RedLetterMedia AVP Commentary

[@erroneous6947]

I’m a geologist. A buddy from school went on to do government work on Antarctica. He almost froze to death when the heater went out overnight. The lack of real cold is stupid in this movie.

[@zdrident]

I honestly don't even get it. In "The Thing" the cold is just as threatening to the characters as the monster. What a giant missed opportunity

[@pll9000]

They hired bodybuilders to play the predators. The original predator was played by Kevin Peter Hall. A very tall man indeed, but lean. The added bulk of his costume didn't make him look goofy. And he carefully crafted his character's body language. The AvP predators bumble about like drunk toddlers.

[@MrSnaztastic]

Not just that, but the designs were even intentionally made more muscular to have a "superhero" look with super big chests. It looks okay on the lead Predator who actually was a 7ft basketball player, but on the short Czech stunt guys the proportions get hilarious.

[@redtexan7053]

It was really rude of the Alien and the Predator to have this whole big shindig in Antarctica and *not* invite The Thing. I mean, come on, he lives *right there.* Imagine how that must have felt. The rejection. The embarrassment.

[@6Shooter28]

he overslept

[@TheElectricMayhem]

What would happen if a face hugger impregnated The Thing!? 🤯

[@stevesmith9447]

@@TheElectricMayhem ngl, I want that crossover now.

[@PyrokineticFire1]

I think acid blood prevent the Thing from consuming a xenomorph... it could incubate a new breed of xenomorphs with shape-shifting powers (and maybe survive the process!)

[@channnel14]

Universal owns the rights :(

[@kobold1538]

For all these years Mike thought the ship on LV-426 belonged to the Xenomorphs, which means he pictured one just sitting flying the ship and operating complex navigational equipment. I love this man.

[@leonefurlan137]

and blasting the stereo (in the derelict)!? Probably smoking cigarettes when flying as well...

[@ZeranZeran]

Sounds like a cool space cowboy

[@Hoganply]

I always thought the Alien being some bioweapon-transpoirting space trucker's pet lizard that got into the ship's hold and trurned into a xenomorph was a fun idea. Still a better story than Prometheus.

[@eclectic_gamer]

that was an idea that was cut, at one point Ridley wanted the alien to kill Ripley in the shuttle and then start operating the ship and then you would hear the alien speaking in Ripley's voice, he told Fox his idea and the next day he had like 5 producers on set to stop him, because in the original script the whole thing with the alien being blown out of the airlock in the shuttle never existed, Ripley escaped in the shuttle and the alien was killed when the ship self destructs.

[@idiot_city5444]

No, that's just Mike with his "dumb" shtick

[@yrenekurtz5268]

Jay liking Alien 3 more than Aliens is the most "Jay" thing ever.

[@dr.decker3623]

It's also facts. Aliens 2 is a cash grab.

[@bud389]

@@dr.decker3623 Alien 3 is a cash grab. ALIENS was an original idea. Them killing off Newt and Hicks is a slap in the face to anyone who cared about those characters, and even the director of Alien 3 to this day still hates that movie with a passion. The only reason they killed off Newt and Hicks was to get Ripley alone again. Arguing some BS reason that it's closer to the original, when the original was nowhere near as depressing and ended on a light note with Ripley escaping with her kitty is laughable.

[@zyncra3965]

Alien 3 is better than Aliens by any margin

[@yrenekurtz5268]

@@zyncra3965 Can'r agree, and I like Alien 3. The theatrical version is a mess, whereas Aliens threatrical flows perfectly fine.

[@SpawnRevenge92]

People who say Alien 3 is good need to rewatch it. It's great in concept but it's a fucking mess. I also remembered it being good, then I rewatched it with a friend and we were shocked at how badly put together it is.

[@supraturtle]

Best point brought up, IMO: The problem with sequels and spin-offs is the simplification of the lore. I NEVER for one second thought the Predator's species were entirely dedicated to hunting. The rocket jockey was just another truck driver who ran afoul of the Xenomorphs. All corporations have evil in them... 'the Company' from the original was just another company. I groan every time I hear "it's a jungle planet" after the scan. I think you guys have brought such points up previously, t'is why I appreciate being witness to your decent into alcoholic nihilism.

