osu!mapping: view options

continuing with detailed explanations of overlooked aspects of the editor by covering four view options and their impacts
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maps referenced:
Nekomata Master feat. Hayashi Momoko - Rainbow after snow by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/291996
Jin feat.LiSA - Yuukei Yesterday by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/493851
Kage - FIRST by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/461048
Maduk ft. Veela - Ghost Assassin (Hourglass Bonusmix) by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/474190
Wakeshima Kanon - world's end, girl's rondo by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/514197
Tsukasa - Heat of Bramble by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/530119
Nekomata Master+ - Kung-fu Empire by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/418725
Asterisk - Rain by Monstrata: osu.ppy.sh/b/860022
SOUND HOLIC Vs. dj TAKA feat. YURiCa - TIEFSEE by handsome: osu.ppy.sh/b/640007
xi - Zauberkugel by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1296762
Rameses B - We Are One (feat. Veela) by Strategas: osu.ppy.sh/b/1113708
Blue Stahli - Throw Away by Peachtrees: osu.ppy.sh/b/792420
Delain - Go Away by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1017900
96neko - Uso no Hibana by Sonnyc: osu.ppy.sh/b/1183232
REOL - YoiYoi Kokon by [ Drop ]: osu.ppy.sh/b/1146122
yuki. - Nadeshiko Sensation by Kibbleru: osu.ppy.sh/b/1243816
Underoath - Writing on the Walls by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/659477
kooky - unhappy century by ktgster: osu.ppy.sh/b/663887
Streetlight Manifesto - Somewhere In The Between by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/980988
Chasers - Lost by ktgster: osu.ppy.sh/b/374114
Nekomata Master - Following Flow by Beomsan: osu.ppy.sh/b/1087689
Mediks - Doomsday by Strategas: osu.ppy.sh/b/1155984
Suara - Amakakeru Hoshi TV ver. by Taeyang: osu.ppy.sh/b/899732
Gold Season - Experiment A by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1075039
Nekomata Master+ - Proof of the existence by Alheak: osu.ppy.sh/b/923589
Pierce The Veil - She Sings In The Morning by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/940283
Negoto - Charon (DJ SEVEN PnB Refix) by toybot: osu.ppy.sh/b/761792
Buta-Otome - Sharekoube by Damnae: osu.ppy.sh/b/683086
Rise Against - Whereabouts Unknown by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/729829
Mike Greene - Bill Nye the Science Guy Theme Song (Chinese Intro) by Monstrata: osu.ppy.sh/b/932904
BUMP OF CHICKEN - Hello,world! by pishifat: osu.ppy.sh/b/1212484

[@Hollipolli]

Osu!mapping: Damnae

[@pishifat]

this time it's not tho lol

[@Hollipolli]

pishifat ☹

[@Fauzan1812]

Hollipolli aka the damnae episode

[@sing90]

you don't need to turn on stacking view if u always use stack leniency 0 xd

[@ProfessionalBox]

Sing this ^

[@whippermcsnipper7775]

honestly, I wish stack 0 was still rankable. Some really cool shit was made with it.

[@MaemiNoYume]

isn't it? I just downloaded a map that has many stacks 0s

[@bananya6020]

Maemi No Yume probably old

[@MaemiNoYume]

@@bananya6020 it's not old at all. Search for succducc

[@digtalfear1177]

That peppy fakeout though. I saw it coming, but still really funny lol

[@meta04]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jne9epl-i9N8eac this too... Japan fakeout that was much harder to see through "unsurprisingly [zooms in on Japan while saying some really unnecessarily wordy stuff] levels that were made in ... [pans suddenly to Belgium and plants a flag] Belgium! ...Japan being close second..."

[@ProfessionalBox]

thanks for this, now the next time I stream I will have to listen to even more complaints about me not using stacking in editor enforced by this xd

[@Aidiakapi]

ProfessionalBox So... Turn on stacking? Problem solved.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

or use stack laniency 0 :^)

[@ExplosiveBrohoof]

Oh crap. I've been making my life pain by enabling snaking sliders and hit animations this whole time. No wonder I've always had trouble finding overlap problems!

[@HoutarouOrekiOsu]

That disclaimer at 5:21 on the bottom-right corner

[@Nekomosh004]

7:25 That yellow flash on the hitcircle tho.... HAHAHAHA

[@nurielkaunaini2584]

i love how you zoom slowly to peppy

[@imeverywhere629]

I thought you were gonna say peppy instead of damnae xd

[@sleepy33333]

i thought he will say loctav :/

[@fadedlamp42]

thats the entire joke

[@imeverywhere629]

Peter '-' ye ik but i wanted to comment it

[@meta04]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jne9epl-i9N8eac this too... Japan fakeout that was much harder to see through "unsurprisingly [zooms in on Japan while saying some really unnecessarily wordy stuff] levels that were made in ... [pans suddenly to Belgium and plants a flag] Belgium! ...Japan being close second..."

