ABORTION DEBATE - Lila Rose Best Moments On Whatever Podcast vs Destiny

[@NinjaDog9123]

When Destiny justified the Nazis killing children my jaw dropped

[@RollOutRory]

​@@AT-mu6ovstay mad baby killer

[@Yourordinaryuser_]

@@AT-mu6ov Okay? Lila and the original poster didn't even make a religious argument, so.

[@AT-mu6ov]

@@Yourordinaryuser_their meta-ethics are religious

[@Yourordinaryuser_]

@@AT-mu6ov Also, only two versions of the Bible translated the original passage that way, which are the NIV and NRSV. All of the other versions have this passage as talking about her thigh or just stomach, but not miscarriage. So, this passage actually doesn't automatically justify abortion.

[@johngodsey5327]

@@AT-mu6ov 1. No numbers doesn’t legitimize abortion. It didn’t call for the killing of an unborn child for a wife having committed adultery. The niv translates it badly but in the Hebrew and Aramaic, it reads differently. 2. It doesn’t say Jesus didn’t come to change the law. It says “i did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it” He wasn’t “doing away” with the law, he came to fulfill the law on behalf on those who would believe. So that people wouldn’t have to “keep the law” in order to be declared right before God. Your handling and twisting of scripture is synonymous with Satan twisting scripture to temp Jesus God hates that btw

[@Lavendermama2]

Do you know what drove me away from the pro choice side and towards the pro life side? Listening to people like Destiny defend this point of view. It makes no sense, has no consistency, and ultimately is based on a degree of ableism.

[@jamiecone9151]

Welcome, You're on the right side

[@J_Trask]

The pro-abortion argument ultimately rationalizes paying for a mistake at the cost of a human life. Nobody wants to feel bad for getting an abortion, so they’ll come up with language that removes any trace of humanity from an unborn baby, extricating themselves from guilt. Because why would you feel bad about getting an abortion if you really believe it is just a clump of cells? Destiny is a far cry from a moral rock, with the lifestyle he chooses to live. It still weirds me out how invested simps get with the pro-abortion crowd. Pro-abortion people call pro-lifers idiots. I’d rather be the idiot that believes children should be born, and not the genius that thinks killing babies is a good thing.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

None of that actually contend with any part of the argument.. if you feel it’s inconsistent.. which part exactly? The rest is just ad hominem attacks. You need to be able to articulate why the argument fails and then mount your counter response. Which you haven’t done.

[@ThePthiiflf]

What is inconsistent in his position?

[@mrsW-]

​@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lpthe argument fails because Destinys entire position relies on his philosophical concept of personhood. History shows us that those arguing personhood are supremacists attempting to dehumanize those they want to oppress and or kill. Unlike abortion, life is an actual right. It's a self evident and inalienable right bestowed on those created equally as defines in the DOI and protected in the 14th amendment. It's not a right dependant on some random blue haired leftists philosophical beliefs.

[@Val.Kyrie.]

"I have a right to live in a house but not a 3 year old" Uh say what.

[@user936]

Suddenly the hamster in my asshole doesn't seem as bad.

[@dejanfun3251]

He's saying if you can afford it and maintain.... it's your right to live in one but, because a 3 year old cannot do that unless he's bruce wayne and his parents died a bit earlier in his life then.....it has no right? 😂 Literal dumbass, this is what happens when people just stay in one circle with people that have one view, you're telling me that your opinion about what is a good thing to do and if a person's opinion differs from yours, he is an enemy. So, instead of understanding what they are saying and seeing where they come from he just acts like a child to win some point he has made for himself in his head... Destiny was just showing off to us how he can shit from his mouth i think. 😂

[@Val.Kyrie.]

@ I can see why someone with a Kamala level of word salad would agree with an idiot.

[@XSweetNSaucyX]

You're abilities do not define your rights. I'm disabled, I cannot sustain my own home, I still have a right to live in a home because I'm a human being. ❤ Human Rights 💯 at conception!

[@dejanfun3251]

@XSweetNSaucyX you could still do it, sweetie, you just gotta look for the way to do it, there is a way for every want, there's just some roads we should never go down. 😘❤️

[@jordanmattievisuals]

Destiny's "performance" in this debate is one of the greatest embarrassments I have ever watched. Simply painful.

[@eyesofascension8678]

Yeah his ability to make up absurd hypotheticals to counter the points being made is on a level of stupidity i didn't even know existed.

[@unknownunknown7984]

No, all the arguments that he presented were based in logic and consistent throughout. You also seem to ignore the fact that Lila and Kristen couldn’t engage with hypotheticals, constantly interrupted Destiny, wasn’t listening to him and were Bad Faith throughout. I honestly believe you haven’t watched the full debate, if you have. You are so clearly biased it’s insane.

[@unknownunknown7984]

@@eyesofascension8678That’s what hypotheticals are. They need to be “absurd” to test the bounds of your argument. If you don’t understand that, you are just as retarded as Kristen and Lila.

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

@@unknownunknown7984 If you honestly believe hypothetical situations are supposed to be absurd you have proven yet again, you are a f-ing moron. Why are all of Destiny’s fanboys so f-ing stupid and retarded? Stop projecting your own retardation onto others you worthless, steaming pos.

[@roscowbrown3937]

You gotta love when people say that that somebody’s arguments are stupid or embarrassing with no justification for why

[@jhnxavier]

Pro abortion advocates can neither prove why _their_ arbitrary assignment of “personhood” is valid, nor can they prove why arbitrary assignment of personhood is conditional for human rights protection...

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

It’s not a random assignment of personhood and the validation behind consciousness is that the fundamental aspect of a human that we value and that makes the life worth protecting and preserving IS the capacity to deploy a conscious experience. For instance, you can lose or replace almost ANY part of you human body. Any organ, any limb Andy part but so long as you retain an ability to deploy a conscious experience you remain a life worth preserving. Now on the contrary, you can keep fully intact EVERY other part of the human body but if you no longer have the ability to deploy a conscious experience… you’re no longer a life worth preserving because the critical thing that made you, ‘you’… is forever gone and so we pull the plug. Now to tackle your statement about why do we have to select a point to assign personhood… because we just do. Even if you assign it at conception you need a rational for it.

[@Jigglywhiteboy7156]

​@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lpWe are all made to represent God no matter the stage of our life. It is wrong to end a life no matter its stage.

[@ThePthiiflf]

@@Jigglywhiteboy7156Gods not real so

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

@@Jigglywhiteboy7156 If you have to appeal to god at any point in the debate you’ve lost. Appealing to god is a logical fallacy , it’s not proof of anything beyond your personal opinion.

