So smooth! I love riding chop and small waves with it, it does it all!

that's a tough question, but for me I'd say the 850. it seems to go fast enough to keep up with groundswell, still turns and carves beautifully. I know that 750 would be totally awesome but there would be some days where it'd feel kinda small. my friend bought a 750 as his one sk8 and he doesn't use it as much as he thought. I think if he got the 850 he would be out on it more. if all goes well, I should have the 1150 to demo in the next month, stay tuned!

@@OCEANBOUND1 thanks man! Keep up the awesome videos and stay stoked!

as far as I know, just the handles. I'm gonna try to reach out to Sam and see if I can get a few questions answered before I put out a review, this is on my list. thanks bud, I wish you an awesome day!

sup bud! yeah it def crosses lines all over the place. I'm stoked to try to paddle it on a glassy day. and yeah, Cloud IX would be sweet. two local friends rip on them... I'll see if I can do a video where we swap and I can get some first impressions. fun fact: I used to ride Cloud IX and they were the first foils I winged with before I moved to Armstrong. but those low aspect surf wings I rode are a world different that what they have going on now. I'm keen to try them, I'll make it happen!

@@OCEANBOUND1 cloud IX people seem to really enjoy then in australia for surf foil related activity, i spoke to a guy that tried a lot of gear and told me they were the best for surf foil.

@@youdigsurf I can imagine. back in the day (like 5 years ago) they were the best out there IMO for surf. new designs look like they are fast, efficient and carve well. my friends rips on his! I'll try to make that happen soon.

sup bud! still learning! I tried like in an earlier session like 3 times, but this sesh I tried maybe 40-50 of them. so this is pretty much the first session. I ended up making over 50% of them, way more near the end for sure but I think I nailed my first 2 or 3 in a row. I haven't watched any how-to videos on them, so maybe I'm missing technique, but for me the most awkward part was grabbing the wing with the second hand and lifting it back up. you could definitely practice the pass on land to get some feel for it. but nothing beats actually doing it cause there's more going on in the maneuver than a regular tack and you just need to get used to it. getting used to the wing leash change wasn't that big of an issue, but sometimes it can get annoying cause I find the wing leash migrates under my knees when I'm getting back up. but I'm getting used to moving it out of the way every time. that is the worst of it, and I don't see any other issues, so it's not that bad. will I stop using the FG? probably. I bought the 75L so it could replace my v1 75L FG. I almost bought a v2 70 FG and then these ML's came out. It's cracked so many times and in different places, my new goal is to drill some holes in the back to try to let water out, I'm so curious if it's holding water or not. after that I may just plug it up and either pass it on to a new guy for like $200 or donate it to a community boating program. unless my son gets interest in the next few months. I'm not in a rush to get rid of it but the ML gets up to speed faster and I don't mind the extra length so that's gonna be my daily driver. thanks bud, I wish you an awesome day up in Alaska! fingers crossed I get to wing up there some day!

@@OCEANBOUND1 great job in your progression and thanks for the feedback and tips. I didn’t get past all the tangling because I’m so used to using wrist leash now. But I started on a waste leash so I’m sure I could get that figured out sooner or later. I had an interesting path in that it took me two years to get my first jibes. And first day on heel side tacks then figured out toe side. Then lost heel side on my bad side. The end game on the back pass would be just what you said. Someday tacking onto a wave or wake and surfing out of it. Inspired by your video. Let me know when u decide to come to Alaska. Skagway was 37 knots yesterday. All day at least 25-30.

yeah I think it'd work great. you could prolly even go with the 85L and make things a little easier. I think if I had FD that would be my ideal setup. LMK if you go there and what it's like!

woot woot! thanks bud!! I wish you an awesome rest of your weekend!

thanks bud! so nice to finally be getting things up to foil, even if the flatwater paddle ups is mostly a party trick. but my legs are burning like crazy pumping, so I have so much work I can do build stamina. and it blows my mind the 75L can get paddled up! I can't want to try this in waves. thanks as always Rob, I wish you an awesome rest of your day!

Thanks bud, I’m just being me so that’s the plan!

