007515, and tell us more! Please don't be dead!

[@NigarT]

@kevin007515 Need that update, pal

[@utkarsh3708]

@@spk1121 maybe he died from covid.... RIP kevin

[@step3293]

@@utkarsh3708 may be he committed sui**de due to depression..RIP Kevin

[@miningclash5593]

This doesn't even seem like a joke. I wouldnt be shocked if something like this was actually shown on the news.

[@aimannorzahariwod]

jesus christ, an onion video that hit me right in the gut... i'm 26 and still floundering in the job market with a degree from a top uni here in Australia... fucking hell

[@wii3willRule]

I recently graduated and I'm trying to pay off nearly $30,000 of loans. I made some mistakes (majoring in math being one of them, not looking for jobs before graduating being another), and so I'm now making $13/hr as a math tutor. I'm saving up everything I make at my job to put towards my loans. I currently live at home so that I can do this. If I don't get a better paying job, it will take a total of 18 months to pay off my debt. I'm trying to look for work, but it's been about 4 months since graduation and I've only gotten 2 non-rejections. Neither have moved forward... I think there's something fundamentally broken about our educational system. I don't think people should be allowed to take out so much in loans with so little oversight. A person shouldn't be taking out loans for an education that won't give them a good financial future, and most colleges barely do anything to make sure that their students are actually ready for the workforce.

[@KTC88]

I feel you, I’m a math major as well and I’ve also had some regrets about majoring in such a theoretical and research-oriented subject. Fortunately for us, we can definitely make ends meet with our degree. I’m currently trying to get a job in data science, which relies on knowledge of probability and statistics. You could also look into becoming an actuary, accountant, or anything financial (the finance industry seems to like math majors). Although in hindsight math might not have been the best subject for us to major in, we can land solid careers with some self teaching. I wish you the best of luck!

[@Ubernoob85]

Hey I know this is youtube comments so they're cancer but if you're really struggling with a math degree, seriously just learn how to program. Grind leetcode for a few months, get yourself a dev job doing development anywhere that will take you. The first year to 18 months will suck. After that you can apply to normal dev jobs and make 60k + per year. You'll pay off your loans by year 2/2.5 of this plan if you do it right.

[@MisterMan171]

Dude I literally feel the same way, I majored in math and was told I could "hardly go wrong" with the degree, and that many companies were "clamoring" for STEM majors. Bullshit. I graduated last summer with a 3.965 GPA and can't find a job. Went to a couple job fairs my junior year with plenty of local companies and none seemed interested. Currently work at a grocery store, as I have been all of college, and have no idea what I want to do. There's no sign I'll be moving out of my parents' house anytime soon. I'm going to see a career counselor soon though. It just seems like I was lied to about the importance of my degree. I thought that I'd take my math classes and just go with the flow and it would lead me somewhere. It didn't.

[@keanuxu5435]

Welcome to America, where pride overrides reality

[@enriquesuarez7113]

damn right lmfao

[@hundredpercentjuice]

How incompetent is the Onions IT department to mark this highly relevant video as 8 years old?

[@christopherjc54]

their IT department is no joke! 😂

[@slofty]

@@christopherjc54 r/whooosh

[@christopherjc54]

@@slofty I shoulda put /s but thought that was obvious on an Onion video

[@slofty]

@@christopherjc54 lol

[@edwardcui7535]

And that’s why you don’t go to college without a plan. Take a gap year if you need to, f it, maybe even take 2, or 3. Get as much real world experiences as possible, and once you figure it out, use college as a way to get there, and no matter what, don’t quit. We all do things we don’t want to do in order to get somewhere we want to be

[@lai6551]

Hard to do when there’s so much pressure to go to college and it’s hard to have the financial independence to tell parents to fuck off

[@supersuperjhon]

This aged like wine.

[@TheSH1N1GAM1]

Yes, very true. I have a little work experience under my belt in my field, and I hope to be doing some more soon. Good luck in IT. You should have plenty of opportunity in that line of work.

[@HisMajesty99]

I thought jokes were supposed to be made up. This ain’t made up, it’s reality

[@2148aa]

Wait til he gets into the White House.

[@Spyrika]

Excuse me, onion? Where are my lols?

[@bubbercakes528]

They took his money and now he periodically goes back to give them more! Go Team!

[@sabastiantaylor7209]

I have a friend that I went to UCLA with. She’s in mega debt pays 460 a month in student loans she is barely surviving but she still contributes 163 a month to gift the school as her alma mater. I paid for school and your endowment is in the billions plus they raised 5.49 billion last year alone. Sometimes she goes without to be able to give an already wealthy school 163 a month.

[@mlkkk2626]

The school left him a broken man, he’s like an ex that continues to contact their former lover

[@Bruh-rv1yg]

I went to University of Oregon for a single year, thankfully my tuition was covered with an awesome scholarship! BUT they required you to live in campus dorms for the first year. I was in one of the oldest dorm rooms---small 2 person rooms, and a communal bathroom for each floor lol... and it cost me $9,500. Once again that was for ONE YEAR! JUST for housing.