[@carissaexplainsitall8481]

That’s why they get so angry

[@justynanowak8155]

The way he so casually said “cutting it up and sucking it out” made me just about throw up. Disgusting and more importantly sad. Breaks my heart that people can do this to their precious babies

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

Right in the trash bin 🗑️

[@laurenmungaray3912]

Stf* if a woman doesn't want to have a baby then it's fine. The world would be over-populated if nobody got abortions, it's already a problem in some countries.

[@trentjacobs3957]

​@@user-zz9uo4jh7wThis is why many individuals object to being shown pictures of the results of abortion, because the reality of what they're supporting is in direct opposition to what they've been told. They think its some benign medical procedure, yet anyone familiar with what takes place knows how absolutely gruesome and grotesque such depraved acts of barbarity truly are.

[@trentjacobs3957]

@@S-tr4gd It absolutely is disgusting, unbelievably disgusting, grotesque even. And even then it's still nowhere near as horrific and barbaric to hear a so-called prochoice doctor explaining precisely what they're perpetrating. It's not just wrong, it's not just disgusting, it's pure unadulterated evil.

[@yessir6325]

first time using the internet? LMFAO jesus christ learn what blunt humour is lmao

[@michaelwoodall7922]

Destiny's entire argument is based on how fast he can talk.

[@Elitest2]

Idiot

[@alyssawalker1900]

Eh Lila does that too

[@jeajoirs4010]

Anyone who mentions how someone else is talking fast as a point against them is probably a bit slow. only slow people would think to correlate talking fast to perceived intelligence

[@alyssawalker1900]

@@jeajoirs4010 yessssss!

[@SoN_oF_oDiN76]

And how loudly he can interrupt and talk over.

[@adamsmith-wi3qg]

The first "pushback" about passive killing is insane 😅 let's gently lower him into the Atlantic 50 miles offshore and fly away and "see what happens" like come on man Edit: made it 5 more minutes in, this dude is either the greatest troll of all time, or he's very stupid or very evil

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

He’s a sociopath

[@spokenme08]

He's a little bit of both.He enjoys stirring people up and trolling but also has some terrible takes. Out of his ilk he's one of the more tolerable ones...

[@TheUnconventionalMan]

Both!

[@alexharper7645]

That’s just how liberals argue. They give you the most extreme examples and act like it’s the norm.

[@Me-hf4ii]

My understanding is that he was prolife. Then he had a son. Things didn’t work out with the mother. And has since expressed that he wishes he deleted his son in utero… if this is true, then he is all of the above: a troll, stupid, and evil.

[@traviselrod7803]

Lila is quite simply the best defender of pro life positions in the country.

[@Firstwastheword]

I would say worldwide

[@BustasGirl1]

you support euthanasia? You support the death penalty against terrorists etc.. ?

[@traviselrod7803]

@@BustasGirl1 I’ll have a discussion with you on those topics if you agree the unborn should not be killed.

[@MurphGOE]

That’s what tends to happen when your views are aligned with God.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@BustasGirl1 You learned your debate style directly from Destiny didn't you lol. Misdirect with what you call 'analogies' that aren't actually analogous to the claim at all. Infantile.

[@michaiahs]

This man has hardened his heart against truth.. there is no point in debating people like this.

[@user-ks3qr5fk6m]

God can reach the people who are farthest away from him :)

[@jackjeffery1536]

One day they will answer to God The Creator and Judge. Hell is burning in judgement for eternity where the worm does not die with weeping and the gnashing of teeth, Jesus Christ paid the price for everyone in the human race paid a sin debt they owed, however not all will place saving faith in His once for All redemptive work on the cross.

[@jackjeffery1536]

@@user-ks3qr5fk6m God can, people have the gift of free will from God, Salvation in Jesus Christ is a choice, not all choose it. Those in Hell burning eternally will realize it was their decision to reject the redemptive work of Jesus Christ on the cross that put them there, their very own individual, personal decision to reject good and embrace evil.

[@yessir6325]

his heart is less hard than these dumb womens brains lmfao

[@Seedavis397]

Agreed but this video will reach thousands of people that have never heard pro life arguments and hopefully will change minds and save lives. I pray Destiny will have a change of heart. People need to see the debate either way… ultimately it comes down to peoples worldview.

[@Deut6.8]

If you drive a knife into the heart of a person you aren't killing them you're just allowing blood to escape from the chest of this person.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

If you come across a 5 year old child being attacked by a pack of wild dogs, that's on the dogs man. Just let it happen.

[@Deut6.8]

@@TheRomanticsWB you kind of get it. You didn't ignore the suffering of a child, you just continued to walk.

[@jeajoirs4010]

@@Deut6.8 You're killing them because their brain is supported by the blood being pumped to it.

[@peterwis8240]

there is a BIG difference between driving a knife into some ones heart which is required to pump blood so damaging a heart is the most dangerous place to " drive a knife into"

[@angelsky6869]

Lol right. The analogies they use to justify killing babies.

[@rosecoloredgirl5349]

Listening to this as my 19 week baby kicks in my womb

[@truthfulpurpose]

Blessed

[@kerrieonmywaywardson]

Congratulations! I’m 10 weeks and long for the day to feel my little one ❤

[@rosecoloredgirl5349]

@@kerrieonmywaywardson it’ll be soon! Definitely the best part of pregnancy. My first two babies I couldn’t feel until around 20 weeks, but I felt this little one around 15 weeks :) Congratulations on your sweet baby!

[@one-seventeen.rev310]

​@rosecoloredgirl5349 i miss those kicks ❤ you guys are making me want another bebe 😅 I dont understand how someone can feel those kicks and say theyre not conscious and end up disconnecting from reality 😕

[@Becca_Lynn]

God bless you ❤

[@chukwudinosike8944]

Lila, you were so patient, well mannered and articulate in the debate. You points were excellent and unmatched. May the Lord bless you, for the work you are doing.

[@itsame9780]

I actually feel like she didn't allow him to talk at all. She kept talking over him and he could rarely get out his point of view. I agree with everything she says but like let him talk.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@itsame9780 With Destiny involved, every debate feels that way because Destiny is so hyperactive in the debate. He won't allow people to set up their premises without interrupting them and then he talks 100 miles an hour to dispute them in the middle of their set up. Once he sets that precedent, every time they actually start to make a point that shows his inconsistency, he knows it and he interrupts LOUDLY and goes nuts for 35 seconds or so, so that you can't hear them. I think confirmation bias is making you believe that they interrupted him more than he interrupted them. Destiny cannot allow himself to 'lose' a debate so he will talk over you constantly if need be.

