Honestly, the algo can suck a cack; it shows me the same video from the same people I watched every goddamn time or popular slop thats freaking irrelevant.

I will say this, I want it to leave this video several times because you start showing Lord of the rings footage or you start saying this or this or this or this about the lady who's putting her desk on the ground and honestly at regret staying to the end because I got absolutely nothing out of this except for try to figure out how to relate some side stories in there I mean you could have just said that then made this a 10-second video. Only reason I stayed till the end is the video was short and well it didn't end up really being worth it as it doesn't really show you how to work anything into your video and do it the right way just kind of says these people are doing this and you can figure out how to do it too I mean that's really not super helpful, One problem with channels like this is a lot of them tell you what other people are doing but if you're not a super creative person they don't really tell you how to execute, for somebody like me that's not super creative I would Hope to get some detailed instructions on how to make something like this work but all I got is this is what they did you should do it too. But it doesn't give me any Noah John the right way to do this or anything, I don't know for me videos like this are almost never helpful, these KZbin help channels it's kind of the same thing over and over and over and over This channel does this and you should do it too, that channel does that and you should do it too but doesn't really explain it. It's like making a video that says I'm going to teach you how to rebuild a car's engine and you just say this guy built it this way and you should do it like he did and that guy built it that way and you should do it like he did but that doesn't teach me how to rebuild the engine at all

I get the feeling that the test & compare reaches a conclusion way to quickly, especially considering that it uses time share as the deciding factor. I'm a pretty small channel and the content I create really isn't for everyone, when I release a video and check the watch time of it, it's always pretty obvious that there's a few people, probably mostly old time viewers who know what to expect, that watch the full video, while a lot of the other viewers give up very quickly. Honestly, the audience retention graphs on most of my videos are catastrophically bad. I was really surprised to see that one of my recent videos reached a conclusive result after just 170-ish views. That was a 62 minute long video, and according to the audience retention graph, after 22 minutes only 15% were watching and by the end only 9% were left, so less than 17 of those 170 people watched the full length of the video while most gave up A LOT earlier. This means that the deciding factor probably wasn't related to how good the thumbnail was, it was which of the thumbnails got presented to the most those, less than 17 people, that watched the full duration of the video. A thumbnail could have abysmally bad CTR, but as long as that thumbnail is presented to the largest share of "old time fans" of my channel that'll watch the entire video, it's almost certain to get the best time share %.

Can you all show us by example? Make a video on this channel go viral. Ryan has over 16M subscribers. Happy for him but us small creators are in a different position when releasing a new video to YT.

If you watch a good TV show, like the old MASH show. They do the same method all the time. Also, the method is much like writing a good song... Think about it.

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Pls complete my watch time

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Can you edit a video and post it again???? Dogg has a video that has bombed compared to the same type of video on other channels in our niche.

I am convinced now. Ran test and compare. A was a tn I wasn't too happy with and thought B was stronger. Results were 83% for A but CTR was .6. Not 6 but .6. I finally gave up and deleted A and went with B. As soon as I did that my CTR went way up, watch time went up. It went from my worst performing video ever to average. YT had to be showing the weak tn A disproportionately high rather than an even split.

Just ran my first test sand I got a 33.3 percent on every thumbnail. I'll try it again on my next video but it seems like they may have listened and improved.

I am curious, if anyone knows, Is it OK to upload a long form and a short at the same time since they use different algorithms, or would one throw off the other resulting is less views? If that makes sense.

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Hi Channel Makers, I'd appreciate it if you did not use the titles of my videos as examples of marketing that are purely for the sake of creating curiosity. When I say on the video you are referring to "The most detailed Starship Enterprise model you will EVER see", I didn't just write that randomly to create curiosity and attract viewers. I know without doubt that no-one else on the planet has built or is building the entire Starship Enterprise in any scale, let alone massive 1:25 scale.

You guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing these ideas.

"Give us 15 mins" like you knew ima watch at 2x speed 💀

this is awesome, the story bit is great!