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

Yeah, just like the Star Wars universe, every planet has only one climate zone that covers the whole planet.. 😆 😅 😂 🤣

[@DeadManSinging1]

The Company from the Original is Weyland Yutani. They have a different logo, but its the same company. You can see it on the computer screens. As the predators, the comics establish that they are an advanced society and the hunters are just one caste (albeit a very powerful one)

[@0lionheart]

It's one of the things I utterly despise about Prometheus; binding humanity, the xenomorph and the jockeys together makes the universe feel very, very small. Wasn't it also Weyland, too? I really loved originally how it was never explained what the creature in the chair was, where it came from, were there more on the ship? Did they find the Alien, or were they transporting it? Were they aware of humanity, or were we so insignificant we didn't even appear on their radar?

[@nutyyyy]

​​@@DeadManSinging1It's actually Weylan-Yutani in Alien, James Cameron added the d in Aliens.

[@idiot_city5444]

The entire point of the Preds is that their entire culture is based off the hunt... lol.

[@FumblsTheSniper]

Mike can’t shut up about Star Trek and Jay can’t shut up about Evil Dead. I won’t ever shut up about RLM.

[@Mdgld]

Fun fact, fox told Cameron he could still work on the 5th alien movie-they just wanted to put out AVP to drum up excitement for the franchise. He responded with, “why bother painting your front door when your fucking house is on fire”

[@koanikal]

The Space Jockey was killed on it's own ship by a xenomorph, when it burst out of his chest. Xenomorphs pretty much are just animals. They're not spacefaring. Get your shit together Mike!

[@leonefurlan137]

when ALIEN was still just a concept,the first few script iterations had xenomorphs being inteligent.when mature,and killing other lifeforms only in the facehugger/chestburster stages!

[@ShootMeMovieReviews]

@@leonefurlan137 Fine, but in the movie it's very clearly as sirpicksalot says.

[@DeadManSinging1]

@@leonefurlan137 The aliens are just dumb animals.

[@nutyyyy]

It's ambiguous in the first film. The idea was that they might have some sort of intelligence and just be malevolent. But it's never explained to you. In Aliens, they're Space bugs with a hivemind. Which works fine for that film but ruins the Aliens a bit. Though I still love Aliens.

[@nutyyyy]

I always interpreted the eggs in the ship as either being cargo on the ship, with the jockeys transporting them like Weylan-Yutani wanted to do or that the crew had been turned into eggs like Dallas and Brett were.

[@jasonfischer8946]

I just finished listening to the Batman and Robin one and I look at my phone and this pops up. Everything's coming up Jason!

[@michaelross3241]

Same

[@demonsty]

who's jason?

[@demonsty]

i woke up from almost falling asleep while having this on in the background when i heard what jay said about alien 3

[@obombomattatetrahondamog1461]

4 months post production and they made something this decent is pretty impressive tbh.

[@ssjenforcer191191191]

I remember seeing the behind the scenes released before this movie and getting so hyped by all the content.

[@glassbakeware]

I am physically sick at the thought of missing out on a Cameron/Scott team up Alien.

[@Joshbobjovi]

Just as sick that I am that it was Scott that convinced Fox to take the franchise from Blomkamp.

[@IDHLEB]

@@Joshbobjovi as if Blomkamp did something good in 10 years

[@DeadManSinging1]

@@IDHLEB Dudes projects keep being cancelled. I think he still has promise

[@DeepEye1994]

@@Joshbobjovi I dunno, Scott in interviews has stated that it was entirely Fox's choice of picking him over Blomkamp, had his version get the green light, Scott said he would've gladly been one of the producers. Like how he's being for the upcoming Alien film by the Evil Dead 2013 guy.

[@shaddonon]

24:06 the shot you decided to close with, it’s perfect-perfect! 🤣

[@Javrixx]

Thank you for making these!