[@jeajoirs4010]

@@TheRomanticsWB Someone literally ran the debate through an algorithm and had it count up the number of interruptions. To no surprise the ladies both individually cut him off more than he did them. Combined they cut him off over twice as much as he did them.

[@patrickjennings431]

Both kristen and lila are the G.O.A.T

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

Lisa > Kristen. This debate would have been significantly better absent Kristen.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

They got smoked.

[@mrsW-]

​@@JohnDoe-dr9ffLila* And I agree. Kristen is better suited for street ministry.

[@mrsW-]

​@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lpum, no, they didn't.

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

@@mrsW- She’s a good public speaker, but she is not very good at debating.

[@Augnatius]

“Is a one year old with less consciousness less of a person” Destiny: “they might be” I almost spat out my water, moral relativism will be the death of our society and is already cause the death of millions of innocent lives

[@Becca_Lynn]

That was so wild

[@cmb2438]

This dude has watched one too many purge series.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

Destiny doesn't believe in any objective morality... but he's not a Nihilist... it's an untenable position he has to try and keep to make any of his own arguments consistent. He's never been successful in this attempt (which allows him to be downright evil and justify it) but his 14 year old fan base thinks it's great so.

[@jackjeffery1536]

Yes the Nazis believed in a final solution for those that they deemed unwanted, History should be learned from and life should not be de valued. That Nazi history should never be repeated.

[@NoahMoorman]

@@TheRomanticsWB He is a Nihilist he's just scared of saying it because it upsets the people close to him. (And that he has a hard time saying his son and wife don't matter, He would have to as a Nihilist)

[@justynanowak8155]

Also as someone who has worked with special needs individuals, and I’m taking about severely disabled (wear diapers, need to be fed, need to be dressed, showered etc.) they smile and laugh more than I ever have in my whole life. It would be wrong to kill them and they definitely have the desire to live. Such a gross argument

[@DriveInFreak]

I see a lot of them on here making lame excuses for the government forcing people to give birth against their will.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

It would be wrong to kill them because they have the capacity to deploy a conscious experience .. a fetus does not. See how you haven’t actually tackled any part of the argument.

[@mrsW-]

​@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lpyour philosophical concept of personhood is irrelevant. It's wrong to kill another human being at any stage of their life because humans have human rights.

[@matteocaso2343]

​@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp I assume you are a ferocious defender of abortion bans when brain activity begins. Also this criteria is ad hoc nonsense.

[@DriveInFreak]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp LMAO What the fuck?!

[@gustavoe4959]

It’s good to be pro-life ✝️

[@DriveInFreak]

You're not pro life, you are anti-freedom, anti-women, anti-American, and pro-forced brith.

[@xanjey17]

❤️🙏🏽

[@DriveInFreak]

​@@xanjey17 I see that you have reverted back to cave drawings level of communications. You must have gone to Trump U or a christian "school".

[@77Tadams]

Its good to be pro-choice.

[@peacewithyou6341]

@@77Tadams choose with whom you have sex so you can care for your offspring

[@TransConservativewaifu]

Thank you, all pro lifers for defending life

[@AT-mu6ov]

Read Numbers 5:11-5:27, aborting bastard babies (cheating wife) is accepted

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

You mean pro-birthers

[@NinjaDog9123]

@@wyleecoyotee4252ro choicers don’t give a shit about babies when they are born. They indoctrinate them.

[@Val.Kyrie.]

​@@wyleecoyotee4252absolutely. 100% pro birthing. Women have a right to eat during labour, to move around, to have midwives, to have doulas, to choose where to birth, to reject interventions, to say what their kids get. Vehement birthing rights advocate. That's ACTUAL reproductive rights. You have reproductive rights when you're actually reproducing.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@@Val.Kyrie. Then your support ends once it's born

[@eileentravers1542]

There is no justification to killing an innocent baby.

[@DriveInFreak]

There is no justification for the government forcing people to give birth against their will.

[@jeajoirs4010]

I could make a justification for euthanizing you that at least 50% of the population would agree with

[@thegreatness7043]

The mental gymnastics destiny will go to for sexual degeneration is astonishing. Lila was great in this debate

[@Puddleglum8917]

This was like listening to a 13 yr old boy arguing with his mom.

[@kisds700]

Agreed. Destiny is insufferable.

[@PunkEvangelist]

Honestly, the thumbnail looks like that too

[@slxthkween]

the overweight chick was really the worst one tho. she keeps snapping at lila and getting triggered by destiny

[@Pouncealot2023]

No it wasn’t it was very insightful if you ignore kristin

[@katarinahayter7228]

Five year old boy.

[@JoshSJoshingWithYa]

I think that Lila did a very good job. She has the patience of a saint and is capable of debate without extreme emotional response. I think that Kristan was a bit too emotionally combative against Destiny (which he uses against the Pro-Life movement in his own *Pro-Lifers triggered* clips), but I do appreciate her passion and tenacity for the sanctity of human life in the womb.

[@daniellevy2272]

what I love about Destiny is that he represents the consistency of this ideology. I love it beacue it reveals how dumb and immoral the argument truly is

[@TheRomanticsWB]

Sometimes he does. Most of the time he 'appears' to be consistent by using analogy that isn't analogous at all lol. There are few people doing debate today that really understand what analogy really is. He also constantly throws out the whole list of 'fallacies' he found on the internet at some point in the past just like a 4chan or Reddit doofus.

[@Elitest2]

What's dumb and immoral? Forcing women to go through childbirth? Agreed.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@Elitest2 Forcing? That's like saying you got drunk, drove a car and killed someone but it's not your fault because you had to get home. You were "forced" to kill those people. You guys have such sad, antiquated arguments that were categorically beaten hundreds of years ago by people way smarter and more logical than you could ever aspire to be.

[@nickblank5712]

when you use emotional appeals like saying dead babies a hundred times you know you're argument is fundamentally really good

[@jeremiahsams2848]

His wife's boyfriend complains about that all the time 🤣🤣🤣.

[@CF-rl8mz]

The two QUEENS in one room joining forces. Amazing.

[@emma_luce_0623]

I love both but KH is definitely more of a solo debater. I don't know why it was 2 against 1, whether Destiny is wrong and ignorant or not.

[@CF-rl8mz]

@@frostic824 “Destiny” is an idiot with zero answers to why killing a live humans being is acceptable.