@@OCEANBOUND1 me too 😉 very keen to hear about the 75ML with the 680 (as that will translate to 85 and 780 at my weight) It would be great to see that compare vs the duotone midlengths. Not buying the hype from either brand until real world reviews are in Cheers 🥂

@@wingfoilrentals right on! I should have an FOne ML coming in the next few weeks, I'm not sure what size they will be sending but I'm hoping something close to my 75L. I'll see if my wing dealer is thinking about getting any Duotone, that would be my deciding factor.

It’s hard to tell, to me the regular tack when you push the wing forward and upwind of you seems easier. Maybe cause you see the wing the whole time? That said, I started nailing these on day one but I did already know how to tack. But tacking took me like 1000+ tries. So regular tacking seems easier but maybe I should have started with these! lmk if you start trying these first and they come easy! Thanks bud, I wish you an awesome day!

@@OCEANBOUND1 Thanks. I expect I'll get it some time, I'm no talented whizz and getting older but still optimistic.😅

@@cheynedowsett hi!! I’m on my 3rd fuse in going on 4 years. So I upgraded to the v2 as soon as it came out, and then just upgraded again. The one thing I can recommend is NOT to wiggle it when you take it off. I didn’t know that for the first year or two, and the more you do that the more it can wear down the corners. If you are careful of that it should last a long time! I decided to get my current fuse cause I upgraded to the new HAs and also getting into DW so I wanted to start fresh.

@@cheynedowsett oh and yeah, the pump is def better. That’s where these things are in their prime. Sk8 is prolly faster.

Yeah it’s def a unique wing, so far so good. And yeah, it’s def expensive. I’m thankful they helped me out on it. Board is awesome. Another thing that hit me at the right time in my progression. Stoked! Thanks bud I wish you an awesome day!

If DW is the focus, def get a DW board! Or consider the 85L of these maybe? But my DW is 107L and I wouldn’t go much smaller if you are serious about paddling. It was hard at first and some days in big chop it’s still a little hard paddling but I feel like it’s finally pretty good for my skill level.

@@OCEANBOUND1 I was looking at the 85, I’m 80kgs myself and thought the extra volume might be useful. Do you think you could have gone larger for your DW board?

@@seanscott321 yeah def could have gone to the 120ish. It would have helped with stability for sure.

@@seanscott321 you can try my 75L whenever.

@@OCEANBOUND1 thanks man, I’ll definitely take you up on that one of these days, I just got a ha1180 and I’m super curious how it would pair with ML

Yeeeooowww! Thanks! You know how it goes… I had the footage and was so stoked, I had to work it in. But it’s awesome that it’s part of the paddle club. I can’t wait to try to surf with it, both with a paddle and prone. It’s gonna get a lot of use! How is yours? 55L right?

Oh awesome!! I’m totally into them. Seriously stiff and solid. The new handles are like tied right now for my favorites out there. I can’t wait to see how it ages! Stoked to have it in my quiver. Thanks bud! I wish you an awesome weekend!

Yeah!! I almost went out on a bigger foil but so happy I didn’t. Worth noting the 680 was so awesome this sesh for both jumping and the glide doing upwind tacks. But the ML and the M1 got me so stoked!! Great combo all around. Thanks bud, I wish you an awesome day!!

Woot woot! Thanks my Mac friends!!! The new handles are pretty sweet, I’m stoked! I wish you all an awesome weekend!!

yeah I agree! the first PC wings I tried were great and I've been looking forward to trying their new designs, stoked I got a chance with the M1. and yeah, def $$. full disclosure, I bought it from them, but at a discount, and I'm totally thankful for that. I'm not sure if I could ever swing any of the industry's high-end wings normally. I plan to do an honest review, stay tuned! the 75L ML came at the right time. my old 75L FG was cracking faster than I could dry it and repair it and I was about to get the 70L FG. and I know that's awesome too. but doing a straight 1-to-1 volume-wise was ideal for me, 75L is a good number for my 77kg. manageable and easy but still fun in pretty much all conditions around here. I do love how it gets up to speed quicker. I think it will get me out on the HA680 that much more. doesn't feel too long. no regrets. let me know what you end up getting! thanks bud, I wish you an awesome week!

