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@TheTrafficTech
@TheTrafficTech 20 сағат бұрын
That is wild haha! Protected only right for personal vehicles and thru movements for authorized vehicles with updated signal placements.
@Jabberwockybird
@Jabberwockybird Күн бұрын
To be fair, that's a lot of signs and lights to read in a short amount of time. It's technically got the info, but realistically you would be holding up traffic to stop and read it all
@fatvegan733
@fatvegan733 2 күн бұрын
Install a bloody camera and be done with it.
@Todd.T
@Todd.T 2 күн бұрын
Six different signs with lights on them and six other signs with words on them. Drive at 40kmh and you have a problem. Now pretend you don't speak/read English really well. Add a delviery van that stops you from seeing the signs until the last minute, jaywalking people, lane splittling cyclists and a firestruck/ambulance with a horn and wailing lights. Add bad driving habits from somewhere else that add the logic of if a car can squeeze into any space, it's OK and pull a U-Turn anywhere you feel like it.
@jacobs1047
@jacobs1047 2 күн бұрын
way too many fucking signs
@frafraplanner9277
@frafraplanner9277 2 күн бұрын
As an American, Québec traffic lights look absolutely ridiculous
@koraytugay
@koraytugay 2 күн бұрын
A Do No Enter and a One Way sign pointing to the right would solve it. A traffic light that is permanently red makes no sense.
@koraytugay
@koraytugay 2 күн бұрын
They should put more signs with more text.
@nswtrains3153
@nswtrains3153 2 күн бұрын
To confusing without a do not enter sign
@nswtrains3153
@nswtrains3153 2 күн бұрын
In Australia NSW, we use red arrows to the left or right if pedestrians are crossing, it’s much safer and I don’t know why it’s only NSW Australia ( from what I know)
@j-bird1778
@j-bird1778 2 күн бұрын
The amount of signs is very confusing. A simple right turn only sign and a no entry sign would work fine. Also, the transit only lanes seem poorly marked. Bright red muni style lanes would likely help.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@j-bird1778 Agreed! Queen's Quay at Spadina has red paint on the streetcar tracks and a "do not enter streetcars excepted" sign. The Quebec province uses "right turn only" signs! They should do the same and put "right turn only buses, TTC vehicles and authorized vehicles excepted" sign. It's also labeled as "P-110-2-D" in the Ministry Transportation Quebec road sign book manual.
@404_profile_not_found
@404_profile_not_found 2 күн бұрын
6 different sets of lights for one direction of travel and 1.5 lanes. Then you add on the multitude of signs for drivers to read when they reach that set of lights. If you know that intersection or the rules for that section of road, its probably not an issue. But imagine being an ESL driver or tourist and having to parse that amount of signage with rules.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@404_profile_not_found that's true
@delicious_seabass
@delicious_seabass 2 күн бұрын
Toronto is such a ridiculous city. It's totally confusing for anyone who hasn't driven there before. Furthermore, the reason why people want to continue down King is because the next street to go west is several blocks north, and getting there involves sitting in tons of traffic. The TTC is a complete joke and the streetcars need to go, period. Just have one way vehicle dedicated roads, one on King for Westbound and another on Queen for Eastbound. Make another street dedicated for pedestrians and bikes, perhaps Adelaide. That would solve 95% of the issues.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@delicious_seabass I 100% agree that streetcars in "mixed traffic" need to go. Streetcars should run either on its own dedicated lanes (like Spadina or St Clair), or just simply have it run underground or on an elevated right of way. I am actually looking into a solution to this as well. What I had in mind is to make King St a one way eastbound, and Wellington St is already a one way westbound. Streetcars already run on Wellington St from Church St to York St. Streetcars won't be held by anyone who is confused. Another benefit with streetcars running on one way streets means drivers can actually legally pass a streetcar on the left side when it's stopped letting people on and off on the right side. The only drawback with Wellington being used as the one way westbound, means it can only go from Church St to either Peter St or Spadina (without major intersection reconstruction/redesigning). Other than that, I agree with making King St and Queen St one way pairs. 👍 Thank you for your suggestion! 👍
@j-bird1778
@j-bird1778 2 күн бұрын
I definitely prefer this over simply holding the light red for a few moments. Never really made sense to block through traffic that doesn't conflict with pedestrians.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@j-bird1778 You said it! 👍 I 100% agree and really want Toronto to use this anywhere when pedestrians have a head start from turning traffic.