[@darknotered7425]

​@@frostic824 If you had pulled your head out from your back crater to watch and listen to the actual debate, you'd realized that the crap you were watching and the fart noises you heard, weren't the actual debate.

[@michaelthatoker7125]

@@darknotered7425You sound retarded. They absolutely failed.

[@allisonvieira5909]

this entire comment section think destiny lost because the women declared they won in a fit of insecurity. these women were insufferable

[@nicoleMTCL]

I can’t imagine his children seeing this someday. This is what a weak man looks like.

[@Joyfulminimalist]

💯. Strong men take on adversity till death do they part.

[@firstlast9916]

He has a kid. And he said in this debate that he would have aborted his current son if he was pro choice when his ex girlfriend got pregnant.

[@digitalnevada77]

@@firstlast9916wow… that shit is rough. This guy sucks, and I honestly mean that. I don’t wanna come off as a ‘hater’ but this clown spews off the exact opposite of a positive example to follow if you are a male, I think. Anyways 😅

[@henryvdl3692]

@@firstlast9916 please tell me you’re not telling the truth

[@firstlast9916]

@@henryvdl3692 yup. He says it toward the end of the full version of the debate.

[@TransConservativewaifu]

Thank you , for defending life

[@_agk_]

Are you really the person you mentioned in your name ? if so Kudos to you I am trans conservative hubby . 😊

[@masonrogers6319]

Pro lifers looked foolish here

[@laurenmungaray3912]

There's nothing wrong with abortion, how about people stop sticking their grease noses in people's private lives. What if a woman or a girl gets pregnant from their rapist? Would you people still shame the woman for not wanting the baby? F*ck off

[@highlightrelz897]

No one cares about life, otherwise you’d be vegan. We care about the conscious experience

[@BeccaMathias-uw3qq]

He is a parent? My gosh - God help us. How can he argue that side when he has seen the miracle of life?

[@Elitest2]

Idiots

[@kazdar9281]

@@LoveGodLovePeople896he never said a what comes out of a woman is a clump of cells or a fetus? Great generalization

[@kazdar9281]

​@@LoveGodLovePeople896 when they come out of a vagina they are called a baby

[@geraldtoaster8541]

@@priontex4439 Bizarre that you make this comment but also defend the actions of Nazis in another. I find it genuinely strange that you could feel this way about human life and say the things you do. Seek help 🥰

[@roundtabledetails3307]

Because he does not use his feelings, but is actually capable of critical thinking.

[@Indigoporcelain]

You can never win a debate against someone who is intellectually dishonest. You can point out fallacies and hypocrisies in their argument but they'll deny deny deny.

[@greendholia5206]

First stage denial, stuck in stage 1

[@Indigoporcelain]

@@frostic824 how so?

[@Indigoporcelain]

@@frostic824 if an embryo, zygote or fetus is left to its own devices to develop, does it not become a baby, child or person? We all started as a clump of cells, and were left to grow to what we are today. These cells also divide and develop on its own volition, it’s a biological process, and the beginnings of life. Therefore when you remove it at any stage you are also removing life, are you not? Look up the definitions of the words you stated that are scientific and non-emotionally charged. Embryo: unborn offspring. Zygote: fertilized ovum. Fetus: unborn offspring, in particular unborn human baby more than 8 weeks after conception. Just because they are in Greek of Latin does not make the definitions any different than if you said them in English. I am not religious in the slightest but I do know biologically that it becomes a baby that grows into a child, teen then adult. The distance that a baby travels through a birth canal doesn’t not suddenly make it alive, at this point it is already kicking and moving separate from the mother, with a separate heart and DNA, it already has life. The mother doesn’t suddenly grow 4 arms, 4 legs and 2 hearts just because she’s pregnant. Those extra limbs and organs are not her body. They don’t belong to her.

[@michaelthatoker7125]

@@frostic824This right here. There is 3 stages of pregnancy. These people are retarded

[@DadeMurphie]

@@Indigoporcelain they refused to engage in good faith and took turns interrupting and avoiding anything Destiny had to say.

[@sarralemon]

Destiny shouldn't be talking about abortion, he knows nothing.

[@skiddwister9143]

God bless your passion, Lila. People like Destiny are the reason I hate watching debates on the internet. They use the pathetic age-old technique of sophistry. Coined in ancient Greece of philosophers who used the tools of debate to not find the truth, but to win an argument. You called it out by leting Destiny and the audience know what he was trying to do.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

Great comment. You hit the nail on the head with Destiny for sure. I rarely see anyone point this out besides myself. It's just semantics and argumentation. There's no substance. People think there's some kind of consistency but that's because he also uses childish tactics. Every time his inconsistency is exposed, he gets loud and crazy until you don't know what's going on any longer.

[@karolinaciucias664]

OH MY LIFE! Foolishness indeed is very loud. For me you won this debate in the first minute. Thank you for your tireless work to save the unborn.

[@laurenmungaray3912]

If so then we would have to deal with the effects of over-population, what do you say to that? smart*ss

[@karolinaciucias664]

@@laurenmungaray3912 My dear, google 'overpopulation is a myth' and have a read. Thanks

[@Hatrimn]

​@@laurenmungaray3912Can we delete you to assist with over population?

[@laurenmungaray3912]

@@Hatrimn can I delete you instead? Lol f*ck off

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@laurenmungaray3912 The world is not overpopulated. People are just corrupt and make bad choices.

[@beautythought3502]

She is SO GOOD! A fearless pro-lifer! ❤️

[@yadielPR1997]

​@@frostic824Delusional, are you?

[@roundtabledetails3307]

@@yadielPR1997 🧟

[@Paula-cd2fd]

I only heard one "pro choice" person say facts..."Yes, abortion is ending the life of a human being; but I agree with doing that if that is more convenient for the mother to be." I respected what he said because at least he wasn't trying to make excuses.

[@gorgo4910]

I find it much more horrifying. It’s the difference between not realizing that you left the baby in the bassinet on the roof of the car and doing it on purpose. One is to pity and the other is to despise.

[@Paula-cd2fd]

@gorgo4910 I just think he at least was honest. And not trying to justify it with nonsense.

[@Paula-cd2fd]

@@user-zz9uo4jh7w I guess that's why others try to make up excuses.

[@gorgo4910]

@@Paula-cd2fd yeah I used to think that way too- that at least they’re honest. But after thinking about it a bit longer than a few days, it’s really so much worse.

