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@AreOle_photography
@AreOle_photography 9 күн бұрын
Love these type of conditiins, the closeup of the moss and the dog walker where realy nice photos. A nice peaceful vlog
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 9 күн бұрын
thanks for watching and leaving a comment, glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
@luciengrillet
@luciengrillet 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. I’m heading to London at the end of February and I’m now a bit anxious about all those “security” issues…
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 9 күн бұрын
Honestly mate its not that bad just the odd place here and there but if you polite you wont have any major issues at all. Thanks for watching.
@bristolstreetphotography
@bristolstreetphotography 16 күн бұрын
Beautiful work and very informative - top notch, thank you.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 16 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching and leaving a comment !
@andrewhall6105
@andrewhall6105 19 күн бұрын
Hi Lee can I ask which camera bag do you use in this video... and have you done a gear review on what you use ... I would love to watch that. Cheers Andy
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 19 күн бұрын
@@andrewhall6105 Hi mate it's a Shimoda Action X50 bag with a medium insert, fantastic bag, and I have tried many ! I haven't done any gear reviews exactly just the filters I use etc from K&F .
@Khurbanx
@Khurbanx 19 күн бұрын
I went here yesterday - as i was draw to the air-raid shelters , i found one you could get into :) was so cool
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 19 күн бұрын
@@Khurbanx thanks for watching, they certainly are interesting part of our history
@Roam.Outdoors
@Roam.Outdoors 21 күн бұрын
Awesome video mate! Really enjoyed it. Some stunning photos at the end. New sub from us👍🏻
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 20 күн бұрын
Thank you appreciate you watching and leaving a comment and for the sub ! I don't get out on a regular basis but I do enjoy the process of making a video of my time out with the camera
@AndrewHamiltonPhotography
@AndrewHamiltonPhotography 22 күн бұрын
Always good to explore a new area Lee with or without the mist and good to challenge oneself with both the macro shots and the wider images. The dog walker and the inclusion of a human element worked really well. I managed to get out on the Friday and hopefully managed to bag a couple of good ones but the SD card still in the camera 😂 All the best for the New Year to you and the family !
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@AndrewHamiltonPhotography thanks mate look forward to seeing what you got, happy new year to you and the family too mate 👍
@RalphGoldsmith
@RalphGoldsmith 22 күн бұрын
Some lovely atmospheric feeling images in this one, Nice work
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@RalphGoldsmith thanks Ralph, happy new year to you
@gwpee1727
@gwpee1727 22 күн бұрын
Nearby is Pillars Wood, again owned by MOD, but has no restrictions.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 21 күн бұрын
@@gwpee1727 ah ok one to look up for future, thank you
@sanclewphotographic
@sanclewphotographic 22 күн бұрын
Morning Lee, I really liked the last Image you took not only a nice composition but nice light on the trees, I must admit I find woodland photography very difficult at times, but I suppose that's the whole idea to seek out an Image and get your brain working and although it wasn't an obvious image but you turned it into one, best wishes for 2025, regards, Colin.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@sanclewphotographic thanks mate , yes woodland is a difficult genre but I find it especially difficult in kent , our woodlands are not great for that. No ancient oak woodlands or large areas of silver birch etc , but it all good practice I guess. Thanks for watching and happy new year to you too mate 👍
@AndrewWaltonPhotography
@AndrewWaltonPhotography 22 күн бұрын
I did lichen the lichen image, Lee! Also the dog walkers on the S curve.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@AndrewWaltonPhotography thanks Andrew I did refrain from the whole lycen subscribe thing but it was so tempting lol, happy new year to you mate
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography 22 күн бұрын
Nice video and photos towards the end of the video 🙂👍
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@stigfloberghagenphotography thank you mate, nearly didn't put it out but I think it just shows you don't always get great images everytime you go out. Still good to get out and practice practice practice! Hope your well mate.
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 22 күн бұрын
Think we need to talk about your stirring technique, everyone know you have to stir clockwise 😂 The wooden accommodation you came across was pretty cool. I liked the branch and the one with the guy and his dogs shots. Nice and calming 👍
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 22 күн бұрын
@@paulwbakerphotography lol I'm anti most things i guess lol. There were several of those outbuildings, I was talking to a local who said they were air raid shelters, all that remains of the original wooden accommodation is the concrete posts they sat on. The military still use the area for training, signs everywhere warning you of loud bangs and smoke grenades etc being used. Think the military are still on there break at moment but they have been increasing their training recently apparently. Not the best images today but was a nice walk in a new area so cant grumble. Hope your well mate.