[@sarahsayshello9726]

790 a month isn't 2 bad depending where you live. Thats almost double my rent though

[@themashugana9440]

i've never understood the "pride" alumni feel in getting completely ripped off & scammed by their alma mater. it's like paying WAY above & beyond for a shoddy roof job, & parading up & down the neighborhood all exited abt it. & the universities could care less about their graduates. they have the nerve to bum for donations after over charging u for years. i'm proud of my college degree, but i hold a very loose allegiance to the same place that made me walk up to the registrar's office & pay them .04¢ left on my bill before they let me graduate.

[@leudwigvonshwartsenhelm3624]

I used my GI bill to pay for my college I am debt free but I don't have a degree either because I kept changing my major. Now drive a city bus and I make $75000 a year.

[@1MinuteFlipDoc]

with a government pension as well?

[@keeganmoonshine7183]

Nice. I used to talk to a local bus driver and he seemed to be happy. If you don't have a degree going the government route seems to be the best option. I know someone else that ended up working in the post office doing fine as well.

[@noahhubbard1819]

This guy is the epitome of how backwards some student's priorities are.

[@aoxingfang6246]

I went to UM and it, in fact, left me unprepared to start a career. So kudos on your research...

[@straightshootah7550]

haha, i have a BBA from UM, i dont use it for anything. Didnt even hang it on the wall. Matter of fact i dont even know where i put my diploma :) '11

[@Andrea-zo4qy]

When I was in college I used to get wicked hammered. My nickname was puke. I would chug a fifth of socos, sneak into a frat party, polish off a few people's empties, some brewskies, some Jell-O shots, do some body shots off myself, pass out, wake up the next morning, puke, rally, more soco, head to class. Probably would have gotten expelled if I had let it affect my grades, but I aced all my courses. They called me Ace. It was totally awesome. Got straight B's. They called me Buzz.

[@preezypatel]

$50k in debt out of U of Miami is a steal.

[@shadow-dd9de]

this is a man who peaked in college

[@prielknaaphofnar.9754]

I can't peak in high school, I cannot peak at college, I have to peak somewhere man.

[@violetblossom50]

@@prielknaaphofnar.9754 I say mid 30's is a great time to peak

[@blakeavila4409]

normie language

[@bellamafiaquackafellarecor7770]

I haven’t even begun to peak. And when I do, you’ll feel it.

[@christopherregan1654]

At least it's better than peaking in high school.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

1970: Colleges and universities are dedicated to education 2020: Whatever

[@amosdraak3536]

2020: Colleges and universities are dedicated to money

[@TsukiNaito1]

2021: "RACISM AND FASCISTS ARE EVERYWHERE! COME HERE AND PAY TO FIX IT!!!"

[@WhatIveLearned]

Thought this was CNN

[@aaronlaluzerne6639]

The poor guy has no idea how bad he has it.

[@jimmydean4494]

I knee a guy who was a dame graduate and ended up working in a store making $10 a hour. College was truly his biggest accomplishment. He even still wore the school ring lol

[@catniphunter7107]

I went from working at a Qdoba at 16, to jcpenney at 17, to a gas station at 18 and now I have an interview at a state hospital tomorrow and will have state benefits with a full time job at 19. College is kind of a joke unless you need it for your profession.

[@GhostsDontWalk1]

Hope your interview went well. :)

[@straightshootah7550]

damn i miss qdoba... dont have it here in eastern europe

[@honkhonk8009]

lmfao the "academia" community is fucking cancer. Mfs talk about themselves being intellectuals when they have zero industry experience or achievments in life.

[@toomanyhobbies2011]

We used to call them "party schools", like most of the Cal State schools; Calstate San Diego, Calstate Humbolt, etc. Now there are only a few serious colleges; CalTech, and I can't think of another... LOL

[@k4mru7]

This is hilarious and terrifying at the same time

[@humptydumpty3345]

Big Unis are a waste of money, go to a smaller school and save some money

[@gui18bif]

The sad bit is, universities do this pride shit thing so alumnae will never criticize them I got into an argument with my classmates about the teachers ability to teach and educate and they said uhhh the school is so good

[@ahmedshahab4105]

Dumb 18,19,20 year olds I deal with them every day at my uni.

[@bobobsen]

Yeah, in the US. It's always been so strange to me. We have no sports teams here, no sports scholarships, no school colours or mascot or anything. It's just the place you take your lessons at.

[@odeswarms]

they give u things to feel pride in that has nothing to do with the academics usually. It's cool to have a community and experience that stuff if u like it, but without those extra things how would those people feel about their school. It can cause many to overlook its problems, which takes accountability away from the people in charge

[@haj_endot]

Good to hear! We at University Alumni Outreach Group know where he lives, and we keep it as up to date as we can, so we can reach him as fast as possible!

[@pdxmusl1510]

The sad part is, this isn't a joke. Colleges produce pretty much only academics and burger King employees. Unless you just happen to pick an in demand field. But nobody tells you that.