[@roundtabledetails3307]

@@gorgo4910 Cry about it

[@SWGinSWVA]

Lila you ought to ask whether abortion solely for sex-selection &/or for ridding society of “undesirables”/eugenics is AOK with those who, like this guy, say they “just don’t care” that abortion indisputably ends at least one human life! Also, if Scientists found a “clump of replicating cells (aka “life”) on Mars~ would the Scientific Community & all of humankind not conclude “there’s life on Mars?”

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

True, single cell organism are life, but to be fair, Destiny was arguing that a “person” does not deserve the human right to life until it experiences consciousness. The problem with that argument is consciousness is not a valid qualifier if a human being deserves the right to life or not. If a human being is alive; regardless of mental or physical state or consciousness, that human being has the right to live. His argument is flawed at its core. Either a human being has a right to life in ALL situations, or it does not as we can use ANY qualifier to justify killing (murdering) it.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

The debate isn’t about ‘life’ it’s about rights and personhood.

[@SWGinSWVA]

@@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp That’s like me saying: “How about those Yankees!” Are you obtuse?

[@SWGinSWVA]

@@JohnDoe-dr9ff All due respect but I’m 60 and worked with OBGYN’s in my 30 year career in Pharma and you gotta keep it more simple to get the attention of the woke mob! They DO marvel at the possibilities of one-celled organisms IF ON MARS!

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

@@SWGinSWVA stop being stupid. The debate is about the moral status of the single cell zygote. Not about wether it’s alive or not.

[@Roheline9]

His debate was embarrassing. The best part was when the host asked him to stop slouching and he got defensive. Although there was a lot of talking over each other on both sides, he didn’t just speak over you both - he actively got louder, would make loud exasperated noises like a child, just an array of strange antics to have when debating the destruction of the most innocent human lives - debating with two women who deserved a lot more respect than that. It really did come off as sexist. Lila really does have a knack for talking to people about these things though. It’s interesting to see how peoples demons come out around her. That other man who emulates Andrew Tate on the other whatever podcast, and the young woman who unfortunately started using something in the bathroom - then this display - it’s actually fascinating to watch peoples demons come out and Lila just stays focused on bringing the conversation back to the babies in the womb. All the love to Kristen, I’d probably mention how misogynistic Destiny sounds, too; but Lila really stays focused on the mission. It’s impressive to watch.

[@Elitest2]

The 2 women god smoked.

[@jeajoirs4010]

He did get louder when he got interrupted. Someone ran this through a counter and they both interrupted him a grip more than he did them. They also couldn't repeat his position back to him after debating him for hours. You don't mind the bad faith, but the noises really bug you, huh? Not to mention the emotionally charged language and presupposing that children are "alive" to attack the morality of your opponent in a debate about abortion is really illogical. They're literally there to discuss whether it's a person or not. Destiny sounds "misogynistic " because he is talking to women the same as anyone else? He talks to men the same exact way and nobody cares at all.

[@Jackthat1]

We know the exact moment when life begins, there is no argument there, when sperm meets egg, that’s life.

[@kinghoodofmousekind2906]

Precisely. But many who are pro-abortion always play semantics and get away with justifying the murder of a newly formed human life because it is not as 'clear cut' in appearance as a person sitting next to them. Which is sad, because it robs those human beings of their dignity as members of our species, as unique individuals.

[@theresas2520]

You would think it would be pretty clear.

[@kinghoodofmousekind2906]

@@theresas2520 I think the issue is: it is clear. It is even simple to understand. But it's not easy to accept. Because then, when a woman gets pregnant, both her and the guy who has sexual intercourse with her have a responsibility towards a new developing life. And in an age in which we try to brush away all responsibilities, all duties and focus only on 'rights', on this "me me me!" grabbing of libertine things, we forget that actions have consequenses, and we rather swipe them under the rug (in the cae of a newly conceived life, throw it in the rubbish bin via an abortion [which can be rather traumatic, but truth must bend to the ideology, like Stalin more or less said once, iirc]).

[@Jackthat1]

@@AhmedKamara94 that’s not my problem, I don’t want to be responsible either but I know I have too, it’s time to grow up and be an adult and being an adult has responsibilities and consequences, murdering a baby should have extreme consequences.

[@IvanGonzalez-kf4lp]

And the argument isn’t about ‘life’ it’s about wether that life warrants moral consideration of a person.

[@CS-mf5un]

If Destiny really valued the underlying machinery to make continued consciousness, he would prefer preborn babies not be killed because they have the highest potential for the most continued consciousness as in they truly have more amounts of that experience left than older people.

[@user936]

I think that is a Potential vs in-the-moment-of-reality argument. This is why they couldn't answer the Coma Question - it would undermine their foundation.

[@CS-mf5un]

@@user936 not really. Potential for human life and consciousness is pre-conception. Once a human is in the beginning stages of the life cycle, it is a predetermined element of that life cycle.

[@user936]

@@CS-mf5un but a foetus is not conscious even after the moment of conception. If no brain is present consciousness cannot exist. Hence destiny's amoeba comment.

[@CS-mf5un]

@@user936 a fetus is already NOT an amoeba at the moment of conception. They are never equivalent.

[@CS-mf5un]

@@user936 to make this equivalence, you must argue that you, as a human, were once the same as an amoeba..... You can function like an amoeba now as an adult. The argument is whether or not you were the SAME as an amoeba. Were you an amoeba?

[@lvx4408]

I will never look for guidance from a 35 year old man with the haircut and demeanor of a 12 year old.

[@gbeans997]

The “could be” “it might be” sort of answers drive me nuts. Thats just another way of saying “yes, but I can’t admit they’re humans because that would ruin my argument”

[@dazza761]

atch the whole podcast, then you'll understand . they cut the clips disingenuously.

[@MicheMoffatt]

When you begin to defend the behaviour of the Nazis - I think we can agree you’ve lost any credibility you began with.

[@geraldtoaster8541]

@@priontex4439 "the nazis burned books that i don't like actually, which was good!" imagine being this stupid

[@nikkishears6402]

"You're were a fetus 18 weeks old.." "I was half sperm, half egg." At 12 weeks the baby is formed, having all it's parts.

[@DriveInFreak]

LMAO You must have gone to Trump U or a christian "school".

[@DadeMurphie]

No not even close

[@nikkishears6402]

@@DadeMurphie , I suggest you take a fetal development class. At 12 weeks gestation, the baby is formed with all it's parts.

[@KoffyGG]

Forgot to add the bit where she bit the bullet on the brain transplant.

[@geraldtoaster8541]

forgot to add a couple of bits, really.

