the grenada "refresh " cards also had analog output, at least my 390 did have one.

I mean you can pass an RTX 4090 though a GT 710 because it has a VGA connector.

If you want the lowest monitor latency with gsync/amdsync/freesync/vsync, use highest refresh rate, and limit the fps by 2 fps below the refresh rate. If it's near it or above, you double the latency. If you want the lowest monitor latency without any sync usage, use the highest refresh rate alongside with unlimited fps cap, the higher fps or refresh rate the lower the latency. If you want the lowest latency for input, use bluetooth and/or higher clocks. Also about ULLM, if you use nvidia inspector you can see that it changes the CPU prerenderd frames from 4 (default) to 1. Tried the test, seems 40ms is enough for me, as that's how it's okay to play online games, above that then you start to notice, below it that it's pointless.

Do you have an xbox 360? I'd love to see some games on one of those Dells with the VGA cable.

I use to have CRTs and they do flicker at 60hz. If I were you I'd keep the 512x448 resolution at 120hz to get a rock solid (no flicker) image.

Congrats on landing a job at RTINGS, I hope you are happy there, your monitors reviews on this site gained somewhat legendary status and influenced testing methodology in major way.

guys im going to need some help because my monitor is pixelated and i have no clue what to do anymore the resolution is native and recommended i tried a lot of stuff and nothing is working

Love your videos! so sad that you cant make any videos at the time. i wish you would somehow win a pg27aqdp it would probably blow you away.

The comparison to CRT is quite dramatic. Now, this is an old but very interesting test on see the brightness decay either to white or black. I wonder how a more modern monitor might cope with your tests and as a result compare to CRT phosphor decay.

I’ll be honest here… I feel jealous of people who own CRTs since I want to own one but I can’t because I don’t have the space for one

Got this for $260 CAD including tax

Man, I have to tell you, as a game dev specialized on complex game mechanics, it would be dream came true to team up with a game dev specialized in visuals like you

Still use my 21" IBM CRT with my old 980ti as my main card^^ And a 1070 isn't really faster than a 980ti, but it has more VRAM. And probably uses less energy^^

Watching this on my main monitor, an IBM p275, 1600x1200 @85Hz

cheap card to use is gt710

Wait, can I used AM4 motherboard with d-Sub + ryzen with Vega IGPU to make every GPU work on CRT like it? OH my.... Even some AM5 MB have it.

Ive been using windows 10 480p output over HDMI, and downscaling that signal with a pre-built GBS-C (~100$, much cheaper if you have the skills to make one). I find this is a little more elegant, because the software fiddling is minimal, and all i need to do is send the HDMI out. Only issue is that the GBS-C can have handshake issues with this signal coming from a PC over HDMI. Best solution ive found is to send the signal through an HDMI splitter first to force a more solid handshake to the GBS-C. Is it the best way in the world to do this? No. But it gets me 240p without incurring too much lag, so i love with it

Hoping to see your comeback to monitor reviews. There's a lot of mid price range monitors that don't get reviewed/tested. All the channels are able to review the best OLED displays yet all the 150-250$ have a lot of gaps. This KZbin channel is on the verge from getting so many monitors sent from companies for review. Since you do seem to enjoy monitor reviews and spent a lot of time researching and developing ways to accurately do this. If I were you, I'd shoot a bunch of companies/platforms an email about getting sent monitors for review. With a link to your site, program, tests, and videos. Might not be able to keep most of the monitors sent though. Really praying for this channel's return, maybe one day you'll be able to get into contact with a rep that'll be willing to send out monitors to test. Maybe even unreleased ones to give them feedback. Unrelated topic.... The Dell g2524h is a very interesting monitor. It's a 280hz monitor that with the 1 legit test I've seen. Has 144hz monitor timings (compared to his other 144hz dell monitor review). But even with the overdrive setting at extreme has 0 RGB overshoot. The 240hz setting also has a lower latency than the 280hz. Then I was comparing rting's VG279QM review to yours. Just to see the difference of 10-90% and 0-100% GtGs. After doing that, I noticed the G2524h's timings actually don't even look that bad. When everyone seems to love the VG279QM. But the lack of consistency and having to always look at different persons to compare 2 monitors. I can't trust legitimacy with reviews. All the top old monitor reviewers have moved onto the $600+ displays and honestly rarely go into the nerdy stuff. Anyways gluck on your future endeavors m8

will this work with an consumer CRT TV with VGA to Scart?

Give us at least one OLED review, pleeease!

Ants can live

You can use 2560x224p and 240p @180Hz with Retroarch and custom resolutions set in the driver. 448p looks not good with NES or SNES. The Scanlines are wrong, 2x too much.

Has anybody noticed vignetting on the sides of this monitor? I was hoping since this monitor has a lot of flat panel in the back it would eliminate the vignetting on the sides because I have an older Acer model with a thin back panel and virtually no vignetting with a similar back panel design. I have a new, more expensive Acer that has slight of vignetting, but the rear panel is not thin and larger, which I think is the reason for all this slight vignetting on the sides.

Curious, does the passthrough feature require a motherboard that is sli/crossfire compatible?

Came from Hardware Unboxed. Thanks, really interesting.

Like - this has to be the best review I've ever watched. Holy shait man, good job with the video. I'm not an expert in this stuff, but you definitely hooked me up watching almost the whole video while I came here only for few things. Keep it up, this is some quality content.

How many hours do your monitors have on the usage counter? I have an LG Flatron F900P (the Slot Mask version) with 10k hours on the clock and the colors look quite dull. I can sort of go around this by cranking up the guns to 100% in the OSD, but I don't think this is sustainable. Just curious how a high end Trinitron compares to a mid-end CRT like mine.

Have you tried it with the intel integrated graphics?

Make sure your gpu is stull supported. 🤣 trying a 8500gt for vga with my 2080ti did NOT work. It defaulted to a windows display driver and wouldnt recognize either. Installing the 2080ti driver though got me going. (Because some crts wont work even with adaptors) my HT1626 dell on one adaptor works in TV(component) mode but not in VGA mode. (In tv mode its locked at 60fps)

I modified an old Acer S271HL about 10 years ago to strobe its LED backlight. It's amazing compared to normal LCDs. There's hardly any after-image, just a little at the bottom of the screen when using side-scrolling games, and using a modeline with a longer vblank (use higher clock rate) gives more time for transitions. The mod turned out to just be a firmware change, no extra hardware needed, just RE-ing the ROM some to find where to insert some code. It has a VA panel and was plenty fast with a few-millisecond strobe (comes out fairly dim). I don't think it was a very high-end monitor. It was convenient because the CPU had an interrupt on vblank. There I could just restart the backlight timer with a low PWM frequency, so it just pulsed once per frame. The LED driver already handled pulsing since it used PWM dimming for normal brightness control. To make it easy to enable, I just added strobing to the bottom half of the brightness range, so DDC brightness control from the PC could enable/disable strobing (and set the strobe time, which also affects brightness).

Swapped out my 21" Sony for dual Dell 2001fp (20" IPS) in 2005. I did miss the low latency but with the console gaming taking over most new games were abandoning high framerate AND putting motion blur INTO game deliberately. Quake die-hards and simracers were the only ones sticking with CRT at the time. I went to a single widescreen 32" a few years later. Most games from 2005-2015 were targeting HD instead of low framerate and they were putting blur effects in deliberately (30/60fps targets) ... dark days for pc gaming. I actually think Oculus/Vive release put a fire under ATI/Nvidia to properly focus on low latency. Stereoscopic gaming was the niche that spawned modern VR and the stereo guys were OG blur busters. I still have a stereoscopic kit for CRT in the cupboard.

Been looking for something like this! I upgraded to a new pc this year and was thinking about sticking my old GPU in there (or in an external enclosure) with my shiny new 4070 for exactly this purpose when i eventually get a CRT. Didn't know this was an actual Windows feature 🤔

*Sigh* I found a P1130 in recycling dumpster at a PC repair place (after asking for permission to check what was out there). A year or two later, I ended up dumping the thing to "make more room on my desk", and "not turn my room into a furnace" (I had a three CRT AMD Eyefinity array going). That was just back in 2015 or so. Such. Regret. Back then, I was just enamored with the black levels and near zero input lag of CRTs - I wasn't even using them in a way that allowed for good motion clarity (my FPS never matched my refresh rate). The things I'd do for another one of these... Motion clarity beats everything, IMO, and every time I think about looking into "better" computer monitors, I'm reminded that I have a curved VA monitor I don't bother using at all (wife uses it for WFH sometimes), and that I'd just be angry about the blur in everything I play. CRT and VR headsets, all the way, forever (except when playing/watching with other people - then the DLP projector suffices. Which I bought thinking it'd be clear, too, but I have a double image issue, and I have no idea what to do about that/if anything can be done, or if that's just inherent to DLP/this projector).

Does your 980 Ti have a VGA out or are you using a DVI to VGA adapter? I can't seem to find any 980 Ti with a VGA out.

Huh the thing you said about CCFL is quite a suprise to me. I have NEC monitor from 2006 with CCFL back light and it looks amazing. After i bought new gaming monitor the only difference i see is pixel response time and refresh rate ofc. This NEC monitor has really good colors, i think it can get above 100% sRGB, and its max brightness is 470 nits. I was compering it few times to other monitors and its brightnes is just on another level. But idk, looks like this monitor is just really good for its time :D

Recently mistakenly bought this monitor sadly without seeing this review. May just return to 1080p 144hz and use this a secondary. I noticed in your video the resolution does fill all the way to the very edge of the screen. Is this normal ?

This is a novel feature, but has too many drawbacks. The added latency is a deal breaker on top of all the other downsides, as opposed to simply using an HDMI to VGA adapter.

can u create a program that intercepts mouse inputs and adds latency on one side and u can benchmark yourself igame like in the firingrange of apex? i feel like its so hard to guess latency when u dont have a reference

Is it possible to use Matrox GPU for this? They should have the best RAMDACs available.

This is ridiculously informative. Thanks for the level of research that you have done here which has led to a better metrics to judge monitors

Is there a reason to be using a GPU like the 980 or Titan X when doing the passthrough? Or can you actually get away with something much older and perhaps passively cooled?

I’ve searched and search and your video just came up on my feed. Brilliantly video.

This is the most impressive and very detailed review ever.

I have 3 CRT Monitors... nothing comes close to their Motion Clarity, nothing... but I'm not using them to play anymore, flickering is a problem to me, i guess i got too used to LCDs... I kinda love LCDs too.

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Hey, man, I know it's been a long time, but your videos have been highly influential for me in getting into finding out the major I want to get into. I know you don't upload as often nowadays but I definitely will give the game a try despite me being poor at these types of games nowadays. I do hope you're doing well in whatever ventures you're in now, even if you aren't going to do more monitor reviews due to varying circumstances since I understand it's expensive.

so should i be using the "normal" color temp setting for the color temp monitor settings? Also, how can I calibrate to see better in the dark scenes of, for example, anime? Is default just good enough? Is seems some scenes seem a bit on the darker side than I'd like... Another thing, how can I accurately and correctly calibrate the gamma as you've done in this video with those curves as opposed to what Asus defaults to as you showed?

I have the xg2431 and i think it strobes at 60hz

Do you think you could make an updated version of this video, with a newer gaming test rig with either an RTX 4090 or a RX 7900 XT as the render GPU, and testing out older GPUs to decide which ones to recommend for the VGA/DVI-I output?

Have of your steam reviews are vouching for how good your youtube channel is lol