[@silvasilvasilva]

I might be wrong, but anyone who needs to be told that a low-demand field isn't in their best interest probably has bigger issues to address.

[@no1reallycaresabout2]

Problem is what's in demand changes over the 4-5 years it takes to complete a major.

[@marygr9396]

"My college experience cost me 140k but I wouldn't trade it for anything" Would you trade it for 140.000 dollar?

[@sarcasmo57]

Cool! Can't wait to go there!

[@andrewhofmann5453]

Only $50k???? Those are rookie numbers son!!! Gotta get those up, waayyy up!!! Dont come back and cry until thats at least $160k....

[@sage_sydney]

This video was posted almost 10 years ago and it’s still 100% accurate

[@marp00n]

i like how "his" has brackets around it in the description

[@UnitSe7en]

It isn't though. Words in [square] brackets are implied, not explicit. Added for clarification. There's nothing special, satirical or sarcastic about the quote in the description. I guess you didn't even graduate high school?

[@NJ-wb1cz]

@@UnitSe7en why do you have the need to feel superior to random people online?

[@spk1121]

@@UnitSe7en: Marp00n made an honest mistake. I thought you were being helpful until your last sentence. _You_ ended up looking like a moron, not Marp00n.

[@UnitSe7en]

@@spk1121 I'm not the one that thinks there was something special being implied, but, okay then. You are of course free to have that opinion, just as long as you know that opinions aren't valid - Only truth is.

[@UnitSe7en]

@@NJ-wb1cz Why do you think your self-referential username is clever?

[@nicklukashevich3796]

This is golden!

[@WilsonStoat]

Excellent point.

[@soonerdave01]

The Onion isn't always about satire. Sometimes they take the truth and throw in right in your face.

[@whistletoe]

your username aged incredibly well

[@bigbufobufo]

Isn’t that the truth

[@leonardopessanha5128]

Too much truth. People can't handle, hence the low visualization

[@w3vjp568]

I may have spent tens of thousands of dollars needlessly on over-priced tuition, and gotten nothing in return, but that won't stop me from compounding my bad choices by voting for whichever politicians will let me abscond on my debt, and pass the bill to the taxpayers.

[@pspfreaktr]

@00:52 I was expecting his mom to burst in to the room when he was yelling to tell him to "shut the fuck up"

[@infinummjb]

When I watched it as a satire I smiled, when I realized it is true I LOLed.

[@firstnamelastname2643]

I never realized the only reason most people are extremely loyal to certain colleges is because they are so financially invested in that school, like being invested in a stock...

[@ekkehard8]

That's why it's called stockholm syndrome

[@ubeube6174]

this hits different now

[@DomozoveoGZ]

This makes me thankful that my college is one of the cheaper colleges in my state

[@25henrywatson]

My step-brother is going to this University, I'm dying to show him this video

[@nebulousverse]

The amount of college students in America who get fleeced by their university for the "college experience" is downright hilarious.

[@ofallmyintention9496]

The entire education system in this country is a joke, from elementary to college.

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

This physically hurt.

[@UnderAvg]

YOU ARE THE KIND OF PERSON THE INTERNET NEEDS MORE OF ~

[@drewbc32]

Sadly, this is as real as it gets...

[@mikef2813]

Athletes call it “The U” because that’s as far as they can get with the spelling.

[@sylentknight]

lol, The Rock begs to differ.

[@mikef2813]

@@sylentknight that’s one.

[@MariaSantos-em5jv]

Looks like "U" had a very successful career at "The U" sir.

[@DJMoistSausage]

May i just say you are a very smart person and i appreicate your calm and rational thoughts

[@OmnipotentO]

This is too real.

[@absoluthysterics]

Graduated last year with $120k in debt and an engineering degree ...still unemployed You made it so easy to sign my name away to private loans! THANKS EXPENSIVE PRIVATE UNIVERSITY! FEELS GOOD NOT BEING ABLE TO JOIN THE WORKFORCE!

[@kanisch5825]

how've you been doing since then?

[@olivercuenca4109]

Yeah, give us an update. Did it get any better?

[@Hobinator17]

@@olivercuenca4109 I heard he joined a circus train

[@Thunder_Dome45]

@@kanisch5825 Probably blew himself up in the admissions office.

[@petergressler1498]

​@@Thunder_Dome45 lmao.

[@sminem6572]

As a UM undergrad, I can confirm that this video is not satire

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

1:00 he says - go canes baby , caption reads - go pay for more . I’m thinking - go paycheck baby

[@GiorgiAptsiauriX]

Yep, I confirm.

[@mikesoftner5833]

Lmao. This is too good.

[@imt3206]

I wonder where the fuck did they found a lot of actors and actresses for their vids. Awesome

[@antenna_prolly]

Undiscovered talent is everywhere.

[@gordon4385]

You think he was acting?

[@lwandiso7149]

Wow the cold hard truth in this clip is unmatched

[@assassinblack7695]

This hurt me.

[@jgcane]

as a miami alumni, i found this very inaccurate. Also we have a bar on campus in between classrooms