[@BurnDoubt]

It's not like either Series has this interesting mythology or depth to it. - Jay Despite about three more iterations of each series, this quote has aged perfectly. Cheers Jay

[@mojotheaverage]

I hate to do the whole 'the expanded universe is better' thing but I genuinely think that the old Aliens comic series was a much better sequel to Aliens than Alien 3, and I like Alien 3. It really brought things to a head with the Aliens basically infesting earth and the military complex actually trying out the idea of using a queen Alien to usurp control of them. It was super interesting and saw Newt grown up, Hicks basically being disabled after his injuries in Aliens. It was awesome

[@nutyyyy]

I think if you're going to drag out the series pointlessly then it would be much more crowd pleasing to do more Aliens style action, colonial marines and the company trying to study the Alien. Some of the comics are definitely strange and unsettling, which is what you want to go for in an alien film. After Aliens the genie is out of the bottle and it's hard to go back to a single alien hiding in the shadows, though a straight up remake of Alien with the same cinematography and only seeing glimpses of the Alien would be far more effective than anything we actually got, though it would be ultimately pointless. I think the logical next step in the series should have been a film set on a giant space station with more Aliens action. Whether or not Ripley, Newt and Hicks were involved is another question entirely. As much as the happy ending from Aliens doesn't fit the tone of Alien, I do think that undermining it in the next film isn't the best way to go. So maybe the next film takes place later. But the problem is that without Ripley you lose that connection to the previous films.

[@milton7763]

Jay explaining the history of almost-Alien 5 and Rich just going “oh no!” In the back is some of the most hilarious stuff I’ve heard on RLM 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@Edeinawc]

You're amongst the best editors on youtube, and that's a large pool of people. Amazing!

[@SewerTapes]

Agreed 100%.

[@Fork1]

Say what you want, but the ending where the Predator and the main female lead have a non-verbal conversation with each other is done pretty good!

[@dr.decker3623]

because it is lifted completely from "deadliest of Species" comics.

[@Fork1]

@@dr.decker3623 It's an adaptation so I imagine it would pick good parts from the source material (now I assume that is tha AvP-comics)!

[@baldanders8717]

Decent use of damage control, seeing how bad she is at delivering lines

[@gargamellenoir8460]

Honestly, for a cash grab developed in a few months, this was surprisingly average.

[@estebanperez2557]

Yea they've had better commentary tracks for sure

[@SAMagic]

@@estebanperez2557 Hey oh!

[@ressljs]

I hated this movie when I got dragged to see it in theaters. But that was mostly because I heard Alien V was in early preproduction but was cancelled when James Cameron found out they were making AvP and he pulled out of Alien V because they thought they were making a joke out of the franchise. I watched it again a few years ago and was surprised to find myself sort of mildly entertained. It's exactly what you would expect if, using no creativity, someone jammed together Aliens and Predator, and absolutely nothing more than that. But it's not terrible.

[@leonefurlan137]

@@ressljs and also,they àtleast tried to make somerhing new,not a rehash/remake/reboot...

[@d3l3tes00n]

The biggest mistake they made was not going full on R for this movie.

[@SewerTapes]

I desperately tried to like this movie out of love for Aliens and Predator, but there came a point when I had to admit I was just lying to myself.

[@Vaporvice84]

I grew up on both franchises despite being too young for them. I even rewatched Predator 2 the other night. I have never nor will ever watch the AvP movies. There's simply no interest.

[@SewerTapes]

@@Vaporvice84 You're not missing out on anything. I went to the theater to see the second one, and it's the only time I ever fell asleep at the movies. To this day I've never seen AVPR in one sitting, despite trying 4 times. That movie is scientifically formulated with specific colors/patterns to make me lose consciousness. Also, Predator 2 doesn't get enough love. It is a masterpiece.

[@Robozilla]

Mortal kombat with Alien & Predator does exist, Rich!

[@frasermanley9903]

"Generations apart and they look the same?" ....Picard season 2 just dropped the question mark.

[@dr.decker3623]

there is lots of lore,.. lol they sounded like Kathleen Kennedy on StarWars on that one,.. she also didn't realize books and comics exist. These are Tribal / blooding rituals for clans, fighting different types of Aliens using different lifeforms to make hosts/embryos is part of their rituals, they involved them ever since they first fought them and learned about how they "breed"... Predator race prides gladitorial strength, they are "high tech" (from our POV) barbarians / spartans basically. The story of this movie is more or less taken from the "Deadliest of Species" series. The cover must have inspired them, because they use the female getting handed an "alien tail spear" in this movie in the exact same composition. The Pyramid is from a time when Antarctica was free of ice,.. about 13000 years ago (it froze during the northern polar cap melt)

[@RetroBacon1]

That’s because all that is useless if it’s not in the movie. Nobody cares

[@grimkaizer8417]

@@RetroBacon1 its still something to draw inspiration from. Marvel movies work because they can take the most adaptable parts of the source material.