[@ThunderPuppy11]

He came in heavily prepared, but still got destroyed.😅

[@roundtabledetails3307]

you didn't watch the full debate did you?

[@jocelinerijanto3250]

The only sentence that will end Destiny's argument: In the long run, if the human being is able to gain consciousness, the human being should not be killed.

[@jhnxavier]

Lol, right? Pretending loss of consciousness due to brain death is the same as not allowing consciousness to develop, is such a false equivalence fallacy.

[@silvershadow4297]

My sperm could potentially become the dna that creates a human life

[@DadeMurphie]

That makes his argument.

[@DadeMurphie]

@@jhnxavier allowing it to develop? So you are admitting it isn't conscious.

[@jhnxavier]

Yes a cake not existing yet because I didn't let the batter finish heating up in the oven is different from a cake not existing because I ate it all,@@DadeMurphie.

[@MarVest]

I recommend watching the whole debate. This is cut up badly for a reason😂😂

[@Lotterywinnerify]

Destiny sounds like a moron.

[@Em_t_]

Destiny looks even worse in the full debate. His arguments are ridiculous.

[@Em_t_]

@@frostic824 he really didn’t. He looked like a fool.

[@Em_t_]

@@frostic824 destiny was nonsensical the whole time, but we probably need to agree to disagree

[@MAGA_Queen2024]

And I also add with Bill Burr's analogy. If you mix up cake batter and you put it in an oven and someone comes along and pulls the cake pan out and slammed it on the floor it doesn't make it any less of a cake it would have been a cake if you left it in the fucking oven.

[@jasonwiley798]

Actually a fetus early in development doesn't look like a human.

[@Lotterywinnerify]

Yes it does. It is by definition a human. Because it is not an “adult” human means nothing whatsoever.

[@LC-lf8se]

So thankful for Lila Rose having the courage to speak the truth.

[@roundtabledetails3307]

lol

[@jonkalmen1556]

Gotta bring your A-game to debate Lila!

[@Elitest2]

Not really. These 2 women performed abysmally

[@Ntwadumela89]

@@Elitest2must be gay it’s ok

[@Elitest2]

@@Ntwadumela89 ape

[@TheUzamaki1234]

@@Ntwadumela89 🎯💯

[@Kerrywawa1]

Sacrifice the baby on the alter of inconvenience 😢

[@d4mterro320]

Not a baby but ok loser

[@lindsaypaige4628]

@@d4mterro320it is a baby but ok loser

[@vanessasantos8316]

Every time Lila calls her opponent by his name, she shows authority and confidence. Destiny on the other side, never call his opponets by their names.

[@nickblank5712]

It shows condescension, and you're lack of interest in being good faithed in a conversation

[@Lotterywinnerify]

No it does not show condescension. It’s an attempt to get the person to pay attention.

[@theaharper5528]

​@@nickblank5712Destiny never argues in good faith. He debates to win, not to actually solve an issue. I see his tactic all the time. He deals in half truths and moves the gial post in conversation all the time.

[@nickblank5712]

@@theaharper5528 You can't possibly think that when posed the hypothetical about a doctor having a button that could tell you if the person will wake out of a coma, and Lila said that's not possible because that button doesn't exist. You can't be serious right? You want to talk about good faith like that side was operating with any real engagement in this debate?

[@nickblank5712]

@@Lotterywinnerify 0% chance. They interrupted him all the time and talked over him repeatedly. They talked for almost twice as long as him. They also didn't listen multiple times during his answers. There's absolutely no doubt it's purely a tactic for being condescending, you can rewatch the full debate and watch his respect for the conversation deteriorate after snide comment after snide comment.

[@joebriggs5781]

Kristan ruined this if anyone watched the whole thing. It was awful. Most people won't see this cut up version, they're going to see the whole thing where she firebombed the whole debate.

[@brookecarreras779]

Destiny has to resort to infantile behavior.

[@SK-ut6tw]

I think destiny's blow up doll could argue better than him.

[@d4mterro320]

He rekt those chicks. are coping this hard??

[@Jackthat1]

That’s the whatever podcast’s girl, he couldn’t get a girl that good.

[@SK-ut6tw]

​​@@d4mterro320did he? I just heard an angry estrogen packed male screaming at two women 😂 Awe man he's going off strictly consciousness as a marker of value of human life. Who's going to tell him babies in the womb begin responding to stimuli in the first trimester and dreaming in the second trimester?😂

[@lvx4408]

​​​@@d4mterro320think you are seeing what you want to see, here. Not how it actually played out

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

@@d4mterro320​Based on Destiny’s position, it would be justifiable to murder you because your consciousness is flawed. Are you sure you believe he “rekted” then?

[@oglds91]

Holy cow, I cannot believe how bad faith destiny is in this debate. He smirks and acts annoyed the whole time. I expected better from him. Ladies came out on top no doubt

[@mercedesflores1440]

She won the debate! She is prepared, knowlegable, smart and wise 😊

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

I disagree. I think her and especially Kristen, did us pro life is a huge disservice for the most part. They constantly interrupted and talked over Destiny, he just didn’t do a good job of presenting their points for the most part. Even though I agree with that 100%. This was a huge disappointment. I think Destiny had the upper hand through most of the discussion.

[@akiltircuit7515]

No, Destiny wiped the floor with her.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@pleaseenteraname1103 You and I must have been watching a totally different debate.

[@cameronmar1130]

@@TheRomanticsWB We did, we watched the full unedited 3-4 hour debate, you watched a 30 minute selectively and disingenuously edited and clipped vid. Destiny absolutely mopped the floor with them in this debate (I’m Anti-abortion btw but holy shit they were so bad faith in this debate)

[@TheRomanticsWB]

@@cameronmar1130 I can tell by the way you assumed that I only watched the 30 minute version that you're illogical and inconsistent yourself.

[@ZenSponge]

“If you want to morally grandstand…”’- Destiny, as he emotionally grandstands. Maybe one of his wife’s boyfriends can point out the irony.

[@tohyhihi]

Hahaha wow that blue haired guy doesn't even understand his own arguments. He was so lost he tried to laugh it off. So embarassing 😅

[@padruigmacrodain]

I can never take someone with blue hair seriously. If hair were meant to be blue, one would be born with it.

[@vanessadesire7]

The man doesn’t understand that the truth doesn’t change just because he doesn’t agree.

[@TransConservativewaifu]

Glad both of you got on this debate

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Watch the complete debate. The women lost

[@Nineteen-Eighty-Four]

​@wyleecoyotee4252 the side for not killing babies always wins. Unless you're a wacko...

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

@@Nineteen-Eighty-Four No one is killing babies. Watch the whole debate. She lost

[@lindsaypaige4628]

@@wyleecoyotee4252what does during an abortion then if babies don’t die?

[@mrsW-]

​@@wyleecoyotee4252lmao. You poor thing.

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

Libertarian here that is pro life. I wanna say…I don’t agree with destiny on a lot…but this is the only argument he’s done…this specific debate…where he didn’t make me once go “hmmmm he’s got a point”. He was his weakest here and I’ve seen him argue this subject before and do better.

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

Oh and if you ask how I can be libertarian and pro life…I ask you do libertarians believe in murder of the innocent ?

[@jhnxavier]

Lila's expertise makes it difficult to gish-gallop unchallenged with sophistry that usually goes unnoticed.

[@jhnxavier]

If those who take the lives of the innocent infringe upon the rights of others, wouldn't that entail those who abort innocent human lives infringe upon them? Abortion advocates can't refute the sound logic that human life is antecedent human life protection.

[@kisds700]

This is the most fiery I have ever seen Lila. That’s how you know Destiny has no base for his arguments and is just concerned with being loud and contradicting himself.

[@joebriggs5781]

She did fine but at times lost her composure, but overall still good. But Kristan was totally obnoxious and pretty much ruined the whole thing.

[@jeajoirs4010]

Your criticism is so vague because you're too stupid to articulate an actual reason why you thought she won. Typical.

[@dominicconnor3437]

You cant always tell what evil is by looking at it but when it speaks it's very easy to identify.

[@Kerrywawa1]

Satan always wants a sacrifice.

[@AT-mu6ov]

No, Yahweh does. Read the bible

[@Jackthat1]

@@AT-mu6ovanimal sacrifice yes, human no.

[@AT-mu6ov]

@@Jackthat1 Like that’s better 😂 read the bible, there is PLENTY of human sacrifice

[@Nineteen-Eighty-Four]

​@@AT-mu6ovyou must not have read the new testament. Satan and moloch want babies killed.

[@levelzero4187]

@@Jackthat1Don’t feed the trolls; they don’t have any understanding of what they’re talking about. They just want to get a rise out of you.

[@juliesalazar9463]

I can't imagine someone with this absurd thinking at SOME point doesn't have the light go on and see just how ridiculous they are!!! I suppose if it does, they won't admit it. 🙄

[@tianamarie989]

Sometimes they do. Like Dave Ruben. Not every one is as brave as he is though so there's that. If Destiny walks away from this with a small what if, it'll grow and fester and eventually he'll be disgusted with himself, and implode.

[@PkmNIhMs]

They will find out when God returns with his wrath.

[@jordanmattievisuals]

At roughly @15:15 to @16:06 - Destiny knows he is about to lose the debate so he does his best to dodge and distract. "You're trying to win this debate by etymology", he claims... using an argument built on the etymology of the words: you - are - trying - to - win - this - debate - by - etymology. Brilliant work, Destiny. Brilliant work.

[@amandanorris8]

😂 I was so confused there. Thought he said entomology….I’m like how did she bring bugs into this?? 😅

[@michaelthatoker7125]

I guess if you’re dumb as shit yeah. You kill everyday and you don’t need to. Animals, plants, insects. You don’t need to do these things, but you do. That is fact. Humans can live off water and vitamins. Stop pretending to be pro life. Nobody here is

[@TheUzamaki1234]

🎯💯

[@yuunoaboi21]

We need to bring back a culture of accountability

[@DriveInFreak]

I aree. It's long past time that We The People hled anti-freedom, anti-women, anti-American forced birthers accountable for their actions.

[@Hatrimn]

​@@DriveInFreak Anti freedom to kill innocent humans, absolutely. Ensuring women are born is anti women? 😂 Ok Anti American makes zero sense, try again.

[@kerrieonmywaywardson]

👏🏻

[@DriveInFreak]

@@S-tr4gd This isn't Russia, thus that "forced to have an abortion" narrative you are trying so hard to push isn't going to cut it. Yet again; some state governments here in the USA are forcing people to give birth against their will do to taking away the option to abort. I have no idea why you can't seem to understand that. "have you personally EVER seen a woman forced to go to a hospital and giving birth against her will?" That makes no difference at all. Every time someone that wants an abortion cannot get one they are/ have been forced to give birth against their will. "Have you ever seen a woman giving birth at home because she was pressured into it by family members or her doctor?" For about the thousandth time: someone pressuring someone into something isn't even close to the same thing as the government forcing someone to do something. "Have you ever seen a woman be imprisoned or fined for giving birth. (Because I have, just not in America)." Forced birthers want to charge and convict people for having an abortion.

[@ClintGrantham]

It's not so much that prolifers attract people. It's that prochoicers push people away the more they try to defend their position.

[@NonsenseSir]

Buying alcohol is not a HUMAN right. Someone who is 21+ does not have more human rights than someone who is not yet 21. This guy is a goof ball it was super frustrating he couldn’t understand this simple idea.

[@TheRomanticsWB]

He knows this but this is how Destiny 'wins' debates. He does it in every debate I've ever seen him in and then constantly accuses the other side of doing it.

[@michaelthatoker7125]

There is plenty examples of “human rights” that don’t apply to everyone. That is fact. Way to be delusional though

[@NonsenseSir]

@@michaelthatoker7125 give me a couple..

[@arts9812]

That final response was spectacular. Even if a baby “wasn’t a person” yet (which it is) there should still be protection for a potential life. Say I was growing tomatoes and the tomatoes weren’t ripe yet. If someone destroyed my plant and was like “there weren’t edible tomatoes” I’d be like “yeah, but there was going to be if you didn’t destroy my plant, how dare you!”.

[@DadeMurphie]

no one would consider it murder

[@metaempiricist]

@@DadeMurphie Oh you actually think that was a gotcha don't you? Pathetic.

[@leannabond5522]

The arrogance of this guy is mind boggling

[@liminal_spaces_on_earth]

You should upload the full video.

[@allidland6739]

This was SO hard to watch. Lila is so well spoken, but Destiny made almost no sense. I don’t even feel like he was making good arguments, just spouting nonsense.

[@csongorarpad4670]

Godspeed, Live Action!

[@julianowak6948]

Lila and Kristin are phenomenal at calmly and succinctly but with force carefully debunking these idiotic pro-death positions. Many many thanks for the work you ladies do.

[@dazza761]

atch the whole podcast, then you'll understand . they cut the clips disingenuously.

[@simply_neuroscience]

Kristen was anything but phenomenal in this debate

[@julianowak6948]

@@simply_neuroscience she didn’t get much speaking time in the debate. Would’ve liked to here her more. But in general, love the work they both do

[@spartanburgbusinessbroker]

If you take somebody and put them in a room without any resources, knowing they have no ability to get out, and you purposefully leave them there, your argument is that you didn’t kill them? If you put a noose around someone’s neck and tie it somewhere up high and remove the stool from another feet and wait long enough after doing so, they will die. But I guess according to him, you didn’t kill them.

[@pedroe.villalva1507]

They got him good multiple times. 😂

[@Elitest2]

Not once.

[@theaharper5528]

They absolutely demolished him.

[@Elitest2]

@@theaharper5528 give 1 example

[@shanahendricks9831]

Destiny is arguing for the sake of understanding and winning the argument. He doesn't realize the implications of his position. This is a position for a 10 year old to take as he is learning to have a voice, build confidence and stand up for himself. Destiny is a father he should as a form of development be able to stand up for something bigger than him

[@joyhenry-dp8nd]

Thank you, Krysten and Lila, for standing up To the truth! 💙

[@brianellis4850]

The fetus consciousness and patient under sedation was a genius argument by Lila. It completely eroded this idea that you have to be fully developed or fully conscious to have a right to live.

[@DadeMurphie]

No she misses the point entirely and refuses to understand the basic concept of existing capacity and the present.

[@dited358]

Nothing more funny than seeing him get salty while "ironically" wearing the blue hair dye lmao

[@Normalizethis]

He/they is absolutely dishonest and insincere.

[@NoCrustSandwich]

Bruh its insane how manipulative and disengenious this channel is 😂, the amount of jump cuts just to hide how badly the pro-lifers perfomed is the funniest thing I've seen yet. 😭😂 Anytime Destiny is about to give context or elucidate his position it quickly cuts away 🤣🤣🤣

[@Lotterywinnerify]

He can’t elucidate an absurd position. No one can

[@timrobinson8314]

They destroyed Destiny and he just resorted to teenage boy humor.

[@johnny5654]

It's 2023 and we have to explain to people that killing people is still wrong

[@DriveInFreak]

Nope, we have to explain to far too any of you nitwits what a person it.

[@Joker-tz4xo]

Imagine being his child listening to him justify abortion 🥸

[@emmaba8265]

I thought Destiny supported his claims with facts and studies but I guess I was wrong. In so many moments throughout the debate he contradicted himself a lot! And at times pulled bizarre arguments out of his ass. Compared to the other girls, they were all about facts and supported their argument factually till the very end. And when asked difficult and hypothetical questions they always had a very moral and factual response. And Destiny just asked hypothetical questions and tried to win that way but when the tide was turned on him with the question he asked, he just kept creating new arguments. Lol I’ll give the ladies this one.

[@jeajoirs4010]

Which hypothetical did the ladies have a "moral and factual" response to?

[@nbgrooms]

When are they going to learn NOT to debate Lila Rose. This woman is brilliant.

[@roundtabledetails3307]

When she learn how to actually debate.

[@Patcannistan]

Any grown man with blue hair is automatically wrong.

[@Matheus545]

As a Tesla investor, I appreciate the term “baby Tesla.”

[@Bikutoriaiz]

Why didn’t we get to hear from Hawkins?

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

Destiny talked about redefining words. Meanwhile, after one hour I could no longer listen to him as he did not know the definitions of: Life Murder Consciousness Death He doesn’t even know the actual definitions of the words he is using to make his argument. If someone doesn’t even know the definitions of the words they are using to form an opinion, their opinion is invalid and flawed.

[@christopherponsford8385]

I think it’s less that they don’t know the definitions, but that they know that committing to a precise definition opens one up to criticism that they don’t want to be nailed down on. Committing to precise definitions would clear up the fog necessary for their arguments to work. They need that fog.

[@JohnDoe-dr9ff]

@@christopherponsford8385 Agreed. I just remember when I had debate in middle school, if we didn’t know the definitions of words we were using for an argument, our teacher would fail us immediately. Destiny leads me to believe he never had a debate class, or he is an outright liar. I don’t think he’s stupid, so I’m left with him being a disingenuous liar to argue his positions.

[@MrAzsnakes]

Amazing Women!!!!!! I am praying for them. Thanks for your strong efforts in protecting God's children!!!

[@sonis.mcallister]

unfortunately, this podcast was over 4 hours long and this clip is only 30 mins long. If you watch the entire debate, these two women regularly resorted to insult, gish gallop, hubris, and Ad Hominem attack. They could not understand the concept of hypothetical and they would not listen to any answers to their questions. The entire debate was so riddled with arrogance that nothing was solved. They were possibly the two worst pro life debaters I've heard and set the debate backwards by years.

[@Ntwadumela89]

A gay man arguing with women about abortion!?…the west is lost

[@elmermaldonado1902]

Poor guy, he will find Lila in his pillow, his soup, in the clouds… I mean, when you are so destroyed that you end up screaming “ruuum, ruuum” throwing tantrums like a child, justifying the murder of the innocent, the disabled, and so cornered to say that even the Nazis are right… you’re brain has completely exploded by then. Well done Lila, as usual. Talk about empowered women.

[@jeajoirs4010]

Funny, because the only people who think Lilia did well are on this channel. Even other pro-lifers admit that these chicks can't debate worth a damn.

[@drdoobie8445]

Watch the full 4 hour debate. They sucked

[@Itz.kriptz]

Take a fish out of the water your killing it same goes with preborn baby’s

[@123G-r4d]

22:07 The most insane part of this whole debate. Destiny literally saying well what if the statistics you cited were the opposite lol

[@CoffeeTXqueen]

He can’t let her speak without interrupting whatsoever. He also has zero valid arguments. He just seems like an angry man child. I’m embarrassed for him.

[@dazza761]

watch the whole podcast they interrupted way more. or stay in your delusion. no skin off my back.

[@geraldtoaster8541]

This is quite frustrating to read - please watch the full debate. There's a person who tallies up interruptions and "speaking time" in debates like these and for this particular debate, Lila and Kristen interrupted Destiny twice as often as he interrupted them. There are also some hysterical blunders throughout the debate on the pro-life side, and if you browse the comment section on the @whatever podcast's upload of the video you'll find many pro-lifers disavowing Lila and Kristen's performance for being a poor showing.

[@ralvis22]

Stop talking over one another, plz. Good discussion but it's one-sided. One guy can't keep up with two women in an argument and still be respectful.