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 22 күн бұрын
@ all OK thanks. I’ve not been out for about two weeks but I will be out again soon hopefully. You did OK, it’s all about getting out
@justinkalaker8427
@justinkalaker8427 23 күн бұрын
Wow what is all of this security all about ? 🤦🏻 It’s more like an SAS mission in London than a photography session.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 23 күн бұрын
@@justinkalaker8427 lol its OK if you know what your rights are and your polite and not confrontational , you can normally get the shot your after !
@justinkalaker8427
@justinkalaker8427 23 күн бұрын
I’m really enjoying your vlogs Lee , love a bit of sunrise photography & editing & I didn’t know about the Alt ~ black & white so that’s a great tip. I’ve given you a follow on instagram.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad you find some it helpful. Thanks for the follow , appreciate it thanks !
@iaincphotography6051
@iaincphotography6051 Ай бұрын
Good to see you up on the Moor, I have been up there a couple of times, stop off for a couple of nights in Moretonhampstead. Highland Cattle, we had one run down, ran across the road, it stood on a grassy knoll whilst we took some shots, then went back up the hill, bloody hilarious. Liking your shots, done with feeling. I tried to leave a message on your Website, it wouldn't let me LOL. Good to look at, you're a photographer not a genre, wonderful. Keep Shooting.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@iaincphotography6051 thanks mate appreciate that, website is not the best, it was something I knocked up in wordpress as I was fed up of paying ever increasing Squarespace prices !
@iaincphotography6051
@iaincphotography6051 Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Yes I have heard it is not cheap, I have used Zenfolio for years and I don't do any direct selling off the site, cost me £38 last year.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@iaincphotography6051 thats not a bad price at all , i was paying nearer £200 a year for squarespace which for a hobbyist is pricey
@iaincphotography6051
@iaincphotography6051 Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Ouch!
@iaincphotography6051
@iaincphotography6051 Ай бұрын
The pointy mountain you were photographing is called Stob Dearg (stop jerrack) The Buchaille Etive Mor consists of two mountains Stob Dearg & Stob Na Broige. If you go back up there make the effort to go down Glen Etive and be rewarded. If you cross the Glen Coe road and walk up about 1000ft on the path called Jacobs ladder, then the views of the Buachaille Etive Mor and the Buchaille Etive Beag are stunning. Nice shots by the way. Keep shooting.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info , was my first time to Scotland and was not really a photography trip but had to take the opportunity to get some images while i was there, certainly is a stunning area and hope to return and explore further one day. Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment, thanks mate
@iaincphotography6051
@iaincphotography6051 Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling No problem, I hope you get back up there it's an amazing place. The only trouble with Summer are the flying teeth, you need a midge net and "Skin so Soft by Avon"
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@iaincphotography6051 I took some smidge with us but wasn't needed at end of October but yes I believe they can be a nightmare!
@pbc0174
@pbc0174 Ай бұрын
I have been meaning to get back to Loch Awe for years. This place holds a special place in my heart.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
i can see why its a fantastic location, thanks for watching
@AndrewWaltonPhotography
@AndrewWaltonPhotography Ай бұрын
Superb photos Lee. Great location too. I don't understand the 'don't shoot honeypot locations' instructions. For the majority of us it may be the only time we may visit a location so why not capture the image, if only for ourselves to remember the visit. I guess it's more for pro landscape photographers who have already bagged those shots.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@AndrewWaltonPhotography thanks mate, yes I never understood it either, I get take that shot and try and find something else , still who says you can't it's only some people's opinion, that doesn't make them right , I'll shoot a location for me , it's always different, conditions, light etc etc. Wish I had more time to explore that area but it was not a dedicated photography trip so I wasn't alone 😉
@RalphGoldsmith
@RalphGoldsmith Ай бұрын
Lovely looking location, like you say, why not? Some beautiful images
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@RalphGoldsmith thanks Ralph , it's an area I would love to have explored more just didn't have the time . Thanks for watching 👀
@MichaelCantwell
@MichaelCantwell Ай бұрын
good luck reaching 1000 subs you deserve it.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@MichaelCantwell thank you , i make videos as and when I can so the algorithm doesn't like me. I enjoy doing the videos so I'll keep doing them for me. The fact others psych st all still amazes me lol. Thanks again.