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By extension regarding the Tolkien thing, look at the intro to The Fellowship of the Ring movie. It's somebody talking and a bit of music. And somehow you get goosebumps just from that. So the point like you make is that: make it interesting and you won't even notice.

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Tip #0: make a video about how to get more views?

Fantastic breakdown and a massive time saver 💎

Great video Channel Makers! We all appreciate your content!

If it works every time, then why aren't your videos going viral, and you're averaging only about 2,000 to 3,000 views?

Just get started on my travel channel! Let’s go!

Good video and great observation!

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Julie Thanks 👍 for another awesome video and I need to implement these 3 things in my videos. Love 🥰 the video and love 💓 Julie.

I totally get and agree with their decision not to just turn this into a CTR optimization tool that would almost certainly trash up the platform. But it seems the relationship to watch time is approximately nonexistent. It seems right now like someone who doesn't click on the video simply isn't part of the stats... If they want this to work without giving people access to all the stats (so they can just optimize CTR) they will have to build an algorithm that incorporates more metrics. (Maybe they already have without saying it?) CTR modulated by watch time would make a lot of sense, for example-downweight a view under 20 seconds to be the same as a non-click, etc. There aught to be enough knobs to tune there for this to function perfectly well.

Thank you for the info! I would be curious, how long has it been like this and how long will it stay somewhat similar? Thanks

Here is the big question.... Have you or others paid for A/B Testing from other services and tested them against this? That would be the most interesting way to learn more or compare it to

Pretty good stuff, even though I've heard similar advice before. I got some new ideas after working with my videos (different channel than I'm commenting from, lol)

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It should test clicks vs imoressions...

Hi Channel Makers Team, I just posted a video about my YT thumbnail tool being broken that you guys might find interesting. It appears to be a unique issue

Plz complete my watch time 🙏

Mr Beast said it best. Make 100 videos and improve one thing each video

my hack is using auto caps with so much time saved and auto silentse

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You ran these tests long ago with a pre-release version of the feature. If you rerun these tests with the current version of the feature, you’ll find that KZbin defaults to the old thumbnail when there isn’t enough data to give statistically significant results. They also tell you clearly when a result is inconclusive. The current feature will not show any data at all unless there are enough impressions. This video is misleading people and You ought to delete it as it brings the credibility of your entire channel into question.

How successful has it been?

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This is far worse than I initially feared. I share new video releases with my Patrons via email, and each email contains the same thumbnail. Therefore, these numbers must be incorrect. Additionally, how does a thumbnail determine how long I will watch a video? They need to establish a coefficient with the CTR for each thumbnail somehow (I'm not a math expert).

Im not gonna use it frankly - thumbnail is only 50%, if we could run 3 titles, maybe. But you will potentially end up spending a ton of time making 3 thumbnails and start sharing your audience potentially less thought-out and processed ones. I take 6 hours to make mine, it will probably destory me if i have to make 3.

REALLY interesting video! Thanks so much for digging in here! I've used it in my last two long form videos (was really excited with it) and both videos have been my worst performing videos in years. The CTRs were anywhere between 1% and 1.9% where, consistently my average across the channel is between 7%-10% CTR. Sure, that may be an audience thing for one reason or another, but I found that the videos were not being served up to my audience who had subscribed, they seem to take forever to get even half the impressions I usually would get in the first hour and even when I searched for the exact title AND my channel name, it didn't show up either. While I appreciate it's audience and NOT algortihm, I just find it highly coincidental that my 2 worst performing videos in years just happened to be using this feature. I've spoke to some bigger creators who also had similar results. Moving forward for now, I'll do what I always did, if the thumbnail isn't performing I'll swap it out manually.

I think unless your video gets lots of impressions, this feature is not for you.

Well that stinks!

I love reading the comments but no matter when I make a comment, it always shows up as first comment. I don't care for that because a few times, my comments get overlooked and the next few comments get tons of likes. It's embarrassing even if those commenters don't say anything exceptional. I don't care about getting likes but I don't like being on top all the time. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks