This is fair! And it is only to highlight a less well known perspective thats only recently been made known. I would like to say that, as a gamer of time period myself, I think it only appears that Sega was more popular than Nintendo in the early 90s in terms of NEW console sales. It was VERY controversial in the US when Nintendo released a SUPER Nintendo. Consumers treated the NES like a long term appliance and the thought that an expensive game console would need to be updated or replaced every 5 years was still alien territory. Thus, consumers balked. And they balked because Nintendo was already so freaking successful. Almost literally every household in America that was able to both afford and permit videogames had an NES. So another NES was regarded as unnecessary. The Genesis came into the market in 1989, and it floundered. It floundered because everyone was still buying the NES. It wasn’t until a massive price cut that the Genesis became popular at all and STILL less with the mainstream upper middle class, suburban Nintendo demographic….that bought multiple games a year….but a more urban, ethnically diverse market on a lower social tier that was just now entering the world of gaming to play mortal kombat, nba jam, and sonic the hedgehog. They didnt buy many games, they rented, but they did boost the sales of the Genesis itself through the roof. Also, many older teens with a little pocket money also picked uo the Genesis. It was less dorky, it was edgier, but above all else it was cheap. Perhaps too cheap.

@creativecatproductions To that same point about the console being cheap, it absolutely needed to be in order to give anyone a reason to pick that over the snes. Consoles were very expensive adjusted for inflation so the idea of having only one plus a gameboy was normal. One of the many reasons for the Saturn's demise as we all know is the infamous $299 statement from Sony as well as the Xbox 360 pulling ahead of thr ps3 for also being the affordable console taking losses on console units. The pricing war imo was inevitable and continued up until the PS4 era which in the end was great for consumers. My final thoughts on the matter is simply the principles of economics. Nintendo had a monopoly and was right to be as oppressive as they were in the market to keep competition out, but once it was seen that there was room for more then one dominant player gaming became on oligopoly which led to Sony joining in. There is a world where the Playstation would not exist if Sega didn't show the world it's at least possible to take sizable market share albeit to Sega's own detriment in the long run. Side note, by 1993 Tom got too confident from the insane growth from the first few years not understanding his crazy sales tactics only worked because the product was good. Once he was trying to sell subpar products, the marketing was nothing more then smoke and mirrors.

Totally! 😎

I’ve actually never heard of this computer! Thanks for watching dude 😎

@@creativecatproductions that's the just the stock Amiga with 512K.

That I do recall. The amiga was very impressive indeed.

@@creativecatproductions in 1987 very dope. The A1000 in 85 was more expensive.

Thanks for watching dude 😎

Thanks for the like!

It all makes sense now! Thanks for watching dude 😎

And may the south be delivered from hurricanes…..like, please Thanks for watching dude! 😎

So far nothing but from past experience it could either completely just blow over or turn extremely bad in a matter of hours. 😆 Oh, I only hope the power stays on. We have a newborn and it’s really really hot. Summer without AC is not what we need around here. I hope you’re doing well! Aren’t you all getting a Universal Studios up there?

The Uni Studios would be news to me. My outdoor entertainment is kept specifically Six Flags and Wet 'N Wild news. Hey, Congrats on the baby! Is this kiddo number 4? Regarding weather, I think you all will be fine power wise, unless you are in Corpus Christi. My best to you. PS...Been watching this show: The Texas Bucket List. Cheesy, but fun Saturday viewing.

It’s number 5! A boy. It’s pretty windy around here right now. Our main worry right now is a tree falling on top of our house since we live in the middle of the piney woods. 😆 I’ll definitely check out the Texas bucket list! Stay dry! 😎

Status Report: How is your house and your family? Saw the news tonight...Unearthed trees is a major issue. My Uncle lives in Houston and lost power last night.

@jordans4827 boy howdy, it sure was interesting! We got hit pretty much square in the face. Crazy 70 mph winds downed trees like crazy. we live in the piney woods just outside of Houston, which is very pretty, but has the HUGE disadvantage of 50 foot falling pine trees….and this time they really went to town. We just emerged from Mad Max like survival mode for the last few days: no power, no gas, flood waters, high temperatures…..but the power came back on for us this morning and we’ve been struggling to rebuild civilization ever since. This entire week was really weird and I am relieved that it is over. But I am deeply perplexed by the fact that hurricane season has really only just begun. 😝

Im pretty sure I addressed both of these things 😝

@@creativecatproductions no, you didn’t

agreed! Thanks for watching = )

Im not sure! I never did get one. Im pretty sure the answer is No however since many of these games never had an English release in the first place

Id love to do something like that. Currently we’re working on a massive video s as bout the rise in the popularity of the x-men and another big video about the failure of the sega saturn.

Kalinske claims the 32X was ordered by Hayao Nakayama. This is probably half true. Hayao Nakayama ordered an American next gen console but Sega of America proposed the 32X add on because they believed in the future of the Genesis as the foundation of their US business model Thanks for watching dude 😎

As a programmer it kills me inside to see you call the language C+ lol it's either C either C++ but C+ does not exist

I also disagree due to this with the assertion at 1:18:15 Programming in C would not cause any specific issue. C can be as fast, maybe even faster than assembly thanks to compiler optimizations that humans might not think about when programming normally as long as they do exploit the hardware and program efficiently. Games such as Mario 64 were programmed in C. It was pretty common during the era.

I think Mario 64 was programmed in C but I believe that was fairly novel at the time. Nintendo and Sega almost exclusively programmed in assembly through the mid 90s….especially innJapan. I get the feeling that one of SOAs biggest hurdles was that they never bothered to do this, but rather preferred coding on C on PCs and then attempted to translate their work to the saturn after the fact. Not just on Sonic but like everything. I think what you say about optimizing compilers is plausible, and Im sure that’s what they were thinking, but Sega of America never managed to produce anything anywhere near as polished, smooth, or quick as the games made in Japan. Sonic Xtreme, what survives of it, is janky trash. Anyway, thank you for watching and for the thoughtful comments

@@creativecatproductions to be fair. Programming 3D sonic games, no matter the language is tricky. I know it having myself experimented with programming a game similar to Sonic Adventure in gameplay. The hardest part is handling momentum while allowing the character to move in all kind of directions such as upside down etc with loopings. This involves a lot of linear algebra maths. Not even accounting for all the physics errors to handle. Yuji Naka probably was familiar with it as he is the one who came up with it on genesis. But the transition of this gameplay that already relied a lot on maths got even trickier once it required 3 dimensional mathematics

@LumiosNoctis do you think he could have done it? If he had enough time? I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if instead of doing Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Naka used that time to get rolling on the SEGA Saturn.

Im sorry I never responded to this! We just had a baby so I’ve been pretty tied up. The best sources for this would be any number of deep, long form interviews with Tom Kalinske in recent years. Look closely at the one’s where he reveals his version of what really happened between the SoA and SoJ. Beyond that you can examine advertising flyers from the time period….the flyers they used to put in old newspapers. Starting with Saturn, and continuing with the Dreamcast, you’ll find no ads in Walmart, Kmart, or Target regarding these consoles. That’s because, as I vividly remember from lived experience, these major retailers did not carry these consoles on their shelves. Kalinske blames the surprise launch of the Saturn, stating that doing so angered retailers, but according to SoJ….as you can see in this video…..the real reason may be that SEGA simply couldn’t continue to sell consoles in these storms under these terms.

True! I’ve heard rumors we may never even get that particular game

You have to love homeruns in this game 😂 Thanks for watching dude 😎

Thanks for watching dude! 😎

That’s what he always says! Im not sure its 100% true, but it is his official version of events. Thanks for watching dude! 😎

@@creativecatproductions You Bet! I will never white knight for Sega of America or Japan. Both made plenty of mistakes on their own and together. Neither branch of the company is solely responsible for Sega's downfall.

@megamanmarchek8293 I think structure might be the heart of the problem here. When CSK took over SEGA in the early 80s, the SEGA founder - an American named David Rosen - retained some partial ownership over the company and more or less retired to California as the head of SEGA of America. Control the of the company remained mainly in Japan, but this bifurcated power sharing structure would repeatedly come to unintentionally injure the company. It was like pulling a chariot with horses wanting to move in opposite directions. Complete madness!

Thank you for watching and for the thought provoking comment dude! 😎 I love phantasy star 2. First rpg I ever beat. It was waaaay too hard 😝

It was horrible here! 😂 Flooding, tornadoes, power loss….we were okay, but it was crazy. I hope you all are doing well too. Thanks for watching dude! 😎

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Thanks for watching dude! 😎

😂 thanks for watching Champ!

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Insurance companies, banks, car dealerships, politicians…..I just can’t abide by them 😂

My insanity is entirely natural and inborn. 😝 Apologies. I’m currently working on two separate massive videos about the SEGA Saturn and the X-MEN. Hopefully that makes up for something.

Ummm…..do I know you? 😝

Thanks for watching dude! 😎

To me its all about the actual execution. Are they really going to deliver? A lot of these are not actually being done by Sega, in the case of Shinobi its working out great, but the others? I have good reason to doubt. Thanks for watching dude! 😎

Things have gotten a lot more interesting in recent months but I have my doubts about their quality control, in terms of the hardware and the longevity of the games working. They did a pretty nice IREM and Taito collection for instance. I also love Shmup! I highly recommend the TG-16 Mini or PC Engine Mini if you can find it. Those were great Thanks for watching our stuff dude 😎

@@creativecatproductions been drooling after that mini, but decided to go with the genesis mini 2 instead. One controller and energy issue scared me away

Herzog Zwei is an early Genesis game and used the 3-button controller. The controls in that game are surprisingly easy to learn, though the menu’s take a little getting used to. The tutorial that SEGA included is great though!

@@creativecatproductions Awesome!

Thank you very much! 😎 These are my favorite types of videos to make.

@@creativecatproductions You’re welcome

I think both are about just as likely? Both Saturn and Dreamcast games take up a lot memory and memory is the really expensive part of these mini consoles. I kind of think Dreamcast? Because the Dreamcast has become really popular in hindsight and SEGA owns the rights to a lot of that consoles best games? I know I’d prefer a Dreamcast personally.

@@creativecatproductions I hope if when Dreamcast gets a mini, they’ll maybe include Breath Of Fire 3 which was originally for ps1. And maybe even Seaman since I like bizarre games, could also help give it a new audience, since I think the game didn’t sell very well from what I heard. As for the former, I really wanna play and the cheapest way to get was for ps3 network, but not only do I not have a psp or vita, but the network has been abandoned. I don’t know if BF3 would run well on Saturn.

You know while Seaman would be unlikely since they’d have to spend extra money to make the accessories, maybe BF3 kind of like how they put a Darius game that’s wasn’t originally on the original genesis. Since you’ve said in one video Phantasy Star Online wouldn’t work, so why not do that.

@CornelioLazarus-sg4gx Seaman I think is one of those vital Dreamcast games. What a wild console!

@@creativecatproductions it actually sold well? Cool! Too bad the sequel wasn’t distributed in the US. There was also going to be a 3DS remake. You’d think because it was a success that it would be followed through.

That TV is wild! Very cool stuff 😎

Its a lot of fun! Especially Shining Force CD….thanks for watching dude! 😎

If I recall correctly, from the Japanese sources quoted in this video, the issue with “buybacks” was mainly a problem with Walmart and Target. I think if Toys R Us never did anything like that with SEGA, then that would mostly explain why the Saturn and Dreamcast were Toys R Us/specialty store exclusives. Thanks for watching dude! 😎

@@creativecatproductions That's correct Toys had a exclusive contract with Sega in which they would heavy advertise for them and receive kickbacks from sega. This is why they took and pushed everything sega.I found myself on the sega side of the competition because of the friends I made with the reps and tech people who visited the store. By the time dreamcast hit I did not have any old sega hardware or software left in the store.

I remember vividly when the dreamcast was discontinued that toys r us had an awesome sale. I went and scooped up a dreamcast for $50 and like 5 or 6 games for like $30. It was the best videogame purchase I ever made. The games were awesome. Toys r us and Sega together was awesome

@@creativecatproductions I know what you mean this new age is not what the bygone age was, you keeping making your videos because some of us who know what is lost today, do enjoy watching them.

@tyronedrane8394 thank you very much 😎