Does Training CAUSE Hyperplasia?
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@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 2 минут бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm
@Failsafeman100
@Failsafeman100 Сағат бұрын
That's Mike Matthews in the thumbnail no?
@lanleeder717
@lanleeder717 2 сағат бұрын
BEAUTIFUL <3 MAY THE ALGORITHIM BLESS YOU AND YOUR CHANNEL AND THE VALUE YOU PROVIDE
@lejancalo
@lejancalo 4 сағат бұрын
Shoutout to Infinity programming for taking care of all these variables.
@santicruz4012
@santicruz4012 4 сағат бұрын
Algo comment c:
@dieandgoaway
@dieandgoaway 5 сағат бұрын
Does this matter if you are training purely for hypertrophy?
@123peterjackson
@123peterjackson 6 сағат бұрын
Kind of hard when you have to cycle 20 miles to work and back per day
@homeboy11153
@homeboy11153 6 сағат бұрын
Excellent information. Thank you.
@Rockhug
@Rockhug 6 сағат бұрын
My question is how many primary day a body/big muscle groups/small muscle groups/ ligaments can take in a week? I understand that we can establish our base ligne by recording our progression, but as a climber, thing are not as simple. I do try to take as many takeaway from powerlifting as possible, because our hand goal feel similar, as much strength as possible with good coordination. That said, our baseline training (climbing hard) are often compound and we take secondary day where we work on technics or problems that put less load on specific muscle group, but in the end we do put stress day ins and outs ont our mains groups (back, shoulder, arm, forearm). What is your opinion?
@lejancalo
@lejancalo 2 күн бұрын
Great video Josh! Keep them coming.
@timtollefson8122
@timtollefson8122 2 күн бұрын
I’d like to know if anyone has ever done a study comparing doing a 8 day “week” or 6 days or 9, my guess is we have always based everything off a 7 day week because it’s convenient not because of biology
@thghtfl
@thghtfl 2 күн бұрын
The question posed wasn’t answered, was it?
@winstonshinya982
@winstonshinya982 3 күн бұрын
There're studies on animals where they train one side of the subject and then count muscle fibers of both side after training, which discovered causality. e.g., W. Gonyea et al. 1977. For research purpose, It's not rigorous to say that this also works for human, but I guess the evidence is strong enough for coaching purpose
@benjaminlair
@benjaminlair 3 күн бұрын
Great video ! I think that one of the most overlooked methodoligical bias in this study is the way of estimating fiber number. The way they do it implies that fiber size and hypertrophy is similar between all muscle fibers so that the fibers analyzed from msucle biopsy are truly representative of the rest of the muscle. I do not think that this premise is true, at least from my experience in mice, which shows a great effect of muscle fiber area variability and regionalization. This could lead to a significant oversestimation of fiber number in trained individuals in my opinion. I do believe that this is even a bigger bias that study design unless some literature can show that fiber size is homogenous throughout the muscle in humans.
@datadrivenstrength
@datadrivenstrength 3 күн бұрын
It's a good point! I focused on the philosophical aspects of study design purely because I have limited experience in methods used to estimate fiber number - though I agree that some of the assumptions seemed a bit tough to justify. Mainly just wanted to discuss that, even if you grant the measurement as a accurate representation of the construct it aims to quantify, without putting forward a causal model that aims to elucidate confounders/colliders etc., the effect can't be interpreted causally imo
@EvanZamir
@EvanZamir 3 күн бұрын
I totally get the causality argument but either way it’s a super interesting result. I mean either resistance training does indeed cause significant hyperplasia or if it doesn’t there’s some really wild selection bias going on. I wouldn’t have believed that if you told me. If it is true, then think about the consequences. You could take untrained individuals, count their fiber density and predict whether they will respond better to resistance training. That’s amazing! My guess is because that sounds even more farfetched than the original hypothesis, that the simpler explanation ala Occam’s Razor is actually hyperplasia. Just a thought from a failed academician. 😂
@ericrhelms
@ericrhelms 3 күн бұрын
this is excellent
@sioux7420
@sioux7420 5 күн бұрын
Great episode. Thank you, guys.
@FrogmortonHotchkiss
@FrogmortonHotchkiss 5 күн бұрын
Nailed it. I am a grumpy, old veteran, and while I like nerding out, I see a lot of this as fuss over trivial differences; however, I always add the caveat (when grumping) that it's different if you are trying to hit your Olympic competition peak before 25...
@UpintheairFL
@UpintheairFL 5 күн бұрын
Retired and have all day to complete my 5-7 rep to failure sets. Some days it takes all day to do my program. Any research on too long a rest period? Thanks Go Owls!
@dieandgoaway
@dieandgoaway 7 күн бұрын
Regarding the 52 sets study were the people always sore? If they were sore while they took the measurements they probably had some inflammation so maybe the measurements were skewed because of increased swelling.
@djgoodwiler7783
@djgoodwiler7783 7 күн бұрын
If i understand this correctly, it parallels the programming in the low fatigue strength template from Barbell Medicine.
@joeldicks2181
@joeldicks2181 8 күн бұрын
Background music too loud, distracting and irritating. Content is great.
@filipedeluccabraga
@filipedeluccabraga 9 күн бұрын
RIR-velocity relationship.
@GerardoHernandezF87M2
@GerardoHernandezF87M2 10 күн бұрын
I sometimes take 10 minutes between sets
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 10 күн бұрын
I’d imagine that rest is one of the least important variables for hypertrophy when considering volume and closeness to failure. We can always drop load and continue to press the pedal near failure.
@MicahSmart
@MicahSmart 10 күн бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks for the practical takeaways
@gerym341
@gerym341 10 күн бұрын
Great video. Thank you for sharing
@wesrobinson7506
@wesrobinson7506 11 күн бұрын
Would love to hear about advanced volume cycling! Thank you guys
@SchmittsPeter
@SchmittsPeter 11 күн бұрын
For some reason, people seem to enjoy ignoring error bars. Was the same with the "proximity to failure" meta. And they don't even have to run the stats.
@MrShitConnection
@MrShitConnection 11 күн бұрын
Could you address the practicality of training to failure? I.e., the cost of fatigue that may negatively affect, for example, volume.
@10xmz6
@10xmz6 11 күн бұрын
Thanks a Lot! :⁠-⁠) Does it also make sense to do long partials on chin ups, where there is nearly no challenge in the bottom position??
@tv26889
@tv26889 12 күн бұрын
Bad take. The very process of gaining muscle relies on progressive overload--adding reps or weight to your sets over time. If you don't, muscle growth will stall. Who has bicep development doing curls with 20 pounds?
@jordengerbrandt
@jordengerbrandt 9 күн бұрын
I have seen it! You can also get bigger by adding more volume instead of weight to the bar, time under tension, or range of motion, you can also increase your effort or proximity to muscular failure and grow more. Why do some people have large muscles but are not nearly as strong as some with smaller muscles? The nervous system also complicates things. You are right though, muscle size does matter I don't think we know how much it matters and your recommendations are great for the average gymgoer just trying to get generally big and strong. Nothing wrong with keeping it simple.
@tv26889
@tv26889 9 күн бұрын
​@@jordengerbrandt I Disagree with building big biceps with 20 pounds. Agree with instead of adding weight or reps, you could add another set, or stay at the same weight and do a harder variation. However, regardless you will have to go up in weight or reps at some point. Why do some people have large muscles who arent as strong as someone smaller? Muscle insertion points, limb lengths, ability to recruit more motor units and neurons to lift the weight with the amount of muscle they have.
@tv26889
@tv26889 9 күн бұрын
@@jordengerbrandt I myself do that, doing very long range of motion dumbbell presses with a significantly lighter weight instead of a regular range of motion with big weights.
@TomasDohnal10
@TomasDohnal10 13 күн бұрын
Amazing video and looking forward to the upcoming one! I have one question related to the task specific hypertrophy continuum-if my goal is to e. g. increase my competition 1rm squat, would I get benefit of performing the squat/leg press motion more "bodybuilding style" (i. e. slow eccentric, get into a deep stretch, pause for a moment) at the expense of lower specificity (both in terms of different motion pattern and lower weight)? (Same would apply for e. g. competition bench press vs dumbbell bench press with deep stretch at the bottom) Thakn you very much!
@dariusdarden9670
@dariusdarden9670 13 күн бұрын
Great content
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 13 күн бұрын
Again, if muscle size isn’t important for strength then why are larger lifters stronger? Why do weightlifting and powerlifting federations have weight classes?
@tv26889
@tv26889 12 күн бұрын
Right, the very process of gaining muscle relies on progressive overload--adding weight or reps to your sets over time. If you don't, muscle growth will stall.
@sealedindictment
@sealedindictment 12 күн бұрын
and who let these nerds out of the lab?
@datadrivenstrength
@datadrivenstrength 12 күн бұрын
Did you watch to the video? Timestamp 1:31 may help
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 12 күн бұрын
@@datadrivenstrength yes this is a general question to anyone saying muscle size doesn’t matter, not necessarily you.
@tv26889
@tv26889 12 күн бұрын
@@datadrivenstrength How can you say increasing muscle size doesn't increase it's strength when the very process of making a muscle a bigger relies on progressive overload--adding reps or weight to your sets over time. If you gained 10 pounds of muscle you went from say doing 3x5 with a weight to 7x5. You just got STRONGER as you gained muscle, not POTENTIALLY. How could you quantify something like that anyway?
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 13 күн бұрын
If muscle size doesn’t matter then why have weight classes ?
@datadrivenstrength
@datadrivenstrength 12 күн бұрын
Did you listen to the podcast?
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 12 күн бұрын
@@datadrivenstrength yes 🙌 there seemed to be speculation but that strength wasn’t explained by muscle size - but those are studies that don’t include the population - typically - that’s actually powerlifting or Olympic lifting. It seems straightforward that if your goal is strength you need to also maximize FFM
@datadrivenstrength
@datadrivenstrength 12 күн бұрын
We tend to agree. It’s just pretty humbling what we see in the research when that concept is tested, hence why we view it as something we value as coaches but isn’t totally evidence based.
@jaymills1720
@jaymills1720 12 күн бұрын
@@datadrivenstrength absolutely! Appreciate the data. Just makes sense - more FFM = more opportunity for mechanical tension assuming you use that added FFM to strength train?
@123peterjackson
@123peterjackson 13 күн бұрын
Miss programming with you guys. Shame since moving to the states I lost all strength and am skint cos everything here is expensive and I have cycle 15 miles a day to work as I cannot afford the car. Anyways, love the podcast.
@jordengerbrandt
@jordengerbrandt 13 күн бұрын
more about the relationship between strength and hypertrophy would be awesome
@tv26889
@tv26889 9 күн бұрын
Progressive overload: adding weight or reps to your sets over time yields muscle gain. Simple.
@jordengerbrandt
@jordengerbrandt 9 күн бұрын
@@tv26889 indeed, but I'm more interested in the nuances on the topic of muscle size related to force production and why increasing muscle size doesn't always seem to translate to a proportionate increase in strength. Are there different types of hypertrophy? Is it all about the nervous system? Can specificity save us from sarcoplasmic hypertrophy lol by going heavier on our hypertrophy work?
@primetimeperformance
@primetimeperformance 13 күн бұрын
The correlation between hypertrophy and power is astonishingly low. This is due to power being a function of neuromuscular drive. Size, in and of itself, does not translate to power in the absence of max intensity training.
@alexanderchernoshtan9898
@alexanderchernoshtan9898 14 күн бұрын
at last someone talks about specificity as is, tyty what about the correlation between size and str? its pretty obvious
@datadrivenstrength
@datadrivenstrength 14 күн бұрын
Taking a group of participants and looking at the relationship between muscle mass and strength is very limited as that can't tell us what *caused* the strength gain
@alexanderchernoshtan9898
@alexanderchernoshtan9898 13 күн бұрын
​@@datadrivenstrength yap, but if the only variable that changed during the research is muscle thickness (via hyper training) u can show the correlation correlation is not causation, ofc, but if str grows with the muscle mass, emm, yeah, there are a lot of other factors 🤔
@tv26889
@tv26889 12 күн бұрын
@@datadrivenstrength We have a study that shows dexa scan information can predict your max squat within 10%, this indicates how big the primary movers is fundamental to your strength.
@kapoioBCS
@kapoioBCS 14 күн бұрын
Nice 👍
@danieljahn2027
@danieljahn2027 14 күн бұрын
Strength limiter 💪🏼💗
@homeboy11153
@homeboy11153 14 күн бұрын
Killing it man. Good information.
@billyshavers7806
@billyshavers7806 15 күн бұрын
Its been proven in multiple studies that you dont have to go to failure to build muscle
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial 12 күн бұрын
He would know, he was apart of the latest meta analysis of said studies.
@santicruz4012
@santicruz4012 11 күн бұрын
You dont have to, but going to failure from time to time its great
@justinsavs
@justinsavs 16 күн бұрын
One way I would go about the Full Reps vs Partials debate would be just give the Partials their own exercise slot. Say Pec Deck, for One Exercise where we do x15@9, Then MyoReps 1-5x4, Then Pec Deck Partials After that Exercise for x15@9, Then MyoReps 1-5x4. Then attempt to Increase performance week to week On those two exercises in their own slot. Both ways, you train pretty close to failure, and you can have measurable ways to track each's performance. The measurable ways to track each's performance was always something that I hated about partials on movements where you don't know what exactly would be called a "partial"
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 16 күн бұрын
I think for the first couple of years training, people just need to put in plenty of effort with good technique and try to increase the weights they are moving. Stay around that 5rep range and train hard for 3 months then take a week off etc etc. Gains should be straight forward for the first year or maybe 2years. After that gains slow down. Then i think its more useful to use percentage based training, which can get the gains going again.
@Strassenschlaeger
@Strassenschlaeger 17 күн бұрын
Geoffrey Verity Schoefield does this for mist exercises and his results are quite compelling
@FrogmortonHotchkiss
@FrogmortonHotchkiss 5 күн бұрын
So do I, but I don't have his genetics... I'm not saying this just to be a doomer. My point is that 'results' don't reflect much about such small nuances of technique & programming. I knew a gifted outlier at school, and his approach was uninformed and haphazard, while his results were incredible.
@JohnProph
@JohnProph 17 күн бұрын
Thats crazy because I would have sworn that Josh was like 5'8" lol
@JohnProph
@JohnProph 17 күн бұрын
This would be called "Platz failure"....thats when u cant move the weight at all
@georgesarreas5509
@georgesarreas5509 18 күн бұрын
I actually love your content. Maximising hypertrophy is my main goal as i shifted away from powerlifting (looking better makes me more comfortable tbh)