[@johnlocke9383]

Let's make a religion around Rich Evans so RLM can be tax exempt.

[@Thagomizer]

He probably deserves it more than Scientology or Satanism.

[@Hickjackass2k10]

The guys aren't giving this movie enough credit. The pyramid is not a climatic hunt, but an initiation for predators. The walls shift because it's like a predator training course, this is what they do to become "blooded hunters". That's why the predator marks the woman at the end, she's a graduated hunter. And they use humans rather than other animals because of the adaptations given by the human host - a prey with increased intelligence. In the movie the aliens work together, like human hunters. I think this movie is rather good for a cash-grab. I'd take this over that thing Shane Black put out.

[@DaveDexterMusic]

ok even with that credit it's... fine

[@dr.decker3623]

this is not a hunt to be blooded, its clan initiation, blooded is a passage of adulthood, the initiation is like making your grade in the armed forces. The pyramid is from a time when there was no ice, roughly 56000- 13000 years ago, before the north pole melted and the south pole froze. This movie is lifted from 2 series that got smashed together really,.. Hell on High Water, and Deadliest of Species.

[@pll9000]

I'll watch that over Prometheus any day. Fuck that movie. And its sequel.

[@DeadManSinging1]

I said the other day that this movie has the same plot as Prometheus

[@CrackerJacker79]

I am using this part of the internet to say that Jay is right about Alien 3(But nobody should ever be tricked into watching the 'Director's Cut' version of it because while it adds shots, it competely wrecks the climactic moment of the movie). Also Alien was about one group of unprepared truck drivers coming into contact with just the weirdest cargo ship where the driver(?) died at the hands of the cargo. Cold Frying Pan => Fire. Aliens are rats that got loose. Every movie after the first just says to you 'Hey...do you remember the rats? Cool. Me too.'. There are Alien stories that could make a new movie/tv show and be interesting, but I'm not sure they're going to make a movie about a shlubby guy whose taste for Royal Jelly tilts him too close to the wind. Especially nowadays(Shout outs to the people who have the Star content on Disney+, I hear not everyone gets that).

[@DaveDexterMusic]

what in fuck are you on about

[@MIsterB716]

AvP:R makes this movie look like Alien or Aliens.

[@specknacken6507]

"When you watch a porn you wanna see some fuckin' in the first 10 minutes." If someone just said that to Paul W.S. Anderson in the first meeting for the movie he'd definitely been like "Oh yeah right..." and movie would've turned out better.

[@lingusdingua4889]

Lance Henriksen is my favorite actor.

[@probablynotmyname8521]

The temple in avp is a proving ground for young predators, they go there to get their first “real” kill.

[@jonathanw1019]

People forget that Aliens had an easter egg set up for a third movie. At the end of the film, as the credits are finishing, there is a distinct facehugger scuttling sound. It is clear there's something on the ship, and there's only so many places to lay an egg.

[@shioq.]

I appreciate that you don't add dumb jokes in your video.

[@ardas77]

i appreciate dumb jokes in commentaries

[@Jmnzz]

Edit to add: I wouldn't have minded Alien 3 being depressing if they just didn't kill Newt. "BuT ThAt'S TheEE PoiNT, ThAt's WhAT MakES it DepppPPEsssSSSinnnNNGG" SHUT UP 😣😑 "There are at least 3 Lance Hendriksons in the alien saga" Nope. There are four. AVP the the game has another who is behind the Marine story arc in the game 🤗 He is also voiced by Lance

[@Ohio.Gozaimasu]

"Weyling"

[@l-wook]

Okay now. When this movie came out I expected total junk, as a alien/predator fan. When I rented it I was pleasantly surprised at how well it executed this idea, it was entertaining. AvP-R, now that is total junk.

[@jacob4920]

AVP 2: Definitely on the long list of "Sequels that should never have been made."

[@Flike245]

The opening scene from the Fede Alvarez Evil Dead rules.

[@mbryson2899]

The Lance Henriksens look different if you view them near dark.

[@CommissionerSleer]

The Alien weekend hunters, with office jobs during the week, needs to be a Robot Chicken series of sketches.

[@Venator2015]

Look I love RLM and usually appreciate their commentaries but for most of this I just wanted them to shut the hell up and laugh. This movie is schlocky fun and the RLM crew would have been having a ball if they hadn’t had any of the previous Alien or Predator movies as context.

[@6Shooter28]

i think ewen bremner's entire career at this point is just "the Scottish guy." wasn't he also just "the Scottish guy" in Wonder Woman?

[@the.gods.of.obliviousity]

Wasn't he also the Scottish guy in the Rundown? Complete with bagpipes and kilt?

[@tdog999100]

He's been the Scottish guy in alot of stuff

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

He played an American in "Black Hawk Down".

[@Joshbobjovi]

He's absolutely fantastic in Our Flag Means Death though.

[@Fardawg]

Crocodile Dundee 1 was the film where he was a fish out of water in the city. Two was about him going back to the outback in order to trap the drug cartel villains. I love the first two films and actually prefer the sequel because it has more action, whereas the first one is more of a romantic comedy. Third one was PG shyte.

[@venomfuryx3250]

I liked this movie.

[@dennisplester1542]

Me too. Is it a bit dumb? Yes. Did it stop me from enjoying it? No! It’s one of my guilty pleasures that I watch at least once a year as part of watching all of the Aliens and Predators movies. Gotta say I do struggle with AVP Requiem though.

[@FUCKINGENIOUS]

I didn't

[@venomfuryx3250]

@@FUCKINGENIOUS it's fine.

[@Ineedcoffee-n4j]

I didnt have an issue with the movie I always love a predator movie

[@shioq.]

we need Freddy vs. Alien. Jason vs. Predator.

[@SewerTapes]

Freddy vs. Alien vs. Jason vs. Predator. . . in Jurassic Park.

[@dr.decker3623]

on the enterprise

[@rodentnolastname6612]

at least they didn't shoehorn in a John Carpenter's The Thing easter egg...

[@AbsentMinded619]

2004 movie: “her character is that she’s a Black woman.” Better get used to that from lazy Hollywood

[@gonzalodavidvazquezgonzale5796]

Wheee can I see the unedited version. Can find any of these on yt

[@tadpolegaming4510]

The full commentaries are audio only on the RLM Bandcamp

[@JackLawless01]

You'll have to give RLM some money for that my friend.

[@MrThompson88893]

No you don't. it free on band camp. You can donate money if you like

[@gonzalodavidvazquezgonzale5796]

Thanks for your replies! Ill check them out

[@sloppyjoe4017]

AVP begrudgingly qualifies as a sci fi film.. but does it really? ( is 2:55 a James Rolfe cameo?)

[@SewerTapes]

More Syfy than sci fi.

[@gearcheck101]

holy shit.. Mike... Engineers are not xenomorphs.

[@hammerhead222]

The movie was ok. It is watchable. I do like the first four as well.

[@ht8384]

Mike vs Rich….. who will win?

[@DeadManSinging1]

Theres a deleted opening scene where the predator fights an alien in 1904

[@re9246]

There’s a dumb whaling station alternate opening scene in 1904. So, I guess.

[@zoltanperei4789]

In Alien 3 there was no Wayland. It was another Bishob.

[@marseillesvieux2987]

Alien 3 directors cut is so much better than the theatrical version.

[@Damar158]

I only don't like that version's ending where Ripley just jumps into the molten lead, I preferred the alien queen chestburster trying to escape and Ripley holding onto it.

[@ressljs]

I agree that the director's cut was better, but (get ready to chase me off the internet), I think Alien 3 ties Alien for the best in the series. I like Aliens, but I honestly don't think it's nearly as good as the first and third.

[@GonkThePowerDroid]

Still hopeful. There is a FANTASTIC movie to be made in the "Alien vs Predator" universe

[@nucha2fb]

i did not mind this movie at all, it was a mindless action movie and wasn't completely awful.

[@blaizecunningham6080]

Clearly it would be an alion and not a lilien or lalion like these hacks suggested.

[@zed-up]

4:40 And that will always make me mad.

[@vvtor]

Do AvP Requiem.

[@TheRealRodent]

Prometheus... the AvP remake :D

[@RB-qh7ix]

AVP is GREAT!

[@collossuss10]

Finding plot holes and continuity errors where none exist.

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

I’m gonna miss these when I move. Being homeless is gonna suck. 😞

[@TheSwagSociety]

Homeless? Are you going to be alright?