[@miwiki6]

2:19 literally never noticed that was a thing

[@NO122221]

Wow! New ver of editor? Exciting!

[@Karxy]

You know what isn’t exciting? How much money you save on car insurance by switching to Geico.

[@timcan9483]

The I told you so is strong with this one

[@chromasiaLIVE]

these videos are the highlights of my weekends

[@Some_Awe]

No more peppy in the supporters list

[@malevolution7041]

He's there.

[@Some_Awe]

Malevolution wait what.. i couldve sworn he wasnt!

[@kanamea5786]

Stacking note option isn't 100% benefits though. If you're someone like me who organizes notes using in game objects (like drawing a slider from a circle to make sure the next note will be properly aligned), the stacking note option will keep shifting those notes intended for measurement despite them never seeing play. There's easy solution to never have any stacking errors: lower the stack leniency and never stack notes. Manually displace them when you need to. Only having option to extend diagonally feels very limiting anyways.

[@r3ked272]

osu!mapping: enable stacks in the editor

[@0404aviv]

osu!mapping: stacking

[@sh_dragon]

As a beginner mapper, I prefer mapping without stacking on, but I guess I'll have to adapt to having it on from now on, since it can lead to some pretty significant errors. Great vid!

[@MandrakeGuy]

the stacked sliders going off the screen is the funniest thing- imagine being a mod or something getting this map having stacks disabled :KEKW: you'd think this is like a joke or something thats amazing-

[@mattias6182]

haha, I've enabled stacking a few times but it always felt so jank stacking stuff and then moving few pixels for manual stacking or something, even tho it would take like a minute max to get used to it, I always feel "ugh" as soon as I ctrl+arrowkey and I disable it lol. nonetheless those mistakes you point out doesn't really happen since I frequently watch the maps on auto and can spot those dum slider slider stacks, but maybe I should enable it anyways for those bill nye moments even tho i rarely stack sliders on sliders anyways ha

[@D3CD95]

Is there any type of skin you would advise to use / avoid to map?

[@samuelwinters8016]

Could you talk about different parts of the .osu file? Like changing slider velocity to over x2 or under .5, stuff like that?

[@commentator3513]

taiko mode

[@tearstone8231]

I like mapping, it seems really fun, and I started working on this 3 minute song remix. But some of the parts I mapped it looks shit to me, so I change it a bit but it still looks like shit. How do I map all of it without feeling like I should kill myself after?

[@asmylia9880]

Da nk I kinda know how you feel. what helped me was to stop thinking while mapping, literally. I mean, basically, no map is a *masterpiece* as it's been told. every map got their faults, but mappers stopped thinking about everything and focused themselves on just calm down, closing their eye's, stop thinking and just feel the rhythm. Also, and I know it's a bad help, but "map more". seriously, by mapping more, you're going to find out ways which would fit more than the current things. Also, variety. what also helped me, especially when I had a creativity hole. sticking yourself to one map by force won't work. listen to other songs. are there similar rhythms? how would you map those songs? or play maps. look into other maps. ever wanted to make a monstrata pp farming map? go for it. download one of his and open them in the editor and take your inspiration from them (but don't make it too obviously, there already was a mapper who got literally "punished" for it *cough* Kroytz *cough* I hope I could give you some shots you can go for.

[@tearstone8231]

Thank you for the help. I just wanted to make the map look nice and also be properly timed like the others. -Curved sliders suck-

[@asmylia9880]

Da nk yeah, but there isn't a clear solution for everything, related to mapping. all I can do is to recommend to slowly watch pishi's videos and try to experiment on your own. Also my advices from above can be a big help, too.

[@zunv]

@Da nk its all just practice. Create a map, then ask some ppl for feedback (or mods if you get some) after that start a new map but this time try to avoid the mistakes you did on your last one. Do this with like 10 maps at least and you will get a LOT better in mapping.

[@rudyramadhana4127]

He is just damn good, it is in his name, damn :) ~threramdans

[@VinceIsDatBitch]

Howgood?

[@malox7176]

10,000 subscriber special when ?

[@pishifat]

never :(

[@RaphaBaruffi]

:(

[@meta04]

​@@pishifat beginning peppy/Damnae fakout was cool but have you seen this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jne9epl-i9N8eac "unsurprisingly [zooms in on Japan while saying some really unnecessarily wordy stuff] levels that were made in ... [pans suddenly to Belgium and plants a flag] Belgium! ...Japan being close second..."