@@OCEANBOUND1 if there’s a deal to be had there’s no judgement from me, I’d take it every time. 🤘🏽Price point is another reason I rate the XPS so highly. Stay frosty 🌊🏄🏽‍♀️

Yeeeww! First comment from Chris 🕺 Yeah I was curious after seeing Julian’s in your last video, mine is obviously 20L more, which is significant, but I’m stoked and feel like i got the right size. If someone gave me a secind free one, id be stoked to pick up a 45 or 55 but as an all arounder it’s gonna be great. Stoked. And yeah the PPC is great. A little more heavy than you’d think but totally solid. Stoked to have it in the quiver for sure. It’s gonna get some use! And the behind the back pass is so smooth looking when you get it. I can’t wait to add that in on the crazier wave days. Stoked to hear yr working on it too! Pm me soon and let’s catch up. I’ll tell you my PPC story 😜👊 I wish you and yr crew an awesome weekend!!

Sweet bud! Glad you circled back! The foil you made sounds fun! I dig a good springy feeling underfoot. Sometimes you can get it from the mast, other times the foil. But if you work with the flex, sometimes it can really improve your experience in the right conditions. Glad yr digging it! Thanks and I wish you an awesome weekend!

Oh man it was perfect. Almost too much for the 4.5m but we were just going down wind so it was never an issue. I can’t wait to make this run again!

🙏 thanks! And no worries! I’ll get down there again soon! I saw your staring in another production, I haven’t watched it yet but look forward to it! I wish you guys an awesome weekend!!

Thanks as always Chris! Going a mile out is so out for my comfort zone as well. It’s a little better when you have a paddle, but at least this day it was blowing side on pretty hard so there wasn’t a lot of trouble we couldn’t get in. But with the waves stacking up at that sand bar, I was totally stoked the whole time! Talk soon bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!

Totally! Thankfully the tend to stay where their food is, but it’s not that far away!

I do live the dw board but I really wanted to shred hard with a smaller foil. It was blowing 25-30 so I was stoked to be on something small. The ML board arrived today, so it was kinda like a saying goodbye sesh to my old FG too. So stoked about the ML!

Wow the ML reviews. Can’t wait 😛

Yea, he’s riding the DW almost every session now. I still enjoy my 80L shredder board, but I have seen the advantages of the DW. Just not sure if I want to spend the $$ for one.

@@559danh the ML only go up to 85ltrs. It’s a wave board with all the advantages of a lighter wind float

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Hahaha I promise I won’t! This area doesn’t have a ton of dw options, it’s a challenge that I’m loving. So many paddle sessions in the past few months I havent covered, but it’s nice to finally see some gains. Thanks for watching and I wish you an awesome day!!

Looked an awesome day 😎 love this run need to push myself some more in this direction I'm nervous of been so far out tho haha 😄 more for me to learn. Great vlog interesting thanks for sharing my man your buddy's long ride is very impressive 👍 Have a great weekend to you and the crew

it was great! that trip got me stoked. you'd dig it on a wing for sure.

@bcransto1 yeah man what a trip! so glad we did that, so stoked for the next time without the wing!

One of the best. Down winging. Did you need to adjust your mast placement Jeremy? That’s a lot of shim. Just curious. I use the ha780 in almost all conditions. 87kg. Sometimes would appreciate the 880 I’m guessing. 🥂

Oh no way!! That gets me stoked. I think I’m a few weeks they will be able to send me a wing with handles. Prolly one of the CWCs. So stoked to try them!! Thanks bud, I wish you an awesome day!!

Yes!!! So stoked for you. I bet hat tail is magical. Good for you bud!

Yes!!! I’ll make it down soon to wing with both of you. I’m due for a Harding’s session… it’s been years!

Haha I string’d it for 15 years and don’t miss it 😜👊👊

@@OCEANBOUND1 Yea, been stringing it for 14 years....I cant make the transition to slogging...

On it! I ordered one a few weeks ago, hopefully in the next week or so 🤞

It's better than the v3, but I only had 2 or 3 sessions on that one as well. they reduced the size of that heavy load diffuser in the trailing edge, so it has a little better drift in light winds but I feel the v2 was better. I think I'd lean towards the Swing but I'd love to try them back-to-back. I think the Origin is the lightest and cheapest so those are huge factors to me. And it feels more like a v1 or v2 Strike. I could be happy with either! I rode my 5.5m v3 Strike the other day, it's still super annoying running over those wingtips in lighter winds. and the canopy is so loose, it's def a different wing than it was when I got it but I don't love it's direction. I think they are getting better though! I'd give the v4's a chance. demo one if you can!