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

@@TheSwagSociety Honestly? No. Everything is going wrong. No one wants me here, including my kid because his grandma keeps saying shit behind my back, so now he’s convinced I’m a bad person. No one cares about me. No one wants me. No one loves me. So I’m gonna go live under a bridge and hope things work out better. Gotta be better than here. 😢

[@PeacefulJoint]

@@josiahbahuaud2294 maybe rent out a room? Its not lavish but beats under a bridge lol.

[@josiahbahuaud2294]

@@PeacefulJoint Don’t have the money for that. Honestly, I already haven’t eaten in at least a week. I’m going to have to surrender all my animals because I can’t afford to take care of them. Right now, a bridge is my only option. 😢

[@levent-erhan]

@@josiahbahuaud2294 I hope you're doing ok. What part of the country are you at? Today was cold.

[@apollyon9-11]

We have to wear it, it's traditional

[@cannon_obrannon]

I don't think it's supposed to be the Weyland in Alien 3. He's smashed in the head and his ear is hanging off. Pretty sure it's a Borg...

[@MaxFleye]

LOL Jay is such a contrarian.

[@elinicoritale6384]

I'm asking seriously: Is this a fan channel or is it actually managed by the hack frauds?

[@pspolygons]

Fan channel I think.

[@elinicoritale6384]

@@pspolygons Thx!

[@scottmcfadyen293]

When i grow up , i'm going to be a predator just like daddy !

[@KyleNornIreland]

I Loved these Movies have Both of them

[@theangrypenguin3014]

The predators were enslaved by a more advanced insectoid race which the predators overthrew and stole their tech, the temple shot a flare into space to alert the predators something had broken into it and they went there to keep the xenomorphs from escaping

[@SheezyBites]

Klingons where attacked by a space faring civilization in their medieval era, but fought them off with guerilla warfare. I don't think they created their first warp drive, I think they stole it, figures out how to steal more and only got around to figuring out how to make their own after meeting the romulans. Predator doesn't bother with justifying this of course, and in the original movie is better for it... but by movie 3 it's a bit stretched.

[@capam15]

screams in darkhorse fanrage

[@benjones1717]

Alien 3 is good it just suffered from being compared to aliens.

[@Clay3613]

Proof that Disney knows a lot more about franchises than whatever the hell Fox was doing.

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

😆 😅 😂 🤣😆 😅 😂 🤣😆 😅 😂 🤣😆 😅 😂 🤣😆 😅 😂 🤣😆 😅 😂 🤣

[@mrjones29]

Listening to Jay and Rich say the alien and predator characters don't have any backgrounds is laughable. But more than that is hearing Jay say Alien 3 is a better movie than Aliens???

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

Prometheus reused the blue alien species in the ship. That actually also happened in the original as well. So no Mike it wasn't the Zeno morphs' ship. It's like Ridley Scott went back after watching his own movie and wanted to add an explanation to who the blue aliens were, making it convoluted.

[@Shizn0id]

Rich also thinks a species that can survive the cold vacuum of space with no damage would be stuck on an arctic ice island and wouldn't just swim wherever it wanted.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

@@Shizn0id well if it's stuck in ice, there's still oxygen in ice so if the organism is still a live in the ice, there's a possibility it can survive on Earth. Just because an organism doesn't need oxygen to survive doesn't mean introducing oxygen will hurt it. It might have other effects on it though. Now the other way around is a problem. Where your body has been conditioned to needing something to live but is not receiving it will eventually kill you.

[@Shizn0id]

@@AmazingKevinWClark first off you just went on some tangent that has nothing to do with what I said and second you thinking that the cold of earth will do anything to a creature that can survive indefinitely in fucking space, you know the coldest place in the universe? xenomorphs are cold proof, dont need to breath and can swim faster and better than any land animal alive. so again an arctic island is nothing to escape from for them.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

@@Shizn0id wow chill out, I was just contributing to the thought. I neither made an argument for or against what you said. You're mostly correct however there is a possibility that an organism lives on a satellite object close to the sun without an atmosphere. In which case it survives in a vacuum but also with heat and light.