@drsheikh
@drsheikh 2 күн бұрын
Garbage. There are 200 cars lined up, and a CHAPTER worth reading that in a busy intersection - Such cars are not allowed on such days of the week between such and such times. New drivers are dumbfounded. Downtown needs to get rid of the street cars that slows down traffic.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@drsheikh I 100% agree with getting rid of streetcars from "mixed traffic". Streetcars should either have their own dedicated lanes (like Spadina or St Clair), or have streetcars run underground or elevated.
@Aphrx
@Aphrx 2 күн бұрын
It's not really signal priority since I've still seen streetcars having to stop at a red for opposite traffic. It's more of a technically to be able to have a way to enforce the "Can't go straight on king street" since now it's just a red light that is allowing for right turns.
@Krueger444
@Krueger444 2 күн бұрын
I'm a fan of reallocating road space for transit and cycling. But that initial light setup is 12 kinds of confusing at a first glance.
@DmitriyLaktyushkin
@DmitriyLaktyushkin 2 күн бұрын
Sorry but this is awful design during the day, never mind at night. Once turned onto Allen Rd when bike signal went green because when you have a thousand G/Y/R signals all rammed in the same place and you are unfamiliar with area sometimes you just get confused no matter how good you are at driving otherwise. If a lot of people are failing to heed the signage there are reasons other than all of them being bad.
@awahhabmir
@awahhabmir 2 күн бұрын
Looks like a comic book. A bad one lol
@NathanShantz
@NathanShantz 2 күн бұрын
Yo this is confusing! They should have a sign saying NO CARS. That may help, ttc and other services know that they can go straight. It would be interesting to see what Google and Apple Maps tells drivers!
@Gentrol
@Gentrol 2 күн бұрын
I love this intersection! Too bad it got upgraded :(
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
@@Gentrol I know :( I miss the gentrols being there. At least nothing changed with the signal phasing!
@kino_cinante
@kino_cinante 3 күн бұрын
This why painted roads for transit only are helpful. Or go full European and have motorized bollards that move down only for transit and police.
@ltaproductions7989
@ltaproductions7989 3 күн бұрын
Transit Planner here, what needs to be done is either pedestrinize king street and be done with it, or replace the transit traffic light with the international transit signal, will be a lot harder to mistake a ( I ) and a ( -- )
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
I 100% agree with using a horizontal and vertical line for the transit signal! I just wish Ontario would legalize it. Right now, only vertical transit lines are allowed in Ontario, which is considered an "all movement" priority.
@colinwinogradoff6794
@colinwinogradoff6794 3 күн бұрын
Well of course there's confusion. 5 different signals and like 20 signs all over the place. Just one more step to BAN private cars from driving here.
@jaysedan
@jaysedan 2 күн бұрын
I thought private motor vehicles are already prohibited from occupying railcar only lanes, kind of like how cars are not permitted to continue straight through an intersection where explicitly prohibited (for private motorists) as indicated by observable roadsigns that are implemented with the intent of providing adequate and expeditious operation of public transport vehicles therefore decreasing wait times, increasing reliability, and improving safety and efficiency in addition to quality of life improvements for those who rely on public transportation for their daily commutes to-and-from work. But that could just be me 😅
@colinwinogradoff6794
@colinwinogradoff6794 2 күн бұрын
​@@jaysedanno, it's a shared street both cars and trams have traditionally shared the same right of way. You can see the tracks are flush with the road surface. They're called street CARS for a reason.
@sblack53
@sblack53 3 күн бұрын
Interfering with the flow of a transit vehicle should be an automatic license suspension. This includes not yielding to buses pulling out of a stop.
@LoneHowler
@LoneHowler 3 күн бұрын
I find it wild that cars are even allowed on the transit lane. In Calgary only transit and emergency vehicles are permitted down the transit way
@carlmenger9145
@carlmenger9145 3 күн бұрын
Do you know if google maps allows for routes going straight or turning left?
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
I don't think Google maps knows about it.
@BigCorgisGTJourneys
@BigCorgisGTJourneys 2 күн бұрын
google maps shows correct turning restrictions.
@frafraplanner9277
@frafraplanner9277 3 күн бұрын
Maybe Canada should use the horizontal and vertical bar signals for public transit like the US does
@Ayeobe
@Ayeobe 3 күн бұрын
Montreal has those, actually.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 2 күн бұрын
I 100% agree. It's unfortunately not legal in Ontario right now. Only vertical transit bars are legal in Ontario, which is considered as an "all movement" priority for transit.
@Aphrx
@Aphrx 2 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852It's weird cause some parts have the vertical line. I've seen it at Queens Quay and Bathurst. It's kind of half and half though, still has a red light but looks like 'green' is replaced with a white vertical line, to avoid confusion to the operators I assume.
@AmtrakProductions
@AmtrakProductions 3 күн бұрын
Smart
@TheRealCartman1
@TheRealCartman1 3 күн бұрын
At 6:20 the red car did the correct way, right turn into right lane then signal for lane change. You did it the wrong way, cutting across into the left lane. And honking at car pulled over is just stupid. Get a life and clean up your own driving.
@edgarwideman737
@edgarwideman737 3 күн бұрын
Pause the video at 2:00 and ask yourself. How in the WORLD are you supposed to figure out what that mess all means. I think it's more of a UI problem then mischievous motorists.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 3 күн бұрын
As much as I somewhat agree with you, you'd be surprised to see how many Torontonians don't pay attention to or ignore "no left/right turn signs at other Toronto intersections such as Lakeshore Blvd, Woodbine Ave, Eglinton Ave, or at other downtown intersections. Especially when left turns are prohibited only at certain times of day. It's been so bad there, that they had to install LED blank out "no left turn" signs at intersections. The LED "no left turn" sign lights up during the no left turn hours. They even had to add an "oversized" no left turn sign on Lakeshore Blvd! But yes, comparing it to King St & Yonge, King St & Yonge is worse, but not by too much.j
@youdonwannaknowme
@youdonwannaknowme Күн бұрын
We should use pictographs instead of so much text. Hasn't that been the general approach/direction we've been using for all signage? There are other ways signage could have been simplified too.
@TheTrafficTech
@TheTrafficTech 3 күн бұрын
Is there any current conditions where the vehicle signals turn green?
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 3 күн бұрын
Nope. The yellow vehicle signal will never turn green. The city did that, because they think it will increase the chances that drivers will follow the "no going straight" sign. It allows drivers to stop and read the signage. Only public transit, cyclists and other authorized vehicles are allowed to go straight, which have their own dedicated signal heads that turn green each cycle.
@TheTrafficTech
@TheTrafficTech 3 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 interesting! Yeah I’d opt to go with a vehicle signal with right arrows only. Might be less confusing for the simple minded haha!
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 3 күн бұрын
Yeah I never saw a setup like that prior to these new changes here! I thought for sure that fully protected right turn signal heads would be used, when I first heard of the planned signal changes. I suspect they want the red ball to be displayed at all times, because unauthorized vehicles aren't ever allowed to go straight. They could do that with fully protected right turn signal heads too. I remember reading that the city wanted unauthorized vehicles that illegally go straight to be considered as running a red light, so the fines are a lot more harsh. If any green indication is displayed without a red ball, it's not considered as running a red light. Toronto really wants to maximize the penalty for unauthorized going straight.
@moho472
@moho472 3 күн бұрын
I agree, and I mentioned this in a comment on a blog post, but someone said that the solid red is more communicative. I disagreed by saying that the red/yellow arrows would communicate to drivers that they must turn right only. If I recall, the MTO doesn't actually have a rule for coloured arrows, except for advanced Greens/Ambers ​@@TheTrafficTech
@TheTrafficTech
@TheTrafficTech 3 күн бұрын
@@moho472 yeah I noticed that. Still, a right only protected signal would get the point across here. One less display to look at. The authorized vehicles signal could be mounted on the left mast arm and vehicle signals plus bicycle could be mounted on the right.
@xavierlafontaine121
@xavierlafontaine121 3 күн бұрын
Imagine honking at parked cars lmao, you need a hobby dude
@colinwinogradoff6794
@colinwinogradoff6794 4 күн бұрын
Let's put up 5 different kinds of signals and a novel length sign. City planners are getting dumber. No wonder people are confused. Just another government step to BAN drivers from the city.
@markberg6197
@markberg6197 4 күн бұрын
Another thing the full traffic light is confusing and a waste if it never turns green replace them with a full right turn traffic light a red yellow and green right turn arrow only no green ball that would stop people holding up the street car waiting for the light to turn green
@markberg6197
@markberg6197 4 күн бұрын
The current problem is that Queen Street is closed on the same stretch so people are detouring onto king to avoid traffic on Richmond Adelaide and Dundas
@WestCoastTrafficSignals
@WestCoastTrafficSignals 4 күн бұрын
Regarding the signage, an option could be replacing the “no straight thru” signage with “Do Not Enter” signs. In Vancouver, heading westbound on Granville St approaching Smithe St, general traffic is forced to turn left while buses & authorized vehicles can go straight. They just have “Do Not Enter - Except Authorized Vehicles” signs on the far-side, with a standard green ball signal. Smithe is a one-way street, so not an Apples-to-Apples comparison. But still, it’s a different way to sign it.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
Why not do that here in Toronto? I 100% agree with you! I think the only reason they didn't do that, is because unauthorized vehicles are allowed to turn onto King St from another street. It's just through/left movements specifically from King St that aren't allowed. Maybe put "Do Not Enter" signs nearside only, or have it say "Do Not Enter from King St".
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 3 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 What about putting a sign saying "DO NOT ENTER - Except Authorized vehicles and local traffic". The other benefit of that is making it clear to drivers turning onto King Street from the beginning that they can only use it for local traffic (such as to access garages and loading bays only entered off King Street). Part of the issue I think is that drivers turn onto King Street and then suddenly realize that the traffic controls won't let them go straight and get confused. If drivers were aware from the beginning that this is a local traffic road and not an alternative to Queen Street, they would be less likely to be going through that "traffic signal computation phase" at the next intersection.
@WestCoastTrafficSignals
@WestCoastTrafficSignals 4 күн бұрын
My biggest issue with this setup isn’t even the signage, it’s the R-Y-G signal being used for streetcars/authorized vehicles. Apparently it’s really a problem at nighttime, since the signs are less visible. I think it would help if they replaced the green aspect with a vertical transit bar. Although I think you’ve said that a vertical transit bar in Ontario means all movements, not just straight-thru? Another option could be installing a vertical white transit bar on top of the vehicle signal, although that’d lack a yellow indication for streetcars.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
I agree with that option, if only a vertical white transit bar would mean through only. If this was Quebec, they would have definitely done that, since they have several different types of white bars for transit.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 3 күн бұрын
That's correct. If we had multiple types of transit bar we could use the diagonal ones for turns, freeing up the vertical one for thru movements such as here.
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 3 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 Why can't the vertical bar be used to mean streetcars/buses can proceed, whether that is through movement or a turn since in either case cross traffic would be stopped (which puts a turning vehicle in front of the next wave of cars on the cross street)? It's not like an indication for yellow is required for buses/streetcars/authorized vehicles.
@moho472
@moho472 3 күн бұрын
​@@jacktattersall9457Not in the MTO book for allowed signals, other than the vertical white bar. I believe Traffic Man mentioned to me in another comment a while back that Waterloo got an exception to the rule when they built the ION LRT.
@ltaproductions7989
@ltaproductions7989 3 күн бұрын
@@moho472 Can confirm, I work for the YRT, all of our transit leading intersections, look at Bathurst and Centre street, BRT signals have 4 aspects, red yellow green and on top, a transit signal, funny enough, because the BRT is only allowed to proceed on the transit signal, that light has never turned green!
@suraj9695
@suraj9695 4 күн бұрын
People are frustrated with hard life and traffic on roads.People are losing their Canadian patience and being aggressive like india
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
Same here
@frafraplanner9277
@frafraplanner9277 3 күн бұрын
A lot of people from India live in Canada now
@Alex_Mitchell
@Alex_Mitchell 4 күн бұрын
Turning right? Turn into the right hand lane! Turing left? Turn into the left hand lane! Don't complain about people who do it properly and then signal to move to the other lane when you've done it improperly.
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
Assuming you're referring to 6:21, If only 1 lane can turn right, I don't care which lane people turn into as long as it's safe, after checking. this is a T-intersection, and I checked the driveways and the nearby intersection before I made my move. What I don't like, is if people drive in a way that holds traffic, or if it impedes other people's safety (except obnoxious road users excluding those honking because they want to go or pass). If all the lanes are clear and safe, I only turn into the left lane if: - I want to pass someone going slower. - There are vehicles parked in the right lane. - I am turning left within a few hundred meters. Obviously if 2 or more lanes can turn right, then I always stay in the lane I started in. Slow drivers drive me nuts!
@Alex_Mitchell
@Alex_Mitchell 4 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 There were two incidents. I don't plan to review the video in order to confirm your overreaction.
@SeanB88
@SeanB88 5 күн бұрын
All of those flash rates are weird. The ped clear is not 50% or even, or the right speed hahaha
@nickf6447
@nickf6447 5 күн бұрын
The garbage truck is allowed to dive down the wrong direction if its on his planned route .
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
I never knew that garbage trucks are allowed to drive the wrong way on a one way street. Signage should be adjusted to inform the public. In my opinion, they shouldn't be allowed to drive the wrong way just like any other motor vehicle. Thank you for letting me know! 👍
@nickf6447
@nickf6447 4 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 The automatic arm that collects the garbage is only on one side of the truck , it speaks for itself .
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 4 күн бұрын
@@nickf6447 if there an automated arm on the right side of the garbage truck, then that's fine. I just don't know if there is one. Shouldn't there be an automated arm on both sides of the garbage truck?
@nickf6447
@nickf6447 4 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 i guess its not possible to have it on both sides its a pretty bulky system . its effective and important for worker safety and time management .
@randomcube999
@randomcube999 6 күн бұрын
Nice... Except it takes a million years to just turn on the crosswalk light. Ive never seen such a long phase before a green for pedestrians. (Im not gonna call it white. Its green in my country. Idc.)
@frafraplanner9277
@frafraplanner9277 2 күн бұрын
We even call it green in the US (we're not going to tell our kids to wait for the "white man" to cross the street)
@randomcube999
@randomcube999 2 күн бұрын
@@frafraplanner9277 On the other hand, we do have white flashing light on railroad crossings to tell you it is safe to cross. 😅
@Gentrol
@Gentrol 8 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Definitely one of my favourite setups in Quebec City.
@kelv3157
@kelv3157 8 күн бұрын
I was there when they installed the arrow!
@kelv3157
@kelv3157 8 күн бұрын
This is the new toronto city construction spec from what i’ve heard
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 8 күн бұрын
I never knew they updated the specifications! I've seen some intersections such as Highway 27 & Finch Ave, Highway 27 & Humber College Blvd, where they just installed the permanent signals this month, after years of construction. They only installed one signal per direction that displays the green arrow. Most intersections that I see being reconstructed or redesigned have 2 signal heads that display the green arrow. I've seen the green arrow not working before for the northbound median signal at Don Mills & Eglinton. There isn't a second signal head that has a left green arrow there, and people were so confused.
@NKisilAirconditioners
@NKisilAirconditioners 9 күн бұрын
I ❤ ur vids
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852
@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 8 күн бұрын
Aw thank you so much! That really means a lot to me! 😊
@NKisilAirconditioners
@NKisilAirconditioners 8 күн бұрын
@@jacksonbourrettransportati9852 you just gained your 114th subscriber