@@OCEANBOUND1 oh ill definitely try them. To be honest im glad progression is slowing down a touch and you don’t absolutely have to be on the latest gear. I’ve been surf foiling since gofoil Kai days and it’s been for years now that it’s absolutely critical to have the latest gear. It was almost like you were wasting your time if you didn’t have it. It’s kinda nice that it’s becoming like “yeah I’ll check out that new wing/foil at some point” … as opposed to being like some crack addict that would sell their own mother to get it 😀

Sup bud! The 4.5m is a hard size to judge when underpowered. It is super light, and better than the v3 that had a really heavy trailing edge. I’m still against the load diffuser, it seems that alone has killed its drift but the v4 load diffuser is def smaller. Stoked to try the new handles! Sounds like they can send me some in July, so stay tuned for more! Thanks always for the comment, I wish you an awesome rest of your weekend!

Sup bud! I haven’t handles a v2 or v1, but I think they fixed the squirrelly-ness in the v3. And I dont think it flips a ton but I do always try to keep them close so they don’t flip. So upgrading to a v3 is probably worth it, even if it’s just for the handles. And not super expensive either. I def respect that. Hope all is well bud!

Sweet! Not all foils are the same but most newer foils seem to have potential for more of us to have fun at smaller sizes. The new Armie HAs I ride have a lot of lift, these Eagle HAs have more speed… so there’s always a give and take but in general, smaller is always more fun if you can make it work! Stoked you are moving down in size, and I loved MA wings cause they kinda have a little of everything. Hoping all is well, and I wish you an awesome weekend!!

Sup bud!! I totally agree, the thing shines on swell. And I didn’t have anything besides wind swell but it put a smile on my on my face. Must be sweet for some fast and larger groundswell. I’d prolly want that 700 in my wing quiver. I bet it’s pretty fun to turn on more powerful waves. Let me see what I can do I’ll I maybe be able to try a smaller size. Thanks bud, I wish you an awesome weekend!!

Thanks Andrew!! Your in bias is totally acceptable 😂👊 You try the Eagle X on any DW experiences yet? I’m curious about that 1000.

Sweet you got to try it! I would def want at least one in my quiver, mostly for the speed and glide. I’d love to try a sk8 and one of these kinda back-to-back to feel the difference. I like them both but I’d love to know what one I’d gravitate to these days if I had to pick one. I hope yr season is going well bud! Full send and I wish you an awesome weekend!$

There are many people chopping them off on the regular eagle versions and report no much difference in performance and in some ways the improved aspect is it “vibrates” less when passing through the white wash

My usual low end ride is the HA880, that’s pretty easy to pump up in light wind. but I can go out with my HA1180 to in lighter stuff, I just rarely do. Im not so much of a super light wind winger anymore… I don’t really think about going out under 12mph cause I’m happy to paddle up to that.

​@@OCEANBOUND1I read that you changed armies fuses regularly due to wear, does this always happen? Can you prevent it or do they warranty it? I want to swap to armie to try the new ha but don't want to replace fuses, cheers

Around 77kg or a little under 170. So the 780 would be a great one-foil quiver. You could always then go down to a 580 if you wanted something smaller/faster. Or, you could do 680/880 and be happy with those 2.

@@OCEANBOUND1 Awesome Man, thinking 880 then buy 680 down the road. Thanks Man, Foil On 🤘🏼🌅🌬️

Thanks bud! Yeah I miss the v1/v2… I wasn’t a fan of the v3 as they killed all the lightness that made them so special. I really hated how the trailing edge of the wing felt so heavy, it sucked at light wind drifting. Plus they went with a heavier canopy material 🤯 not sure what they were thinking. Maybe the v4 will be back. I doubt I’ll try one. I haven’t used my 7m Ventis since I bought my DW board… so I’m either making the 5-5.5 work in light winds now or I’m just paddling when that light. I’m in Boston! And yup, it gets cold up here for sure!! Although today it’s over 90F 🥵 Thanks for watching and I wish you an awesome day!!

Right on bud! I haven’t had that happen. did it happen on different versions or mostly the v3? I did have some issues with my v3 but Cabrinha took care of them.

Thanks so much Chris! Yeah a 3m-4m would def get a lot of use for me… kinda over the big wings and starting to size down more with the DW board and decent front foils. Hope all is well bud and sending windy thoughts your way!