[@Joshbobjovi]

Ridley Scott was writing a script about Creator vs Creation (Man vs AI), and saw that Fox had given Blomkamp the greenlight to make a new Alien movie, which would have retconned Alien 3 and Resurrection to take place 20 years after Aliens. Ripley and Hicks return as the main characters, and he had concept art and a script drawn up. Well, Scott didn't like Blomkamps work, and didn't want the franchise in his hands, so he told Fox he wanted the next alien movie instead. Naturally they pulled it from Blomkamp and gave it to him, the franchise veteran, and he wrote up a script for a prequel to Alien. The original script, Alien: Engineers, actually wasn't that bad for a rough draft. It held true as a prequel, with them landing on LV-426, and it was much more of a horror movie than a sci-fi fantasy with dumbass characters. The problem is that he was still stuck in the mindset of Creator vs Creation, and tried to shoehorn the philosophical David storyline in wherever he could. That's why Prometheus is such a mess, because he wasn't writing it to a part of the Alien universe, but to tell the story he wanted and just have it set in the Alien universe. The more he rewrote it, the worse it got, and eventually we ended up with the trash it became. Horrible characters, nonsensical plot, not even taking place on the same moon Alien was on. It got even worse in Covenant, where he kept trying to tell the David story but also make it an Alien movie, and somehow it seemed super rushed but also so slow, again with dumbass characters. I'll never forgive him for not giving us the opportunity to have a Blomkamp Alien film with Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn returning.

[@Sieban]

I was quite hyped to watch this considering there was an AVP arcade game in the 90s. However, this was no where as interesting as the arcade. Sadly.

[@DeadManSinging1]

There was a comic even earlier than that. It was set in the future and established alot about the Predator race. At the end of the comic, the main character Machinko is accepted by them and leaves with them on their spaceship

[@stempo1]

He's a clone of the original

[@twitchfixer1344]

Uuhm Actually! * presses the bridge of Glasses* When Waylan turns up behind the team in AVP it is really similar to Prometheus. even though Waylan in Prometheus turns up in front of the team in hologram form, yet he is actually behind them in cryo-status. * Smug know it all face *

[@TheEyez187]

Predator weekend warriors funnily would fit. Predator from 2 planned on putting his King Willy trophy head over his fireplace at home. Pred 1's posing for a photo, holding a skull and spine up in triumph, back of the photo you see Big Momma Dutch stalking him! Do you reckon they have fishermen-like banter? I caught this guy, he must have been 400lbs and 7ft. yeah right, where's the skull and spine then. oh you see, I vapourized it with my plasma caster. 20:40 - Called by his wife... Honey can you pick up some eggs, my mother's coming round!! Urgh that loud mawed bag!! screw it!! [taps the countdown initiator]. \/\^ ^^\/ ^^V\ V^/' Just thought, we always assume the predators are male, what if the males are more gremlin sized! :D Any film in either franchise from the C20th is excellent or acceptable. AvP's worth a single watch! As for AvP 2, you've got more chance of seeing a cloaked predator than see what's going on in that; think they left the cap on; In this, no one can see you scream! Predators had an interesting concept. Any other films in those franchises are much like Alien 3, not that there good in any way, but that they were mostly dead on arrival and should be chucked in to a foundry!

[@blinkachu5275]

Hmm, feel like you guys are not giving this movie enough credit. It certainly isn't great, it probably isn't even good, but a lot of things you commented on is explained clearly in the movie that does make sense in this separate universe (since this movie doesn't take place in either Alien or Predator's universe, it's just an AU)

[@jacob4920]

Not gonna lie. "AVP" is actually one of those rare: "So bad that it's good" movies. For every reason mentioned in the video, I just love wasting hours of my life watching this schlock, and don't spend a whole lot of my brain cells pondering over all the varying impossibilities and foolishness of it. I just want to see aliens kill each other in a grudge match barely involving human beings. This movie actually succeeds in doing at least that much.

[@sorryaboutnico]

It has 666 likes, forgive me…

[@mytube650]

Go and sin no more

[@pk13910]

Is RLM Ok with this channel? Seems like someone is cashing in on other people's work.

