Man. Avril’s takes aged like milk in the sun.

Bogur got to go

Jake is literally just a damage control blizz puppet🤣🤣🤣

Custa and many others are sellouts 💀

Some people will call others smurfs when it could be that they are just having a really good game that day. A bad player will say "of it's a smurf gg, its hopeless let's just lose and go next" but a great player will say "ok this guy is playing really well but it's still winnable, it's just one person and we can just play around them and win". I've had so many games where my teammates morale will be down in bad situations but i just keep saying that it's winnable and eventually we win. Having a loser's mentality will not help you rank up and get better. Does playing against smurfs suck? Of course but complaining and being hopeless about it isn't going to help you win. If you truly deserve a higher rank then earn it and show the smurf that you're not playing around.

Jake: "in 6v6 you can't pick what you want to play" like having 1 tank that is incredibly easy to counter makes it easy to play what u want

That was the moment he vowed war on 5v5

The problem with Overwatch in general is the design of many heroes is completely broken and require no skill to play

why has it been so long since an upload?

Oke but don’t the stats say that whoever wins the first fight wins the game? This is just ass talking then

Jake saying dps can't kill a tank in 6v6 is so funny, after playing classic. Every single tank was killable as a dps 🤡

Yt plays this video every now and then for me. And i love watching it, so here i am yet again. The more the time passess the more i realise that how bullshit some of the points made to defend 5v5 are here. Just vague statements and full of assumptions. If anyone says playing against 1 unkillable is better and fun rn everyone will laugh at you. After 2yrs in 5v5 its more than clear it was Never easier to balance 😂

15:00 No, like in real life people face harsh realities and it's unfair! Smurfs/high skilled players will always be there! You can't avoid it and honestly it shouldn't be avoided! IoStux point of view is honestly the loser's mentality! competitive is about winners! THAT is the only thing that does really matter in ranked! you are in ranked for the tryhard experience! OF course you can decide not to deal with it but that's just not improving or admitting you own flaws! Awkward is 100% correct! IoStux point of view is Not good for improving!!! A lot of his argument are actually very petty!!! It's too protect the Losers!

Blame is the only one with the right mentality.

I think that 6v6 with 5 roles (main/off tank and support) is the best way to balance the game.

ok hot take, orisa, she has almost infinitive bullets!!!! Maybe this is the problem????????? KINDA SEEMS LIKE THATS IT!!! Hard to play vs anyone who's shooting nonstop at you.

yh tbf tank syn is so good compared to other roles

Prudes, Puritans, and Pilgrims

Bleach is so trash... samito has dog shit taste.

There should be no changes to orisa lol she's already so slow

Bogur is so cringe holy shit man

I think alot of these boil down to the balance not being good at the time of their point being made. Kinda annoying tbh.

36:00 So why make a career out of it? If you know that they weren't interested in a competitive side for the game, why would anyone even continue in that direction? It's the same with Dead by Daylight, BHVR tried one and made it obvious afterwards that they aren't interested in taking the game in that direction, so why do people still try to make something out of it? Sounds like a player problem to me.

all 6v6 argument really boils down to is 2 tanks is better than 1. and i agree. it sucks having one person take so much responsibility in 5v5

1:21:26 SAMITO ASCENDS

I feel like they could've added the talents and PvP Pve

I feel like sombra just needs hack fused into virus(nerf the damage accordingly), change translocator back to the ender pearl version detached from stealth, then use that free input for a timed stealth like old sombra on a duration. and maybe take off passive <3

Here is my issue. I would rather wait 20 minutes for a game that is 6v6 and feels like im actually doing something rather than have 12 minute queues for a 3 minute game because our raid boss tank is not as good as their raid boss tank. I am tired of sitting back and watching 2 tanks battle to give or take my SR. DPS have no impact on the game. Supports have some but very little compared to the tank battle. So yes, I will take longer queues for better gameplay experience. 5v5 had nothing to do with queues. 5v5 was created so that blizzard could make money off of switch and console players.

Bro what a nothing burger of a podcast. Whole podcast was them saying the blandest takes to appeal to everyone and not actually saying anything of note

they didn't mention that Juno was very weak to sombra bc she had so self healing orb like moira. could spawn camp her in some maps. now that sombra is nerfed, it's kind of a JUNO buff

wait, so there is no 6v6 Kingmaker? Why not? Shouldn't this be the best of all worlds?

you guys saying that in all those open formats, people will pick a lot of tanks is so wrong. They will do that in your ranks, yeah. But in the metal ranks, it's still gonna be a widow, a genji and a soldier... Nobody wants to play tank, remember? That's how we got here in the first place...

Bogur added nothing here other than emoting like an npc...

I agree with a lot of Bogur's thoughts but I also kinda hate how closed minded and dismissive and elitist he is towards stuff he disagrees with. Reinforce is trying to open up the convo of giving Sombra more mobility with something that he knows is crazy and says 2 translocators, Bogur immediately makes fun of the idea by saying 3 translocators would be better. But then in the next breath he wants more silly stuff in the game. Like pick a struggle bro

Haven't seen these sorta comments in a while so ill say it again: SVB is a fantastic podcast host please never stop doing these king 🙏

34:38 unpopular opinion no limits was fun af! 😂 The Sym stack car wash! The trick was to never do all 6 of the same hero because it's too easy to counter. For example if you're stacking Sym's throw a Roadhog or 2 in there to counter the Winstons they'll swap too. (Maybe throw in a hitscan with a Mercy or Anna incase they swapped to Pharah.) Seeing people get hooked into turret city was too funny 😂

1:28:40

People are playing junk lab to get the rewards. Its not as fun as they make it out to be imo.

Orisa having her falloff removed was the biggest miss, let her be mostly brawl with some poke, not good at both. On giving characters more options, I think its silly that all three Orisa abilities stop rein charge, like at least let him cancel unfortified javelin spin. Sombra having two translocators is a cooking idea, like having two tracer blinks but vertical. maybe make the window between stealth end and next translocator be 2.5/3 seconds to compensate?

What if Juno's Ult was actually a 0 Gravity field moving forward and gave all your allies Valk's movement but slower?

Stephen a is the WORST and dumbest person on espn though…

Sounds like what Bogur wants is just as much degenerate game play as possible

7v7 is the actual solution. strong tanks with big healing passive and then 3 dps, and 2 dps oriented supports.

I could be wrong but I assume that 6v6 is just going to be a "wacky" side mode rather than a serious test and consideration as a main mode going forward. streamers are going to get their bags cuz that's all they care for. the tests are going to end up very unbalanced and minimal effort is going to be made to try to make it work. then they can show all 6v6 enthusiasts the middle finger and kill the surging flame that has been burning for years. everyone (except the ones that are not settling for mediocrity) are going to be happy and say it was fun while it lasted but it didn't work out n shrug that away. "now let's go back to printing money shop skin simulator with rigged match quality and match making system." might be a very doomer take but better set your expectaions low, you know.

Nice. I love the variety of guests. This should be really good.

Junk lab feels like Mayhem mode.... I think it's mid. However, it could be expanded on to be something really cool.

45:50 Even as a Lucio main this is a really good point by Bogur 😂

1:34:25 well the reason why people are like that, is bc Blizzard LIED about PvE and yall "endorsed" content creators went with it. Take some responsibility.

I like Group Up Podcast, but this one wasnt it. And i dont care how much people dont like Samito, but he was needed here to balance the perspective and let them know how much stupid stuff they have been saying LOL. Tank mains pretending they think 5v5 is better XD

Kraan on is nice