@MichaelCantwell
@MichaelCantwell Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Keep up the good work. I'm the same way. When I feel like making a video, I do. However, you always make good ones. I've been a follower almost since you began making videos.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@MichaelCantwell thanks for following along, really appreciate it . At work at moment but will have to check out your channel when I get back !
@LetsClickPhotography
@LetsClickPhotography Ай бұрын
Perhaps I don't pay enough attention but I'm not overly familiar with this location at all. I've probably seen a couple images over the years without taking note, not today! Within about 2 minutes of the video starting, I'm planning my route on Google Maps haha - just a short 6.5 hour drive - probably not one for today! But goes to show that locations like this are always worth shooting, there's always a fresh set of eyeballs ready to see it for the first time. Fantastic images mate, a few of the haul at the end probably worthy of a vlog of their own too. I got to the end of the video and was left wanting more, always the sign of a really great watch. Nice one Lee.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@LetsClickPhotography thanks Dave it is a stunning area, that whole road towards Glencoe has lots of honeypot locations , I could of spent a week there and not scratched the surface. Appreciate the comments mate thank you .
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography Ай бұрын
Great shots mate and an enjoyable video as always. Hope you have a great time in Scotland. Looking forward to the next one.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@paulwbakerphotography thanks for watching mate, think that was the last of the Scotland trip, only just managed to coble that one together. Need another holiday now , or a photographic trip at least !
@paulcookphotography
@paulcookphotography Ай бұрын
That was a fantastic watch Lee! Such an iconic location and some really fantastic images you got! It seems like it has been filmed and photographed so many times it's hard to come up with something original - but you did it with the drone footage. I've always wondered what the surrounding area looked like but I've never seen it in other videos, but you captured it with the drone. And some lovely clouds you had behind the mountain as well. Great stuff pal, great take on an iconic location!
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@paulcookphotography Thank you mate, i was actually a bit of a rushed location and no real thought about a vlog, I just managed to coble something together with the bits of footage I did get. I would of loved to really explore that area, far more photographic opportunities than I had time to show, it's just such a vast area , the scale is hard to get across. The drone was kept intensionally low as the area is used by the military for low level flying etc. Had three jets scream through there while we were there. Glad you enjoyed it, appreciate it mate 👍
@paulcookphotography
@paulcookphotography Ай бұрын
@LeePelling I didn't know that about the fighter jets. I know about the Mach Loop in Wales but had never heard anyone say that about this location. Interesting!
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@paulcookphotography not sure how regularly it's used but certainly was that day , herd some others talking about military exercises after the three we watched scream through , at pretty low level . Glad I never had the drone above about 10 ft or so really .
@sanclewphotographic
@sanclewphotographic Ай бұрын
Been many times but you never get tired of the location and your Images were superb, can I just ask I no you use K & F gear but in this Video it looked like you were using a Benro Head and you were using it with your L Bracket can you do this without attaching another plate to the bottom of the L Bracket, Best Wishes, Colin. ( wish I was there).
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@sanclewphotographic thanks mate , the l bracket is from three legged thing and has a built in arca swiss plate at the bottom and the whole side of the l.bracket is arca awis compatible www.wexphotovideo.com/3legged-thing-ellie-with-peak-design-capture-base-copper-1721636/?cpgnid=17870678074&adext=&account=853-353-2386&campaign=&group=&mkwid=_dm&pcrid=&kword=&match=&plid=&pgrid=&ptaid=&si=&gad_source=1
@IzzyAbuleelaPhotography
@IzzyAbuleelaPhotography Ай бұрын
A great vlog and wonderful images, glad to see the horrendous fencing has been taken down, they played havoc with my compositions the last time I was in the uk. Keep em coming 🙏🙏🙏
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 20 күн бұрын
im sorry mate only just seen this comment for some reason. Sadly the fence is still there ,its kind of hidden in some of the distant images and the closer ones i removed in post, still a fantastic location, again apologies for such a late response
@PixeltreeMedia
@PixeltreeMedia Ай бұрын
Definitely on the list to call by next time we're up that way Lee !! Beautiful location and lovely images and I wouldn't say less than ideal lighting at all !!
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew , its a great spot and im sure there are plenty more photographic opportunities if only i had time to fully explore the area, its so vast , but lovely
@PixeltreeMedia
@PixeltreeMedia Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Just realised I was logged in under my work account !! Definitely some to be printed and framed :)
@DanielBennettphotographyuk
@DanielBennettphotographyuk Ай бұрын
Beautiful images mate l, a location I'm yet to visit to be honest. Your SS was perfect for the flow of the water 👌
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@DanielBennettphotographyuk Thank you mate, could of spent all day exploring there , maybe one day I'll get back !
@DanielBennettphotographyuk
@DanielBennettphotographyuk Ай бұрын
@LeePelling hopefully you do mate 👍
@joebloggs4369
@joebloggs4369 Ай бұрын
No Black Rock Cottage? real nice shots, though.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@joebloggs4369 sadly not, this was not a dedicated photography trip , just took the opportunity to get some images while we were there. Thanks for watching 👀 😀
@davepeckphotography
@davepeckphotography Ай бұрын
Off to Londonium tomorrow mate to try and get the power station with the railway tracks in the front. Erbury Bridge is the one I need isn't it?
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Yes mate it is, there is a entrance to Network Rail depot where you can stand at the top of the road and get a clear shot. Look forward to seeing your results !!
@lightsandtones
@lightsandtones Ай бұрын
Great video Lee. Finally they removed that ugly fence. I was there this January and the previous year too. I got gorgeous lights both occasions, but the fence.....
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@lightsandtones thanks mate, sadly the fence is still there ! Think I removed it from one image but still there in the others.
@lightsandtones
@lightsandtones Ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Oh, no. I thought it had finally gone. Thanks for the feedback.
@Andrew.J.R.Simpson
@Andrew.J.R.Simpson Ай бұрын
A secret! LOL
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Really should not let AI title the video , WORST kept secret maybe
@AndrewWaltonPhotography
@AndrewWaltonPhotography Ай бұрын
Great stuff, Lee. Despite not hitting the castle, you captured some fantastic light in those images, it really enhanced the Autumnal feel. Great video.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew , certainly is a lovely location , sadly no reflections but still a great place.
@johnturnerphotography
@johnturnerphotography Ай бұрын
Another great vlog and superb images Lee this was a very enjoyable vlog 👍👌
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@johnturnerphotography thanks mate glad you enjoyed it, appreciate you watching and commenting 👍
@garrysugdenphotography
@garrysugdenphotography Ай бұрын
Great video Lee. Always find I get my best images from down by those reed beds. Lovely place and images.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
@@garrysugdenphotography thanks Garry, was hoping for some reflections but the conditions weren't having it lol !
@thevalleywalker
@thevalleywalker Ай бұрын
I rememeber seeing Gavin Hardcastle photographing this place.. I think you deffo had better conditions. Lovely light on the opening image Lee. As I was watching your b roll with the tree hanging to the side I thought that would make a great pano and then I hear you say pano... but sadly no tree, still great shot. All still a great set of images. atb Alan
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, its a great location, was hoping for some reflections but the conditions were not playing ball. Still a lovely little spot, even a highland cow in a adjacent field the boss was happy to go see. Looking back at my own videos i sometimes see images i wish i noticed at the time , thanks for watching !
@RalphGoldsmith
@RalphGoldsmith Ай бұрын
Some lovely atmospheric images in this one, Nice job
@LeePelling
@LeePelling Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, sadly the Loch was to rippled for any good reflection shots but still a great location
@stigfloberghagenphotography
@stigfloberghagenphotography 2 ай бұрын
Great video and photos 👍🙂
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate you watching and leaving a comment, thanks very much !
@AndrewHamiltonPhotography
@AndrewHamiltonPhotography 2 ай бұрын
A wee grand spot Lee and yet just one more example of how photogenic Scotland is. Already planning our next trip up north. Great drone footage and images and some lovely light conditions. 06:25 and 07:40 stood out altho it was a good bag all round that day. Take care
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Andrew, i agree that Scotland is just full of photographic potential , would love to just go on a pure photography trip and not have to worry about time or getting back for work etc, sadly i am just to far away to get there regularly , but i hope to return one day. Thanks for watching looking forward to seeing some of your videos from the area, take care mate !
@podgysnapper5830
@podgysnapper5830 2 ай бұрын
Nice one Lee Its somewhere I would love to visit. Nice bit of drone flying as well.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@podgysnapper5830 thanks mate , didn't really get the light i was hoping for but definitely worth a visit if your able to.
@kentfaithwendyzeng
@kentfaithwendyzeng 2 ай бұрын
Great video! It's always a pleasure to see you revisiting familiar spots and capturing the beauty of Perry Woods. The new RF wide-angle lens seems to be a fantastic addition to your kit, and your detailed explanation of the shots, especially with the use of the black mist filter, was really insightful. The KNF travel tripod looks like a handy tool for vlogging, and I appreciate your honest review of its stability and features. Looking forward to more of your woodland adventures and photography tips. Keep up the great work!
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
Hi Wendy thanks for watching, i love the K&F tripod for my vlogging set up its small, compact and lightweight makes it a ideal addition to carry on any photography trip , as i have done since getting it. Pairs really well with the pocket 3 . The black mist filter is a nice addition to the filter kit and works well, i found it works at it best when you have a stronger light source , such as car headlights , city lights waterfalls etc all.
@kentfaithwendyzeng
@kentfaithwendyzeng 2 ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Thanks for the update! I'm really happy to hear that you're loving the K&F tripod for your vlogging-it sounds super handy for your trips. The black mist filter sounds like a cool addition too, especially with those dramatic light sources. Can't wait to see some of the shots you capture with it! Keep having fun out there.
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 2 ай бұрын
You need a drone! Image what you could have captured. Enjoyable mate, how was Colin’s images?
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, i do have a drone, i have the original Mavic Air but dont use it as often as i should ! Colin does manly wildlife stuff, really good wildlife stuff but doesn't have a social media profile really other than his personal facebook page. Took the drone to Scotland and flew it there on occasions , a couple of clips in the latest vlogs. Thanks for watching, hope you are fully recovered !
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 2 ай бұрын
@ all good mate. Thanks
@eyeintheskydrone4k
@eyeintheskydrone4k 2 ай бұрын
It's an Amazing place to film. Youve captured it brilliantly. Add me as a subscriber
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment, really appreciate it
@jamespirie2078
@jamespirie2078 2 ай бұрын
I drive that road every day going to work
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@jamespirie2078 it's a lovely road, however we came back towards Loch Lomond around 17:00 to 18:00 and the traffic was like central London bumper to bumper , is it like that every weekday ?
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 2 ай бұрын
What a great location, that must have been some drive. Beautiful images, great stuff.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@paulwbakerphotography Thanks Paul , it was probably 40 min drive or so from where we were staying but about a 9 hour drive from home ! Nice little fall worth the stop off, thanks for watching mate 👍
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 2 ай бұрын
@@LeePelling I watch most, always enjoyable. Keep safe
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@paulwbakerphotography thank you, I do appreciate it, genuinely. Sadly back at work trying to pay for the next break away lol take care mate.
@paulwbakerphotography
@paulwbakerphotography 2 ай бұрын
@ I know that feeling.
@johnturnerphotography
@johnturnerphotography 2 ай бұрын
Great vlog superb images from this beautiful area of Scotland 👌👍
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@johnturnerphotography thanks John, just a little stop off on the way up the A82 .
@RalphGoldsmith
@RalphGoldsmith 2 ай бұрын
Lovely waterfall and some great images. I always think a slightly long exposure (max 1 second) looks good to give a sense of movement while keeping texture
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@RalphGoldsmith thanks mate 👍
@garrysugdenphotography
@garrysugdenphotography 2 ай бұрын
The longer exposure for me Lee. As long there is some texture retained. That's the sweet spot 👍
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@garrysugdenphotography thanks mate 👍 I am wishing I opened the aperture a little more and got a slightly faster shutter speed, oh well just have ro go back 😀
@garrysugdenphotography
@garrysugdenphotography 2 ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Don't you just hate the hardship of having to go back to Scotland 🙂.... I've just got back.... and back again at the end of the month.🙂
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@garrysugdenphotography Nice, sadly for me its a 9 to 10 hour journey to Glencoe :-( not something i can do regularly , sadly .
@garrysugdenphotography
@garrysugdenphotography 2 ай бұрын
@@LeePelling Its a good 6 hours for myself so not up there too often.
@AndrewWaltonPhotography
@AndrewWaltonPhotography 2 ай бұрын
Nice spot to photograph Lee, worth stopping off for. You captured some great Autumn colours.
@LeePelling
@LeePelling 2 ай бұрын
@@AndrewWaltonPhotography thanks Andrew , got there reasonably early so plenty of space in the tiny car park but worth the stop . Lovey colours . Thanks for watching 👀