[@JoeGrizz1y]

Why not just create a typical predator film. It opens with a ship crashing. A predator seems to be slowly hunting a group of people (maybe soldiers). Before you know it, one or two of the survivors are killed and looking eerily killed as someone would be by an alien. The people find the crashed ship and here we get solid evidence of the killers not being the predator, but aliens. We see that a small group of predators has been witnessing this, out of nowhere 3rd party attacking the survivors they were surveillancing. The Predators slowly learn about the aliens during battles and by studying the carcasses. All while the survivors are stuck in the middle. Have the film end as the film does. By a making a predator and survivor take on the remaining hand full off aliens for a climactic final battle. Here the final two will win, but the predator will turn on the human. Once the predator recognizes the fighter as a non threat it will leave with its fallen kind and leave earth. All that’s left behind is a survivor who is alone and defeated by the obstacles they just had to overcome. This way allows the action to feel more like the sequel Aliens film, while the structure of the film feels like a predator story. It blends the two and you get a little bit of both sides. Every side of the conflict losing something, while leaving the predator as the defining winner among the foreign species. Maybe for sequel bate, end the film with the remaining predator analyzing the bodies of its fallen friends. It glosses over a predator with a hole in its mid torso. Black screen. Don’t show a pred-alien rather save it for the next film.

[@jeremyjazwinski6349]

I feel like im not cool enough for these guys ? Any1 else feel sub par ?

[@ressljs]

Mike's ignorance of Alien lore actually has me feeling kind of superior.

[@OvercookedOctopusFeet]

So, no commentary here about the film they're supposed to be commenting on.?!?. Just rambling about the other movies in the franchise. 🤦‍♂

[@SCUMCHRIST888]

The original AvP comic series was great. They could have just adapted that and it would have been awesome

[@probablynotmyname8521]

I think time and budget were the constraining factors, its not a coincidence that it was filmed in the dark.

[@DeadManSinging1]

I agree. I like the ending where the Predators accept her as one of the tribe, and in the later comics, she hunts beside them and is trained to use their equipment

[@brandonspain12345]

The movie was in development since 1991 and the original script titled "The Hunt: Alien vs. Predator" was actually based on the first 4 comics into a movie but it was scrapped while they were developing Alien³ and Sigourney Weaver hated the idea so much, she demanded to the studio that if she was gonna be in Alien³, Ripley would have to die. So thank you AvP.

[@Mushtaco]

I definitely disagree with Jay here with Alien as a franchise. I mean so many cool games and different designs. I get a lot of the movies are not good though.

[@dr.decker3623]

there are 2 good games, AVP Arcade/NeoGeo and Alien Isolation (maybe i can give a pass to ALien3 on Sega too), and 3 good movies,. 1,2 and 3... Everything else has been handled by people that either don't care and only want money, or think they care because they seen a couple comics with alien vs predator on the cover... maybe if Jon Favreau took over this too, then maybe it would be worthy of a franchise. lol

[@dr.decker3623]

I want to see Alien: Pig Next :D

[@Huntron-go1bw]

Bad at her job lady is in fact, simply "too hot" to need dumb things like gloves, a beanie, or a coat while outside at night in the Arctic. Its almost as if she's on a warm movie set and nowhere near the Arctic...........🤔

[@magnuskallas]

You missed a really woke Hollywood point this film makes with the multicultural cast - deep inside, we are all the same flesh and blood, like Predator sees it. Remember the Fruit of the Loom ad back in the 90s?

[@Ricardo-cl3vs]

In fact we're _not_ all the same, not even on the inside. Forensics can determine from a pile of bones what age, sex and skin color the person had that those bones belonged to.

[@magnuskallas]

@@Ricardo-cl3vs I was sarcastic, and ironic. Exactly. Race and gender ARE NOT SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS. It is pinpoint science. Now, I don't want to dwell into dangerous zone of "eugenics" related stuff, but certain conclusions can be made about IQ also.

[@grimkaizer8417]

@@magnuskallas lol whats your @

[@hoshkins]

I liked AVPR better. Neither was great though.

[@magnuskallas]

PS: I also love that how in every darn stupid movie somehow someone always carries a IMI DESERT EAGLE .50. The Matrix we can forgive, otherwise it is pure nonsense. And... might I add, most of the time the trigger is pulled by, you guessed it - by a minute social justice warrior standing 5.4 feet who in real life would fall back to their stupid butt back to... I'm not going to say it here.

[@luugerio2730]

Shitmovie now but 2004

[@SkyStarNova]

Prometheus is a ripoff not only of this but even of the Aliens Apocalypse: The Destroying Angels comic mini series. Both AVP and The Destroying Angels are far superior stories to that trash Prometheus film.