[@pacboy5434]

a video just for 4 options ? ok , but i think soon it will be the end of theses videos , you teach us a lot and i dn what you can teach us now ...

[@asmylia9880]

Pacboy there are tons of techniques he can talk about and playerstyles, the history of osu!mapping (god might be for me a good time travel) and so on. there's enough topics for at least pishi 2020

[@pishifat]

i think i'll manage a while longer. if viewers knew what i could talk about already, i wouldn't need to make videos in the first place, right?

[@pacboy5434]

ok then ... teach me senpai !

[@mezelyus-]

mind=blown

[@truebobbian]

0:30 IRJDJCJJDJDDJ DID I HEAR YUUKEI YESTERDAY?!?! d:D

[@TheMohawk36]

I'm not sure if I ever touched these, but 'snaking sliders' follow points' and 'stacking' seem to be enabled by default.

[@mombei9835]

I know you can fuse sliders together, but do you know whether there exists a way to separate a slider into multiple sliders? More tha once such a feature would've helped me with overlaps and aesthetics

[@pishifat]

pretty much the same way you combine them. copy coordinates into a different slider

[@mombei9835]

pishifat I figured it would be something like that. I might experiment with it next time

[@_emik]

Can you make a video for skinning? (in a map)

[@Sarcastitonea]

step 1: make skin for map step 2: drag all the elements of that skin into song folder step 3: Song Setup > Design > Preferred Skin > User's preference step4: u r now tewi gg

[@ZeldaMstr109]

10:16 low on the spectrum. nice.

[@osuSonnyc]

Good video! Got something to question about the contents though. I do understand your point about "taking stack effects occurred in-game plays in the consideration when modding maps". However, what do you think about the unnecessary manual stacks that are caused because of the stack option enabled? I'm one of the mappers who are using the stack toggle disabled, and with such setting, I'm seeing so many maps that are using manual stacks when they aren't really necessary. That itself isn't that bad when playing with no mods, but when "Hardrock" is enabled, maps get broken and lead to an unintended behavior. The example of Monstrata's Advanced difficulty you've shown in this video also has the same issue. It plays with no flaw normally, but with hardrock, it's quite.... bad which could've been improved. I'm not really sure if turning the stack option on is always the best action to take. Something kinda case by case imo.

[@mindmaster_osu]

osu!Sonnyc that sounds more like a problem with the stack algorithm, over the toggle option being used correctly.

[@notarnar8336]

enable stacks pls

[@rezzor_]

general kanobi

[@YMilkshake]

Peppy maps > life

[@imbernell]

D I S C O N T I N U I T Y

[@DJruslan4ic]

You know that the video is old that instead of osu Lazer it's osu next

[@Opblaasmaatje]

Couldn't you just have used the criossant remix I sent you for this? 11:05

[@ragnarokvii]

Reading level : enable stacks

[@koreytrinh]

hr annoys me when it comes to stacking as it can break stacking based patterns and even make objects off screen at times.

[@Some_Awe]

nice intro hahaha

[@dead_weight]

Hello There!

[@shiine3766]

hi !

[@LittleLivboj]

:D

[@Valgyan]

Hello therE!

[@SoI-]

2:32 and it lags low end pcs

[@CarolinaMafiaTV]

Play the new zombies

[@CarolinaMafiaTV]

Pla

[@CarolinaMafiaTV]

Ples

[@CarolinaMafiaTV]

please* Jesus my bad

[@imeverywhere629]

No subtitles :(

[@james-rl4wz]

learn english

[@imeverywhere629]

Jamez Chan i've been learning english for years but I still don't understand some words when I'm on a noisy place

[@Voxnolatta]

I was Damnae before he was cool :D

[@Y337n3ss]

here is a use for the options: hit animations: for seeing how an already-made pattern looks in gameplay without having to play that section same for snaking sliders. another use for follow points is if (for some reason) it makes the map *harder* to read, you can tell. a use for stacking (which you know, but everyone else ignores) is *BEING BETTER AT MODDING!!! WAKE UP, THIS IS NOT 2007 ANYMORE!!!!*

[@izikblu]

Hello there!

[@Andy-er3vn]

H E L L O T H E R E

[@Hana-xh2dj]

I miss the old Pishi :( Y o u S u c k A t M a p p i n g

[@deso2]

hello there nacht 100

[@pishifat]

welcome to

[@bananya6020]

100th comment

[@haleauFN]

HELLO THERE

[@Vadosity]

"osu!mapping" peppy status: *triggered*